January 8, 2021 Show with Justin Peters on “False Propecies of 2020 & Being Prepared to Expose & Refute More in 2021”
January 8, 2021
JUSTIN PETERS, evangelist, conference speaker & founder of Justin Peters Ministries, who will address:
“FALSE PROPHECIES of 2020 & BEING PREPARED to EXPOSE & REFUTE MORE in 2021!!!”
with special Cohost ANDREW RAPPAPORT, founder & president of Striving For Eternity
Transcript
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And I am so thrilled to have returning to this program a dear friend
who is one of my favorite guests to interview.
He has also been a speaker at at least one of my Iron Sharpens Iron
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apologists, I believe, alive on the planet Earth today.
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is exposing and refuting false teachers specifically,
and most typically those that are involved in the word -of -faith Pentecostal heresy.
And it's my honor and privilege to welcome back to Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, evangelist, conference speaker,
author, and founder of Justin Peters Ministries, Justin Peters.
And I'm
also thrilled to have joining me
as a co -host today,.
Andrew Rappaport, who is the founder and president of Striving for Eternity.
And it's great to have you back on the program as well, Andrew.
It is always great to be on your show.
Thank you, Chris.
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Please only remain anonymous if your question involves a personal and private matter.
Perhaps you are in a church that is a Word of Faith Pentecostal
church, and you are starting to see inconsistencies or
perhaps even downright lies.
You are starting to be educated through the Scriptures and through the guidance of
the Holy Spirit, and you are finally starting to see that there are many heresies and
blasphemies and false miracles and false teachers
in your midst and duped sheep, deceived sheep in your midst.
And you have a question and you would obviously rather not draw attention to your identity yet.
We understand something like that would compel you to remain anonymous, but if it is just a general question
on theology or a general question on any of the false teachers we will be addressing today.
Please give us at least your first name, city and state, and country of residence.
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interviews that we have conducted and other interviews on other subjects.
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over.
But first of all, perhaps Justin, if you could give us a very brief summary, because we
have a lot to talk about today, on false prophecies of 2020, and being prepared to expose
and refute more false prophecies in 2021.
Give us a brief summary of Justin Peters' ministries and why your
physical condition that you were born with, or which occurred
shortly after your birth, why that has something very crucial
involved in why you actually eventually started Justin Peters' ministries.
Yes.
In fact, somebody who would corroborate that and confirm everything you just said is
my very dear friend since 1995, Dr. Conrad Mbewe, a pastor of
Kabwatha Baptist Church in Lusaka, Zambia, Africa, who is also on the faculty of African Christian
University, alongside with Vodie Baucom.
And Dr. Mbewe has said many times in public addresses and
sermons that you could barely distinguish between the local witch doctor
and the local Word of Faith Pentecostal pastor.
And there's all kinds of really horrendous things going on where
adultery and fornication amongst the leaders in many, I'm not going to broad brush, but in many of the
churches there seems to be a given that's an acceptable thing because the person is a
leader who is expected to have more privileges to do things that perhaps would be in someone else's sin.
And they are treated like royalty, as it were, and given a pass on even
committing damnable sins themselves.
In addition to perpetrating the other damnable heresies they were already teaching and preaching.
And of course, our co -host today, Andrew Rappaport of Striving for Eternity, he is also
someone who does that very thing for you when he is traveling with you.
It's exactly right.
He absolutely refuses to put mine on for some reason.
I don't know why.
Well, should we start?
Well, actually, before we start with the clip, please give us a very brief summary, since there
are other interviews people can go to to find out more information.
Give us a very brief summary of the key tenets of Word of Faith Pentecostalism that would make it
clearly outside the realm of authentic Orthodox Biblical Christianity.
And they really claim, even if they don't use the exact wording
that I am about to use, but they may at times use this exact wording, but they really
teach that men are in sovereign control over whether or
not they are healed.
And if they have a strong enough faith, they even believe that men have the sovereign control
over the weather and all kinds of things that are only truly in the hands of
God to control.
Am I right?
Yes, that's exactly right.
Why don't you set us up before I play our first clip.
And I'm going to be trying to keep track of the time as best as I can, because you have
indicated to me the length of the clips that you want me to play.
You've indicated when I should stop these clips.
But if you happen to hear that I've been distracted and the clip is going on
longer than it should, please just say, Chris, you can stop now, because we obviously don't want to play any
more of these heretics than we need to.
We just want to get the points across, and we also don't want to chew into the time that
we have allotted to us unnecessarily by playing a longer clip than you intended.
So why don't you set us up with this very first clip with an explanation.
We have about 10 minutes.
One word to say that the disease itself doesn't fit the bill of your description.
The impact and the hysteria surrounding it certainly does.
We'll exercise judgment right now.
In the name of Jesus.
Thank you, Jesus.
In the office of God,
judgment on you, COVID -19.
I execute judgment on you, Satan.
You destroyer.
You killer.
You get out.
You break this nation.
I demand judgment on you.
I
demand
place
of authority, destroyer.
You crawl on like God commanded you when he put
his foot on your head in the Garden of Eden.
You will destroy through COVID -19.
Okay, well, not that that needs any commentary, but please provide
some.
Yeah, well,
let me
ask you
a question.
In fact, Andrew, you could pipe in briefly as well.
Am I supposed to be laughing right now?
There are some who might be upset.
I'm not really that concerned that people who believe this are offended, but there are brothers in
Christ who would agree with us that these are charlatans and this is heresy who would say, Oh, Chris, you
shouldn't be laughing at this because this is a very serious and damnable deception going on.
So is it always wrong to laugh when you hear things like this?
I mean,
we, he, you know,
where you
went through where
disease sometimes hard not to.
In fact, we have to go to our first station break.
So we'll have you repeat any set up that you need when we return in regard to
the the second clip we're going to be playing.
And if anybody would like to join us on the air again, our email address is Chris Arnson at gmail .com.
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clip?
Chris,
so, uh,
29th
day.
Give God glory and praise and honor for this.
It's over.
It's over.
Oh, it's over.
Yeah, he's saying it's over, and obviously it's clearly not over by any stretch of the imagination.
It's the exact time.
Before I play the next clip, do you have anything that you'd like to ask or any input that you have?
Romney, not only
would, after time, false prophecy after false
prophecy.
There seems to be amnesia going on, right?
Yeah.
And, of course, there are exceptions to the rule that whether or not you would
label them charismatic or non -cessationist or continuationist or
continuous, like, even though I have, especially lately, have disagreed with
John Piper on a number of things.
John Piper is clearly, I'm sorry, an expositor, and yet he would not
be a cessationist or in our camp on the sign gifts.
That's
correct,
Chris,
and
that
goes
back
to
what?
Let's have a little bit of setup now before we air a clip before the midway break.
This is another Kenneth Copeland clip, I believe.
Yeah, okay.
Not
only does he have horribly fake doctrine, but his fake laugh is even
worse.
Well, mine is never fake.
In fact, what we should do right
now, actually, Andrew, is we'll pick up right where you left off, right where you started to speak when we come back, because we
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If 2020 has proven anything, it's that big pharma, big tech, and big government knows nothing about how to treat
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My co -host today is Andrew Rappaport of Striving for Eternity.
We are discussing false prophecies of 2020 and also helping you
prepare to expose and refute false prophecies of 2021.
And Justin do you have anything further to say after that last clip or should we have you now just
prepare us for the next clip to come.
Oh you know what I wanted to ask you Justin
because you're talking about these guys who
have
no
believer
in his ability to
speak to
the foundation.
So what he did do is he did.
But
then you
mentioned.
Wrong about my problem.
Holding
my
self
-account
in there in
a myth the
letter from Jeremiah Johnson.
Basically he is a false prophet.
In fact you just mentioned Kat Kerr one of these false prophetesses.
I'm going to play the clip with Steve Schultz interviewing her and does that need any
further set up.
No.
Other than can you
describe
what you
mean.
What did you see in either your natural eyes or your spiritual eyes.
What did he show you specifically.
When I say he showed me I don't mean he gave me a vision.
I don't mean he gave me a dream.
I mean he took me into the future.
That may be a word to you why it happened in the Bible.
It happened in the Old Testament.
I know that John the beloved was shown things from the past and he was shown things from the future.
What about revelations.
What do you think that word means.
A revelation comes from the heart of God.
It does not come from the mind of man.
It doesn't come from something that's been written down.
Unless somebody got revelation and they wrote that down so revelation is from God himself.
He is sitting on his throne Jesus Christ is right there next to him.
And millions and millions.
I could say billions of angels especially the army has been sent here and right now for all of you who are
in D .C. there are.
Actually this is going to be really something.
There are 50 billion angels there.
Wow.
Not million not million.
Nobody has a number you know.
I don't think God has given anybody a number.
How many exist.
I just know that God has a whole lot more than than what Lucifer, God or Satan.
Okay.
Any further commentary.
That you'd like to provide.
Yes.
So that was.
I just heard there
from
Cat
Kerr
into the future.
This is no just.
To the future
now
before
I.
I do have some listener questions that I would like to go to before we run out of time but I'll play one more
clip and this is another Cat Kerr clip.
You want to set that up.
And this is yeah this is from yesterday.
So this is the day after the capitol building was stormed.
And God has assured me.
Today.
When he walked into my room and woke me up at noon almost noon 11 .55 am
I'm up for like 20 hours a day and sometimes I go to sleep sometimes I don't but I always have my alarm
set for noon.
And it didn't go off.
God did and he came in and he yelled as loud as he possibly could.
Justice will prevail.
I will not listen to the stuff the acts because they don't know how to put a show on.
Hell never has put on a good show.
This is still God speaking.
Hell has never put on a good show.
They've always lost the seats they went after.
They lost whatever they were planning to do he said.
I kicked them out of heaven.
That was the first show.
Lightning was striking they were kicked out unseated and stripped away from power.
The second show was in hell on the third day.
Mentioned in Colossians when my son stood up and released the fire of God from himself and melted the faces of
the hierarchy of hell and made a show of it he said.
The third show is still in rehearsal right now.
So this was yesterday
if you're
talking
about.
That same video I've already clicked it out unless you're talking about the last one that
you have me on the coverage in the spirit of faith on flashpoint that's the last
video I have.
The one that I was.
Just playing I clicked it off.
Ok.
Well that's all right.
Ok we have John in Bangor, Maine who has a question.
For you.
He said I don't know.
If any of these.
Word of faith.
Pentecostals ever described themselves as open theists the heresy that
God does not always know perfectly what the future holds but it seems to me that they
constantly get around these false predictions and prophecies by claiming that
God changed his mind.
Therefore.
The things that were clearly prophesied to them.
Then.
That would definitely occur.
Did not occur.
Just because God changed his mind.
Therefore the future.
Isn't fixed and therefore God does not perfectly know it.
Was this.
An accurate assessment on my part.
Yeah.
John in Bangor, Maine.
Yes.
A
first
time.
Questioner.
Mike in Monroe.
New York.
Brothers please talk about the cruelty.
Of those who.
Are not healed and do not understand why God has not done so.
And therefore.
Are devastated.
By this.
Well that would include you as a younger man wouldn't it Justin.
Another
first
time.
Questioner.
Bud in Orange Park, Florida.
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Of Andrew.
Rappaport.
I'm curious about their response to a question.
Is.
Is sushi.
Really a.
Legitimate meal choice for a Christian.
Okay.
But thanks.
For wasting.
Our time.
There but he also.
Says my real question is this.
I would like to.
Hear Justin and Andrew's response to a question that I engage with numerous people.
On.
Is discernment a spiritual.
Gift.
Or is it a learned skill.
That's the real question by Bud.
I'll say this that those that have discernment know that sushi.
I'm assuming.
That you guys.
Would think perhaps it's a combination of both.
But we're all.
Responsible to have discernment.
Aren't we.
I mean God knows our.
Minds.
So if
we're
commanded to judge but you
could.
Say that.
Couldn't you say that.
It's also a gift that someone may have a more keen insight and
discernment than others at the same time while requiring that we are all responsible to
God for having discernment just like we're all accountable.
Before God.
To be apologists not that we're all going to launch an apologetics ministry and start teaching people.
But we all.
Have to be ready to give an answer for the hope that lies within us.
Right.
You may
have
people that
have a spiritual
being able to do this.
Do you think it's a spiritual.
Just like evangelism there are people who say well I'm just too shy evangelism isn't my gift.
So therefore.
I never talk about Christ or his word I never defend the gospel.
When I'm in a gathering that includes unbelievers who may be even mocking the faith I just keep my mouth
shut because that's not my gift.
That's.
There is no way.
Out for that.
It is our.
Responsibility.
Now of course we have to be wise as serpents and as cunning as doves
or peaceful as doves but.
We have no.
Legitimate excuse for not ever evangelizing because it's not our gift.
We want to be.
Out.
Right we're
going
to.
Go to our.
Final break.
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Okay,.
Anything you'd like to follow up on.
That?
Yeah,.
So this is
more that you're up to.
Well, you know,.
Justin, I already know that.
I'd like to have you back very soon on the show to do a follow -up and we can have Andrew co
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Sorry, Grady in.
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We ran out of time before we.
Were able to.
Ask your question.
And some of the.
Other folks.
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Perhaps when Justin and Andrew are back on the show,.
You can ask.
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Then.
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