F4F | Michael Brown's Failed Attempt at "Brown Washing" ChristAlignment

Michael Brown’s Brownwashing Technique and the Critic-as-Problem Strategy

Welcome to another installment of Fighting for the Faith. My name is Chris Rosebro. I am your servant in Jesus Christ. This is the channel that compares what people are saying in the name of God to the Word of God.

Now, if you did not get a chance to watch yesterday's edition, and I'm recording this on Thursday, so I guess it would be Wednesday's edition of The Line of Fire where Michael Brown talks about Christian tarot cards and interviewed Jenny Hodge of Christ Alignment.

If you haven't had a chance to watch it, I'm gonna strongly recommend that you do and do so with the live chat relay, you know, replay on when you do it. But what we're gonna do today, by the way, go ahead and like the video, subscribe down below if you're not already a subscriber, ring the bell so you can be notified when we update the channel.

What we're gonna do today is we're gonna do a little bit of a post-mortem. Yesterday's installment of The Line of Fire, or Wednesday's, because I think we're gonna be able to get this video up by Friday.

Wednesday's installment of The Line of Fire did not go well for Michael Brown, like far, far from it. It actually was embarrassingly bad to kind of watch what happened. Jenny Hodge nuked her own credibility, and in the process, Michael Brown's credibility got burnt as well.

And what we're gonna do is today we're going to deconstruct the technique that Michael Brown has been using. I'm a careful student of the people that I critique on Fighting for the Faith, and oftentimes will spend a lot of time either watching their sermons, reading their books, or both.

In the case of Michael Brown, I've been a student of how he critiques critics for some time now. In fact, my studies kind of really took off when I got a copy of his book, Let No One Deceive You. This was from 1997, and this was kind of written in the context of the wake of criticism of the Brownville revival that was going on at the time, not only on the internet, but also from Hank Hanegraaff, the Bible Answer Man, and the Christian Research Institute.

And this is where a careful study of this kind of informed me about the technique that Michael Brown uses to dismiss critics rather than substantively engage them in their criticisms. And that's really what Michael Brown does.

He labels people hypercritics. Anybody who has something negative to say about the charismatic movement, they are a hypercritic, or this is destructive criticism. And he has this jiu-jitsu move that he does where he's able to defend practically the most indefensible positions out there.

And the jiu-jitsu move, there's a term that we use here in house at Fighting for the Faith and Pirate Christian Media, we call it brownwashing. Yeah, I know, it's not exactly the most flattering name.

Let's just say we do come up with some pretty spectacular coinage for names here at Fighting for the Faith. But what I'm going to do is I'm going to demonstrate how Michael Brown does this jiu-jitsu move in order to brownwash some of the most ridiculous things that are going on in the charismatic movement.

And this is the reason why we have dubbed Michael Brown the Apostle of Obfuscation, because rather than substantively engaging critics, he lumps them all together, brands them all as hypercritics, and then makes them the problem rather than the things that they are bringing up.

That's how he does it. So what we're going to do, let me get my screen up here, hang on a second here before I forget. What we're going to do, yeah, this is a little later in the program, what we're going to do is we're going to do a little bit of historical work.

I've already played a little bit of this audio from the May 15, 2017 episode of The Line of Fire in the video that we aired previous to this one about undocumented healings by Francis Chan. And we're going to revisit this, and I'm going to fill you in on kind of the bigger context.

If this all sounds convoluted, what I got to do is show you how Brown, Dr. Brown, brownwashes crazy stuff. And I mean, like, patently, obviously, heretical, wrong, bizarre, not even close to biblical Christianity kind of stuff.

How he brownwashes it by these jujitsu moves that he engages in to make the critics the problem, which is what he does, and then give the person who is teaching the false doctrine or engaging in the blatantly wrong practice somewhat of a pass.

That's what he was attempting to do with with Jenny Hodge and Christ Alignment. I can actually prove that basically following the pattern. But it didn't work for Michael Brown because Jenny Hodge is for real engaging in fortune-telling and trying to make it look like something related to the gift of the Spirit and called the Word of Knowledge.

And so we're going to walk through. We're going to walk through the technique. How does Dr. Brown brownwash? We're going to use a historical example. I'll show you how the pattern was all there for Christ Alignment, and everything was set up.

Everything was perfectly set up. And all Jenny Hodge had to do was do a She would have gotten an okay from Dr. Brown, but she couldn't do that because that's not what she's doing. I'll kind of explain it along the way.

It seems kind of weird, kind of cryptic, but that's okay. So let me take you back in time. Back in time, back in early May of 2017, so three years ago now, Jennifer LeClaire, she was the editor-in-chief of Charisma magazine at the time.

And as the editor-in-chief, she wrote an article early in, was it May or something? It was, it may not have been May. It may have been a little bit prior to May. Yeah, just to say spring, late spring of 2017.

And this is the article. And I got to admit, it's tough for me to read this with a straight face because of just how nuts this article is. The name of the article is, When the Sneaky Squid Spirit Starts Stalking You.

I mean, right on the face, I mean, this sounds like the person who wrote it is suffering from paranoid delusions, you know. And by the way, I just want to let you know, just, how do I used to put it? Just because you can't prove that they're not after you doesn't mean that they're not.

I'm just saying. So anyway, so Jennifer LeClaire writes, When my friend told me she saw a vision of herself with a squid, big squid, lodged atop her head, I knew enough about the unseen world to understand a spiritual attack was underway.

What I didn't know was that a sneaky squid spirit would soon start stalking me. Okay, so of course, you know, when this comes out, I'm asking questions like, is it a mortal or a venial sin to deny the existence of a sneaky squid spirit?

I mean, there are no Christians in the writings of the Church Fathers all the way through the 20th century, until we get early into the 21st century, no Christians ever believed, taught or confessed that there's a such thing as a sneaky squid spirit.

What is this? I mean, I just think it's delusional, right? And so, of course, everybody was talking about it. The internet was buzzing at the time. And we hypercritics, yeah, apparently I'm supposed to be a hypercritic.

We hypercritics were like getting slammed, you know, for pointing this out. It's like, I'm not required to believe this. This is not a biblical teaching. It's not even based upon a principle in biblical teaching.

And into the mix of all of that, Michael Brown had Jennifer LeClaire on his program. Now, I think it was either May 4th or 5th of 2017, and he had her on there. And I couldn't believe that he would do that.

Because, I mean, Jennifer LeClaire represents the kind of craziest part of the lunatic fringe of the charismatic movement. And she is part of the NAR. Now, I know Michael Brown denies that it exists because he defines it in a very narrow sense.

And so, I would say I quibble with him on his definition. And yes, it does exist. The NAR actually is a thing. And this is another one of the reasons why I say he's the apostle of obfuscation. But all that being said, you know, so Jennifer LeClaire's put the sneaky squid spirit thing out on the map.

We've chimed in about it. You know, it's on our podcast. Put it in the Museum of Idolatry. She comes on Michael Brown's program, and I phoned in. I actually called in. If you go and hunt down that particular installment of The Line of Fire, you can hear me calling in.

And I basically said, why are you having this woman on there? Because she's teaching this brand new doctrine that there's a sneaky squid spirit out there trying to attack our minds. And Dr. Brown immediately started parsing things out and saying, well, it's not really a dogma, you know, or all this kind of stuff, and in the moment was defending her.

And then what happened next is, the best way I can put it, I'll walk you through it, it is the quintessential example of the technique we call brownwashing. And so what Michael Brown did, he waited 10 days, but he had Jennifer LeClaire back on his program.

So on May 15th of 2017, Michael Brown had Jennifer LeClaire on his program. And the name of the program was Dr. Brown Reaches Out to the Critics. And you can get a flavor for what he taught in this episode.

You go back and find it for yourself. It's on The Line of Fire. It's not buried or anything like that. He doesn't do that. But he says, Dr. Brown points out the difference between constructive criticism and destructive criticism.

So note, it's in this context, then, that Dr. Brown is going to talk about me. He's going to talk to Jennifer LeClaire. And apparently, I fall into the category of a destructive critic. Why? Well, because I'm calling out Jennifer LeClaire's sneaky squid spirit doctrine, and saying this is bovine scatology.

This isn't a biblical doctrine. This is not something we're to be believing, teaching, and confessing. She's adding to the body of beliefs and doctrines that we're supposed to be believing as Christians and misleading people as a result of it.

But apparently, that makes me a destructive critic. And so what he's going to do, then, he has Jennifer LeClaire come on his program in the context of, I'm going to reach out and I'm going to confront those destructive critics, like that pastor from North Dakota, who is misrepresenting Jennifer LeClaire and not putting the most positive light on her sneaky squid doctrine.

And what Dr. Michael Brown is going to do in this segment, we'll listen to it in its entirety, is he's going to talk, he's going to make a claim that there's a distinction between something that's contrary to Scripture, as opposed to being extra biblical.

All right. So his argument is that the sneaky squid spirit is going to be okay, because it's not contrary to Scripture. It may be an addition, but it's not an addition that you have to believe, but it's not against the Scripture.

That's kind of the idea. And all of this, again, in the context of, we're going to put people in their place who are destructive critics. That's me. And that's the same technique that Michael Brown engaged in in his book, Let No One Deceive You.

I mean, this book is really dedicated not to answering the substantive evidence and the false doctrines being taught within the charismatic movement that were brought up by critics of the movement at the time.

No, this is a book that basically does this jujitsu move to make the critics the problem. And that's how he brownwashes. So let's go ahead and listen in. We're going to go back in time. Some of this is going to be a little redundant because of our previous installment of Fighting for the Faith regarding Francis Chan, but I want you to hear everything in context so that you can see how the technique works.

So I've called in 10 days earlier, said, why are you having this woman on there? She's teaching there's a sneaky squid spirit running around wanting to attack your brain. This is nonsense. And so now in the context of, we've got to put to rest this destructive criticism.

Let's see what he and Jennifer LeClair do. I want to get to as many calls as I can and then over the course of the rest of the show, this hour and the next hour, I want to lay out as best as I can what's constructive, what's destructive,.

Give you some more details. Yeah, so pointing out that the sneaky squid spirit is a non-biblical doctrine. Destructive. Okay. Without further ado, got.

Jennifer LeClair online. Hey Jennifer, welcome back to the line of fire. Hey Dr.

Brown, how are you? Alright, so first order of business is find a way to make Jennifer LeClair sound like she has a love for the Lord and prayer and things like this, and give her the opportunity to really make herself sound sane.

You know, I'm just an ordinary loving Christian, I love the Lord, I love prayer, and so I don't understand why anybody would be critical of me. That's kind of part of the technique. Doing well. So little did I.

Know that our short little interview about ten days ago would spiral into me now being told if I don't disassociate you as a false teacher, which I understand means a hell-bound heretic and deceiver, that I myself am a.

Hell-bound heretic and deceiver. Now here's the thing, I personally did not say that to Michael Brown. I don't know which critics of his were saying that, but that's not my position. My point was, why are you having this woman on here?

She's teaching the sneaky squid spirit. This is nonsense. I mean, her credibility, she shouldn't be teaching nobody nothing. But you know, so this, he kind of ramps the rhetoric up, and maybe he did receive, you know, people, you know, critics saying that that's what he needed to do.

That's not, that was not my position. You disavow her, Brown, or you are, you know, that's, that was never my position. You know, I called him with an honest question. Why are you having this lady on here?

Because she's neat. This is, this is goofy, right? That's not the first you've.

Heard that, but it came with a bit of a swirl. I did send you a few of the links just, just to glance at, but Jennifer, first let me ask, let me ask this, what.

Matters to you most? What do you live for? Yeah, what do you live for, man? Okay, so this is to basically just put everybody at ease. Oh, she loves the Lord. She couldn't possibly be wrong. The sneaky squid, yeah, I guess we can warm up to.

That. What moves you? I know you're a wife, you're a mother, you work at Charisma, etc., but the core of your being, what moves you? What motivates you?

You know, intimacy with God. In 2010, the Lord told me to make prayer my life's work, and so although I write books that I do... Okay, listen to what she said.

Intimacy with God, and God told me. This woman is claiming direct revelation from God. Hello? What evidence can you provide me that God actually told her this? I.

Mean, already on its face, we've got some big problems. TV and radio, and I'm the editor of Charisma. You know, my heartbeat is prayer, and that requires intimacy with God. It requires leaning on his breast, listening to his heart, and...

Every time I hear that phrase, I just get creepy. You know, so I've never leaned on Jesus's breast to hear his heart. As a guy, that just sounds not.

Heterosexual. Best way I could put it. That's really the core of who I am, is just trying to walk with the Lord, walk in the Word. You know, I think that, you know, in a nutshell, I'm a Word person. I'm also a Spirit person.

I strive for that balance between being grounded and rooted in the Word, and also being open to what the Holy Spirit is saying and wants to do. Being open to what the.

Holy Spirit is saying and wants to do. Okay. Tell me the difference between.

Sensing the Lord is speaking to you versus the written word. Well, you know,.

The written word is infallible. Our hearing, our spiritual hearing, is not.

Infallible. Now, I've got to challenge this. This is a major tenet of today's Charismatics. And notice, she said, our spiritual hearing is not infallible. That is putting the emphasis on the wrong syllable.

When God speaks, he will be heard. It is nonsense to believe that God will speak to you and you will not hear him properly. Even Balaam, you know, of Balaam's donkey fame, guy had no training in hearing the voice of God, and he had no problemo hearing God's voice, because if God is speaking to you, he will be heard.

So this is one of the absurd doctrines of the Charismatic movement, that somehow we can hear inaccurately. No way. No way. That's to say that God is speaking in a way that.

He cannot be heard. One is capable of being deceived, but we can always rely, lean on, depend on the Holy Spirit-inspired Word of God. It's profitable for correction, for instruction, for rebuke, and so, you know, primarily the Word of God is what must ultimately guide us, but at the same time, there is revelation from the Holy Spirit.

The Bible says he will lead us and guide.

Us into all truth. Yeah, that text does not mean that we're gonna get direct revelation from God. You've ripped that sentence out of context. That's.

Not what it's referring to. He'll put words in our mouth when we need them, you.

Know, it says he'll comfort us. He'll put words in our mouth when we need them, when we're.

On trial and being persecuted. So, you know, the Bible also, Jesus said that man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God, and the text there indicates that God is still speaking, and.

So we cannot... No, it's not, actually. Let me show you the text in question. This is Matthew chapter 4. In Matthew chapter 4, Jesus is being tempted by the devil in the wilderness. So it says in 4 .1, Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil.

After fasting 40 days and 40 nights, he was hungry, and the tempter came and said to him, if you are the Son of God, command these stones to become loaves of bread. But he answered, it is written. So the devil is tempting him, and what does Jesus come back with?

An actual quote from the book of Deuteronomy. Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes, or you can say, is proceeding from the mouth of God. And this was written in the book of Deuteronomy, and what's Jesus quoting?

The Scripture. It is written. This is not a text that says, oh, you're gonna hear the voice of God in your heart. What Jennifer LeClaire just did there is twist the Word of God. And I've got to point this out, she did this in the hearing of Michael Brown, who is not an incompetent Bible scholar, yet I've never seen him offer a substantive biblical critique of people like this in the moment when they are twisting God's Word.

Jennifer LeClaire just twisted Matthew 4 in his presence, in his hearing, and he did nothing to censor her or say, yeah, you know what, actually, that's not what Jesus meant. Nope, not at all. So let's come back then to our interview as we listen to, this is the technique of how Brown brownwashes the crazy things going on in the charismatic movement.

Just say, well,.

You know, if it's not in the Bible, if that experience is not in the Bible, we have to negate it. There are people that have had experiences, like Bill Johnson, you know, where there's things with angels that we don't understand.

There's things like Ezekiel experience with the wheel within a wheel. And the Ezekiel.

Experience, the wheel within a wheel, is in the Scriptures. It's written in the Bible, and it was his experience. It was a legitimate one. But nowhere are we led to believe that we would have the same kind of experience.

You know, all these.

Living creatures in the book of Revelation. Yeah, there are living.

Creatures in the book of Revelation. They also appear in Isaiah the prophet as well. But despite the fact that they show up in various texts within the Old and the New Testament, does not then justify the sneaky squid spirit or any nonsense like this.

So notice what she's trying to do. Oh, what I'm doing is not contrary to Scripture. It's kind of in the same vein as these other things. But in reading about those other things, there's nothing there to lead us to believe that we're supposed to build doctrines that are outside of the Scripture, based upon our experiences, that are not, quote, contrary to Scripture.

And that's what she's doing. And I'm going to say this right now. This is what Dr. Michael Brown really thought and expected that Jenny Hodge was going to do yesterday. And I know this is coming out on Friday, so on Wednesday's episode of The Line of Fire.

And he even talked, he even said these words in that interview with her, and I'll point it out. But again, long program here as we're deconstructing how Michael Brown does this. This is the technique known as brownwashing.

There's abstract things,.

But again, I'm one that's been more historically and presently a stickler for it being in the Word. I'm not on the fringes. I'm wary of things, you know.

Really? Believing in a sneaky squid spirit, writing about it, and writing about how to overcome and defeat marine demons, that's not on the fringe? That's in the mainstream of the charismatic movement?

Really?

Too many angel feathers, too much gold dust, gemstones, all that really sort of causes me pause. I don't speak against it, because, you know, I can't say that it's not God, but I've always been more conservative in that realm.

And how do you feel about lack of accountability among certain prophetic.

People in the charismatic movement? Now, this is a part that's redundant from our previous episode of Fighting for the Faith, but let's listen in, because what he's trying to do is give her some street cred, so that she doesn't sound like she's like super crazy, because the sneaky squid spirit doctrine is bonkers nuts crazy.

It just is. And so he's basically, let her speak, and we'll learn her heart, and people say, well, she sounds sane, so maybe this crazy doctrine is okay, you know, because it's not contrary to Scripture.

Concern you?

It does concern me. We call them lone rangers or renegades, where they sort of spout off. We see a lot of prophetic opinion, a lot of subjective experiences that aren't even within the bounds of reality of Scripture.

In other words...

You mean like sneaky squid spirits? Yeah, they're not like even in the bounds of reality of the Scripture.

Some things that we don't maybe find in Scripture. The Bible says that if we recorded all the works that Jesus did, there would not be enough books in the world to, you know, there would not be enough room in the world for all the books they would offer, you know, but there are some things that just defy Scripture.

It's not that you can't find it in Scripture, that you can't find the principle in Scripture, you can't find any indication.

So the sneaky squid spirit principle is taught in Scripture, so it's not defying Scripture, it's not contrary to Scripture, it's just, you know, it's built on the basic principle of taught in Scripture?

It just defies Scripture.

It just defies it, yeah. Some of that in prophetic ministry, where people are giving angels very, very strange names. I've spoken out against some of these things. People are selling prophetic words. All this is very...

And I got to point out, Jennifer LeClaire charges money for prophetic activations. She engages in the sin of simony. This is just a documented fact.

I've been very vocal about it. Yeah, so there's one thing to say this is extra biblical. In other words, we don't find this specifically.

Okay, this is the technique now. It's one thing to say something's extra biblical. So no, Brown is the one guiding this now, setting the principle up. How does one brownwash something as crazy and insanely unbiblical as the sneaky squid?

It's real simple. You come up with this category. Well, it's not against the Scriptures. It's just kind of, you know, something that's different than the Scriptures. Yeah, let me back this up just a little bit.

Unfortunately, I don't have a real good way to fine-tune my backing up, so I don't want to back it up too far, but just a smudge there. We'll try that and see how we do. Here we go.

...a stickler for it being in the Word. I'm not on the fringes. I'm wary of things, you know, with too many angel feathers, too much gold dust, gemstones. All that really sort of causes me pause. I don't speak against it, because, you know, I can't say that it's not God, but I've always been more conservative in that realm.

And how do you feel about lack of accountability among certain prophetic people in the Charismatic Movement? Does that concern you?

It does concern me. We call them Lone Rangers, or Renegades, where they sort of spout... Man, I really missed it here. We see a lot of prophetic opinion, a lot of subjective experiences that aren't even within the bounds of reality of Scripture.

In other words, there's some things that we don't maybe find in Scripture. The Bible says that if we recorded all the works that Jesus did, there would not be enough books in the world to, you know, there would not be enough room in the world for all the books they would offer.

But there are some things that just defy Scripture. It's not that you can't find it in Scripture, that you can't find the principle in Scripture, you can't find any indication of it. It just defies Scripture, and we're seeing some of that in prophetic ministry, where people are giving angels very, very strange names.

I've spoken out against some of these things. People are selling prophetic words. All this is very troublesome to me, and I've been very vocal about it.

Yeah, so there's one thing to say this is extra-biblical. In other words, we don't find this specifically in the Bible. You could argue that the use of instruments, musical instruments, is not explicitly found in the New Testament, but you find it in most of our churches.

It's not un-biblical, but it would be un-biblical to say that.

Satan is Lord. Okay, so note what he's doing here. He is comparing the fact that musical instruments are not mentioned in the New Testament, but they are, by the way, mentioned in the Old. I just want to point that out.

In fact, many instruments are mentioned in the Old Testament, but the fact that musical instruments are not mentioned in the New Testament, therefore belief in the sneaky squid spirit is like using your Christian freedom to use a musical instrument during worship time.

That's flat-out obfuscation. Indeed, it is. But, you know, so that's what he's trying to do. The belief in the sneaky squid spirit, it's not contrary to Scripture, you know, in the same way that musical instruments are not contrary to Scripture or opposed to it.

You see, and so he's making a one-to-one correlation between musical instruments and the sneaky squid spirit. That's what he's doing. This is how you brownwash.

Let's keep going. We understand those differences, and Jennifer, within Charisma itself, let's say someone writes in and they say they have this amazing healing testimony, and it's the most incredible thing.

Do you require documentation before you print that?

It depends. If they're saying they raised the dead, yes, we will get a doctor's report. If there's a, you know, Randy Clark has a great project where he's gone around and documented those kind of healings.

We do ask for documentation. Now, if someone says, I was in a prayer line, I laid hands on somebody, and they had a headache, and the headache went away, or ears opened up, if they're not naming names and they're sort of giving testimony or anecdotes based on, you know, to teach a principle, as long as they're not naming names, no, we don't ask for that level of indication.

But if they're saying cancer was healed, a dead person was raised, those kind of things, absolutely, we get verification.

Yeah, I remember something happening a few years ago, and that's why that came to my attention, that Charisma said, no, we need medical documentation before we print that. All right, last question. This whole thing about, quote, a sneaky squid spirit.

Now, notice, the technique is already in place, all right? And this is in the addressing destructive criticism. So Jennifer LeClaire is a victim of destructive hypercriticism, and the sneaky squid spirit doctrine, because that's what it is, a doctrine is just a teaching.

I mean, that's what doctrine means. You know, the sneaky squid spirit doctrine is, it's not contrary to and you can believe it the same way you can believe that it's okay to use instruments during worship.

The whole table has been set. And so this is now the jujitsu move to show that Jennifer LeClaire, she's reasonable, and the people who are criticizing her for teaching that there's a sneaky squid spirit, they are the ones who are unreasonable.

Always and again, Michael Brown's technique is to demonstrate that the critics are the problem, not the person they're criticizing.

The pastor called in and said, you had a guest on and she believes in a sneaky squid spirit. And I saw that was me. Sneaky. I mean, the devil sneaky. That's not an issue there. But he's already defending it.

No idea how a demon is going to be manifest or seen. It sounded very weird to me. You know, honestly, I never heard of the thing, but seemed very weird to me. But I thought, you.

Seven headed dragon and you've got. So it's true. The Bible does depicts Satan in very picturesque ways as a seven headed dragon. That's for sure. Does the fact that the Bible presents the devil as a seven headed dragon then give us the freedom to believe in a tentacle demon that engages in mind control and is sneaky?

You know, no.

Those with four different faces in a lion, ox, eagle, man, you see. So he's.

Trying to make sneaky squids. It's just like believing in the the lion, ox, eagle, man, creature in the throne room of God. No, it's not. Because both the ten headed dragon and the eagle, ox, lion, man, creature thingy, those are in the Bible.

The sneaky squid spirit isn't. I don't know. Could it could it could be symbolic of tentacles or something? Could it be? Could it be? Could it be? This is not how you do biblical teaching or biblical doctrine.

So since since you wrote about it, just take a minute to explain what you understand. And was this something symbolic or not?

Yeah, I see, you know, in a sense of it being symbolic.

It's a symbolic thing. It's not it's not a literal squiddy thingy. It's a symbolic squiddy thingy.

For example, we have the Jezebel spirit. Now, we don't. I don't think there is a thing called Jezebel. I think it's essentially spirit of seduction because in Revelation 2 and 20, Jesus speaks of this woman.

Jezebel is mentioned in the scripture in both the Old and the New Testament.

Calls herself a Jezebel who teaches who calls herself a prophet who teaches and seduces. And so, you know, I believe the spirit of seduction, we use the name Jezebel because we you know, we like to have a common vernacular to explain things, to talk about things.

You know, it's the same way the devil, the dragon is symbolic of the Lord. He's not a rock. He's not a fortress in the in the general sense. The word in the realist, you know, Jesus is not a lamb and.

Holy. Again, all of these things are found in the Bible. Sneaky squids are not. And so what that's this is what Michael Brown's doing. So this this basically makes it so. Yeah, I don't see that there's no problem here with the sneaky squid spirit.

So, Jennifer, you're just the victim of really hyper criticism of destructive criticism.

It is not a dove, but we sort of use symbols. You know, we see that in Scripture. So, you know, sometimes in the deliverance ministry, in the spiritual warfare ministry, we describe things by their function.

And so when.

Someone is... So this is all based upon her deliverance in her healing ministry, which is where you cast demons out of Christians. And so the theology is coming from her being a practitioner of a practice that is not.

Biblical. A squeezing pressure on their head, and it's affecting their nervous system, you know, it could be different. We call different things. I know people who are not charismatic won't understand this, but, you know, things like a python spirit.

We get that from the woman with the spirit of.

Divination and the book of Acts. Yeah, the spirit, the python spirit basically means it has something to do with the oracle of Delphi. Now, they're going to go to commercial. I'm going to back this off just a little bit during the commercial, so that we can get back to it, because they don't actually play the commercial.

All right, stay right there. We'll be right back.

Acts 16, Matthew 18, and the Difference Between Public Rebuke and Private Sin

All right, so they're coming out of the break, and.

Let's see where they go from here. It's The Line of Fire with your host, Dr. Michael Brown. Your voice of moral, cultural, and spiritual revolution. Here.

Again is Dr. Michael Brown. Thanks for joining us on The Line of Fire. We're talking about the difference between destructive criticism and.

Constructive criticism. It's destructive criticism to attack the.

Sneaky squid spirit doctrine. If you are critical of me or my ministry, the work that I do, or differ with me on any level, phone lines are open 866 -34-TRUTH. So, speaking with Jennifer LeClaire, editor of Charisma, she mentioned Acts 16 .16.

We see in our English translations that this slave girl had a spirit of divination, and yet, in Greek, the word divination comes from the Greek word python. Thayer's lexicon points out in Greek mythology the name of the Pythian spirit or dragon.