Road Trip DL: Report on Progress, Apologia Weighs In, Thoughts on Daniel 7, Mohler on Theonomy

Greetings and welcome to The Dividing Line, another road trip dividing line from our new, and I need to make sure to turn that volume down, don't I? Yes, I do. From our new studio here in our mobile command center, which, and there were two bridges today.

Let me tell you something, you don't notice this when you're driving a regular vehicle, but it's the entrance onto a bridge and the exit off of a bridge that there are certain states they just don't know how to do it.

I'm going to tell you, I did find some stuff in the back of the unit that was not where it was supposed to be when I got back into it and I know exactly where it happened. There were two bridges and there wasn't any place to go, you know?

I guess could have driven off the side, that would have probably exacerbated the problem, but anyway, we are here in Memphis, Tennessee on our way to being just north of Nashville on Sunday. I've already given you all the information, we won't go back over all of that, and then heading back the other direction starting on Monday and getting to good old prior Oklahoma and Derek Melton and the folks there, believe me, it never ever ever crossed my mind.

First time I ever flew into Tulsa was picked up by Derek and we went out to the out to the church and never ever crossed my mind that someday we would be there via an RV, but like I said, I blame him for a lot of this stuff.

He was the one that told us to get a diesel and we didn't do that and we should have and it was the setup on his pull behind RV that gave me the idea, hey, what if you had bunk beds in the back, then you could do what we've done here.

So anyways, that's the rest of this trip and then in July, 33 days, an entire week longer than this trip, actually more than a week longer than this trip, that'll be a big one. I had a wonderful time last night when I had to change this whole trip around because I was supposed to be speaking at something in northwest Georgia up in the corner there and that got canceled and so I had to sort of rearrange everything and so I'm looking at the map and going, well, I still need to go there, I still need to go there, so let's go to Conway, let's go to GBTS, contacted the guys there and they said, well, let's do something on that Thursday evening, an evening with James White and then I was given the topic and I appreciate Jeff Moore.

I love Jeff Moore. This guy is just one of the sharpest guys. His article in the first edition of the journal that we put out was just so, so good, which reminds me I only have a matter of weeks to be working on my article for the third edition of the journal which will be coming out, but anyway, Jeff Moore is a sharp, sharp, sharp guy, but he's a young, young, young guy and so I do enjoy being the old professor dude.

We were sitting at, now the other, one of the fellows that was with us was my age, probably a little bit older than me, but I'm sort of the old professor dude at GBTS and I like that and Jeff Johnson's younger than I am, a good bit younger than I am.

Owen Strand was there. He's obviously a bit younger and so we had a wonderful, I really wonder what the people around us, in fact, come to think of it now, everybody around us left, sort of wondering, they're sitting there going, what are they talking about over there, but we were having in-depth discussions on many of the topics that are controversial today, shall we say.

Wouldn't you like to have a recording of that? Well, there isn't one and so we did that in the afternoon and then in the evening. Well, the day before that, as I told you, I got to talk to guys in a recovery program, had a really good time doing that and then last evening I was assigned by Dr. Moore, who I'm very thankful listens because he said, hey, you've said many, many times that if you're in the academy, if you're in academics, you need to minimally read 1 Corinthians chapter 1 or even better have it preached to you about every six months.

So why don't you cover that? And so that was my assigned topic. I had 45 minutes. I took a little bit over 45, probably about 47. Hey, for anyone at Apologia, that was still fast. It was very, very fast.

And then Owen Strand came up and started asking questions and everybody enjoyed this. It changed. He wanted to talk a little bit about Thomas and stuff like that. I have no earthly idea. I cannot remember how it is that we transitioned into a discussion of my book on grieving, but we did and it became very, very, very pastoral.

And I even mentioned, I said, my, you know, the least favorite topic that I have to discuss is that one. I can do it. I've done it before. It does need to be discussed, but I just, even after years as hospital chaplain, I never developed the ability to turn off emotion.

And I have to wonder if that that's not a negative thing to be able to turn off your emotions. But it is hard on me to do the issue of grieving. It's, it takes a lot out of me. And I, and so of course what Dr. Strand said, well, next time you come, that's what we'll talk about.

Okay. All right. But Quatro Nelson was there and there were a bunch of folks that came. It was at the new location for the church there. They they've gotten a new building, a new campus. Everybody can now worship together in the same room.

And I, believe me, I get that. Apology. We can't do that. We, we have an overflow room as well. And so it was just, it was great. And it's not like the place was packed out, but there was a good number of people there and had great conversations with people afterwards.

And it was, it's why you do this. It's why you do these kinds of trips. So I will try to remember to link to the sermon audio recording of the, I don't know if it's, I don't know if they split it up between my First Corinthians chapter one presentation and then my discussion with Dr. Strand or what.

I'll have to look at that and see if I can figure that out. But I'll try to remember to link it when we get done here. I will undoubtedly forget and probably have to do it later, but there you go. Right before we got on the air, I ran across something.

What was it about a month ago? Maybe only like three weeks ago. Babylon Bee put out a hilarious video about the AI bots. And that the AI bot is actually this one guy who's just sitting there typing really, really fast.

And, you know, he's sort of like chained to the desk and they won't let him out for like, you know, he has to do 12 hour stints and this kind of stuff. And it was, it was funny because then they brought up the issue of how the bots are only allowed to answer in a certain way because the way they've been programmed.

And so they got rid of the guy. And the question was, if I recall, transsexuals and stuff like that. And they got, they brought a new guy in and the camera pans over and it's Kirk Cameron. And he's going, all right, let's get going.

And so I, it had been, I looked at it, it had been about three years since Kirk and I had texted back and forth. And so, but I'm like, he's probably like me. He's still got the same phone number he had in the 1990s, which is, which I do, which is why I have to set my phone up so that only people in my contact list can call me.

It'll actually ring through because my phone number is on. And of course I've filled out all the stuff to get it removed from all those lists. Nobody, nobody does that. You all know it's worthless. And it's like, I donated to some candidate in 2022, I think, no, 2020.

And now you can, you can type stop. You can put stop in every language, you know, you can put it in all caps. It doesn't matter when you type stop, that's telling them, go, keep going. He's there. This is still an active number.

Oh, it's maddening. Anyway, so I had texted Kirk and I said, Hey, love the cameo at the, on the Babylon Bee thing. And he said, and he typed back, somebody has got to do it. So, so it's interesting to see a OAN thing just popped up on my Twitter feed.

And first, first interesting thing to see is to see Kirk trying to catch up with me in how gray his beard is getting. That, that was, that's very, very interesting to see. But the main thing is what he says here, I agree with, but from the world's perspective, how long will it be until this is absolutely forbidden speech?

Well, given the new CEO of Twitter, maybe next week, I don't know. I don't know what's going on there. It's troubling, but I did want to play this for you and just make a brief comment on it. So.

Here's here's Kirk Cameron. The target is always children. And that's why God gave children to parents, not to governments, not to woke institutions that are then staffed and manned by those who want to undermine the faith and values that made America great and that advanced the good.

So we shouldn't be surprised that nefarious forces are targeting children because the goal is ultimately the collapse of the family and the killing of God in America, because what that does is it so destabilizes our moral and societal structures that it can then be replaced and reorganized with something different like progressive socialist communist ideas.

And.

That has always been the plan. So I, I, of course, agree. This attack upon children, the what we see every single day, every single day, you turn on your your computer, you do anything in social media and you are just stunned by by what is there and what is being presented to you.

Yes, he's exactly right. It is part and parcel of the entire plan. And I've often commented on the fact that, yeah, you know, my time in a public school was very important to my development. Eventually, as an apologist, we tried to make Christian school options available for our children.

My son did graduate from a from a Christian high school and they went to a Christian grade school for a period of time. But it was Summer who requested to go to the public high school. I've told the story.

She said, I prefer my unbelievers straight up. That was a comment on how few Christians there were at the Christian school that we were paying through the nose to have her at. And of course, she ended up having very important apologetic type experiences in the public schools.

But she would tell you the same thing that I would tell you now. That's just simply not a possibility any longer. The NEA is simply one of the most evil organizations that has ever existed on the planet.

And I'm not saying that there's no humor in that. It is. It is designed to destroy your family and your children. That's what the NEA is. And I have a friend who's been battling the NEA for a couple of years now and winning, by the way.

We've got to give him the credit that he deserves. I have a friend back in Missouri that founded a PAC. His grandchildren were in a school district. And as in pretty much all school districts, it doesn't matter where you are, all the CRT and stuff like that was coming in.

And there were a number of financial irregularities, which is hardly shocking either. So he started a PAC and they have now taken over the school board. In two elections, the first year was two people.

This year is three people. So now they have the majority. And he was out there printing the signs, putting the signs up. He's a go-getter. And so they did what they needed to do. But of give up. And he's like 71 years old.

So you have local victories, but those local victories have to be things that are repeated over and over and over again. And the NEA just detests him. I have jokingly talked about the NEA snipers will get him eventually.

And that's only slightly a bit of a joke. But things have changed radically. And the whole intention is to destroy the family, the foundation, and to make children wards of the state. But anyway, that was, I just saw that right before we got started.

So I wanted to make mention of that. Don't wanna go too far with that. I listened to, I had a fairly short trip today, and that was very helpful. And on the drive, because it's bad weather for a while, really windy.

Some of the strongest crosswinds I've had so far with the new rig. It did fine, but it was blowing and rainy and trucks would go by you and you could barely see where you're going. It was interesting.

Anyway, I listened to Apology Radio from last Tuesday, I think it was last Tuesday, on the subject of Christian nationalism. Now, most people would think, well, you're one of the elders of that church, so I'm sure you all talked about it beforehand.

No, not when I'm on the road, and even not when I'm there, necessarily. Because Jeff and Luke and Zach Morgan, as well as the other Zach that's spelled differently, we just do different, Zach Conover, we spell things differently.

It's the only way you can tell people apart, I guess. Anyway, they're in the studio. Now, by the way, Apology's studios are moving, and that's going to be a lot of work that, gosh, I'm just not there to help carry stuff.

And if they decide to do it in June, I'll have to start my July trip very early. But anyway, there's plenty of young guys to do the heavy lifting. We don't need my torn up left shoulder to be being used for all that stuff.

Anyway, I saw the, if you're not in the studio, you're not going to be part of hearing what the world's going on. So I'm very frequently sitting there going, oh, is that what's happening? I don't know.

It's just the way it is. I'm the only guy who's full time someplace else with Alvin and Megan, and so that's how it works. So I was really interested. I wanted to hear what was being said for many, many reasons, and it was really, really good.

What they did is they responded to one of the G3 podcasts. Well, they responded to portions, small portions of, if I recall correctly, I think, was that the one they were talking about, Mere Christendom, or about Stephen Wolf's book?

I forget which one it was. Anyways, you need to realize, Jeff and Josh Bice, Jeff Durbin and Josh Bice, worked together very closely just recently in concert with End Abortion Now to get a bill into the Georgia legislative system, and if you haven't figured this out yet, because if you watch the left, this is how it's done, you introduce bills and they get shot down, and the process, you find out who your allies are, then you start working on more allies, and it takes time.

Very rarely is a bill just simply plopped in and, hey, it goes all the way, and the biggest battle that End Abortion Now has right now is dealing with the pro-life industry. The pro-life industry wants abortion to continue but to be limited.

That's why they exist, and their big thing is you can never, ever punish the mother for the murder of her child, so go to End Abortion Now, watch the many, many, many, many videos where Jeff goes through the arguments about this, because End Abortion Now is a Christian organization, and the whole foundation and premise is the only way to deal with this is through the gospel, okay?

And so what do you say to a woman who murders her unborn child? You are the victim? Is that what you say to her? If there is nothing wrong with what she's done, then you can't direct her to a savior because it's not, she didn't do anything wrong, she was a victim, see?

And everybody knows that's not the case, and that's why you see so many videos that they'll put out, not a victim, where the women are going, you know, they're celebrating the murder of their unborn children.

They're not a victim. The vast, vast, vast majority of those that are pursuing abortion do it simply as a mechanism of birth control. So anyway, Jeff has worked very closely with Josh Bice, and I was very, very glad that that partnership developed when they went out to Atlanta, and they met with hundreds of pastors, or at least over 100 pastors, I guess I should put it that way.

And so Jeff has a lot of super kind things, almost too many super kind things, to say about Josh and Virgil at the beginning of this particular program. And so Jeff made it very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very clear that even though they're going to be responding to and disagreeing on things, that this is not something that causes, should not cause division, and this should just be the first of a lot of back and forth discussions.

And I, like I said, I listened to the whole thing. I complimented the guys. We have a signal group that we're in, obviously. Jeff mentioned that they're going to be doing more programs. They're going to continue, because they didn't get to nearly all the stuff they wanted to get to.

I offered to make sure that Josh knew about it, and he said, already taken care of. He sent me a tweet, so Josh had heard the response. And this is what needs to be taking place. You know, Doug Wilson responded to Scott O 'Neill's review of Mere Christendom, and I believe Scott has responded to Doug.

And what I appreciate about Scott's statement, his review of Mere Christendom, now I didn't agree with everything. And that's probably what we're going to be discussing at G3 for the pre-conference conference in September, sponsored by GBTS, because I'm the only post-millennialist.

And of course, a lot of people are saying, this is all, you have to be a theonomic paedo-baptist. And while the points that Jeff and Luke and Zach made is that that's not the case, the real issue from their perspective, because Christian nationalist is not a term I like, it's not a term that Jeff likes, it's way too silly putty-ish.

You know, you can stretch it any which direction. It's liable to a lot of abuse. And the very fact that I raised the issue of sacralism, and it caused people to lose their minds and behave as children, gives you an idea of just why, you know, we're not really concerned about that.

But Jeff can very rightly say, and said a number of times, look, our response from this is coming from where apologia has been from the start of the church in the early 2010s. And what they've been saying, especially about abortion, what they have been saying to the magistrates, what they have been saying to the legislatures, that you are under responsibility before God to protect these innocent children.

Well, how do we know that? By what standard do we make that presentation? By what standard do we make that claim? And so, go and listen to it. I will try to remember to link to that too, so that you can start following along.

Because my hope is, if the mature people out there will just start ignoring the memesters, and start ignoring the people that, I'm just going to meme harder, just let them go do their thing, you know.

If they want to use, like, I guess one of the things, I've only seen it a few times personally, maybe it's just because of my feed, I don't know, but loser theology. I guess this is what some people are saying in regards to anything that isn't Christian nationalism, is loser theology.

There are a bunch of terms Let me put it this way. What we're seeing with Doug and Scott going back and forth, respectfully, because what I forgot to finish a thought earlier, I do that a lot. Scott Anuel, who is one of the top people in G3, and fellow professor at GBTS, as is Josh Weiss, as is Owen Strand, as is Jeffrey Johnson, there's connections there, but not unanimity, not sameness.

Unity on the matters of the faith, but not unanimity in understanding how to make application of all these things, which is a good thing. But Scott had pointed out a number of, he had done what the memesters and the young guys aren't willing to do, and that is to go, you know, there's a lot that we actually agree on here.

All of us have to recognize that we are watching a society that is doing everything it can to slash its wrists and its throat to bring about its own destruction, and it's accelerating, and anyone who knows that Jesus came, that we might have life, might have it more abundantly, when you see your society doing everything it possibly can to destroy itself and to engage the culture and to become the culture of death, you can't be silent.

You have to say something. And so Scott had very rightly pointed out, you know, there's this, we have so much in common, we have so much that we share together, but here's where I differ, and here's, and when you respectfully do that, and you stick to the subjects, and I would suggest even allowing a certain amount of time to pass so that, you know, Scott has now responded to Doug, okay.

I'd love to see Doug respond back without doing a formal debate or longer articles that can only go so far before you start repeating what you said before. I would love to see a public discussion. I would love to see maybe the exchange of much fuller articles, whatever, but the point is, my hope and desire, because I know both men, I actually know Doug better than I know Scott, but my recommendation, my exhortation for both would be, if the Lord's put you in a position to where you all are representatives of two different perspectives, here is an opportunity to demonstrate the presence of the Spirit of God, the fact that we really do recognize and know that the things we agree on are more important.

The many, many, many things we agree on are more important than the things we disagree on. We say that with words, and then we deny it with our actions, and we deny it with the emotions that we bring in, and the offense that we feel, and the attacks that we make, and everything else that goes along with it.

I hope that there will be a continued conversation that will, by its maturity, demonstrate how this needs to be done for the younger men who want to know. There's nothing you can do about those who are just into the scorched earth thing, all right?

But for those who want to know, that they will be able to recognize this type of thing. Now, once again, Rich, I'm going to need you to do what we did last time. I wasn't planning on this, but I did know it was a possibility.

I guess our current system does, and I need to learn how to do this myself. But you'll recall that we had someone come to my door last time, because we're live. I'm in an RV park, and I just had a neighbor pull in, and I have a Starlink dish out on that side, which is technically their side of things.

I'm not using it right now, thankfully. We were trying to get it set up, make sure it'd be usable, but it was back and forth, back and forth like it had been before. But they're just now pulling in, and so I'm going to need to take about a three-minute pause, go grab that thing, get it out of their way, and then we'll be able to go back to what we were talking about.

So live webcasting, that's how it works. We will be right back. All right, thank you for that quick break. I actually lost Rich there. I was sitting here going, hello, Lucy, and as exactly as I expected to, the next-door neighbor just pulled in, saw me moving the Starlink thing.

Hey, if you got good reception there, leave it there. No problem. We're not going to be using it. I still wanted to get it out of their way. There's just sort of rules, and that side is their side. And they said, we're only here for the night.

We're not even going to put ours out, blah, blah, blah. Everybody's always nice. Well, okay, there may be a few exceptions, but in general, everybody really works together in RV parks. It's cool. Anyway, back to the important subject at hand.

I would encourage Scott Anuel and Doug Wilson to continue this conversation, just as I will encourage Jeff and Luke and Zach Conover to continue the conversation with Josh and Virgil. All of this is very helpful to me because it's all preparation for September.

And it would be really nice if by the time we get to the pre-conference before G3, if maybe we've helped to define some certain things. Because I certainly felt that, for example, in the Apologia response to G3, at least the first one there, that it was really clear.

What Jeff said was, hey, for us, this isn't an issue about Christian nationalism. We don't want the title. We're just doing what we've always done. And the reason we're doing what we're doing is because we're post-millennial theonomists, general equity theonomists.

And that's where the connection with Doug Wilson is. That's where the connection with Doug Wilson is. That's where he's coming from. And that's where the division is with Stephen Wolfe. We looked at that in the last couple of programs, the statements that were made there.

That's a huge difference. And I think it's really, really, really important. Because Doug says it. I say it. Jeff says it. The actual creation of a situation where governmental authorities are actually seeking to obey Christ's Word requires the work of the Spirit of God and having changed their hearts.

At the same time, their argument was, okay, if we're saying to the magistrates, this is what you need to do. If we're saying to the magistrates, murdering infants in the womb will bring God's judgment not only upon the nation, but upon you as an individual.

Then we have to be prepared to then answer the question, what happens if they go, my goodness, you're right. Thank you, pastor, for bringing this to me. Now what do I do? And you have to be able to go, here's the standard.

Here's your standard. That's the real issue. What's the standard supposed to be? If we are all made by the triune God, then His standard is the only standard that is going to bring life to us. And if the Christian church says, you know what?

Hey, we have all this light in Scripture. We have all this light in the new covenant. But when it comes to government, the no way at covenant is enough. Common grace plus a no way at covenant, that'll do it.

And you're like, really? If the magistrate turns to you and says, okay, what do we do next? You're going to say, no way at covenant, common grace, just do the best you can. Yeah, that's not going to work well.

So my hope is these conversations, because I hear a lot of people going, I'm just so sick of it. I hope that most of what people are sick of is the immaturity. Because there's some really immature people out there that are just throwing smoke bombs and stink bombs and doing graffiti on social media and that type of stuff.

And this is a really good point. One of the things that was mentioned to me at the seminary was a real concern that there are young men getting all excited about Christian nationalism and losing their fervor for such things as visiting the sick in the hospitals and doing the kind of pastoral ministry that has to be done all the time.

Now, again, what's your source of hope that you share with the people in the hospital? It is all connected. I get that. But there has to be balance. And that reminds me, I don't have it up. I don't even know that I could find it because it's sold now.

But I get done with the program and I sit there and go, oh, I forgot to mention that again. There is some young man on Twitter that I don't follow. I've never heard of him. But someone sent me a screenshot of him saying that, well, I have muted the G3 guys and I've muted James White because I just can't handle the damage they're doing to my faith.

And I did mention this on the last program. I just realized it. But it connects up with this, with what I'm saying right now. And I call that imbalanced. Why is that imbalanced? Because this man said in other tweets, I've learned so much about Trinity, Reformed theology, so on and so forth.

But now this one thing, this one area, is it because we're seeing the radical nature of what's going on right now? Well, it is radical. And it is happening so fast. And it's vitally important. I get it.

But it still has to remain balanced. And I'm seeing people going, oh, yeah, you know, over the years, what, you know, I learned a lot from Josh Bice and G3 and, you know, the sermons that have been presented there have just always been, you know, so helpful.

And so you just throw all that out now? Because on one subject, they've said, no, we don't think this is the direction to go. So I'm just going to shut them off. What if we had done? What if Jeff and Luke and Zach had done that?

And said, you know what? We're not even going to listen to what G3 had to say. We're not even going to listen to the webcast. We're not even going to interact with it. You wouldn't have the useful conversation going on.

You wouldn't have the useful conversation when you talk to Doug Wilson and Scott Ammiel. So there is a concern that we need to have balance. And as important as, you know, we're literally talking, we are literally talking about the purpose of the church, the relationship of church and state, all those things are important.

But it doesn't mean that they are more important than the things that even provide us with our brotherhood, our union with one another. My friends in Germany will testify that I have raised this issue over and over again while teaching church history to them.

And that is the early church feared division more than anything else. Now that may have itself been imbalanced because you see division in the New Testament. But if we've erred any direction, it's that we've gone the other direction, that we're just so used to having three different churches on every corner.

And the fact that they can't get along and in fact, try to steal sheep from each other, that's just sort of become a given. There needs, we need to give serious thought, you know, before you dismiss someone, before you mute someone, before you just simply go, so much for that.

Have you really seriously considered the length of their ministry, the depth of their ministry? How long have they been at it? There's really, and I know it's really easy to go, well yeah, white beard, it's real easy for you to talk about this now.

There are biblical passages about honoring elders and there's something in presbyteros that actually refers to age and experience. And before you just go, yeah, well, so what? You're, so you're getting old, big deal.

I've lived by this my entire life and I'll give you a glowing example that most of you all know about. How did I treat Norman Geisler when I wrote The Potter's Freedom? Chosen but free was not a good book.

It was not well researched, it was not well written, it was not well argued. Despite that, I bought out of print books that Dr. Geisler had written long before and tracked down articles and I bent over backwards to be accurate and respectful even in completely shredding Dr. Geisler's arguments.

Because, you know, I mean, I see people saying things and part of it's social media, part of it is the impersonal nature of that glowing screen, I get it. But I see people saying things to people that are 40 years older than they are, have been in the ministry longer than they've been a lot, that I would never have thought, would never even dreamed of thinking and saying when I was a 20 year old guy.

I lived by that. So I think in our situation today, we really need to revisit basic biblical principles about honoring those who have been serving for their entire lives and asking what can I learn from them?

And not why am I so wise even though I've actually never pastored a church, I've never done the Lord ministry, I've not taught, but I've figured out that I know everything there is to know. There's a lot of people in that context and it's not a good thing.

So I want to see these things continuing. Now, I want to throw out a text here and I sort of lost track of the time because I'm not, I think we only missed three or four minutes there. I want to throw out a text and I want to, out of sync?

You mean, oh, well, I just moved the Starlink thing around, it's undoubtedly lost. Okay, but do you want to stop and restart? Starlink was my backup, but when you grab it and just simply move it, it loses everything and it takes it quite some time to get back.

I mean, it could be back right now, I don't know, but I have no way of testing it without looking at it. So do you want to start a new session or what do you want to do? Okay, so have we fixed our problem?

Does it look like it's a little bit more synced up? Okay, all right, well, hey, this program used to be all audio, so syncing lips and syncing ships, what can I say? Though I don't understand why that would cause that, though I could have some theories, but we'll have to worry about that at another point in time because there's two more things I still want to do, and so that's what I want to do.

I want to throw a text out. I don't like the term thought experiment, but I want to ask you to think about some of the possibilities here. And a lot of people really enjoy when we get into looking at the text of scripture and doing things like that, so let's do it and see if this won't help us.

Oh, I just realized, sorry, got to remember to get the, I wish there was a way to attach this to the screen, but I got to get the pen out, be able to write on the screen, so live webcasting. Okay, let's take a look at a text that is normally, normally we would raise this text with like Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Muslims, anyone denying the deity of Christ.

So let's see if you recognize it. It's from Daniel chapter 7. I kept looking in the night visions and behold the clouds of heaven, one like a son of man was coming. It came up to the ancient of days and came near before him, and to him was given dominion, glory, and a kingdom that all the people's nations and men of every tongue might serve him.

His dominion is an everlasting dominion which will not be taken away, and his kingdom is one which will not be destroyed. So we know why this is so important because of why. Why is this so important? Remember what Jesus does with this.

Jesus takes this text in his trial in Mark chapter 14 around 60, 61, I don't have it up right now, and he joins it with Psalm 110, and it should simply be a given that Jesus's interpretation of Old Testament passages trumps anything else, and if he is combining these two together, Psalm 110, God's favorite Bible verse quoted most often in the New Testament, and then the enthronement of the son of man vision in Daniel, that means this is incredibly important.