Live From Flagstaff: Defending Allie Stuckey’s Common Sense and More

Welcome to the dividing line coming to you sort of live. The way things are done these days via the Internet. From Flagstaff, Arizona where it's not nearly as hot as it is in Phoenix. Things supposed to like 109 or something like that at 111.

I forgot what it was in Phoenix, but up here in the high country in virus plagued Arizona, I heard today that If you want to go to New York that you get a 14-day Quarantine if you if you go to New York, I'm not interested in going to New York.

But if I had been planning on New York, that would probably pretty much end my plans on going to New York. So yes, indeed. Here we are the summer of 2020 it is the longest year in history very clearly.

And we're we're barely halfway through so yeah 2020s can be turned into a verb. Let's not go full 2020 on that. I've seen some interesting memes that people are coming up with and I I have to agree with them there the only the only thing that worries me is What's 2021 can be like?

Yes, that's. That's nothing about that, but anyway, welcome to the program what we're gonna do today on the program. I'm going to start off by putting up a Tweet. Let me see if I can do that for you without messing everything up but here is a tweet that I think Should be coming through to you clearly.

Hope so. Anyways and You have a meme from Ali Beth Stuckey. That says the following in my experience as the Christian moves to the left politically they begin to take the Bible less seriously. I've never seen someone become more liberal socially or politically while becoming more solid theologically.

Biblical inerrancy seems to give way to cultural relevance now. It's easier for me to address. I'll come back to that in a moment. It's it's easier for me to address Really denominational contexts entire groups.

Individuals, I mean I suppose you could posit the idea of a specific individual who in for some reason would become more solid in their understanding of what inspiration means. The consistency of Scripture that's generally not what happens when someone is moving to the left culturally.

Philosophically things like that and we can provide so many examples of this and Interestingly enough one of the general the gentleman who commented on that which we'll look at in a moment. Martis B is an example of this but just look at a Matthew Vines Who Begins with a certain set of arguments.

Because he was raised in a particular context that had a higher view of Scripture. What's the what's the what's the track over time for himself? Look at any church that becomes quote-unquote affirming look at any denomination.

Look at seminaries. Oh goodness. It would be so easy to look at you know, my personal experience fuller theological seminary. People have always often asked well, why did you go to fuller. Because I didn't have any other choices to be honest with you.

There had been a few days When I was very seriously looking at Golden Gate Baptist Theological Seminary Up in the Mill Valley area, which no longer exists sadly. But right the impending arrival of our first child pretty much ended that I had to if I was going to Continue on my education having graduated from Grand Canyon College if I want to do anything more in theology.

There was at the time in Phoenix and we were dirt poor despite our white privilege. We were dirt poor and so There was there was only one option and the nice thing was at the time fuller Fuller's Phoenix campus drew very heavily from Grand Canyon.

So for example, that's why I was able to take seven years of Greek with the same professor. I took four years Canyon three years fuller with the same professor. I've often jokingly said that he had hair when I started with him and seven years later He did not and that is happens to be true.

I Don't know if you know Correlation causation there's lots of discussions about things like that. So anyway. But and of course in the providence of God, I have said many times to friends and co-workers in the ministry.

At the time I did not understand why I was going to fuller. I I do fully understand why it worked out that way. Has been one of the greatest advantages that I've had when I debated should be Raleigh in 2006 my first truly Muslim debate at Biola in California.

The advantage that I had and that Shabir knew I had that night Was I had taken from him the advantage he had in debating most apologists most apologists are conservative theologically speaking and Don't know a lot about liberalism and he had utilized our liberal scholars to his advantage and all the debates I had heard him doing Didn't work for me because I went fuller and of course I graduated in 89 started 85 Fuller was not nearly as far to the left as They are today and isn't it interesting you can count on one hand with fingers left over the number of schools and seminaries that have a record of going from left to right.

The stand I mean the history of denominational seminaries and schools in the United States Goes one direction. It's almost like You know, you've heard the stories about which direction things spin whether you're in the northern hemisphere the southern hemisphere.

When it comes to theological schools institutions Bible colleges seminaries and denominations. It is a long history of Going left left left. Finally the believers in a denomination give up splitsville and Sadly, I just don't know if we just aren't really good at this or what?

The liberals keep all of the buildings in the money and the conservatives go out and start all over again. And It stands firm for a while and then it starts going left left left left left and then it just repeats itself over and over and over and over again this is how it has worked for quite some time now and This is the case with nominations.

You Certainly some denominational and church splits Don't have anything to do with the tendency and the direction of theology. I've told the story that a friend of mine and I were driving out to the Andersonville prison from Back in the Civil War days.

I'm sure they'll tear that thing down before long. Everything's gonna get Later. But We'd be driving through a town and there'd be the first Baptist Church and then you turn a corner. And there's the second Baptist Church and you go over the hill and there's the third Baptist Church.

I think the farthest we got once we got into the country was the seventh Baptist Church now. The theological distinctions between those seven churches were very very very small. Most of it was personal.

Personalities color of the drapes color of the carpet, whatever. These are these are reasons why people split. And so Baptists have always been really really good at splitting and that's why you have denominations.

Baptist denominations. That are all over the spectrum from the IFB super conserved over here to American Baptists over here that are not even really at least now Trinitarians so massive wide split and almost any Presbyterian denomination you talk to their history is.

Well, you know it used to be this and then liberals went this way and then this way and then you know. Sometimes you'll end up two denominations that both have left liberals are now really small and struggling and so let's get together and so you'll you'll get Alliance churches and you know stuff like that and but the the spin is almost always to the left and History shows us that this is this is the reality and it is worthwhile thinking about why that is.

I will just briefly suggest to you that I think the primary reason for seminaries and Bible colleges Constantly moving to the left is because of an embarrassment on the part of the staff who want to be accepted at the world's table of scholarship and.

So the way that would that we do. Much of scholarship in the West especially at the graduate level where you have to come up with a new idea a new thesis for a dissertation. Well in the Christian faith something that's new is very often something that's heretical.

It's not that there aren't deeper areas of study you can go into. I. You know, there's all sorts of grammatical issues and things like that in the New Testament. It would be worth the deep dive but the the point is that if you believe that you already possess a body of divine truth, it's going to be very likely that trying to come up with new spins on that is.

It's gonna require you to be a little bit more open to heresy and that's really what has happened. Over the years you look at Union Theological Seminary. Union's just it's awesome example of this. Because you know here you have I Call it the walking dead seminary.

Because it's a corpse it died really a very long time ago. The TV series could literally last for 50 years if Union Theological Seminary is any indication of. How long walkers can go? I mean, you know a lot of us have sat around theorizing, you know, if walkers look as bad as they do.

Well, don't they eventually just fall apart? Just Things stopped just falls, you know, not much can't not very scary. All it can do is all it is the pair of teeth biting at you from the ground. It's that's okay.

That happens theologically too. And that's that's what Union is. But I can see the huge huge leftward swing in Fuller. Just since I graduated in 89 and and how it exists today, I mean I could never have survived a fuller Today.

But I could in the 1980s. That doesn't mean that I was comfortable. I Had to have those conversations. I had to put my hand up in in a New Testament class and and Defend a belief in inerrancy after the professor just gone through why you shouldn't believe in inerrancy.

But I didn't fail the class. In fact, I wasn't even I wasn't even damaged by. It was partly because the way I did it you you do it respectfully you do the work that you're asked to do. I wasn't trying to be some type of Nasty fundy guy in their midst even though I did call myself Fuller's token fundamentalist.

But I've seen the massive shift. And it's almost never arrested it's almost never stopped and. So as I watch People today as we've seen people, you know had another leader of a some Christian band or something become an atheist recently.

This this really isn't anything overly unusual. But it's interesting that very frequently when you when you first see that social media post. About well, you know, I've just got to be honest with myself about the questions I have.

It's gonna be six months to two years before they're marching in gay pride events and Calling all the authors of the Bible white supremacists or something like that. I mean, it's it takes some time. But it's coming and and we shouldn't be overly shocked and surprised when that kind of thing that takes place.

Why again is all of this well They went out from us. So it might be known that they were not truly of us there there is. Then years ago now that I preached that sermon the the blessings of apostasy, but the reality is the proclamation of the gospel brings to bear a Convicting truths that will eventually cause a rebel sinner to want to stop hearing those convicting truths and That can be accomplished in a number of different ways.

People try to do that from within the church because they're very invested in the church and that's where you get leftist theology and things like that or they just Break away and say fine. I'm not gonna do that a couple days ago, there was this huge firestorm on Twitter.

Where some Joe boy, I mean, I don't have it queued up. Sorry, but well I might actually but I I'm using the computer to do the live streaming. And so if I go looking for stuff, I can imagine messing things up.

But there was a joy Joe Loyan a female a woman. At least that's my assumption these days. It's just You're getting too old for this. But anyway she You know put out these this thread on Twitter about how she's a Christian, but she doesn't believe in Jesus she believes in the Christ Spirit and she doesn't believe in evangelism and and And she thinks that LGBTQ.

I I lost track after the I I'm not sure What's supposed to come after that now? I'm a little bit slow to try to I mean Remember when it was just LGBT Actually memories as LGB. I remember LGB. I don't know if they rest.

You know, I remember I'm a relative me I just remember just just G. And it wasn't all that long ago Because the T has changed everything and now it's LGB TQ. I something I don't know. There's a I think there's a P there might have been our I've lost track.

The the T thing is what messes everything up, but anyways She's saying that LGBTQ. I RST you the individuals are divine and Should be in leadership of all of us or something along these lines. It's just like okay, and You read through the the thread and it's here is a a person saying Yes, I'm a Christian and I don't believe in Jesus and I reject everything that the Christian faith has ever stood for defined anything and There's all these people Just just going that's impossible.

What are you talking about? I Read that kind of stuff and I just go that's the that's the natural end of the progression. I mean, I really honestly think that most of the people at Union Seminary if they would just be Consistent themselves.

That's where they they will end up. That's what it should end up anyways. This is what leftism is and I was raised and I've said this before I was raised referring to this as liberalism but I have purposely stopped adopting that language because Liberality is the giving of freedoms.

Initially it was used, you know claiming freedom from certain dogmas. Okay, but what we're seeing today isn't liberalism. It is leftism and The one thing that that leftism does not have in its current incarnation is a liberal Giving freedom to people other than what the left says.

So this whole issue of leftism of the left. It's extremely attractive. It promises freedom and Given the nature of Christian truth, I think this is what's what's important. The very essence of the Christian faith Exists in opposition to our flesh.

Our flesh is always looking for ways to get out from underneath the all-searching eye of God and If we really understand what God has done in Christ then the all-searching eye of God is not something we fear we if we if we understand that we are called to come to the throne of grace and that the way has been opened to the Grace by the finished work of Christ if this is a part of our daily reality.

Then the a lot of the impetus for leftism in theology is Is banished just simply by that that recognition? Very very important to see that. But that's not what a lot of people have. I don't know how many times I've said it but you know what you what you win them with is what you win them to when you win people to the faith through a Message that is centered upon them and their happiness and Self-satisfaction rather than take up your cross now yourself.

Follow me on the death march. You you end up with with a lot of people who will redefine What the Christian faith is about and they'll start small they're not Joe loyally or whatever her name was where you just Basically deny everything and say but I'm still a Christian and everyone wants to sit back and go why bother what?

What what are you gaining by even pretending this stuff? But it's a continuum and people are at different points long and some people stop at some point along the continuum not because they have any particular reason to but because.

That's where they feel comfortable. Maybe Maybe that's where their friendships allow them to be whatever but there isn't really a place that causes you to stop and will give you a solid foundation and.

So people end up Over time moving far far far from where they were and then of course you get the people who do that rather quickly and Then where they once were is now the world's worst thing and they're there now they become zealous in their crusade against their former faith and You know, you've seen the atheists and people like that.

That's that. If you didn't see the last. So far the first and last debate that Jeff Durbin nights together. We're gonna fix that someday. I hope I mean who know, you know. Who knew who knew we did that debate in Salt Lake City?

What what the next year was going to bring because that was. Hmm, but there you have an example of someone who was raised religious and then. Maybe a really really brilliant guy, but boy you saw what happened in that that type of situation so anyway going back to To Ali Beth Stuckey's a statement here.

Let's let's remind ourselves having spent all that time on it. So she said in my experience is the Christian moves to the left politically they begin to take the Bible as seriously now I might just stop and say.

Maybe the reason for their moves left politically is because of the underlying move their left and their understanding their scripture already. And in a Christian worldview I've never seen someone become more liberal socially politically while becoming more solid theologically.

Biblical inerrancy seems to give way to cultural relevance now. Immediately we emphasize the reality the biblical inerrancy is a small minority view. I think it's absolutely Fundamental. I think it's vitally important.

I've lectured on this for a long long time. I know All the reasons that people use to reject the it's you know NT Wright calls it that funny American stupid American doctrine. I I get it. I understand.

But it is a minority view and that tells you much more not not in church history. But in the current context, that's where you have a difference Between church history as an overview and the current context in our current situation.

These are but but I really want especially my audience to know Where you really are because I've seen a lot of people stumble When they discovered that what had been a given in the entirety of their Christian life Wasn't a given outside of the narrow range of their religious experience.

And I've seen people Really bothered when they came to understand that and part of it was because they thought we were saying the opposite of that they interpreted the teaching and preaching of their church as Communicating to them that all Christians believe as we believe on these issues and sometimes that especially in the Fundamentalist context that's exactly what is being said if you disagree with this on this entire Spectrum of issues and you're just clearly not a Christian so some people are saying that and then we don't I Try but we don't do a generally really good job in defining the parameters of the faith in defining Where To draw the lines.

We struggle a little bit with that I'm going to Everything's gonna shake here for a second, but hold on now. This is not gonna work if I try to type on it. But what I just did is I just propped up the back of the computer because you know How you start hearing the fans kicking on and they're they're up to 4 ,600 rpm.

And since we're using the internal microphone So I'm sitting there going I think maybe a little airflow might might help a little bit to To keep it from getting too much too much worse, or it may have no impact at all.

Who knows. We'll we'll see. So anyway. So why did I why did I specifically? Oh, hi. Rich Graphic is still up. Yes. I know it is. I'm going back to it. And I should probably take take what's app down on here so you can use that without it's making that Terrible noise.

Okay, so you can use it again and it won't make any any noise this time. What I want to do is okay. So there's what Ali Bestucky said. I saw a few people responding to her. But this was the response I specifically wanted to focus on and it's from Jamar Tisby and Jamar Tisby says This statement comes from a version of Christianity hermetically sealed one might say segregated from the rest of the Christian body the entire black church tradition refutes her myopic assessment and The sentiment is dismissive of countless Christians and their faith.

So I wanted you to see that. So that you can see exactly what Jamar Tisby had to say now. Why should we worry about what Jamar Tisby has to say? Well for those of you who don't remember Jamar Tisby was not sure whether he was the founder of or one of the primary movers of Ron reformed african-american network and we first Made reference to Ron probably Top my head 2017 maybe I'm thinking That's when the issue with the young black man It was flipping off the cops and as he walked in front of my car and in traffic and I wrote a 500 some-odd word basically a paragraph on Facebook and all Place blew up because I mentioned fatherlessness and I mentioned Rejection of authority and you know things like that and and everybody just just had a cow and that was I Think 2017 if I recall if I recall correctly, it was about a year before the MLK 50 stuff and then the reformed african-american network transitioned into the the witness and.

And if anyone has been following and I I'm sort of wondering is this why. Is this why Jamar? Responded. Sorry about that. Is this why Jamar? responded to Ali Bestucky. Because he sees himself in Her words.

Because he's got to know that where he Is today where he was 10 or 5 years ago or even 3 years ago and If you if you Recognize that Then you have to ask yourself the question. Well, what has changed and why?

I'm not most people says well if you're not exactly where you were 30 years ago Then you're just a terrible horrible compromiser, etc, etc. No there there is There is room and necessity of growth for all of us and The real issue is what about the foundations what about the very Core of the faith and the problem is the left-right split is normally focused upon core issues upon the issue of inerrancy upon the issue of inspiration upon what External sources you're going to allow to have a tremendous impact in how you think about the faith and I would Look, there are conservatives who Have the influence of external sources and don't know it I've talked about before in regards to fundamentalism.

Fundamentalists will say remember remember what Dave Hunt said me James. I have no traditions. That was one of the clearest examples that you could ever have of someone who has a tremendous amount of traditions.

But has no way of examining those traditions. No way of critically analyzing those traditions. Because of this overarching Presupposition that I I don't I don't have traditions. I only believe What's in the Bible?

Well, that's a noble sentiment. But if you don't actually practice it through meaningful methodologies of exegesis It's a great way to smuggle in your traditions and always do it under the basis of allegedly the scripture so The person on the right wants to Affirm soul scriptura and the sufficiency of scripture and tota scriptura the entirety of scripture.

The person on the left Knows now that you know when you first start down that road you may You may not want to admit this. You may want to try to stay away from it. But eventually something, you know, you wake up one morning and you go, you know, I I'm really seeing the Bible very differently than I used to and You have to ask yourself the question.

Why where is this gonna lead? And So I think that was behind. Maybe Jamar hearing an echo of something about himself. So when it says this this statement comes from a version of Christianity. Her medically sealed when I say segregated from the rest of the Christian body.

Well, so You have someone congratulating himself about how broad He is and what you know, this is this is great and When the member remember the emergent church stuff a Lot of people don't necessarily remember the emergent church stuff.

It it was a big splash for a while it For just about as long as. Was that prayer prayer of Javis prayer? Did you ever pray the prayer of Javis? No, you we got you before then good. Yeah, the emergent church lasted about as long as the prayer of Javis did but man it was there was an entire Publishing company that grew out of the prayer of Javis.

They made that much money off but I'm not sure if they're if they still have survived but Anyway The emergent church was a bunch of fundamentalists Who came to realize that a bunch of the things they believed as fundamentalists really weren't?

Representative of what the Apostles taught. But what they did is they then threw out all of church history throughout as in throw out not Throughout the other through. You need to come up with a different word there.

Anyway, the English vocabulary just throws us a real curve there Checked out. Yeah, okay they got rid of church history and Basically said, all right. Let's just put it all on the table. Let's reevaluate everything from the Trinity on up.

So it was the proverbial baby with the bathwater type thing. And and I Get the mindset coming to realize that You need to be free to examine what you've been taught there. Okay, there's always Always has to be a balance.

No question about it. But what happens with people on the road to the left is They see themselves Heading that way but they don't want to be honest themselves as to exactly what is what the Driving motivating factors are because if they're really awesome cells, they know my big thing is this social issue and I am starting to change my perspectives So that I can be more focused upon this one social issue.

This is the thing. That's why I believe one of the greatest signs of Christian maturity is That you realize that balance is the great key to obtaining Christian mature. That you're not looking for the one huge Lightning bolt from heaven that's all of a sudden going to enlighten you and enlighten you about it.

Not it'll light you up lightning bolt, but enlighten you and give you all that Maturity and things like that but you realize that the great challenge you're gonna have throughout your Christian life even into your older years is to remain balanced and Balance requires an understanding of what is absolutely foundational definition foundational and definitional to the faith and what is important and The the concentric spheres going out from there and Where you can draw that line as to what's absolutely necessary and then the space between that and where someone enters into a damnable heresy, which you can't always draw as nice and neatly as you would like and Just because one of your great heroes the faith drew it at some point doesn't mean that you necessarily have to do the same thing.

For example, I I don't recommend whatsoever the shooting of Unitarians or the burning of Unitarians. But I can still learn from people who in their context thought that was the necessary Way to go. Now, by the way, what I just said is the very attitude toward history, which is currently under full-scale assault in our society in our society today if anyone in history Was not a 21st century woke leftist Then they aren't worthy of even being remembered and every Monument their existence needs to be wiped away and if you're willing to Destroy the monuments have stood there for hundreds of years.

Then obviously you're going to be very willing to engage in the editing of the written text of history as well we should be very very well aware of this and And protect our history talk a little bit more about that maybe a little later anyway.

So there is a balance that there's to be had we we want to stand firm on the foundations of What scripture teaches? without taking that to the point where my personal interpretation of all these things becomes absolutely mandatory for everybody else and Everybody else has to agree with me on everything and everybody falls somewhere in that spectrum and So what I'm saying is maturity is Requiring you to think through why why am I here and not over there and not over there?

Could I go to that church over there if I couldn't why. But if a friend of mine goes over there, can we have Christian fellowship, even though I couldn't be a part of that church. See these are things that we should be thinking through but very often we don't and so there's Jamar Tisby is a smart guy.

And so he uses language in a very specific way. So when he says that this comes from a version of Christianity Hermetically sealed one might say segregated from the rest of the Christian body. Well, that sounds Really Really why is and it touches on a note that we can recognize as being important and That is we know people who are in a hermetically sealed segregated form of Christianity now, she's not and Saying what she said is not that but In so much as Certain fundamentalists could say what she said Then you can make that kind of of a statement Obviously, she actually has a much wider exposure to beliefs and perspectives so she knows that she's representing a Purposefully Conservative aspect of things and it's trying to make a specific point but once again hidden in the statement from Jamar Tisby is the sort of the presuppositional push that says The Christian body Includes Almost an unlimited variety of expressions and I'd be really interested in seeing how Jamar Tisby's interpretation of what the Christian body is has changed over the last ten years or Maybe only the last six years.

I think culturally Ferguson Was a turning point It was a turning point for a lot of people. I think it was a turning point for the beady. I knew wheelie. I Think it was a turning point for Jamar Tisby.

I think it was a turning point for Anthony Bradley and maybe faster or slower depending on the individual, but I think that's where a lot of this began and So I would love to be able to compare the Jamar Tisby of 2010 Jamar Tisby of 2020 and Ask questions of each That would shine a light on just what has changed and why is it change.

But then The care of the first sentence gives way to the lack of care the next sentence the entire black church tradition refutes her myopic assessment. And the sentiment is dismissive of countless Christians and their faith.

Now, I don't see how those two Clauses are actually overly logically related one of them there's two different assertions being made there and and one of them is really strange the entire Black church tradition refutes for myopic assessment.

So the entire black church tradition Maybe don't like it. I'm trying to hear What Jamar Tisby was saying maybe what he's saying is that the entire tradition has moved to the left and Because because we know that The Republicans and the Democrats go all the way back to the time of the Civil War and we know the Democrats were in the south and the Republicans were in the north and we know who freed the slaves and it wasn't Democrats and we know who started the KKK and it wasn't Republicans and We know who voted for the Civil Rights Act.

It wasn't Democrats. And so we know the history and yet The the black tradition quote-unquote is In the left is much more to the left than it is to the right, but I Would immediately be offended if I was any one of a number of black friends that I have and this is.

This is why my black friends who would oppose What Jamar Tisby says can simply expect to in essence be excommunicated from the black community. Or what we would call the black church tradition. Because there is a very strong desire to Have a monolithic group a monolithic representation and so My experiences when Vodie or Sandal or Could name a number of other guys write something and say something.

You know the just thinking podcast rose that goes against the flow of the leftward narrative in the black church. The terms that are used of them are terms That fundamentally denied their reality as a black person.

So who was it? Eric Mason. Eric Mason at Is it is either t4g thing or the MLK thing? It was two years ago now, they were really close together. In his comments talked about Black men who are black on the outside and Anglo on the inside.

Now there's a term that is used for that. He didn't use that thankfully in his talk, but it is used very very regularly in public discourse and social media. And I see it used all the time in a very racially insensitive fashion, but One of the big problems I have is that when you teach an entire group of people That they are not capable of Committing a particular sin.

That's the best way to make sure that sin is going to be committed. And if you tell an entire people you cannot be racists. That helps to foster racist attitudes if racism is a sin. Then all of Adams children are subject to that sin.

If you say that it's only a power structure thing and all the rest of stuff. You're you've you've completely lost the biblical categories. You're you're you're out in the woods someplace. Which is where we are right now to pronounce with you for everybody.

But It's not the entire black church. It's not a refutation of her assessment. In fact, if anything Jamar Chisby is sort of the living example of exactly what she was saying. And then to say the sentiment is dismissive of countless Christians and their faith again.

It's not her statement wasn't about Defining their Christianity her statement was an observation of the allowance of external sources to come in and become creating that they come in and create lenses through which you then read scripture and You end up changing the message of scripture in the process this is what leftism has done and is doing in our day and.

And so I wanted to comment on that not only in defense of what Ali Stuckey had said but then to unpack that so that we have an understanding an idea of why someone who once had the ability to argue that he was a conservative reformed Ministerial student why he would be where he is now.

What what's what are the parameters? What's what's going on there? That will help us to understand a lot of things are happening in our in our land right now. Now, I'm I'm not sure what's gonna be happening allegedly tomorrow.

No, allegedly today. I guess this didn't happen. It's Thursday, right? Okay. There there there was a threat to destroy a Monument of Lincoln and evidently the reason I have I have a massive studio audience of one here but Everyone's why you might hear some chuckling going on, but the alleged reason for destruction of the Lincoln Emancipation Memorial is because there is a black person represented in it at his feet.

Well, of course at the time it was made what that represented was the thanks of the black people for what Lincoln did but What it meant historically and how things are expressed in art doesn't matter to the barbarians who are Running out of our universities having been made barbarians in our universities to light fire to everything and Destroy it that's why they're called barbarians.

It's not that they don't know the history of Lincoln. They probably don't but they don't they they wouldn't care. It's the optics and it's the idea that We are correct in our modern day to bring anyone to the bar of history based upon our Current preferred standards not the standards in which they live not the knowledge in which they had not the Cultural situation would say existed.

None of that is is relevant. It does not matter Barbarians the barbarians that we are facing today. Emotionally on a decision level. On the offense level of what will offend them our children their children they are.

I'm just just gonna say it straight up I can drive down the road in any major American city and see things that are offensive to me. I can see people that are offensive to me. I can see signs are offensive.

I can see behaviors that are offensive to me and I do not stop my vehicle every 500 meters to jump out and spray paint something or Attach a tow line to my Subaru and and pull the thing over and drag it down the street.

Or anything like that at all. I generally when I get my vehicle I drive to where I want to go and My blood pressure really doesn't rise because of the things that could offend me on the way. This is called being an adult.