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Matt Slick Bible Study 2/3/2022
Oh, I got to put the microphone on. Where'd the microphone go? Oh, at the last second there. Right here.
Do you got a Bible app, Corey? No. I just had it. He needs to put a Bible app on his phone. All right. When was the last time you read your Bible? Okay.
All right, all right, all right. They can hear you on this, so they can hear you. All right. What we're going to do is just let people know we're going to be doing this, and we'll do a bit of an intro.
We'll see how it's going to go. It's going to take a while, a few weeks, I think, for people to get kicked in back into the issue. Hi, Carm. Her name's Carm. What? How do you spell her name? Carmella, was it?
So, her name, they call her Carm, and she comes in and confuses us. So, anyway, then Todd's here. So, hey, now people are coming in. Good. Okay, let's pray, and we'll talk, and we'll get into some stuff.
All right. Lord Jesus, thank you for tonight, and I ask, Lord, that you would bless it, bless the study of your word, and I ask, Lord, for the time that we study, that your spirit would be here, your presence would be here, and that you, Lord, would be glorified.
I ask for your mercy. I ask for your grace, and we ask, Lord, that you be with us. In Jesus' name, amen. Oh, yeah, there it is, the overhead light. Hold on, we're going to turn the light on in a sec. Right there.
There we go. Toggle switch. If you could turn it so it's flat, because the glare is right there. There's the handle on the side. Nope, nope. Right there. You can turn the knob. There you go. All right.
Okay, so this is our first day back. Perfect. So, and you could also raise the intensity, if you want, by turning the knobs. There's knobs. If you want, you can just turn them. See what you think. I think it's a good light.
Pretty good? Yeah, I can see Bibles. Yeah, it looks good. All right, so what I was thinking about doing was going through Philippians and starting into that. No one really said what they were interested in doing.
However, there are times when people like the idea of just answering questions or firing questions. Maybe we'll do one of those sometime. So what I figured was Philippians. For some reason, Philippians was sticking in my mind lately, and I thought, okay, I'll just do Philippians.
It's a nice book. There's devotional material, but there's also good doctrinal material. And we'll go through a few verses. We'll probably go until the bottom of the hour, and we'll just go through stuff.
There's a lot here, a lot of stuff. And we'll see. We have some new people over to my right over here. Basically, Ex-Pagan? Ex-Heathen? Yeah, we're going to talk some more stuff. After the show, or after the Bible study here, what we're going to do is talk about probably libertarian free will and self-contradiction that some people offer me as rationality.
I tease him. I just tease him. Oh, he likes it. He likes it. For some reason, my friends like it when I insult them. I don't know what it is. They get a kick out of it. All right, so Philippi, all right?
Philippi is a city in Macedonia. If you want to know where that is, think of Italy and about where Rome is, and then go across, I think it's the Adriatic Sea, and just go east. And then you hit the land, and you go in a couple hundred miles, and that's about where Philippi is, okay?
And the Philippi church had been established by the apostle on his second missionary journey, and you can find that in Acts chapter 16, 9 -40. There's some other mentions of the Philippi and Philippians.
Lydia, a seller of purple, was from Thyatira, was converted. She was from that area. And Paul was captured in the prison there, and a Philippian jailer was converted, and that's Acts 16. So the occasion of the writing of the Philippians is interesting.
Now, we don't know exactly, but it looks like what happened is that in Acts 17, when Paul was preaching on the Areopagus, and he appealed to Caesar because a rise up, he appealed to Caesar, which meant he was a Roman citizen, and so therefore, some think that he was taken clear over to Rome.
That's one view, and then he wrote Philippians while in jail there. And we're going to just jump right into verse 1. Paul and Timothy bond servants of Christ Jesus to all the saints in Christ Jesus who are at Philippi, including the overseers and deacons.
All right, so Paul and Timothy. Timothy was a disciple of Paul, and he worked with Paul, and he helped Paul out a great deal. A bond servant, the interesting word here in Greek is douloi, douloi. And what it means is someone who had chosen to stay with his master.
So sometimes a bond servant was designated by putting the earlobe on a doorpost of the home and then punching a hole in it, and it meant that that person had purposely committed to staying with that household for the rest of his life.
And it was called a bond slave or bond servant, douloi. So he's a bond servant of Christ Jesus to all the saints, the hagioi, and that's the word holy, but they're called the holy ones by imputation and by being in Christ.
I won't get into all that. In Christ Jesus who are in Philippi, including the overseers and deacons. A Greek word for overseer is episkopos or overseers, episkopoi, and deacons would be diakonoi. Anyway, it says bishops and deacons is all he's saying.
All right. Now, grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. Now what's interesting is that Paul uses this greeting seven times. Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Note what's interesting is that Paul the apostle is saying that Jesus is on the same level as God because it says grace and peace to you from God. God is the one who gives grace. God is the one who is gracious, and he's saying, look, he's saying, look, grace and peace from God and our Lord Jesus Christ.
So Paul the apostle is putting Christ on the same level as God the Father. So both the Father and the Son are the ones who are giving grace. Now, we've got to make sure that we don't think the way the Catholics do.
The Catholics think that grace is a substance that's infused into you by the participation of the sacraments. That's paragraph 1999 in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, and I think it's 2023 also, but 1999 for sure.
And so grace is a substance infused. When we say grace from God, what we're saying is that God is being gracious, that he shows kindness and mercy to us and more than what we deserve in a good way. That's what's going on here, and it's a greeting.
Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. And he goes on, he says, you know, I thank my God in all my remembrance of you. Well, that's interesting because what he's doing is thanking God, which means he's praying and he's remembering the Philippians.
Now, he had started the church and now he probably was in jail, and I'll show you why, because this has a Praetorian guard here. So he's in jail, and yet his concern is for the church in Philippi, hundreds of miles away, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of miles away.
And it's not like hundreds of miles here, we hop on a plane, we're there in a couple of hours, or we drive in a car, we're there in a day. This is weeks and weeks of travel to get from one place to another without communication, except by messenger.
And so he's thanking God, which means he's trusting God with the Philippians. That's interesting, because a lot of times what we want to do is we want to make sure that we are the ones who are taking care of things, and so we sometimes usurp what God wants to do.
We'll say, Lord, I want you to take care of it, but this is how I want it done. I want you to take care of something, and this is how I'm going to put my hands on it. What we need to be doing is saying, Lord, what do you want me to do, and how do you want me to do it, and use me as an instrument in your hand.
We move forward prayerfully. But what he's doing is thanking God in all of his remembrance of the Philippians. He's thankful to God. But this is a thing that Paul is often connected with, is his prayer and thankfulness.
And you can see it in 2 Corinthians 1 .11, for example, where he says, You also joining and helping us through your prayers, so that thanks may be given by many persons on our behalf for the favor bestowed on us through the prayers of many.
Ephesians 1 .16, Do not cease giving thanks for you while making mention of you in my prayers. Those thanksgiving and prayer are part and parcel of what Paul the apostle does. It's a good example for us to follow.
So there's different ways of praying and all kinds of different prayers we can get into. I should do a study on prayer sometimes. Anyway, let's move on to verse 4. Always offering prayer with joy my prayer for you all.
So when I read this kind of a thing, I don't know how others are, but do you pray with joy when you're praying for somebody? Now I've got to say that I really don't. This convicts me. I pray for my daughters.
I have two daughters and they're not saved. My wife and I nightly, we pray for them. I don't have joy in my heart. Now, I don't because their situation is lost, but what he's talking about is the church that he's planted, the believers who are moving towards Christ and walking towards Christ.
And he is seeing how they are growing and he has joy in his prayers for them. So it's different. There's different kinds of prayers, different purposes of prayers, and there's different levels of prayer.
But what he's doing is praying and offering those prayers in joy for, because that's what he says, always offering prayer with joy in my every prayer for you all. The prayer is considered an offering.
What's acceptable to God? It's a form of sacrifice. And I'll admit, sometimes just praying is hard. Sometimes. And I'll be in bed, and a couple nights ago I was in bed, and I'm going to sleep and I go, oh, I didn't pray about whatever.
Get out, get on my knees and pray. And it wasn't particularly enjoyable, but it wasn't bad. It's just, I need to do this. Sometimes there's not a whole bunch of joy. Other times there is. I'm so thankful for this and that.
We have different attitudes, but what he's doing here is just telling them, as he's writing to them, look, you know, I have joy with you. You're so pleasing. It's such a wonderful thing to hear. And this is a form of encouragement, because he's writing this out.
We've got to remember that people need to be encouraged, and they do need to be encouraged, particularly from the fathers, I think, a little bit more. But as he is offering prayer, what he's doing is submitting his will to God and saying, Lord, do with the Philippians as you desire, because he's lifting them up.
And our prayers always need to be catered to the will of God. It's okay to pray, Lord, please save so-and-so. But we always have to say, Lord, your will, not my will, be done. Because he may not want to save somebody, and that's a lot of controversy.
A lot of people might say, no, he wants everyone saved, 2 Peter 3, 9. Well, after we're done with the study, guys got questions, you can ask them in text, and then we can answer some of the questions and some stuff like that.
We've got over 30 people watching right now. All right. Now, verse 5, we're going to get to verse 6. We're going to talk about verse 6 for a while. He says, in view of your participation in the gospel from the first day until now.
So what he's doing is he's saying, I have joy in my prayers for you because of your participation in the gospel. Here, the gospel means the work of God that's occurring through people, for people, in a place, in what we call a local church body.
To participate in the gospel doesn't just mean just believe, but also to make disciples, as we were talking about. And it is true, because the participation does not mean doing nothing. And I don't understand how Christians can do nothing.
If you know Christ, and he's living in you, and you know people are going to hell, how can you keep quiet? That's something I've never been able to understand among Christians. Now, I get it that some people are intimidated.
Like my wife is intimidated to get on the radio with me, which I want her to do. She won't do it. Or get on TV when I do some ABN Sat TV stuff. Not all people can do that kind of thing. There are different ways of participating in the gospel, from being an honest businessman, an honest worker, to a good, faithful mom, a good, faithful dad.
But we do this because in the gospel of Jesus, who died on the cross and rose from the dead, and we're bought with a price, the price of the blood of God, Acts 20, 28. Therefore, as we submit to that gospel, submit to Christ, we are submitting and participating in that gospel message.
The gospel is not—it is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus. That's 1 Corinthians 15, 1 -4. But it's also in the good news that we don't have to keep that law to be saved. Of course, doua engelia, that's what gospel means.
That's what the Greek word is. It means that the whole complete aspect of what that gospel message is to walk forward serving Christ and picking up our cross daily and following after him, as Luke 9, 23 says.
This is what he's talking about. And in fact, Jesus also says in Matthew 10, 38, and he who does not take his cross and follow after me is not worthy of me. Well, that's Matthew 10, 38. And that verse, I'll tell you, kind of bothers me.
Because you don't take up your cross and follow after him, you're not worthy of him. So what does it mean to take up your cross and follow after him? Well, the thing about the cross is, in that context, in that time, a cross was a place of death.
Death to yourself. A place of ridicule. A place even of mockery and a place of suffering. And he who does not take his cross and follow after me is not worthy of me. So what he is saying is interesting.
Follow me at the cross. Follow me to the cross. Follow me carrying that cross. Which means dying to yourself. Marriage has a way of doing that, where you are forced, because of proximity of living with someone who's not as perfect as you.
This is what my wife has to deal with. And so she has to carry her cross. Marriage does that. Friendships does that. Businesses do that. To sacrifice ourselves and to seek the betterment of another. Philippians 2 talks about that.
We'll get into that later. So verse 6 is an interesting verse. It's probably one of my favorite verses in the book of Philippians. For I'm confident of this very thing, that he who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
This is an interesting verse. There's a lot here. So Paul says he's confident. Of what? The thing that he says he has confidence in is. I didn't turn the light on here, did I? Is. Where's this light? There we go.
That's what this whole thing's for. There we go. That's a little bit better. You can see my face better. I don't know if that's a good idea, but nevertheless. For I'm confident of this very thing, that he who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
It's most probably referring to the father. The father who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus. A lot of people don't know. God causes us to be born again. 1 Peter 1 .3 We're born again, not of our own will.
John 1 .13 God grants that we have faith. Philippians 1 .29. And our believing in Christ is the work of God. John 6 .29. Also, in John 14 .23 Jesus is the one who is living in us along with the father.
And we're born again, as John 3 .3 -8 talks about, by the work of the spirit. So you see, he who began a good work in you. Now Paul, the next chapter in Philippians 2 .12 -13 says, Work out your salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who is working within you, both willing to work for his good pleasure.
So the idea here that we're seeing is that God begins something in us. As some cults say in false religious systems like the Roman Catholics and the Eastern Orthodox, they will say that God begins a work in you and you have to perfect it and you should make it to salvation.
So last night, for over two hours, I was on a chat room, let's just say having a rather energized conversation with a lot of heretics. And I actually wrote out a sentence, which I still have up there.
And I asked this guy, I said, is this correct? And we worked it out and the summation of salvation. And notice what this verse says, they would use this kind of verse incorrectly. He who began a good work in you will perfect it.
What he said was that God continues to grant you salvation, if you continue to believe and if you do good works. So you maintain your salvation by the works that you do along with the faith that you have.
So this is what cults teach. What I actually did was I went to the Book of Mormon, Second Nephi 25, 23, which says you're saved by grace through faith after all you can do. And he says, yeah, that's true.
I went to February 13th, 1983, page 12 in the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society and read where it says that the second requirement for salvation, I didn't read that part. I said salvation is more difficult.
That is to conform oneself, to obey the laws of God, conform yourself to moral uprightness. And I said, is that correct? And this guy in the Eastern Orthodox Church, actually Oriental Orthodox, he said, yes, it's true.
That's correct. And I said, it's really Watchtower cult stuff. They make the mistake of thinking that their idea of God's beginning of a work in you means that you have to perfect of your own will and that you are the one who maintains your salvation.
But Paul says, I'm confident that he who began a good work in you will perfect it. He is the one who's perfecting it, not you. This is something that a lot of people make a mistake. So you got to think about this.
So God is working his will in us and perfecting us. And some are at different levels than others. I've been a Christian since I was 17 and I'm 65. And I've been defending the Christian faith since 1980.
That doesn't mean I have all the answers. But I'll tell you, God has changed me a great deal in those years. And there's a lot more to go. And this is what it means when God is working. You guys know what that is.
You want to be more loving and you are put in places where you've got to be more loving. Who does that? God. Be more patient. He teaches you how to be patient. One of the crucibles of personal improvement and sanctification itself is marriage and parenting.
And then it comes down to other areas of work and relationships and friendships. God is the one who's working because he says in Ephesians 111, God works all things after the counsel of his will. If he works all things after the counsel of his will, then that means that everything that he is doing in your life, in part, is to bring you to a perfected faith.
Now, we're never going to be perfected because, well, we're sinners. And it's never going to happen. But God is the one who's at work in you. This is important for Christians to understand. A lot of times they think God doesn't know what he's doing or they think things aren't going the way they want them to go.
And they don't realize that God is behind everything. He can be there directly or indirectly by his direct will or by his permissive will. He can bring things about that shape you and make you. So that's an issue that we have to understand.
And I can get into that quite a bit, but I'm not really going to because there's some other issues related to it. So another way that the Lord works in perfecting us is by convicting us of sin. Now, I like being convicted of sin.
I don't like being convicted of sin. I like being convicted of sin because it means God's alive and working and I'm feeling it. I don't like it because I don't like being convicted of sin because it's uncomfortable.
I got to make things right. And sometimes what he requires of us to make things right in the conviction and the perfectioning of our faith can be very difficult. Sometimes he wants us to do things and say things and confess things that we don't want to do.
But this is the thing. God, who began a good work in you, will perfect it, will work it, will complete it. And he does it through people, and he does it through circumstances, and he does it through the convicting of the Spirit within us.
John 16 .8, the Holy Spirit convicts the world of sin, righteousness, and judgment. We're in that world, and so therefore we get convicted of our sins as well. And if I were to ask you, you know, you've been Christians for a while, you've done something wrong, you had that conviction, and it's there.
I've had it, and I don't like it. In fact, I'm so familiar with it that when it begins, I do something wrong, I don't realize I've done something wrong, or then I realize, wait a minute, that was wrong.
I start feeling that conviction, I go take care of it right away because I don't like carrying the burden. I don't like having to deal with it. It's just, I'm going to lose. And so, the perfection of the work that God has done, this is the work of God that you believe.
The belief is in Jesus Christ, John 6 .28 -29. He wants us to believe and work for Christ and in Christ. And so, in that, we can rejoice. Now, it says, until the day of Christ Jesus. Now, the day of Christ Jesus is his return, the return of Christ Jesus.
When he comes back, he is going to render to every man according to his deeds. Now, the Christians are not going to be judged for damnation, but the unbelievers will, but both believers and unbelievers are going to be judged according to their works, for reward or loss of reward.
So, the Christians have to realize that God's given us certain abilities, and if we have hoarded our talents and our resources and not helped others, we're going to suffer a loss of reward in heaven. And if we have helped others and done what's necessary according to God's word, then we're going to have a greater reward in heaven.
But the increase or decrease of rewards based on our deeds has no bearing on whether or not we're saved. In false religious systems, it does. In Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Christianity, Baha 'i Islam, Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy.
This is what they teach, that they say, your salvation is dependent on part of what you do, and the reward of heaven, getting heaven, is by that. And, yeah, anyway. All right, so, Philippians 1, 6 is a good verse.
I recommend that you guys memorize it. Now, notice what's happening. Paul is praising God and he's thanking God. But this is interesting in the condition and the state that he's doing this. Look at verse 7.
For it is only right for me to feel this way about you, because I have you all in my heart, since both in my imprisonment and in the defense and the confirmation of the gospel, you are all partakers of grace with me.
Paul is in prison. Now, what people don't really understand is, if you go to verse 13, I'm going to skip ahead, so that my imprisonment in the cause of Christ has become well known throughout the whole Praetorian Guard and to everyone else.
So, back to verse 7, he's imprisoned. He's imprisoned with the Praetorian Guard. Who is the Praetorian Guard? The Praetorian Guard were the navy seals of the Roman Empire that guarded the palace, that guarded the emperor.
They were the people, you wanted it done, these were the experts of the experts. That's a Praetorian Guard. And what they would do in jails, different kinds of jails, is they would chain a person to another person.
So, a guard would have the prisoner chained to him. In Roman system of jurisprudence, if the guard was chained to somebody or was transporting him or whatever, and that person escaped, the guard took his place.
They were very motivated to not let their captives escape. They took their place. Now, you'll notice that when, I forget the exact reference, but when Paul was in the storm in the ship, and they were crashing on the ground, and the guards, oh, no, no, sorry.
This is in the earthquake, and the jails were open, and Paul says, no, don't kill yourselves. Because they, the way it was was, hey, the guards are saying, the jails all came open. They're all going to take off.
We're going to take their place. They're going to kill themselves instead. Paul said, no, don't do that, because it was part and parcel of what was the system there. He says, we're all still here. Now, could you imagine that?
All of a sudden, they're all still, what? What do you mean you're still here? You didn't escape? Well, Paul is imprisoned, and in the process with the Praetorian Guard, what they would do is chain themselves to the prisoner.
And then when it was time for the guard to switch, another guard would be chained. Now, could you imagine being chained to Paul the Apostle? What do you think Paul is going to do? He's going to witness.
And that's why it says in verse 13, we're jumping ahead, so that my imprisonment in the cause of Christ has become well-known throughout the whole Praetorian Guard and everyone else. Even in his imprisonment, he's sharing the gospel.
He has an opportunity to share it with people. Notice, now think about this. He is in jail, but the Praetorian Guard have access to high officials, because they are the guys who will guard the officials of the government.
Very interesting. The imprisonment that we would think that's bad is now being used by Paul to witness to the Praetorian Guard, who may very well then go to other people that they would guard, and those officials would say, I hear Paul's with you.
I've heard a lot about him. What do you like? This is what he says. You've got to realize that sometimes what we might consider to be evil, God meant it for good. Just like when Joseph was sold into slavery in Genesis 50 -20, you meant it for evil, God meant it for good.
We've got to be careful. If I get arrested because what I do is illegal, like preach the gospel and say homosexuality is not true, and things like that, I think it's a sin. Am I going to go to jail? If I do go to jail for that, I'm going to start teaching in jail.
I'll just consider it an opportunity to speak the word. That's what I would do. He says, for it is only right for me to feel this way about you, because I have you in my heart. Since both of my imprisonment and the defense and the confirmation of the gospel, you are all partakers of grace with me.
He considers his fellowship with the Philippian people to be so close. He says they're in his heart. He loves them. Shouldn't he be saying, woe is me, get me out of here? Look how bad off I am. He's rejoicing.
Whether in or out of prison, regardless of the circumstances, Paul knows how to do what he has to do before the Lord. We are all like that, partakers of the gospel of grace. Whatever situation and station you find yourself in, you should use whatever abilities you have for the glory of God, even if it's uncomfortable.
Verse 8, for God is my witness how I long for you all with the affection of Christ Jesus. And I pray this, that your love may abound still more and more in real knowledge and all discernment. The jails and the guards of those places were very, very bad.
Largely, they had no way of eating unless relatives came in and fed them. And sometimes if nobody would feed them and they're in a jail, they would starve to death, but not really. The guards would be allowed to bring food to them.
But did they have really big kitchens to give them all this great stuff? No. They would give them slop and they'd give them crap and old water. It was a bad place to be. Now, the praetorian guard, these were elites, so the situation probably was not nearly as bad as it would have been in other situations.
But nevertheless, his love for the Philippians is abounding more and more. And that's the thing. Love is other-centered, not self-centered. God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, John 3 .16.
Jesus says in John 15 .13,. Greater love has no man than this, but he lay his life down for his friend. And so he's other-centered. And in his imprisonment, he says,. And this I pray that your love may abound still more and more in real knowledge and all discernment.
Because he already in verse 8 says,. How I long for you all with the affection of Christ Jesus, which is a very loving thing, and he wants their love to grow as well. This is Christian maturity. In your situation, not that good.
You're praying for the benefit of others. That's hard to do. But that's the perfection of the good work that God is bringing you to. A lot of times what we want is for things or situations or peoples to change or be gone so that we can get what we want.
But what does God want? If he's going to perfect the faith of Christ in us, he's going to do it by working us through various situations and peoples in time. Paul here, what he's doing is demonstrating the very nature of love.
And incidentally, love is a perfect bond of unity. Colossians 3 .14 says,. In that unity that he has with them and they have with him, there's that bond and distance doesn't break it. All right. So here's something to think about.
Would you say that love is natural to the world? No. Because the world cannot know what true love is because the world doesn't know the true living God. The only way to know what true love is, is if the true God who is love reveals it to you.
If you say that you can be loving and you don't know God, you're not loving because you're not measuring love by what he is, but by an arbitrary subjective standard that you yourself think is right or wrong.
We often do this in our own homes, in our own lives. You're to love me the way I want you to love me. And what we're not doing is comparing our love to the standard of God, Jesus Christ, God in flesh, who humbled himself to the point of death, even death and a cross, Philippians 2.
We'll get into that at a time. And yet he was loving and sacrificial and kind and patient and considered others more important than themselves. We'll get into that, Philippians 2. This is what true love really is.
But we get so tied up in the mundane issues of life and the comfort of our life that we start judging others by how they're supposed to be when we ourselves are being judgmental and not being loving. If you go to 1 Corinthians 13, love doesn't remember sins, doesn't remember things wrong suffered.
It thinks better of something than somebody else. Now, I don't like that because I want to be selfish, because I want to be prideful, because I want to be stubborn. I do. But I also know I don't want to be those.
There's an internal war that goes on because the truth of who Christ is, as I follow Christ and pick up my cross daily and follow after him, as Luke 9 .23 talks about, that I'm supposed to sacrifice my desires for him.
And there are times when I don't want to do that, but I do. And we all have those times, particularly as parents. We get up in the middle of the night to change a diaper or to clean up barf or to do whatever we've got to do, but we do it because we're loving.
That's just a small example. But let the knowledge of forgiveness that we would have for others and being forgiven bring us to that place of confession. We should be confessing our sins, as Galatians 6 .2 says, one to another, but especially to God because it's against him that we have sinned.
And if we're going to confess our sins to God because he's working faith in us and the love of God that he's going to have in us, and we're going to confess our sins, then we're obligated then to live that confession of our sin.
A lot of times what we want to do is confess something and then hold on to it or confess something that we've done and then beat ourselves up over it, which is not good, or confess that we've done something wrong to somebody else and then expect them to react a certain way when we humble ourselves.
We're so selfish in so many ways that we don't understand that godly love is not the standard of the world, and we cannot learn what true love is by looking around us. We have to look beyond us at Jesus Christ.
That's what true love really is. Anyway, it says that your love may abound still more and more in real knowledge and all discernment. To have the love abound is not just, hey, I want it to go bigger. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
No, to have your love abound means to have the love be like Christ's love for you. These are not empty words. These are serious words. The love that Christ has for us, that's what he means. Bound in love, the love of Jesus.
How is he loving? He's patient and kind and gentle, long-suffering. Father, forgive them for they don't know what they do, even though they're killing him. And this is the love that we're to abound in.
And then go to verse 10, so that you may approve the things that are excellent in order to be sincere and blameless until the day of Christ Jesus or the day of Christ. Now, later in Philippians 4, some of the most famous verses in the Bible, besides John 3, 16, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, pure, good, or repute, let your mind dwell on these things.
It's a well-known section of Scripture. And Paul talks about this kind of stuff and the thing that we're to focus on. You cannot perfect your love without Christ being the object of your love. See, the thing about God is, the only way to know God is if he discloses himself to us.
The only way to know what right is, is if he discloses right. The only way to know what good is, is if he discloses good. You can't say, I know what good is, or I'm going to have an intuition of what good is, and I'm going to ask if God is that.
That's idolatry. The only way to know what good is, is to look to Christ. The only way to know what love is, is to look to Christ. Because he is the standard of all righteousness. And so, if we are going to approve the things that are excellent, in order to be sincere and blameless until the day of Christ Jesus, ultimately our goal is to be looking to Christ in and through all of these things.
So that we might approve those things that are excellent. What are those things that are excellent? The things that Christ did and emulated. That's the standard, that's how we know, and that's how we learn.
So what we're going to do is go through a few more verses here, then we'll quit, because there's a lot more later. All right. I hope you guys are enjoying it online. Over 40 people there, good. All right.
Verse 11. Having been filled with the fruit of righteousness, which comes through Jesus Christ to the glory and praise of God. Having been filled. Having been is a perfect participle, I believe it is.
Which means it's an action in the past that's in a continuation in the present. Particularly, having been filled. That's what it was, and that's what it is, with the fruit of righteousness, which comes through Jesus Christ.
Now, I didn't check the Greek on this, and I should have. But in Galatians 5 .22, it says, The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, gentleness, etc. And there's nine of these things listed.
So people will often say the fruits, but it's not. In Greek, it's karpos, the fruit, singular. The one fruit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness. Now, I don't know. I'm curious. No, I should have checked.
Having been filled with the fruit. Is it singular or plural? I think it's probably singular. Of righteousness, which comes through Jesus Christ to the glory and praise of God. I want you to know, brethren, that my circumstances have turned out for the greater progress of the gospel.
Notice what's going on here. He is in jail. He's imprisoned. He may be killed. The reason is because the Jews, you understand this, the Jews were in that sliver of land called Israel. The Roman Empire had soldiers all around and about the Mediterranean area.
If you were to take a ship, it was a risky thing to cross the Mediterranean because of sudden storms. A lot of times, it was expensive. And so they would take these long trips and they go around through Israel.
And because of the geography, Israel is very situated geographically and it's a very important area. Because there's desert and mountains, makes it very difficult to get through those. But Israel is pretty green.
It's like Southern California. You can go through it very nicely. And it's not too far from the coast. I've been to Israel. It's comfortable. It's nice. You can go through and you can walk through, take a horse through, mules, cart, you can go through.
That's why it's so stinking important for it to be there, for the Romans to be there because geographically, it's a very strategic location. So the Romans were there, but they allowed the Jews to live there.
So the Jews and the Romans had a deal that they worked out. The Romans didn't want trouble out there, way out in the middle of Israel. They didn't want trouble. So they allowed puppets to be in rule and they were basically Jews and they allowed the Jews to have their little rules.
And the Jews did not want to rock the boat with Rome because Rome could very well come in and kill them all, which they did in the siege of Jerusalem in 70 AD. Because Rome had sent people to do this.
The Jews knew this. So when Paul is preaching and teaching in Israel, he's messing up things. But now at the Areopagus in Athens, in Greece, and he's preaching, the Jews are there too, but also the Greeks and the Romans are in control.
Now more trouble because, hey, there's all these gods and the money that was around selling gods and the items of gods and the sacrifice of gods. And Paul comes in and goes, hey, all of it's wrong. That is an economy problem.
It can cause riots, it can cause problems. And the Romans did not like that kind of stuff. They would often take care of people. Okay, we're just done with you. Gone, executed, you were done. Paul is risking his life by preaching.
In that situation, he's risking his life by preaching. Now, if we were to go out to the Boissy Mall and preach, we're not risking our lives, normally speaking. If we were to go to England, what's called Speaker's Corner, and preach, there's a lot of Muslims out there, but you're not risking your life because it's understood.
There's guards around, usually I've heard. You go to Iran or Iraq and you start preaching the gospel, now you're risking your life. They can kill you. I think it was either Egypt or Iran, because there are Christians in Iran.
A Christian was thirsty, he was walking, and he went to a hose at a local house, just turned on the hose and got a drink of water. He was just very thirsty. The Muslims found out that a Christian did it, they killed him for it.
They killed him for getting a drink of water. That's how it is now. It wasn't much different in a lot of situations back then. Here's Paul in the situation where his life is in danger. I've heard some commentaries, if I remember correctly, that he was executed after this.
So, having been filled with the fruit of righteousness, which comes through Jesus Christ, the glory and praise of God, and he says to the Philippians, I love you guys, and I'm just so delighted about who you are and where you are, and yet the executioner's sword is hanging over his head, potentially.
It's a serious thing. So where is his hope? It's in Christ, not in his physical safety. And he's looking to Christ Jesus, and he wants the Philippians to not weep over him, but to pray for him, as he participates in the gospel with them, as they pray for him, where he is.
This is what's going on in this whole situation. This is why it's so important. And that's why he goes on, he says in verse 12, I want you to know, brethren, that my circumstances have turned out for the greater progress of the gospel.
One of the things that happened by his imprisonment is the letter of the Philippians. The letter of the Philippians is warm and doctrinal. It's beautiful. Would he have written it if he wasn't in jail?
Can't say yes, can't say no, but we know that in that circumstance, he wrote it. He could write, and he wrote this to the Philippians. And apparently, some other imprisonment situations, he wrote other letters.
So now he's forced by God, so to speak, to sit and do, so to speak, nothing in jail. And then he writes letters that thousands upon thousands and thousands and thousands of people for centuries benefit from.
We can't look so short-sightedly. We have to look long-term. And verse 13 says, so that my imprisonment in the cause of Christ has become well-known throughout the whole Praetorian Guard and everyone else.
So they know who he is. They've heard rumors about his miraculous works, who this Jesus person is. Word got around all over the Mediterranean area. He represents Jesus. You know that people are coming to see him.
You know that the guards are going to, you know, let me guard him. You know that officials are going to come in from the house, from the palace area, the guard area, are going to come in to meet Paul.
Undoubtedly, it's because it was happening. And I'll read this last verse. We'll stop there. And that most of the brethren trusting in the Lord because of my imprisonment have far more courage to speak the word of God without fear.
That's verse 14. How many people would have less fear to preach the gospel if they keep their minds on what Paul went through and say, you know, what he went through, what he was risking? I should have that same attitude.
You can the more other-focused you are. And that's difficult. That's part of the perfecting of the faith, Philippians 1 .6. He says that most of all, brothers, brethren, trusting in the Lord because of my imprisonment, they have their hearts are hurting with Paul in his imprisonment, have far more courage to speak the word of God without fear.
I don't know exactly why that would work that way, that he's in jail and they have more power, more encouragement to do so. There's something about the persecution of the believers that brings more people to witness about Christ.
When we're comfortable, we want our status to remain comfortable. We don't want to rock the boat. But when the boat's already rocking, I might as well get involved. I might as well say it because it's going to happen anyway.
I think that's part of what persecution is. That with the preaching of the gospel, the power of God is salvation, Romans 1 .16. This is why I believe that one of the things I suspect is the case that the gospel increases through persecution because people realize they don't have the comforts anymore.
They're going to then speak out because they're relying on Christ. And that's what they're doing. That's what they want to do. And so they do. So the brethren are believers and so that boldly seeking Paul as well and most probably getting converts.
He probably was getting converts in his prison and he's writing to them. Probably had other letters that he wrote to them like a note or Timothy would have taken and gone, take a few days by journey and horse, whatever it would have been to get to the Philippians and say, hey.
Now, just so you know, it wouldn't be just Philippians back. It would be a circuit that went through. And this is often the case that he would go through a journey because you're going to make it be effective.
And so Timothy was probably giving something here, there and be gone months at a time. I think about that. Paul would send Timothy out, go do what I can't do. I'll see you in two or three months. What's going to happen to him during that time?
Got to trust God. And Paul is praising God, trusting in God. And Timothy comes back and reports and he's full of joy. And this is a situation that Paul is in and the book of Philippians came out of it.
And I think it's great. I think it's awesome. So we'll stop there at 14. So if any of you guys have any questions, you can put, I can see the text of the questions if you want to do it. If you guys got here and have any questions.
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The green kid. How's the little one doing? All right. So someone here asked a question. I'm going to tackle it. You ready? Do we have free will if God predestines everything, right? So you don't have any free will, right?
Okay. So let me ask you. If something refutes itself, should you believe it? If something refutes itself, should you believe it? So here's a statement that refutes itself. There's no such thing as absolute truth.
That's an absolute truth statement. It refutes itself. Therefore, it's not to be believed, right? So a statement or a position that refutes itself should be abandoned, right? Right. That's right. Now.
All right. So if we have no free will. And that means that all of our thoughts are not free. If our thoughts are not free, then the questions we have are not our questions. They're just whatever. And if they're just whatever, they have no meaning because they're not free will questions.
They're not really anything. Something's making you say them. But if something's making you say them, you can't trust that your thinking is true. If you don't have free will to be able to think, you can't trust that your questioning is true.
You can't trust that your reasoning is true. You don't have the free will to be able to understand something or ask the right questions or go through. You say it's all predetermined that we don't have any free will.
Then it wasn't your free will to ask the question. If it's not your free will to ask the question, it's not your question. Something else asked the question. But the question that you're saying is about yourself.
But that means you can't trust your own question. So if you can't trust your own question about questioning about free will, then it refutes itself. So you ought to not believe the idea that you have no free will and can't make choices or questions.
Did you get that? My wife does. He rolls her eyes a lot. Did you get that? Pretty much? Go through it again if you want. Now, what I can do at this point is do what I say to you, what I do with the atheists when I get into this place.
Go ahead. I'll give you the retort that I usually say. Ah.
I have things to say. You have things to say? I'll let you build the premise.
Well, whatever you say, I'll just come back and say your brain made you say that. Because if you don't have any freedom, then it's chemical reaction necessity.
Here's the question. Okay, here's the question. The question is, and we went down the rabbit hole to free will. Who's we? The question. Okay. The question that defines you as your religion is God omniscient.
Okay, why is that the proper question? That is the question. It's a question. Is it the right question?
I think it's the right question to start with.
But if you don't have free will, how do you know it's the right question?
Assuming I have a brain and I can form a question.
That is the question that I can form. But did you form it or did somebody cause you to form it so it's not your own? But if you don't have the freedom to make the choice to ask it, you're not really asking it yourself.
What's the question? The Bible says he is. Okay. Yeah. And why is it put religion? What do you mean by religion? Christianity. How does free will get excluded if God knows everything? Could he know what?
Could he know? Yeah. Can he know what free will choices you're going to make? Then they're free will. Then you said they're free will. No, I said, does he know your free will choices? You said yes. So you admitted.
It's an illusion of free choice. So then the questions you're so the questions you're asking is just an illusion. So then you don't know anything's true. Right. Because if it's all an illusion, if it's all here, if it's all an illusion, you can't know anything's true.
Right. But you can't know anything's true. So you can't know that you can't know anything's true. Refute itself. So the premise that you give is ultimately self-refuting and you should not believe it.
I've asked you this question. Go ahead.
Do I have a minute? I said. I think it hurt Nick's brain. Before someone's born, I've asked this question. Does God know if they're going to go to heaven or hell? Yeah. You said yes. So during the time frame that they lived.
Yeah. They made either they made bad choices or God decided that they were going to go there. Right.
I decided outside before the foundation of the world would be saved. No, they didn't have a choice for if they were elect or not. OK, explain. Election is God's choice. So the Bible teaches that Ephesians one for he the father chose us the elect in him.
Jesus before the foundation of the world that would be holy and blameless. Second Thessalonians 2 13 says he chose us. Exactly. He says he chose us from the beginning. Completely agree. He says he chose us from the beginning for salvation.
So God chooses us for salvation. It's his work.
So it was a problem. So where is the choice of that person's life from going from birth? They make all kinds of choices.
They make choices. But what does it matter? Does it matter for the salvation? They're not saved by their choices, by their works. Right.
So they go through life. Yeah. And you're admitting. Really, it's regardless. They're going to where they're going to go. The outcome is determined. Yep. Exactly. So what's the problem? There is no one.
There's no problem. I'm just saying that most people don't think that way.
Lots of the scriptures teach that God is predestined. Then you go to Romans 9 9 through 23. For example, Ephesians 1 4 through 11.
But most people think it's the choices I make will get me to heaven or I have to accept it.
But they really do freely make a choice to believe in Jesus. Both can be true. Yes. And I can show you how. Both can be true. All right. I use an illustration of the light bulb. OK. It's called there's called logical priority and temporal priority.
So which comes first? Chicken or the egg? Which comes first? Regeneration or belief? We have to be regenerated being born again. We have to believe. Now, do we freely believe? Yes, we freely do. How can that be if God grants that we believe?
Notice what it says in Philippians 1 29. He grants that we believe we are actually doing the believing. The question that most people ask is, well, you have to be a believer first before you can become a regenerate and saved.
But that's the case. I'll just use five seconds. And that would mean, then, just as an example, that we have someone who believes for five seconds before he's regenerated. Not that it is five seconds, but let's just use that in temporal priority.
Well, and that would mean that there was a believer who's not a Christian, who's not regenerate for five seconds. That doesn't make any sense. So let's reverse it. Let's say there's a regenerate person for five seconds.
And then later, after five seconds, he comes becomes a believer. Well, then that would mean we have a regenerate person who's not a believer for a period of time. And there's logical problems with that.
That's called logical, I mean, temporal priority. Logical priority, light bulb. When I flip the switch, electricity is in that light and the light is instantly there because of electricity. Whenever the electricity is there, the light is there, but they're simultaneous.
Okay. Electricity is the cause of the light. The light is not the cause of the electricity, but they're simultaneous. So electricity is said to be logically prior. They're simultaneous, but one must be there in order for thing to be there.
So it's logical priority. Regeneration must be there in order for us to believe the logical priority of regeneration. When we regenerate, we also believe and we freely choose to believe. That's the answer.
It's a solution.
It's taken me, I'm 51 years old and 51 years to come to this conclusion that, Matt, you make a lot of sense. I do make a lot of sense. I've talked to Don about it, I've talked to other people. It's like, this is the only way.
It is. Because it's, it's, it's... I think now I... He's going to debate you on this. Who?
That guy. Yeah. He's going to come at him. Anyway, so he... He has to go according to... He has to be polite.
He has to be polite. He wants 20 minutes to start, 20 minutes rebuttal, and then go from there. Oh, he's ready. He's cocky loaded. Anyway... To argue about what?
We're going to tell him. You're going to say he's an amateur. Well, I've debated it hundreds and hundreds of times over 30 years. I'm not saying I always win. I'm a greater thing. But I'm just saying, I know what their arguments are.
There's no new arguments that I've heard in years and years and years. And they don't make sense because they're not biblically based. They're emotionally based. And they have incorrect understanding.
Because you guys are going to come to a stalemate.
Is that... How many of your arguments come to a stalemate? Like, I look at this scripture this way. I look at this scripture this way.
Well, it depends on what the topic is. But this is a very serious topic. But nevertheless, back to the free will thing. Free will is the ability to make choices that are not forced. They're free according to what your nature is.
I want to say it that way because God has free will. God has free will. No one forces him to do anything. He's holy, but he cannot sin. He's not free to sin. People sometimes make the mistake of thinking free will means you have to be able to do both.
Sin and not sin. To be able to do good and not be able to do good. That's what free will is. That's humanism. It's based on man's ability. So what you're saying is...
He is constricted by what he can do. You can only... He can't lie to you. Right. Titus 1 .2. So he doesn't have the ability to lie. Right. So he doesn't have that will to lie. Yeah. He's free.
Because someone's free only insofar as their nature exists. He's not going to pull a tricky on us. He can't. So free will is the ability to make a choice. That's not...
He doesn't have the same choices as humans.
Okay. Free will is the ability to make choices that are not forced but are consistent with your nature. That has God as a standard, not as man. So an unbeliever is free. He's free. He can choose whatever he wants.
He will continue to choose to rebel against God. No one's forcing him to. So he's at freedom. God knows all the free will choices he's going to make. It gets a little more complicated. You get into ordination, causation, efficient, direct causation, things like that.
But that's another thing. I have to lay it out step by step. But the thing is that God's not surprised by anything. He works all things after the counsel of his will, Ephesians 1 .11. The free will choices people have are worked after the counsel of God's will.
Both are true. So what happens is from that position that you're talking about, that you can't be free if God knows you can be free, then open theism rises. Open theism is a teaching that the future is open.
The reason the future is open, God can't know your choices because you can't. If you're going to make a choice to put on a red shirt or a green shirt on a particular day, and he knows what you're going to do, you're not free to do anything different.
And they get it wrong. No, you freely choose. And there's a lot of different ways to show you things. I can force you, for example, freely, without violating your free will, I can force you to do something.
Do you think that's possible? Sure. I could make you flinch. By getting close, putting my hand in front of you, you know, do that and you'd flinch. I didn't violate your free will. You freely chose to do it.
It's a simple illustration. But the idea is that God can bring us freely to do what he wants us to do. Just like I can take my daughter, it was a little girl and say, a half hour before her favorite show and say, I want her to ask me to be gracious to her.
Not those exact words, but I want her to do that. Because I'm going to say to her, please clean up your room before you watch that show. I know she can't do it. It's an eight day project. You know, little kids are.
And she's going to say, but dad, I can't. I go, well, it needs to be done. And what I'm looking for her to say is, but dad, can I wait or can I do this? I'm going to be gracious and say, yeah, okay. Tell you what, let's watch it together and maybe I'll help you for a little while afterwards.
And I was able by the circumstances to get her to do what I wanted her to do without violating her free will. How much more is God capable of bringing us to do what he desires us to do?
One of my pet peeves with religion, Matt, to everyone's listening is there's this comparison. It's like, I'm a parent and I know what my son or daughter is going to do. But you're not a mission. That's true.
I thought I was. So that analogy is thrown out the window.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. All analogies, all analogies fall apart. But the analogy is to show you that there is a way to bring somebody to do something without violating their free will. Do something that you want them to do.
Like I can make you flinch, you know, or I can go, what the heck is that? And you look over there. And so I got you to do what I wanted you to do. God can do that because he has all means at his disposal.
A lot of Christians don't like this. Because they don't like the idea of God being sovereign. They want the sovereignty themselves. The biggest battle most Christians have is with themselves and God. They're Christians, they submit to God, but the battle is in submitting to God and his sovereignty in all things.
Realizing how great he is. Most Christians don't realize it. Not that I realize it and I can tell you all about it. That's not what I'm saying. It's just that a lot of Christians, they have this low idea of God.
He's the blonde-haired, blue-eyed Caucasian surfer dude dressed in a woman's nightgown asking for permission to come into your heart. That's not who he is. He is the one in control. And yet you're free at the same time.
Okay, let me teach you something. Okay, you ready? So direct, proximate, efficient. Okay? Direct causation. God says, let there be light. His will, his action, his doing. Light exists. God created the heavens and the earth.
His will. He created the garden. His will. By his action. Now the fall is going to occur. So by God's direct action, he put the garden there and the planets and the solar system everything. Okay. Direct creative act of God.
He put Adam and Eve in there made in his image. I could talk about what that means. It's called the communicable attributes. But they're in God's image. That means they have the ability to make choices.
Otherwise they're not in his image. Proximate is that God allows them to be in the garden and he allows Satan to come in the garden. God is not forcing them to do anything. He just simply allows it. He put the play together.
Yes, he does. Forgot for man to fail. No. Yes. One thing at a time. Let me teach one thing at a time. So the proximate cause is that the situation is arranged by God's permission, his will. But he does not force Adam to take the fruit.
That is done of his own free will choice. Therefore he is what's called the efficient cause of his actions. God is the direct and proximate but not the efficient cause of his actions. In theological circles when we discuss this we discuss the issue of God's causation.
How can he cause someone to do something and not be the moral one responsible? And this is how. By him not being the efficient cause the actual free will choice of rebellion is not by God but by Adam.
Furthermore I'm of the opinion that the only one who cannot sin is God. All sentient beings will sin. This is why the angels are elect chosen not to fall. No, he didn't release them. No, he didn't release them.
He allowed them to come in. Let me ask you. Why would God do that? Oh, the illusion of choice. So then he made Adam eat the fruit. Was Adam forced to do it?
Was he forced to eat the fruit? He was put in a situation where he was going to do it. Before it ever happened.
God knew he was going to do it. To create the illusion of choice. The question is, did he force Adam to choose? The answer is no. Did Adam do it of his own free will? Yes. Therefore it's not God's fault.
Those are ifs. Well, these are the things that I'll just tell you that theologians have wrestled with and dealt with for centuries. This is the question. And this is the answer. So it's unknowable.
There's the answer. You have an answer. Does it make sense? In 1 Samuel 24... So did he release the beast? No. So was there a time... What does it mean, release the beast? I think I'm going to trademark it.
I already know about it. What does it mean? So here's the timeline, right? Before heaven and earth. Before God was created, he created angels, right? No. Oops.
He created angels and one of them was Lucifer. And he allowed them to rebel against him and they became fallen angels.
Of their own free will. And he created... He had a programming word. He had bug. No bug. There's no mistakes with God. There has to be. Where does evil come from? Here's the problem.
There's a creator. Okay. And then the creation is... Here's a question I'm going to ask you. I'm going to ask you something. Okay. Where do you get your logic from by which you hold God accountable for his actions?
These are basic things to talk about. So these are basic things to talk about. People have answers for them. I've given you answers. Now the thing is, you don't like the answers. You're judging God. You're saying he's the one who's responsible.
So the question is, you are assuming of your own thinking and your own will that there's a standard of righteousness that you know that God himself must adhere to. You're saying God should not have done this.
And who are you to say what God should and should not do? You don't understand. You're not hearing what I'm saying. I do this with atheists a lot. Atheists will say to me, I heard something. No? What was that?
Oh, okay. So I'll say to atheists, atheists will say to me, your God kills babies. He kills all kinds of stuff. He's evil. And I'll say, okay. What's your point? Well, he's bad. You're an atheist, right?
Yeah. Okay. So what standard of bad do you have by which you can judge somebody else? Tell me what it is. Okay. Can you hear what I'm saying? See, what standard have you got to make a judgment? It's based on the story.
Okay. It's based on the story of God. No, we're talking external. You're talking about internal. What do you have that you can judge God by? Where's the universal standard of righteousness? I have none.
So they have none. You have none. Okay. So now here's a problem. Now they'll say to me, let's go and we'll do an internal examination because they're screwed. So the internal examination is that God does what he desires, but you think it's wrong, which means that you're putting an external standard, which you've already said doesn't work.
You're injecting it internally. And then you're saying, this is why God is wrong. You're still using the external standard. If you say I'm using the internal standard by his own standard, I'll say, show me where God says you can't do that.
But I'm not saying he's wrong. I'm not saying I'm saying he decided. Are you complaining? Okay. I'm saying this is the situation and God designed it in God. Yeah. I'm not judging it. Yeah. Are you submitting to it?
Are you submitting? Yes. Good. So are you, are you, but also if you want to look at it and you say, could God have created a world without Satan and fallen angels? Yeah. There's a sense in yes. That's another discussion,.
Believe it or not. There's a sense in which the answer is yes. There's a sense in which the answer is no. Yes. He has the capacity to do different things, but since he does everything best, not second best, then it's almost like saying, well, he could only have done it that way because that's what's best.
And then we, that's, that's a very low way of saying it. But these are discussions worth having. If God's omniscient, omnipotent, and omnisapient, all wisdom, then it means that wherever he's created is the best.
And there's a reason for it. So. Those are all true. They can both be true. Actually, if you want to release the beast, do you want to talk about that? Yeah. Ben, read second Thessalonians two and revelation, where God actually sends a diluting influence on people.
And in revelation, where the antichrist, the false prophet, and the beast are actually released in order to do what God wants them to do. So you're in an interesting way, you're kind of stumbling ahead into better theology without understanding the things that go along with it.
No, I'm just saying that you're getting ahead and you get it a lot of it because you see what it says, but you're not accepting a lot of what it says. You're having struggles with it. And this is one of the things that people go through, like Dave here had some issues.
And then finally, when you submit, you go, yeah. And you start, once you relax and you go, okay, so he does this, but there's more to it because he's loving. So wait a minute. Why would he lovingly allow Satan to come in?
Did he? Why would he choose to allow him to come in? That's a question. We can't just say, because he wanted to trick people. Show me the scripture. Because what people will do is complain and say, this is why he did it.
Well, show me that in the scriptures, because God is self-revealed. If we want to know his reasons, we've got to go to his word. And if you don't go to his word, it's nothing more than conjecture and guessing.
And it doesn't really mean anything. So you have to go to his word, why he chose to do it. Now, it does say he created us for his glory, Isaiah 43, seven. And it also says he works all things after the council of his will, Ephesians 1, 11, and he causes all things were to get up for glory for those who are called according to his purpose, Romans 8, 28, which means even the fall of Satan and the fall of Adam and Eve are for his greater glory, which I can get into some possibilities of that.
Todd Merkel and God only works good works in his elected children always. Cause he, God can't do anything bad. Uh, I still can't understand why God chose me, Laura. Yeah, I can't either. Oh, you mean about yourself?
Yeah, I know, Laura, that's what I say to a friend of mine, Nathan, I'll go, man, why did God choose you? Cause I know, I don't know why. It's just a, he chose us out of the kind intention of his will.
And he actually says why he chose us. Romans 9, 22, and 23. But you have to relinquish to God, what belongs to God. Let him do what needs to be done in the sense of letting in your own mind and heart.
And you'll do a lot better. Good. And you guys have any questions? Laura said, brat. Laura knows I love her. Laura and I've had lunch together. It was nice meeting Laura and her hubby and getting the privilege of preaching at her church.
I'm thinking about coming down to Salt Lake and see Bill McKeever, maybe go down to Provo too. Please answer Noel's question. How do you know if you are one of the elect? Easy. These things are written so you may know you have eternal life.
Life. First John 5, 13. The unbeliever does not accept the things of God for their foolishness to him. He cannot know them. First Corinthians 2, 14. One of those things of God, the Trinity, the deity of Christ, hypostatic union, justification by faith alone in Christ alone is physical resurrection that he died for our sins.
These are the spiritual things that we trust in. Furthermore, Paul said that in Philippians 1, 29, that he grants that we believe. And in John 6, 29, Jesus says, this is the work of God that you believe on him whom he has sent.
So the issue is that if it comes from God that we're believing in Jesus, we're believing in Jesus. We're believing in what he did. We're trusting in what he did because the faith that comes from God is always sufficient to justify us.
So we know we're one of the elect if we believe these things and we trust in these things because that's what the believers do. And that's how you know. Okay. Wow. Look at that one. I got in a conversation with my boss and a supervisor tonight about Jesus being perfect.
No sin, even shared the scripture and all they said was it wasn't true and started talking about religion. Is there anything else I could have helped them? They said, it's not true, right? They said back the same, most people say Bible written by man, blah, blah, Okay.
So they said, it's not true. I would just say, how do you know that? You made a statement. I know it's not true. Well, because it can't be true. It's your opinion. So you're judging this by your opinion without having any facts.
That's what you do with them. And they get mad and they walk away. Okay, Matt, please answer Noel's question. How do you know if you're one of the elect? I did. She is really questioning this. I already did.
Uh, okay. I know it takes time for it to go through the system. Uh, hopefully you heard it. What if God, although willing to demonstrate his wrath, Matt, you know, Romans nine 22, and it says, uh, demonstrate his wrath, make his pet patients known, endured with my patients, vessels of wrath, prepare for destruction.
And he did. So that he might bring glory upon the glory, upon the vessels of wrath created for mercy. Matt, the man, if Feek, the man, if Feek, what does benefit? Oh, man, if a cot, it's M a N a F I Q.
And agnostics, uh, Mark Antonio, no terrapin, had questions about Catholics. Oh, play. Okay. Good. Matt, where have you been for so long? Missed you, man. Devin, uh, a little bit overworked, burned out holidays, got a lot going on and I'm feeling better.
Are you made? Manafic. I don't know what Manafic means. M a N a F I Q. I use the restroom too. So I'm gonna use the restroom. See if you can explain that. We'll come back. We'll do some Q and a. All right.
Oh, well,.
Did you have questions to date? Were you guys talking about before? Yeah. I can't remember. I was looking at some notes. I had a question for him. I couldn't, I couldn't make sense of my question from like three weeks ago.
Oh, I don't know. Unless the babes. Yeah. Okay. It's good. Oh,.
Let's get ready. All right. Okay. What was your question? Let's see, Matt. Can you know, he's not one of the elected and one? He's not one of the elected. I think so. Bill. Uh, if someone, I don't know.
That's a good question though. Can they know to not one of the elected? That's a good question. I'm not sure how to answer that because what if you commit blasphemy, the Holy spirit, but then that means you believe in God, which kind of brings up a, yeah, it'd be a tough one to answer.
I'm trying to. Right. And so that's a toughie. Yeah. That makes sense. All right. Let's see. Um, he was saying, Could anyone who has never been exposed to the word of God be saved? Yes. What about a baby in a womb who dies?
It could anyone. Yes. Matt managing in Arabic means hypocrite. I looked it up, but that wasn't what the word was. So I don't know. It's sort of me thinks we have a troll. Okay. We have trolls. Um, we can get rid of them.
I can, you know, if he thinks that troll Laura, Laura's paying attention, they get a troll, just get rid of them. Laura Menifee is a person who in public and in community shows that he's a Muslim, but rejects Islam or propagate against it, either in the heart or among the enemies of Islam.
Ooh, that's interesting. A moon, not fake, not Matt. Maga fake is. Okay. Well, I'm certainly not a Muslim. Oh, so it says, man, a fake. Okay. Jonathan Harkey, the Bible alone has truth. That's not necessarily true because you're going to have a math book.
They're going to have truth in it. Two plus two is four. Unless your coworker accepted this as truth, they have no foundation. That's ultimately true. Hey, Matt, Dylan, he says, we can't be absolutely certain about anything, which is self-refuting.
Uh, yeah, of course you can't be. Yeah. I think I've talked about that. Um, you're in the wrong channel for me to delete him. Who should I delete? If you, Laura, if you say delete somebody, I'll just do it right now.
Just let me know. We're going to add something.
I have a question. So, you know, the, the elect, how should we treat other people that are the electors versus how people are not aligned?
We treat them all the same with love, patience, kindness. Now we're going to special privileges for the people who are believers, because the world will know that you're my disciples with a love you have for one another.
And he's talking to the believers.
Yep. And so we don't know who the non-elect are. So we should assume that they are,.
They're not showing signs. I would say my wife is certainly elect. She certainly has shown the signs of regeneration. I mean, you know, I'd say Dave here, probably close. I'm about 92%. That's pretty high.
I don't know. I was wondering. So this off, it's a common question. People say, you can't know if you're elect because you might give up your faith. You really can't know. Well, then why is the Bible so you can know you have eternal life because of our faith in Christ.
That's something that comes from God. God doesn't take it back. You and I might have a little experience.
When I met you, I'm like, I'm a straight even. Yeah, you did. I can't do business with you because you're either. Yep. We, we, now we're talking. Well, we talked about, you know, you and I do it a little bit of something together.
Financial. I go, okay. Up to that.
Yeah. Cause you know, pagan sleep, heathen slime dog. And I call him HSD, the heathen slime dog, you know, but, uh, so when you met me, was I elected? I don't know. I don't know that kind of stuff. If you're truly a Christian and you were elect.
I thought of myself as a complete atheist. I don't need God when I have gravity. I was as far as you can get. I know. When I met you, that's right. I'm like, you are a prideful atheist. Right. Yeah. Now you're not.
Now you're confessing Christ, right? Yes, sir. Yes, I am by God's mercy. It's all we can say. I tell people, I don't. That's why you can't speak. I'm a perfect example. I went from straight, even pagan.
Right.
That's right. Well, you see, I'm not in production. I'm in sales. Explain. I tell people about the gospel. God's one is in production. He's one that makes people Christians. I'm in production. I mean, I'm in sales, not production.
That's all. No problem. Okay, let's see. How come I have doubt about my salvation? Because you're probably the Christians who were saved are the ones who doubt because it's something that's kind of natural.
And generally, if someone thinks that they keep their salvation by being good, that's why they would have doubt. If, however, you're thinking you should be better than you are. It often causes people to have doubt because they're thinking I should be better than what I am, which is a sign of being regenerate.
I want to be saved. And sure I am. I have doubts about, well, you know what? To be honest, Chuckie, so do I. Sometimes it's hard. I have a lot of depression because of abuse. Ah, Chuckie, I'd recommend is you get a counselor and go see somebody and talk.
And I'm not dismissing you. I'm just saying it's good to talk to people who are trained and know that you can talk to and work through some things. Trust me on this. Okay. I was never abused like that.
You know, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick. And so, all right. How has one saved if he or she has never heard of Christ through what means? They're always saved through Christ. Can an infant be saved? Can a baby be saved?
They die. Yeah, they can be. So. Why do people grind on these questions that aren't important?
They are important because they wonder people, they want to know, but people have, I've been answering questions for decades. People have different understandings, different levels, different that they have questions.
They want to know. That's okay. I'm not being. No, it's okay. It's all right. Chuckie, we will keep you in prayer. Good. Melissa says, thanks for entering, man. You're welcome, Chuckie. Seriously, Chuckie.
I'm not saying there's somebody dismissive, but it's just good. Sometimes when people have had trauma, when they're younger to talk it through, let me give you an example. I moved 26 times before I was 12 and went to 12 different elementary schools.
And my last name was slick. And I got beat up and chased. I didn't stop having dreams of being murdered. I was 35 years old. Okay. Till I was 35. That's when I stopped having dreams of being murdered.
I remember the last dream, what it was. And I had seen someone too. And I talked to them for a long time about things and through things to process stuff. It's just what we do sometimes, you know, and my wife, as an example, sometimes I have something to work through or think through.
I'll talk to her about something. And she knows that I'm just processing it. There's something cathartic about just processing things. Usually when I talk to her about stuff, she just stares at me. It's a flat line because I'm talking about something esoteric.
And she probably was returning the favor because one time. She told me about a dress she was interested in at some store. And I did this for a full minute. Nothing for a full minute. And then she said, are you listening to me?
And I went. What happened? You were talking and then I went blank, you know, arm hit.
Anyway. Who's in charge of your wardrobe budget? We are me. I buy stuff for myself. She does.
This is what I, this is what I wear around the house. Yeah, I wear a, I wear sweats around all the time. And there's a reason though. You have to reason it. Because I autistic. I've asked burgers. I'm hypersensitive to touch.
And I need clothing. That's extremely soft. And so jeans are uncomfortable for me. They rub. But I can wear them. But, and so I have to wash clothes several times to make sure that they can, like, I had a shirt, a new shirt, which I washed and I had to take it off because it's got the little labels in the back.
I can't take it. That's why. So it's gotta be soft. A hundred percent cotton. What's that? Yeah. I used to have those. I, yeah, I wore them out until they fell off. All right. Let's see what else. Somebody said, Matt, instead of being called a Calvinist, I like to think myself as believing in the doctrines of grace.
Yeah, I do too. I, I also say, yes, I'm, I hold to reform theology or the five solas or the doctrines of grace or biblical theology, or I believe in what Jesus taught. Different ways of saying that. My phone definitely will keep me awake.
I turn everything off and listen to white noise to go to sleep. Yeah, I have ringing in my ear. So I always have noise. My Matt, you've helped me a lot with my doubts. I always turn to calm for answers for years.
That's because you're so smart. I mean, that's a, that's a gimme. Good economy. Smart. There's a half a smile kind of creeping up there. Okay. And, uh, men of feet. Oh, that's what reformed. I like the world won't fall.
Okay. Well, anyway, that's about it.
Unless anybody's got any more questions, we're going to wrap up the formal part of it. Yeah. What's that? You can wrap up the formal piece. Yeah, we can wrap it up. The formal piece. Help you find the five.
What are the five solos? So the feed dates, uh, faith alone, uh, scripture alone, Christ alone, grace alone. What's the fifth one? Scripture, faith, grace, faith alone, grace alone,.
Scripture alone, grace alone. I did. Okay. Faith, grace, great faith alone, grace alone, Christ alone, scripture alone. Oh, man, I hate it when I draw a blank. So the fetus, so the gratia, so the scriptura, uh, when a fee has nothing to do with Islam.
Okay. So to tell you guys who are listening, I'm on, um, I'm on, um, clubhouse answering questions and on discord answering questions. You guys ever want to get in when you think is an honor, honorary word.
Okay. Didn't mean to pit you on the spot. Okay. Love this. Thank you, Matt and everyone here. This has really been helpful. Uh, goodnight, all grace one in JC. Amen. I think that's a good segue to quit.
So I'm going to hit pause or hit done on this. And, uh, by God's grace next week, we'll be continuing on in Philippians one. All right. So God bless everybody. We'll see. Yeah.