Matt Slick Q&A after N.A.R. Discussion

And then not get it. It's very old. Okay. We're starting a prayer. We're starting this all-important prayer. Yes. I'll break in. We'll do Q &A. Okay, class, you ready? You have to get some of the Apostles and Prophets.

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We ask this in Jesus, your precious name. Amen. So, we'll just sit here. Got a question? Got a comment? Oh, now you're quiet. Now you guys have been talking and everything. If you have a question, come up closer to the mic so they can at least hear what's your question.

Bill Johnson, Grace as Substance, and the Meaning of John 1

All right, so... When you were quoting Bill Johnson's stuff, there was a quote where the last phrase was something about the importation of grace. What do you mean by the importation of grace?

Somewhere over there. It sounds like you're talking about grace as a substance. Yeah, it sounds like he's talking about grace as a substance. You know, I don't know where that was because I read so many things.

Was it towards the end you said? Yeah. I'll give you these notes. Find it. You'll see the numbers. I don't know where it is. I'll sit here for like five minutes. It did sound really got to me.

But, I think he's treating it as a substance. I found some of his stuff online and he's basically saying that grace is... It's not the emergent favor of God. It's the power of God. And so every time he sees the grace of God in the New Testament, he replaces it with power.

What do you think about all of this? Well, that's a misunderstanding of what grace is. But grace is often associated with power. So I'll be doing a word study on that and some other things. But I've come across that before and there are versions that suggest that.

Yeah, because what he would read a verse like there came Jesus and he was full of grace and truth. Yeah, that's the first John 1 verse. Yeah. And he would.

Immediately say, see, it could not be the favor of God because how could.

Jesus have every favor.

With God? Because he was not based on the law. Galatians 4 .4. He wasn't a statue. That's one thing I'll be studying.

Pastoral Qualifications, Apostolic Claims, and Seeing Jesus

Now we'll... Next question. Okay. So when you're doing your study, I would be very as you're studying through this, I would be very interested to see how they're going to handle 1 and 2 Timothy.

And Titus since Paul.

Is giving specific instructions to Timothy and to Titus to be sound in their doctrine and to warn them to protect the flock.

So I'm going to be doing a series of articles on doctrines as it relates to the things that they're most obviously guilty of, not one of them, whether it's the numbers. And what I'm going to do is take their apostles I've done on the Scriptures and 1 Timothy 4 .6 does not exceed what's written on the Shabbat.

And so I'm going to relate with them to see why are they exceeding what's written when beyond what's written. And I'll go to 2 Timothy 4 and I'll go to 2 Timothy 4. So they're violating pastoral principles in a sense.

Why did Jesus come on Passover and not Yom Kippur?

So with their movement,.

With them having supposed apostles, would that mean they would be able to write Scripture?

They say no. Because of that era of those specific apostles who have not been able to or are not called to write Scripture. And everything that happens now can't be in contradiction to Scripture. But it is.

So one of the things I was looking for is what apparently in 1 Corinthians 9, John Paul says am I not an apostle? Have I not seen the risen Lord? St. Peter Wagner actually said there are some apostles who say they've seen the risen Lord.

Now that we get into the issue of can Jesus be seen today? I really can't. I don't think anything Scripture says we can't see on the vision. And things like that. There are thousands upon thousands of Muslims in the Middle East who are having visions of Jesus on a regular basis.

So that's different than seeing the risen Lord. Okay? When I was in Jerusalem, not that this carries much weight, but something happened when I was in Jerusalem a few years ago. I've told this story here before.

Where I was in a bookstore with some people on a tour and they wanted to buy a Bible with Hebrew and English. So we're in there and this store owner comes up and says, am I not a Christian? Yeah. He said, no, I'm a Christian.

I'm like, okay. He goes, no, I'm a Christian. I wasn't bathing and just watching the girls. Because one of the propositions literally by somebody earlier about how she could be sold in marketplace. And there were some parents who asked that.

So I was guarding them literally. That's what I was doing there. So we're sitting there and I wasn't interested in the event. I'm watching them. And so this guy said, look, I see Jesus. He said, you don't understand.

He looked into my eyes and he said, I saw him. He appeared to me. I saw him when I looked into his eyes. I knew he was God. I can still see him looking at me. And I just said, when I was in seminary and I said, yeah, I've seen what I recently.

And he said, yeah, I know that. And he said, there's some people who have presuppositions and he just said, it's my sinning. I've seen these things. And so I was saying, and he said, some of them have seen the person.

Really? I thought he said so. But at least he was looking at the scriptures and trying to relate to the word of God, which I commend him for. Yes, it was a vision. I saw it in my mind's eye. So since these guys have the visuals of God and they prove them to the pastors, why do they do that?

The Bible says no. Simple question. It's not just a cultural thing. They're not even pastors and elders. Yet they have no problem with it. It's amazing. How would you do that? But they're not. There are other things that we can say that clearly point out some stuff.

One of the problems I've been reading about from some of the critics of the NAR is they don't like what happens. They don't like the experience. Well, how do you know? So you might ask somebody, someone writing it out, is that the monitor for a Christian?

Because it looks demonic. Because it's just similar descriptions of throwing themselves in a fire out of control. It doesn't mean it's always demonic. There's no telling. I don't make those judgments.

Oh, it's automatically demonic. It might be that someone's going through something. I tend to think it's demonic. But it doesn't mean it is. I just think logical. Can you base that assumption or presupposition that it's demonic based on?

Well, they don't have what they're teaching. Right. Yeah, I would agree with you. But that's the kind of thing to do. It's, for example, when a pastor is up teaching at Bethel Church on the stage, she's going through the scriptures and she's reading to a woman pastor who understands what he's all about.

Here's an example. And then there's someone, maybe even a grandma, she's teaching on the word of God. She's obviously out of God's will to begin with because she's a woman pastor teaching to authority over men.

Then I'd say, this doesn't seem to be in harmony with Scripture. I can't say it's biblical. Certainly cannot. And since you're working against Scripture, I'm going to conclude that that's supposed to be guilty by association.

But even then, I've got to be careful. It's not necessarily the devil working, but it's definitely not. It could be. There are three possibilities. Demonic influence, the Holy Spirit himself, or just emotionalism.

And I know that people will say, now, you can't say unless you're going to watch the stage. It's obviously demonic. Why do you have a word of note on that? They'll say, no, I just know. You have a spiritual experience.

Which I have as well. We have to be very careful. But because would it necessarily mean that? No. If you look at the view of God in the Scriptures, the one that Justin Peters brought up, the guy that took the sky train up to Seattle.

Because when you look at it in the view that they have of God, you see that over and over again. The sky train up to Seattle. It says that that's what he represents. It's like, let's say we have 15 different dispensationalists in here.

And I think one of them said, that's not dispensational, but there they are. There's a large group in their view of God you don't see, as you brought up earlier. When Isaiah stood in the presence of God, it seemed like it was God's design.

When people say, this kind of casual attitude, they don't know what's wrong with God. They take a long time to negotiate. Oh, I think he's about me right now. It appears. Oh, I'm sorry. That's the presence of God.

I like the way that's done. It's cool. It's totally cool. It's kind of stuff that they write about. I try and get people to understand. My face was through the green pew out of my agonizing tears of moaning convulsing it was out of my heart, out of my soul.

I was in the presence of holiness. That's what happened in my conversion. And that these guys will go to the throne of heaven. None of my experience makes sense. But, I'll tell you, what happens when they're in the Bible in the presence of God?

That kind of thing. So that's why I say, I don't have any problem if it doesn't contradict Scripture, so therefore it's within their realm of accountability. So, that's the way it is. But, you know, we have to be really careful about these things.

I know that I set myself up for a lot of problems for people to criticize. I do not. Everything is judged by Scripture. And when we see a Scripture in the presence of God, in the throne of God, so to speak, they are undone.

They are weeping. They are repentant. They are confessing. And they appoint themselves as apostles and prophets after living in the room of God. Give me a break. You know, when you're in the presence of God, you talk about who you are.

These people say, I'm a man of unclean lips. They confess what they are. They're not. That's how it is. That's how I know this guy is a wine sack of crap. They are a wine sack of crap. Hell sucks. Wine sack of crap.

That's what I call them. Hell sucks. And so they are, because they forget the throne of God. Really? When they're writing about God, you can also experience the throne of God. You better get to 1995 and I'll send you a thing like my white fox cheek.

And you can rub it on your forehead. And you'll be able to go to heaven with the throne of God. That's the kind of attitude I have about the stupidity that they are promoting. Who's your favorite? Darren wants to know what college you went to.

I went to Christ College, Irvine, which is now Concordia University for the last two years. But I went to a community college before that. Graduated with a Bachelor's in Social Science from Concordia University right around 1987.

Master of Divinity from West Missouri Theological Seminary. Hoover College Preparatory Seminary. Do you have anything you want us to know? Have you watched Forks Over Knives yet? Do I watch, like, Forks Over Knives?

What the heck is that? I don't know what it is. I don't remember. Somebody said something about that. I don't even know if it's a TV show. It's a great video. It's state mediators who are mediators. Do you watch that?

Oh, yeah. Okay, next question.

Women Deacons, 1 Timothy 3, and the Meaning of “Husband of One Wife”

Okay, this is about our prior discussion of women deacons. Subject and law.

What about the women deacons in Paul's circle? Outside of Turkey and Earth. I don't put any credence in anything that's outside of the scriptures as far as doctrinal purity or authority goes. So anything about anything outside of the scripture, you're wrong.

But in the New Testament, deacons, diakonos, there is used a feminine term of a servant. But it's not in the official office. Because a deacon is to be a man of one woman. That's what it says in the Office of Deacon in the Authority Position.

Along those same lines? Yeah. Oh, sorry. He says, does 1 Timothy 3 say only men should be deacons? It says in 1 Timothy 3 I'm going to go there. It says in 2 Thessalonians 1 I think there is a position Yes, there are, but they're not official.

They're not on the offices. They're servants. Just like the men are servants. Okay, here we go. In 1 Timothy 3 Deacons, likewise, must be men if they do not double tongue or continue much wine-consuming game.

These men also must be first testament that they serve as deacons if they're built on reproach. There's another place about it in 2 Thessalonians 1 Here we go. Deacons must be husbands of one wife. I believe it's Greek.

It's on there. Yes, goodnight gods. Man. A ne 'er's husband or, yes, goodnight gods. A ne 'er's husband or man and a man of one woman. A man of one woman. So here we go. An elder, for example, must be a man of one woman.

Well, this is because it has to have children who believe. What is one child? There's not children disqualified from being an elder. No, that's not the point. The point is that it has to be a man who has his household in order and he's a man of one woman.

He's married to one woman, not polygamy. That's what's going on there. So let's say a man is a good elder. He's got a wife and three believing kids. Or to be super literal, he's no longer married and has only believing children.

Right? Forgotten. Well, you know, the truth is kind of stuck. What the Bible is talking about is you have the elder all as male and the the elders masculine. The elders in the context of the church dogs.

It's male, it's male, it's male. I'm giving the doctrine of federal headship and why that's so important. They'll do a teaching on it again sometime. Believe that you're right. Yeah, husband of one wife is polygamy.

Is it also certainly not. I mean, can that be in polygamy? Well, there's a gray area about this in the church context and stuff. Among Christians, there's a debate. Some Christians will say even as an unbeliever, if you're divorced, you can never be an elder.

Some say if you've been divorced as an unbeliever, then you get married and you're a believer. And then some say if you're an elder, you don't know how long it takes. And so some might say then that different positions I've heard people trying to defend that any man who's divorced for any reason as a Christian can't ever be an elder.

And I'll say, wait a minute, what about the wife who becomes an adulteress and refuses to repent and he's done everything he can to reconcile to work with it and she won't repent. Is he disqualified? I would say no.

I disagree. I would say you can't use the one woman and man. The divorce is the one woman and man. If he hasn't remarried, it has to be only one woman for one man. You're saying a widower who remarries.

That's why I think the Greek is suggestive of a man and love of one woman is an attitudinal thing that he has to be a one woman and man.

He doesn't have eyes. They're not characters. It's a character issue. Monogamy. One wife. He couldn't do a good job in the church.

Can't a single guy be an elder? Can a single guy be an elder? I'm saying if he was married and had a wife, can a single guy be an elder? It's an attitudinal thing. If his wife dies, his children die, he no longer has a wife.

That's not monogamy. In your experience,.

Do you believe the root heart issues of professing Christians were pre-optimized.

With mysticism? What experience over the Word of God is necessary? Because you can be a young Christian and still be hooked up with some bad things and just not know and just be interested. And so you walk and then the draft of the Word of God and all the spirit works and changes you.

I can remember some of the things even as a new Christian that I did or the attitudes I had. Now I'm like, so God's gracious. We should be too. Next. Thank you very much. I love teaching, that amazes me.

Baptism of the Holy Spirit, Regeneration, and Apostolic Qualifications

Why today our conference will be Baptism of the Holy Spirit, Separate Regeneration. Baptism of the Holy Spirit, Separate Regeneration. I mentioned how you define it. So, regeneration is the work of God and the above of the Holy Spirit.

You're talking about a second movement. The feeling of baptism. That's what I think it is. The terms that you've got in the Holy Spirit, they mean it. You kind of whisper against it. It needs to come over human power in an extra way, an extra level of power.

And you can tell them to have this move. Well, let me tell you some of the experience. Interesting time and there was a period of a few months where I started to slide. And I was set on God and his conviction.

And one of my sins but I also wanted to follow God. I don't know if you've been in a state like that. But I've had some issues and some stuff. And I remember, I got angry at God one night. Leave me alone.

Which is not mean, but you know, you stupid, say something. What are you going to do? I remember that pretty well. But I also remember that I lost my faith even after it happened. But a month after that I was insatiably drawn to the Word of God.

Absolutely insatiably. I would read the Bible for four to six hours every day. I would go to Bible study six out of seven nights each week. It was just insatiable. I would consider that to be a baptism of the Holy Spirit.

No tongues or manifestations. No words of knowledge. No levitation. No anything. The incredible desire to hear more of Jesus. To learn from his Word. To go through and experience the Word of God. And I consider that to be an incredibly great blessing that God gave me.

And it lasted for years. I would read commentaries. I remember having a drafting job, a mechanical drafting at a certain company down in California in Florida. I'm sitting there. I'm on a drafting table.

I'm not just speaking in tongues. It's filled. I think it's really what it is. It's proof that God does. He gives you something. And there is absolutely no reason whatsoever that I can think of than chasing girls.

I never did drugs. I just never did it. I was into pornography. I was into all kinds of stuff except for drugs and alcohol. I did enough stuff to be arrested and be sent to jail. A lot of us have. I was a bad guy.

There's no reason that God would do certain things. He saved me when I was 17. He filled me with that spiritual experience. Possibly moved outside that window, but I think it might have been optical. But it was His doing.

Number 5 says Are these requirements being possible? Yes. It seems to be the case. I prefer to have things like unless you believe that I am dying your sins, it's absolutely. But it seems to be the case that you have to be considered as Lord to be an Apostle.

It seems to be. But then, we have some instances where there are others who are called Apostles, like Barnabas. Others are called Apostles. I talk about what's possible there. There's more research. Something I want to talk to you about.

Could it be that the New Testament prophets have to be Jews? Is that the bottom or the base that I put in there? For them to be uninformed of this mystery, so that they will be as unnamed to the mystery.

And the gentleman in the martial arts department, that was a note to myself. There's another person, Ephesians 3 to 5, which, in other generations, was made known to the sons of men as it was revealed by its holder in general.

And so, it's a note to myself, which I'm going to take out from here, because it's that I need to see if there's an idea hidden in there, so to speak, that the New Testament prophets had to be Jews. I'm not saying it is the case, but there were prophets before Christianity.

Well, there were New Testament prophets. And so, I was wondering if those two verses necessitate that the prophets have to be Jews. That's my guess. I don't know. I was just drawing a little plotter. Yeah.

They were around this time. It's so weird. They were of these older, prominent styles at the time, and some of the prophets were in the New Testament style. Now, John the Baptist was the greatest of the prophets.

So, that's none other than 1616, the Law of the Prophets, or until John. So, John the Baptist. So, when I was looking at Ephesians 3 .23, I went, no, I'm looking at Ephesians. I've got to have one of those Ephesians.

Ephesians 3 .5, I'm going to look at this. I love it. So, is it the case that... Okay. Is it the case that this is just me wondering, another generation was not making known the sons of men as the Catholic group, as it was revealed to his holy apostles and prophets in the spirit.

So, what was revealed to the apostles... Let's go over to the prophet here. What was revealed to the New Testament prophets here? In which, another generation was not... As it has now been revealed to his holy apostles and prophets, it seems like the apostles, the prophets, that you talk about now, in the spirit, what was revealed?

In the context, as to the Gentiles. In Romans chapter 25, as the Gentiles are coming in. Well, that would imply, if I'm correct, that the prophets here, Ephesians 3 .5, have to be Jews. See? Because if that's the case, that they have to be Jews, otherwise, as part of the mystery, it's revealed to the prophets.

If it were Jews, it would be revealed to the Gentiles and prophets, because that's what it is. That's why I'm thinking, I wonder if the prophets in the New Testament sense have to be Jews. Wow. That would be powerful in our discussion of the Mormons.

It would be powerful in the Mormons here, and it would be hugely powerful in the NAR as well. Can I make my case? I don't know. You can be a prophet, but you're not Jewish. I don't agree with that. You get one more box checked, you get several more boxes checked.

One thing with the apostles, just a more maneuverable thing there, is in Acts 1 .21 -26, what we have is the 11 saying how they're going to pick a replacement. So it was with them. It had to be from the beginning.

The thing there, though, is it's a historical narrative, so it's accurate reporting what did happen. Nowhere do we say, see where God says this is the... And the reason that becomes important is because some of the passages say Paul can't be an apostle.

When he says Emory, what is an apostle? Because Jesus called him to be one. Yeah, but this works. This works. It's what they said and what they did. So it may not be God saying this is the only means of...

Yeah, I understand. I'm not saying a whole bunch of things. We're going to get into the minutiae of some details. But what do you think of Ephesians 3 -5, Romans 11 -25, if there is one? If it's true?

Oh, that would be devastating for the NAR. And Mormons and Muslims. So yeah, it looks like they're bailing on the border, believing they can't handle the truth. That's what it is, isn't it? You've got to be...

So you've got to... So... I'm going to have to study it. It may be that... Maybe there's an implication, but I don't have proof. There's no case on it. But if I can prove an article, if I can get the evidence...

Maybe it's true. Maybe it's not. Anyway, this is what happens when you just study the Word. You go, wait a minute. What does it say? Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe there are other questions coming. Andrew from Facebook?

Andrew from Facebook. I'm asking questions from Facebook. He wants to know how does this work from the 1st Letter to Timothy regarding elected angels? Regarding elected angels. That means that God chose them.

What I think it means... Actually, that verse opens up a whole can of worms for me. I suspect that 1 Timothy 5 .1 is a clue. The angels chosen by God not to sin. Chosen angels, that's my opinion. If that's the case, why did they elect?

That got me thinking. And I suspect they had to be elected because actually, as I mentioned, we're self-aware, rational, things like that. Angels are included there. Because we don't possess holiness, which I believe is a attribute of God's greatest nature.

Only God cannot condemn Himself. Only God cannot sin. Let angels. That they had to be chosen not to sin because even they would have chosen to sin now. I suspect that there can be no other case because compatibility is a necessary part of our existence.

And that's... And one day I'm going to do some stuff more on this and then I'm going to go into some deep stuff. I don't know if I can speak. When you get into that heresy of slickness, the heresy of slickness will be resolved by heresy.

We show that every week. We show that every week. There's plenty of people who do videos on that. I don't know if I'm very far behind. That's right. Any questions?

Some of the best ways to try to understand the meanings of certain verses.

Most of the best ways to understand the meanings of certain verses. The first thing I would suggest is to read it prayerfully. Asking God to open up their hearts and their minds. To ask the Holy Spirit.

Ask Jesus through Luke 24 -45 to open up their hearts to receive the truth and understand it. To have that word open before them with prayer and supplication before God and Lord teaching the rules that generally we use to apply to understanding the truth.

I teach a course on this too. Andrew does this too. Basically, there are variations of this. You start from the center out. What does the verse actually say? What's the broader context? What's related passages?

What's the general theme? You kind of look at that and crinkle it together. You use what you need to as much as possible to try and not create any presuppositions. There's no guarantee. Andrew and I, for example, we disagree on several things, but we both use the same processes.

We both come up with different opinions on some debatable issues. It's not because either one of us is right or wrong. We both have to sit on the line. We are seeking to be presentational. Yeah, a covenantalist would take God for a covenantalist.

A dispensationalist would take God for a dispensationalist. It just gets into the root of the issue. I'm not a theologian. You can put anything you will to that.

Judgment of Works, Women Leading Bible Studies, and Church Authority

The judging of our works in Revelation for the believer.

I mean, it clearly shows that judging our works in Revelation for the believer has nothing to do with our salvation. Specifically, to examine all the verses related to it, to put them together and see if it's the same.

I have never, just only, gone through the book of Revelation and Ephesians. That's true.

That's an interesting question. Is it an authoritative problem if a woman leads a Bible study before church service?

If she leads a Bible study before church service. This would get into some of the gray areas. If a woman is teaching or exercising authority over men in the church, she shouldn't do it. That's what's happening.

It shouldn't be done. I know where the woman is teaching. When the man enters, she just stops teaching. She just waits. You go get some cookies really fast. That's where it stops. The difference between teaching.

In church versus teaching out of church? That's a good question. Teaching in church or teaching out of church? I would say yes, there's a difference.

Because Paul's giving instruction on how to behave in the church. As an example, at the seminary, we had a week, a long time, when all the classes were open to the public, and the seminary flew in a woman to teach at the seminary a class on what women can do and how they can be used in the church.

That would mean that the men in the seminary could sit under her teaching. I was the only man in the entire seminary. Guys, get in here. This is one of the more important topics you're going to have to understand, because at least half of your congregation members are going to be the ladies.

They can't be preachers or teachers. What else can they do? This woman gave a lot of great advice. I loved that. I had no problem. The seminary professors had no problem with it, because they flew in to teach specifically on local topics.

For instance, we have a church security minister. If I have a female firefighter, can I use her for church security? If you have Sunday school teachers, who are men, how do you use a fire extinguisher?

That's a good question. You have an insurance security team, a female, who knows there's a firefighter in the church, but how do you put out a fire? Absolutely. It's not an authoritative thing in the church context of preaching and teaching.

That's what's going on. I wouldn't be a Christian without a job. You can't teach because you're unqualified. That's not the church context, and that's why I focus on the issue of pastors and elders, because the Bible talks about us being men and male, and there's a federal headship representation issue associated with teaching and pastors and elders.

Who would win an MMA fight? I don't watch MMA. I don't do it. I don't watch it. One of the things that the instructor said, you never know who's going to win, because someone who has no skills at all can tackle a lucky shot and let you out.

Just I don't know who they are, but they are my instructors, so I can talk to them. Okay, so next, we've got some serious questions. I've got a ton of names. We've forgotten about that. Any other questions?

Robert, do you have any other questions? I don't have any questions. We've got another question. This is supposed to be the true audience here. What did they say? That is my son. What do you do for a designated fighter if you're a man identifying as a female and want to fight a female?

Actually, there's just a case. They just had a case where a girl was a wrestler supposedly transitioning as a man, so because of that, they were letting her take hormones. She wants state. This is ridiculous.

People are saying, she wants to shoot people out of state. No. It's stupidity. And so Frank Wallace said she should fight against men because she said she's a male. How long does she last? She wants to fight.

Liberals, you've got mental problems. That's what you do. Yes. I'm sure she's a little mad. I'm not sure. It seems like a glorious eschatology. The church establishes the kingdom. Well, Jesus said, if he doesn't return, no flesh will be left.

At the end of the age, the judgment occurs. At the end of the age, things happen. I'm pessimistic. I don't have power. I don't trust the power of what it says. From what I see, when he says, when the son of man returns, will he find faith?

Why would he ask the question? It's just increasing and getting better. If those days being not cut short, no flesh would be saved. Now, I'm of the opinion, that in Genesis 2 .17, when God said to Adam and Eve, you eat of this fruit, and Adam all died.

My opinion, is that when Jesus comes back, it's going to be the last moment before mankind destroys itself. The last hour, the last day, the last week, the last bit before he comes back. I think he's going to say, this is going to die.

The Adam and Eve ate, they died. But the death that they were talking about, God was talking about the separation from God. Destruction. And all that comes with it. And so, that's why, one of the reasons I continue my religion, is why one has a mission on the religion of the Son.

It's so bad, that we have a fleet of hills to survive. That's what I see. What did Adam say? Don't you believe in the power of the gospel? Yes. Well, there you go. Can you give a brief description of the gospel?

Basically, the world will be converted. And it will usher in the Kingdom of God. And it will return. Basically, there's variation within that. See, the problem with what I do, we're going to satisfy everyone's thinking about how evil I am, stupid I am, and ignorant I am.

That doesn't help. It doesn't help. So, with the Catholic stuff, I have to know, there's so many different types of atheism. And philosophically, I know all kinds of categories of philosophy. And this is a logical system.

Logical systems. Counterfactuals. Monism, for example. I'm having to study counterfactuals more than they do. And that's very difficult questions. And I'm not getting any help from monists. So I have to study and read their material, read their material, read their material, read their material.

And then I summarize what I'm reading, and then they go, you're wrong, you're wrong, you're wrong. What they were saying recently, they couldn't believe how much I'm attacked. Oh, I know. I got this call today from one of my old seminary buddies.