Debunking Hagee's Four Blood Moons — Part 2

It's time for another edition of fighting for the faith. Friday April 11th 2014. All right, we're gonna get to that Leclerc Thing that we did not get to yesterday. We've got a Cindy Jacobs update. And we're all over the map today another one of those all over the map episodes stinking hot.

Part two. Thank you for tuning in. You're listening to fighting for the faith, my name is Chris Rose, bro. I'm your servant in Jesus Christ. And this is the program that dishes up a daily dose of biblical discernment the goal of which help you to think biblically.

Help you to think critically. Help you slow down. Stop open up your Bible and compare what people are saying in the name of God to the Word of God. So what we did yesterday the segment that I put together.

For the four blood moons, I mean here's the deal blood moon number one otherwise known as a lunar eclipse. Is going to be on and April 15th, and I gotta tell you my email box is just Filling up with questions regarding the full four blood moons.

Which is the reason why I did that segment yesterday, and why we're gonna do another segment today and probably one on Monday. Just want to let you all know that. Um the the issue being is that there are a lot of people who are are really worried and.

And what's causing their worry? What's causing their consternation? What's causing? You know if you would kind of like low-level weeping and gnashing of teeth worrying about the end of the world, you know.

Is this the end do I need to sell my properties or something? No, no, no, no. No, the the four blood moons teaching is it's it's Bible twisting. It's this is not something you as a Christian need to be worried about.

Listen. Christ is gonna return when Christ is gonna return and there's not a thing that you or I can do to stop it. There's not a thing that you or I can do to make it happen. You know Jesus is coming back when Jesus is coming back and when he's good and ready it could be tomorrow.

It could be a thousand years from now could be two thousand years from I don't know when he's coming back. And see the thing is is that the the council, you know in the one true God between the Father Son and Holy Spirit the council of the Trinity they don't need any of us to Sit there and advise them regarding things like this.

And so what happens is is that there are there are people who are in the Christian Church who are off-topic and in unfortunately when they get off-topic they become experts in minutia experts in things that We're not really called as Christians to be experts on and this is what I see in general within those who focus their attention on the prophetic and focus their attention on the end times and focus their attention on trying to crack the code or the from time to time, you know when I'm being Less than nice I'll call it play the play the game called pin the tail on the Antichrist and.

And so what happens is is that you know, there's they're scouring the internet. They're scouring the news they're they're on the dredge report trying to see how this story fits with that story or if it if it fits with a Particular prophecy in the book of Revelation or in Daniel and in what I say knock it off.

Knock it off the Christ's Church and Christians are not called by Christ to crack the Eschatological code and I assure you that when we get down to the wire mm-hmm, and when things go haywire and you know, the world is in turmoil and we're in the last bit of birth pangs before the return of Christ.

It'll all make sense I Promise it will if you won't have to sit there and guess everybody will get it and regarding, you know signs and wonders in the heavens. Everybody will see them around the globe and everybody will know that what's going on.

Okay, you won't have to guess that being the case these four blood moons. These are naturally recurring Phenomena known as eclipses. That's what they is. And so we're you know, we'll spend more time today kind of unpacking John Hagee's teaching on this in order to expose it for what it is.

Exploitation making a lot of money in the exploitation fear-mongering and the same kind of misguided and false focus. As as William Tapley which takes your eyes off of Christ, you know everyone. You know, everyone knows that silly little joke now that it we all have because of the movie up.

Yeah, you know they had the dog character in the movie up, you know. He'd be talking to go squirrel, you know, right, you know, and and it was it just hilarious, right? So we all do that see the thing is is that the four blood moons is a squirrel and.

So we're supposed to be preaching Christ in him crucified for our sins calling Sinners to repentant faith in Christ for the forgiveness of their sins and teaching all that Christ has commanded us rightly handling God's Word making disciples.

Helping them mature in the faith and in their understanding of God's Word in depth in context and this four blood moon stuff. It's a squirrel. All right, it's a squirrel. Stop chasing it. Okay, stop being distracted by bright shiny things or small fluffy animals with with bushy tails, okay.

This is not what we're to be in the business of doing and so. Those of you who are concerned and worried about well, what if what if I had those? Listen Christ Sits at the right hand of God the Father all authority in heaven on earth has been given to him.

He is going to see you through to your eternal life and. The reality is is that the things you should be focusing on and really, you know, I'm not worrying in the bad sense. But you know focusing your attention on and you know your blood sweat tears mind juice, you know the focus things like that.

Focus on being good husband being a good wife being a good student being a good father being a good mother being a great employee. These are the things that Christ has called you to in serving your neighbor in your vocation and where you're at and you're going out.

And you're coming in Preaching the gospel telling people the good news of Jesus Christ not telling them. Oh, listen, you know that four-blood moon stuff because here's what's gonna happen. Is that the four-blood moons?

It's going to become the the late great planet Earth of of this time period. You remember the book the late great planet Earth. All right, and then it was a 1980s countdown to Armageddon I I grew up During that time and I remember the book the late great planet Earth.

I remember the movie the thief in the night I remember how Lindsay's book about the 80s being the countdown to Armageddon and you know what you can buy those books now they're paperback you can buy them at the the nickel store, you know for a nickel and You know, you would you'd pick something up like that and look at it as an oddity going.

Yeah. Right, so, you know what the four-blood moons are they're just this year's Book that that down the line are gonna be sold for a nickel at the nickel and dime store as Oddities because you know, it's you know, everyone will have gotten upset and have a lot of angst and talking about these things and the sad part about it is is that in Focusing our attention on these false doctrines these false teachings that we should not be Giving our attention to or our time or whatever to is that if this is what the conversation you're gonna have with your neighbor.

All right, you know you so rather than having the conversation where you sit down and say listen, I need to tell you Something that is alarming and and great at the same time. We're both sinners and you know that God exists and I've got great news Jesus Christ bled and died for you on the cross and he's Calling you to repent in faith and trust in him for the forgiveness of your sins that you may have eternal life and not perish.

Okay, so rather than having that conversation, which is a conversation you need to be having with your neighbors. You're gonna have a conversation that goes something like this, you know. You're you're at you know around the barbecue in your backyard, you know as the things are warming up and you know Spring it starts to turn into summer and you know, you're you know, you have the neighbors over.

So, you know, you're you're flipping burgers on the thing and you go. Hey, did you read that book on the four blood moons? Yeah, yeah, you know. Well, actually I heard of it. But what's that four blood moon stuff all about?

Oh, yeah. We had a four blood moons and so you're gonna sit there and wax eloquent about the four blood moons and at the end of it. Your neighbors are going to go home having not heard the gospel. Having not been called to repentance and faith in Christ for the forgiveness of their sins.

They're not gonna know anything about sound doctrine and here's what's gonna happen two years from now three years from now ready two years from now three years from now your neighbors are gonna come over and You are going to be the one having a crisis of faith.

Okay thinking man, you know I I don't know if this Christianity thing is for real. It just seems like it's just a lot of weird stuff that Christians believe and your neighbor is gonna say yeah. Yeah I remember a couple years ago when you were talking to me about that.

Those four blood moons things and how that was supposed to be like, you know. Some epic sign about the end of the world and stuff like that. Well, it didn't pan out now did it? No. Yeah, see Christianity's really just for the birds and you know, you know I thought I thought you were smarter than that.

And so what you need to do is you need to stop, you know being a Christian and you know. Come play golf with me on Sundays rather than going to church and go. Yeah, that probably makes sense. That's see that's what's gonna happen.

Okay, why because you're not preaching the truth. Okay, you're getting caught up in the latest fad in the latest Book that you know, of course Hagee's laughing himself all the way to the bank. Okay, but of course keep in mind.

He's consulted NASA and Google. All right, you know, so he knows he's got all of this, right? No, he doesn't. Okay, but he's making a ton of money off this book and making a lot of hay off of it and in the end.

What the effect that it's gonna have is not bringing people to penitent faith in Christ with the forgiveness of their sins it's gonna have it's gonna be one of those things that people that people who are Christians will point to and Think yeah, you know, I don't know if Christianity is true or not.

That's the effect that it's gonna have and you know. And the person who the people who are getting hurt by this are Christians. And so you need to stand up and see this for what it is. It's false doctrine.

You're being made merchandise of the body of Christ is being made merchandise of by slipshod history bad astronomy and no No basis of what you know anything that the Bible teaches that that's what this thing really is.

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Let me thank you for your support. We cannot do what we are doing here without it moving along. That's right, it's time for a four blood moons update here's william tapley. Is. That's right, it's prophesied the uh end times eschatological prophetic anthem written and performed by William tapley the third eagle of the apocalypse.

And the co-prophet of the end times again. The reason why I play that is because uh to draw the connections john, heggy. Is william tapley, but he has a budget and he's got chops. It's the same thing.

Just different people you get what i'm saying here. Okay, so here's john heggy again talking about the four blood moons and he's going to get more specific about what supposedly these blood moons mean and he's Gone into he's going to be going into some depth here about the fact that god created the heavens and the earth which is true.

He did and that he created the uh, the the sun the moon and the stars for signs and seasons and he did. Yeah, but those more have to do with like the seasons on the earth, you know, like winter Spring summer fall that kind of stuff uh, but here's um John, heggy, here we go.

Now once you cross that bridge you move to the next absolute. As creator he is absolute control of the sun the moon and the stars genesis 114. The bible says then god said let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night.

Listen closely and let them be for signs and seasons And for days and years. The hebrew word for signs signs and seasons Also means signal.

Um, yeah, see that thing is again, uh illegitimate totality. Totalitarian. Totality transfers. Tough to get that out. Illegitimate totality transfer. Here's the deal. The question is what does it mean in the context that it appears?

Just because the word has multiple meanings doesn't mean it means all of the things that it could mean. When it appears in a sentence the question is what does it mean in the sentence in which it appears?

Just because the hebrew word could also mean signal doesn't mean that it means signal. Here in genesis 1 in fact, it doesn't so let them be for signals.

Signals. The heavens are god's billboard and when something big is about to happen happen. He gives planet earth a sign in heaven. It's a signal that something significant Is about to happen. Pay attention.

Now I agree with him to an extent. It is true that there's going to be signs in the heavens you know blood. You know blood sun moon stars all this kind of stuff. Signaling the imminent return of christ.

No doubt about that. The four blood moons. They ain't that um. And here's the reason why um. Four blood moons occur have occurred many times throughout history. Um, this is not a big deal. In fact, you can talk about tetrads if you would some of these people who talk about this talk about these lunar eclipse tetrads.

And what's funny is is that the guy who put this together, what was his last name blitz or something like that? Um, anyway, the guy who put this together. I mean, yeah, man, how do I explain this? He totally.

You know just basically went onto the nasa website and what he ended up doing was uh, it was you know going onto the nasa website looking at the um, You know the history of these you know these. He calls them tetrads, you know four times, you know four times where you have four lunar eclipses in a row kind of thing.

And uh, and then he tried to key it into you know, how often are these four? When we have these tetrads do they appear? Um, you know on jewish feast days, right? Um, and then uh, and uh, and so, you know kind of figure that out.

Well, the thing is is that the jewish feast days are actually key to the lunar calendar so it's not an uncommon thing for jewish feast days to fall during times when there's a. Um a lunar eclipse. It's actually quite common.

Um, like like very very very common. Uh, but then this guy went out and you know. Tried to see if he can see if uh, you know if there were significant events pertaining to the history of of the jews. Uh with these tetrads and so he identified six tetrads.

You know in you know in recent history, you know, maybe five six hundred years something something like that and um two of them. He admits there were no. There were no significant events pertaining to israel.

Regarding those tetrads like none whatsoever. So he's got six different tetrads two of them automatically. Well, nothing happened. Okay, which should tell you something and then the remaining four he tried to backwards engineer to see if there were things that go along With it.

Okay. Including like the spanish inquisition uh the uh israel being recognized as a nation again, you know after you know, Thousands of years of not being you know in their land and then and then the six days war uh, the problem is is you know are in the details, but i'll give you more of that in a minute, but uh,.

Specifically the spanish inquisition one is hilariously ridiculous, but we continue so you get what he's up to.

Nasa has said this is coming.

Nasa has said oh quick, honey. Start stockpiling food. Nasa said there's four.

Lunar eclipses coming God has said through joel and saint peter. Listen when this happens, it's unusual.

No Jesus said in mark. No, actually no Jesus no god has not said through joel or saint peter that listen, this is unusual. We went through this the prophecy of joel as it was preached by the apostle peter on the day of pentecost yesterday.

Um, no peter was not referring to Four blood moons nor was the prophet joel 13 24 26, but in those days The sun shall be darkened.

And the moon shall not give its light. Then they shall see the son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Okay. Yeah, and that particular prophecy by jesus Is talking about the last day. He's not talking. Jesus was not pointing people to a regularly recurring event. Uh eclipses, okay, and here's the idea is what jesus is describing there is Impossible for it to be an eclipse.

Okay, because it's impossible for there to be both a solar eclipse and a lunar eclipse at the same time. And jesus is describing in that in that prophecy from the olivet discourse That the sun will be darkened and the moon will be turned to blood and it's simultaneous.

Which means it ain't a Eclipse that's taken place. It's something completely different. Hagee is just basically pulling a fast one. Why. Because he's making a lot of money ton. Oh money off of this false teaching.

That verse describes a time in the future when the sun and the moon will eclipse at the same time. And god sends planet earth a signal that something big is about to happen. Now matthew 24 is discussing the second coming bible history of god's total control of the sun moon and the stars.

If god is the creator. And he has total control. Give a demonstration of that control and then we can move to the next thought in joshua chapter 10. The children of israel were attacked by five kings who were trying to destroy the jewish people.

Now.

Notice what he's doing here is trying to set up the stage here that god's in control of the sun moon and stars. No christian questions this. This is this is a given um. The thing is is that the way god has set up the universe to run.

Um eclipses show up normally in the course of how the universe runs without any special intervention on the part of god.

They were moving from egypt's bondage to the promised land. Joshua and israel were winning the fight, but they needed more daylight saving time to defeat their enemies. So listen to this. Joshua spoke to the sun.

Don't you know that really requires an unusual level of faith to speak to the sun? And this is what's recorded in the bible and yeah.

And joshua had a direct promise from god that they would win the battle that day. So, I mean he was just exercising faith in the word of god that he had joshua 10 12 and 13 sun.

Stands still over gibeon and moon in the valley of ajalon. So the sun stood still and the moon stopped until the people of israel had revenge upon their enemies. The bible continues so the moon so the sun stood still in the midst of the heaven and did not hasten to go down.

For about a whole day. That's a long time. The point god has total control over the sun and the moon and they both stopped until israel won the battle. And then time continued. Secondly god's complete control of the sun is demonstrated again in the story of hezekiah.

Who asked god to lengthen his life 15 years? Hezekiah on his deathbed was visited by the prophet isaiah who told him that he hezekiah was going to die. Hezekiah turned his face to the wall. And he prayed to god and he reminded god how faithfully he had served the lord all of his life.

And god told isaiah tell hezekiah. He's not going to die. I'm going to give him another 15 years to live. Hezekiah asked isaiah the prophet. He said listen. What sign is the lord going to give me that he's going to heal me?

Then isaiah said quote. This is a sign to which from the lord will send to you that he will do the thing which he has spoken. Then he asked him the question hezekiah shall the sun go forward 10 degrees or go backwards 10 degrees.

Hezekiah answered it's an easy thing for the sun to go down. Because it always goes down. I don't want the sun to go down. I want the shadow to go backwards 10 degrees. I don't want you just to stop son.

I want you to back up. Think about that that's control. So isaiah the prophet cried out to the lord and he brought the shadow of The 10 degrees backward by which it had gone down on a sundial. It was not they rubbed their arthritic elbow and said we felt it went that way.

It was measured on a sundial and that's all in second kings the 20th chapter verses 9 through 11. The points i'm making here is the same amount of time that joshua required to win the battle in joshua 10.

And the amount of time that god reversed the sun to Demonstrate that he was going to save hezekiah's life by 15 years. Balance the clock. God controlled the sun and the moon as a sign to all humanity that he is an Absolute control of the sun and the moon and the stars.

He's controlling the sun and the moon right now to send our generation a signal. But the question is Yeah, um.

Yeah, here's the problem. No, uh, these four lunar eclipses Are not some signal that god's trying to send to us. Okay, if that were the case Then everybody would recognize. Oh my goodness. God's trying to talk to us here.

We've never heard of four blood moons before. They happen Quite regularly. Let me back this up so you can kind of get what's going on here. This again is like william tapley claiming that god's trying to get our attention through sporting events.

He's controlling the sun and the moon right now to send our generation a signal. But the question is are we getting it? I'll sell you more in just a minute. Thirdly consider. Yeah again. He's not sending a message.

The star. The wise men followed from the east to bethlehem. As a demonstration of god's total control over the signs in the heaven the wise men came into herod's court asking Where is he that is born king of the jews?

Again, notice what he's doing. He's going into every passage where it shows that god in his sovereignty controls The sun the moon and the stars as if this is going to form the foundation. For us understanding these four blood moons are a message from god.

If they were a message from god, why are they a regularly occurring event?

Hmm many of you familiar with that in the scripture. But we have seen his star in the east and have come to worship him. That's in matthew 2 and 2. They had been following that star for months. They didn't come from across the street.

I want to tell you that a star is really a ball of gas on fire in the sky. If someone calls you a star it may not necessarily be a compliment. Matthew 2 and 9 said and behold the star which they had seen in the east.

Listen went before them. The star was moving until it came and stood still over what the young child was.

Again, nobody's questioning this who calls himself a christian. The issue is whether or not these. These four lunar eclipses are a message from god. Star led them moving and it stopped right over where jesus is born.

Do you see how totally god controlled this star? To lead the wise men to the birth of the christ child. The star was a sign. It was a signal. Something big was about to happen in bethlehem's manger and they were there.

God lit up the heavens with the star and pointed it right to that manger. The sign jesus gave us to be concerned about his return. He said in matthew 24 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun shall be darkened.

Solar eclipse.

No, it's not a solar eclipse. The sun being darkened means the sun is actually going to shine less. Not a solar eclipse. The solar eclipse is not a sign because solar eclipse. Just wait a couple minutes and it's over.

Okay that when when when the sun eclipses, you know, there's a solar eclipse a total one number one. It's not seen all over the earth. No, it's. There's a path that you can follow and you have to be in the path of uh.

Of the solar eclipse in order to see it in its totality. Otherwise, you just see part of the sun disappearing as the moon passes between us and the sun. Um, so no, this is not a solar eclipse that jesus is talking to and what you can't see is that john heggie is pointing to his big billboard with the four blood moons on it as if Matthew 24 has something to do with this.

It doesn't and the moon will not give its light. A blood moon. No, it's not a blood moon. Notice jesus's words. It happens at the same time. Physically impossible for there to be an eclipse a solar eclipse and a lunar eclipse at the same time.

And then the sign of the son of man Jesus will appear in heaven and they shall see the son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. That's a description of the second coming. Consider the four blood moons I've given it to you in joel 2 verses 30 through 31.

No, joel. 2 does not have to do with four blood moons. I've given it to you again in acts 2. Acts 2 has nothing to do with four blood moons. Verses 19 through 20.

This is not a fabrication. This is written in the word of god. NASA is now saying this is going to happen starting in april.

2014. Yeah, nasa is saying this is going to happen as if nasa is somehow Confirming joel 2 and acts 2.

This is just flat out deceit. God has made it very clear that at some point in the future He's going to cause the moon to turn to blood and the sun not to give its light.

Yeah, again, it's simultaneously.

This is god's signal to this terminal generation.

No, the four blood moons the four lunar eclipses are not a message from god regarding anything. This is just a normal.

Thing that happens that something is big and it's going to happen soon.

And that's something yeah fear-mongering prophetic fear-mongering by twisting god's word. That's what we're listening to here.

Is going to change world history forever. We began this sermon by quoting genesis 1 14. And god said let there be lights in the heaven to divide the day and the night And let them be for signs or signals.

When I was in washington talking to pastor mark blitz He asked me if I'd ever considered the study of the lunar eclipse with regard to a prophetic signal. I said no. He said you should. So I came home and thinking about what the pastor had said I sat down At my computer And began to work.

I knew that our bible this one Was written on the lunar calendar our calendar. The western civilization calendar is the gregorian calendar from pope gregory of rome. That means it's pagan in origin. Origin.

It's not god's calendar. Our calendar and the calendar of this book do not match.

So throw in a little roma phobia in here. Well, that'll prove that he's right, right?

Sun god is for sunday. Moon god is for monday. That's a sermon for another time. Believe me much of what christianity salutes is pagan to its roots. The thought registered in my brain that maybe the heavens are god's billboard and he's sending us a signal.

But we're not getting it. So I began to look up the nasser lunar signals. And I thought maybe these signs in the heavens refer to israel. He's the defender of israel. He created israel. Maybe these lunar warnings are meant meant for israel.

So I googled moon eclipse in 1948 and in the middle of the computer screen I saw something that literally made me leap out of my chair.

Really? So this is basically this is like william tapley describing how he reads the drudge report.

I printed it out. Here it is. I'm going to read it for you. It says four blood red total lunar eclipses will fall on passover. Eclipses will fall on passover in sukkot in 2014 and 2015. The same back-to-back occurrences at the time of 1492 1948 and 1967.

If you know anything about history those three dates in israel's history are the most important dates.

In in all of time and this is where it gets to be. Well, let's just put it this way. He's engaging in some. How shall I put it? Um historical fudge work? Yeah, let me have him spin this out just a little bit.

Three times this has happened.

In over 300 years and now it's getting ready to happen a fourth time now again. Keep this in mind. Blitz's research shows that this has happened Six times and twice in the six times that it's occurred recently.

Um. Nothing has actually happened. There's no significant events to go with it.

Four blood red moons. The fact is that in judaism a solar eclipse.

Is a negative sign for the nations of the world. Uh, is this according to the kabbalah? I mean your jewish Astrology. Is this what you're referring to? How is that valid? A lunar eclipse.

Is generally a negative sign for israel. This chart has both. This back-to-back occurrence happened in 1492.

1948 and 1967. Now listen to this. How many of you.

Instinctively know what happened in 1492. I'm not talking about columbus, by the way.

Columbus and you know columbus sailed the ocean blue in 1492.

1492. How many of you don't know. Now in april of 1492. Was the edict of expulsion from spain for the jewish people. By king ferdinand and queen isabella of spain. It's called the edict of expulsion. Because the jews were given 14 days to get out of spain.

In simple language the jew who refused to convert to catholicism was kicked out of spain and could never return.

They had 14 days to leave the country now. Let's just do a little bit of historical work here. Okay 1492 the royal decree the decree of expulsion. Okay is when that took place when was the first eclipse in the tetrad of Blood moons, uh in and around that time.

When was the first one? Answer. Not until a year later one year after this royal decree in 1492 in april of 1493 was the first of the four blood moons now now Call me silly here, but if god's going to send a sign that something big is uh about to happen right about to happen.

Why would he send the sign after the thing had actually occurred? Okay, because the first eclipse in the four in the four blood moon tetrad. At that time didn't occur until a year after that royal decree that he just talked about.

Which was by the way part of the thing that we call the spanish inquisition. And the spanish inquisition began in 1478 and ended in 1834. Okay um, so Here's the deal. I I talk about the post hoc ergo proctor hoc fallacy after this therefore because of this.

Yeah, I guess a good way to think about it is is that you know uh, those of you who are sports fans if you have like like a particular Seat seat that you sit in or you know a lucky shirt that you wear or you know.

Maybe you have your socks on you know backwards or something like that. Or you know when I went to the uh, the reds game last year that at you know rally time, you know, they People in the stands if they have a reds cap on they put their hat inside out and stick it on their head.

Um, you know, so it's inside out and you know backwards kind of thing, right? Okay, so if the reds win and everyone's wearing their hat inside out. Does that mean that the reds won because everybody wore their hats inside out the answer is no, of course not.