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Today we are going to be addressing a Very timely subject.

A Christian looks at the elections through the eyes of the Bible.

And it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to iron sharpens iron radio.

Dr. Joseph C. Moore.

Craft the third.

It's good to be back with you Chris, too.

And dr. Moore craft is an author and he's the pastor of Heritage Presbyterian Church in Cumming, Georgia.

Why don't you for the sake of our listeners who have not yet heard you on this program?

Inform us about Heritage Presbyterian Church in Cumming, Georgia.

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in

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I did last week had been it

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But we believe it's the responsibility of the church To bring the discipline of the

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Father Son and Holy Spirit and Teaching them to observe all that he has commanded us.

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Cumming, Georgia My there I should say website is heritage

Presbyterian Church calm Presbyterian church calm and I want to thank dr. Moore craft

for being so willing To be a fill -in guest today at the very

last minute We had a previously scheduled guest on the program

who could not be with us today because of a matter involving a

hospitalization of a family member.

So we will let you know when that guest will be back on the program and for anyone Who

had heard of that guest being promoted?

As our guest today, but thank you. Dr. Moore craft for being so willing to Bail us out at the

last minute and We are

speaking about a very controversial theme that

Amazingly divides professing Christians.

You know, I had a Lyft driver today for those of you unfamiliar with Lyft

it is the competitor to uber and My Lyft driver today.

His name is Ruben from San Juan, Puerto Rico.

Ruben made it clear during our conversations that he was not a born -again believer Although he seemed to

have a high level of respect for Christians and he said that there

are members of his family that are Baptists and Involved in

Christian music and so on but Ruben very enthusiastically

told me that he was voting Republican today and He told me that he thinks

the Democratic Party Stands for a lot of crazy stuff as he put it

and he said These liberals are doing a lot of crazy things in his very thick

Puerto Rican accent and the thing that is very Amazing to me

is that you could have a man Who is not even regenerate does not even have the

indwelling of the Holy Spirit and he sees the truths of

The fallacy of the Democratic Party and the or the Democrat Party,

excuse me and the insanity that those

who are the leading candidates the

platforms that they stand on the grotesque Satanic

things it used to be That universally even

liberals Were horrified over late -term abortion now, they celebrate that they

don't care if the baby is nine months old.

They don't care if the baby is born accidentally after an attempted abortion, they still

believe a woman has the right to murder that child and The

the platform of of Giving so -called rights to

children even prepubescent children to be sexually mutilated

surgically and through pharmaceutical pharmaceutical means to so

-called Change their gender which that is never accomplished.

That is an impossible thing to attempt to accomplish and This person

as I said this cab driver or this uber this Lyft driver Immediately

recognized there's no way I can vote for people who stand for things like

that and yet there are regenerate people Who have the

Holy Spirit in them and it's hard for me to believe that they are Genuinely regenerate and

perhaps most of them are not but only God can know but there are

Christian or professedly Christian people out there Who say that the good?

outweighs the bad in voting for the liberal Democrats

because they think that the policies of these politicians who are liberal

Democrats, even if they Believe in things that that these Christians personally reject.

They think that they are more Christlike and they're concerned for the underdog for the poor

for the the persecuted and on and on.

Do you share my? bafflement Over this how you can have

people who?

Have very little education Who don't have the benefit of a new heart

from Christ do not have the benefit of the Holy Spirit to enlighten them

In regards to biblical truth and yet they could still plainly see something

that is Very serious, you know has eternal consequences here.

That these professing Christians cannot see there is common grace.

That happened to me when I ran for the United States Congress back in 1986.

A

Woman

who

was

an

ace.

That's right.

So

God's coming one

because

Constitutional Republic.

Yeah, but the word

democracy does different, you know, I don't understand my favorite

political talk show host.

Not saying he's a brother in Christ.

He's.

He makes it fairly clear that he's not.

But my favorite political talk show host is Tucker Carlson and yet he constantly Refers to

the United States as a democracy.

I don't understand it because he's a brilliant guy.

So what why is it that people keep repeating that mistake?

I went to public schools probably.

The word democracy is made up of two

Preservation

of

the

United

States

to

me

out

of

a

desire

for

personal

safety

and

personal

wealth

and

It's only during the Democrats That things have greatly accelerated.

Amen, amen, and we're going to go to our first break right now.

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We are addressing the theme a Christian looks at the elections through the eyes of the Bible on

Election Day 2022.

If you have a question Send it in to Chris Arnzen at gmail .com.

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As always give us your first name at least Your city and state and your country of residence

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Please only remain anonymous if your questions Question involves a personal and private matter.

Now you mentioned earlier That the the most crucial

issue that a politician Should stand upon and that a

voter should be looking for in what

candidate he will support and vote for is

The protection of the most fragile and helpless

Humans on the face of the earth unborn children who Are in

what should be the safety of their mother's womb?

And yet it could be one of the most unsafe places the human being can be in this day and

age because Not only does the world

legalize the gruesome Barbaric butchery of these

children Who are torn to pieces while alive and vacuumed out of the

womb like garbage?

But it's celebrated It's enthusiastically celebrated by not only

individuals but politicians.

But you'll hear people say well.

Voting for a president for instance doesn't matter If he's pro -abortion because he has no

real say in that issue or you you could go on to other politicians running for office.

And the person will say the same thing they'll say I I just

like this candidates fiscal policies better than the The conservative better than the pro

-life Candidates, so I'm voting for the the Democrat over this issue in that

issue and the other issue Even though he or she is pro -abortion because they're not going to

do anything to affect that issue.

Anyway, how do you respond to that?

Voting for a

political

party.

I met

him

years

ago

at 10th

Presbyterian

Church

in

Philadelphia,

Pennsylvania.

Where he was there, right?

Yes, that's great.

And

you

know,

I

know.

Some of our listeners Will say here he goes again with that story as I've told it a

number of times on the program.

I may even told you but I have or had a

friend he is since past since This

occurred This this friend was a local

black pastor and He seemed to in

spite of the liberal circles that he Fellowshiped in

he seemed to personally understand the gospel and And had

conservative theological views.

But he contacted me after I aired a rerun

of an interview that I did with Dr. Clennard

Childress who is the the former

and the operator of a Website called black genocide.

It is an anti -abortion Website and

I aired a rerun of that interview after Barack

Obama was elected and during that interview this

brother was speaking out against the candidacy of

Barack Obama and My friend

Contacted me and said he was so upset That I had this interview after the election that

I aired the rerun of this interview After the election because the election was settled and now

All I was doing was stirring up racial tension on Long Island, which is where I used to

live and I Said to him look you would you like to

come back on the or should I say come on the program?

He had never been on the program before.

Would you like to be a guest on my program so you can give a response? to that

interview and He came on and I said to him well First of

all it's a mystery why you think I'm stirring up racial tension since my guest was black

That's pastor Kleiner Childress.

And by the way the wet the specific website that he has founded and operates is black genocide

org black genocide org and So therefore you have

people two people of different skin colors uniting Over issues

that we believe are Essential for the Christian Church, so therefore it's not trying to

cause division.

It's showing unity, but but I said to him secondly What is it that you have such a

problem with?

Over.

Those evangelical Christians who are so adamant in their opposition to

abortion and He said I don't personally believe in abortion.

But the thing that bothers me so much is that white evangelicals such as

yourself are very often one issue voters and

The abortion issue is the only thing you seem to be concerned about.

And I asked him a question.

I said If you found out there was a political candidate doesn't matter what office could be

mayor senator.

Could be president of the United States and you found yourself agreeing with every position on this

person's platform and yet The candidate was a member in good standing of the Ku

Klux Klan.

Would you vote for that person because absolutely not I said why.

Because he's a member of the Klan obviously I said so that's your one issue.

And he was dumbfounded and after Stuttering a bit sit, but but but

he's a member of the Klan and I said yes.

But it's your one issue and I said and to be perfectly honest brother Don't be

offended by this but being an advocate of the brutal

torturous murder of unborn children is far more satanic and grotesque

to some moron being in the Klan and having ridiculous ideas and Sinful and wicked

ideas about the color of people's skin.

As much as that's a grotesque Position to have to be a

bigot.

And be a member of the Klan as grotesque as that is it doesn't come close To being an advocate of the

murder of unborn children, so how would you respond to that interaction?

Candidate

now

when you say

you're not a

one -issue voter

what you mean, and I'm

having you

clarify this

I.

Believe from what I've heard from you that you mean.

There are one there is one issue and it's not only abortion.

But it may be other issues like you said same -sex marriage legalization and so on but there are issues

where that one issue would prevent you from voting for a candidate,

but when you vote for a candidate It

can't be just because they're pro -life or just because they're against same -sex marriage.

They could have a host of other issues.

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What is in your opinion the best ministry that a young married couple could pursue in

light of either a red wave or a blue wave.

Regarding election results what a blue wave instead of a red wave outcome impact that

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So let me repeat that it's an interesting question and what opinion.

What is in your opinion the best ministry that a young married couple could pursue

in Light of either a red wave or a blue wave regarding election results.

When they say perhaps Matthew if you could clarify what you mean because I'm not sure what he

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I'm assuming that means the couple themselves.

Being involved in many ministerial activity.

Yeah, I think so.

I preached on this Sunday morning

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We have Bobby in Hartsdale, New York.

He says one thing that troubles me is when I see

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conservative and they are involved in political talk shows and

they have warm fuzzy conversations with those on the other

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One example is Harold Ford jr.

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Democrats who accuse us of being Nazis and have nothing good to say to us.

But at the same time there's something that makes me sick to my stomach to see as subject

like abortion.

Being treated like it is a trivial issue.

Should we have these kind of relationships and conversations with those that believe in child murder?

Understand

the

nature

of the

question,

but I

appreciate

the man's

question.

Thanks

for

the

excellent

question.

And you just said something that I'd like your clarification on.

You said that we can't be close to these people.

But what if it's your spouse?

There are people who have come to Christ After they were already married and they their spouse may

still have these horrific views in favor of child murder.

Could be your child your adult child.

Could be a sibling.

Could be one of your parents.

How do you not have a close relationship with them?

Okay,

we

have

a.

Listener Ronald in Eastern Suffolk County, Long Island.

Who says as?

Calvinists, we know that God is in total sovereign control over

all things that take place including the election of evil

wicked and monstrous people after election day.

When we are watching with bated breath to see who has won these

elections on the television How are we as Calvinist Christians.

To encourage fellow believers if one after another unlike what we may be

thinking will happen the evil are continually over and over

again being elected into office and Those that share with us

biblical values are crushed.

How do we encourage them using the sovereignty of God in such cases.

They explain

in

office.

I

think

if

the

Democrats

continue

to

control

cause

God is

sovereign

He wants me to have more time to witness

Democrats in.

It's because he wants me to witness and testify more zealously.

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What do you think is the largest reason before I go to any of our listener questions?

I just have to know this from you from your vast knowledge of the scripture.

What is the the the key reason?

That you believe that Professing Christians in America are

seemingly so ignorant about the the freedom to vote that they

have been blessed with by God himself and Misuse or squander

these opportunities.

What do you think that the largest reason is that a professing Christian does this?

Amen.

We have An anonymous listener who has a very serious question.

Abortion is an issue that radically divides my own household

my own bride.

Believes in abortion.

I married this dear, but misguided woman before we were married.

I'm before we were Christians.

I'm sorry and Now that we that I am saved.

We are in constant disagreement Over these political issues.

How does a husband?

Fulfill the role of being a leader in the home When he allows his

wife to vote as she pleases even when it involves sinners sinister and.

Horrifically

satanic

things

such as

abortion.

That's the

one thing

you'd never

give

up on.

Wow.

That's a great line.

Did you just make that up?

Wow, that's that's great.

I gotta remember that.

Amen.

And I sensed that a part of the anonymous listeners

question Had to do with is a husband a biblically faithful

husband who is head of his home Supposed to Somehow

control how his unbelieving wife votes.

Is that an overstep?

Overreach of one's role as head of the household obviously

politically in America is a Woman's legal right to vote any way she

chooses and if she's an unbeliever, she may not be submissive to her husband.

Anyway, I.

Should

encourage

her.

Yeah,

that's

great.

Now how about a Christian parent.

Who's 18 year olds who can legally vote live under the roof of that parent or

parents.

Christian parents?

Can they say if you are going to?

Live underneath my roof.

You are not going to vote for Democrats.

Can a Christian do that?

I Depend.

Or should I say should a Christian do that?

Well, I'd like you for a few minutes to describe a book that you've written many years ago.

But it's still in print a book that may be helpful with this whole Conversation

as people leave the live program.

It is with liberty and justice for all Christian politics made simple.

Why don't you tell our listeners about that?

And.

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Well, I'd like you now to conclude with a couple of minutes of summary over what

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minds.

Amen.

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Thank you so much.

Dr. Morpher graph for Living up and surpassing my expectations For being

such a superb guest today.

I want to thank everybody who listened especially those who took the time to write.

I Want to remind you to go out and vote

if you haven't already and prayerfully vote and please do not vote for anyone that is

in support of child murder and In support of same -sex marriage and all these other

abominations, and I want you all to always remember for the rest of your lives That Jesus Christ is a far greater

Savior Than you are a sinner.