March 9, 2021 Show with Dr. Joe Morecraft on “The Forgotten Biblical Principles of Interpretation in the Westminster Confession & the 2nd London Baptist Confession of Faith”

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But we are now welcoming back to the program my dear friend Dr. Joe

Moorcraft, one of my favorite guests to interview.

He is on quite often on the program because I love his interviews so much.

He's an author and pastor of Heritage Presbyterian Church in Cumming, Georgia.

And today we are discussing the forgotten biblical principles of interpretation in the Westminster

Confession and the Second London Baptist Confession of Faith, also known as

the 1689 London Baptist Confession of Faith.

And it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to Iron Trumpet and Zion Radio, Dr. Joe Moorcraft.

Well, as we always do when we have you come back on, for the sake

especially of those who have not heard you on the program before, or even those of our listeners who

have but they just forgot the details on your church Heritage Presbyterian Church in Cumming, Georgia.

Why don't you tell us about that fine congregation?

Well, if

anybody

wants

to find

out

more

about

Heritage

Presbyterian

Church

in Cumming,

Georgia,.

Go to heritagepresbyterianchurch .com, heritagepresbyterianchurch .com.

And by the way, I'm getting people asking me, what is the title of that book

that you mentioned that your new doctor co -authored?

Okay, well, I forgot to mention the full title of the book, Coronavirus and the Leadership of the Christian

Church, a Sacred Trust Broken.

That is by Dr. Ernie Springer.

I'm sorry, not Dr. Ernie Springer, by Ernie Springer, who is the publisher and co -author of

the book.

Dr. Joel Yeager and Dr. Daniel O 'Rourke.

So those three wrote the book together, Coronavirus and the Leadership of the Christian Church, a Sacred

Trust Broken.

And I will keep you updated as to when the three of those gentlemen will be back on the program.

Well, I am delighted to be interviewing a Presbyterian who has a very high view of

the Second London Baptist Confession of Faith.

And obviously, every Presbyterian should, but since it's nearly identical, the

framers of the Second London Baptist Confession of Faith, also known as the 1689

London Baptist Confession of Faith, intentionally duplicated their

confession from the Westminster Confession with the exception of issues regarding

church polity and the ordinance of baptism and perhaps a couple of other things.

But they are nearly identical purposely.

And I know that some have jokingly said that it was one of the greatest

examples of plagiarism in the history of the church.

But it's not really plagiarism because it was open and out front what they were doing.

They weren't taking credit for work that wasn't theirs.

But one thing that I really enjoy about you, Joe, and I would say this is

true for most of my Presbyterian friends and brothers, but there is an element of

snobbery, I've got to admit, amongst many of the Presbyterian folks,

some of whom refuse to even call us Reformed Baptists.

They will say we have no right to that title, Reformed.

And the irony is they'll say, well, you can call yourself Calvinistic Baptists.

I always find that odd because we have more disagreement with John

Calvin's personal views than we

do with historic Reformed theology, which is much broader.

So that doesn't make much sense to me.

But I believe that if our confessions are nearly identical, there is absolutely nothing wrong with using a

helpful nickname like Reformed Baptist.

What are your thoughts on that?

Well, Jim

Renahan, he's a

friend

of

mine,

actually.

I've interviewed him many times, and he is the president of the IRBS Theological Seminary in Texas.

He,

well,

I...

Yes, anytime you have either spoken

or especially written down what you believe, it is a creedal statement,

no matter what you call it.

To say that we only have the Scriptures as our one and only

creed, that is a creedal statement.

It is.

And both of those confessions make it clear that they do not believe.

Those writings in the confessions are on par with the Bible.

No, they do.

In fact, I have heard it said, and I believe it is very true,

that if you are going to be logically consistent in condemning confessions,

then your pastor, or if you are a pastor, when you ascend into your pulpit,

you should just open up the Bible, read it, and then sit down without any further commentary.

I wish some preachers would just do that.

In fact, I had...

He is still my friend, but we disagree on matters like this.

He is also anti -Calvinist, but he was mocking

the fact that the congregation where I'm a member is a Reformed Baptist church who adheres to the 1689

London Baptist Confession, and he said, oh, we don't need any man -written books like your Confession of

Faith.

We just have the Bible.

And I said to him, I was your advertising agent

for the radio program that you host with about 10 other independent fundamentalist

Baptists.

The Fundamental Baptist Forum was a radio program that I actually helped create, and I was the advertising rep

that placed that program on a radio station where I worked.

And I said, you have a manual that is very detailed in things

that must be believed by any pastor that participates as a host.

They had a revolving host.

They had revolving hosts that would take turns hosting the program.

And I said, you have a very detailed manual on who is qualified to be a host of

the Independent Fundamentalist Baptist Forum.

And this book of yours, this manual, is about 20 times the size of the

second London Baptist Confession.

I said, this is your Confession of Faith, whether you call it that or not.

And I even was at, years ago, I was at a Church of Christ congregation that was having a Bible conference,

and the speaker was saying that we here at the Church of Christ, we have no creed

but Christ and no confession but the Scriptures.

And I said, excuse me, during the question and answer session, I said, excuse me, I picked up a tract

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exclusive a cappella worship, that you baptize by immersion of believers only, that

your ministers do not wear clerical robes and collars

but only wear business suits, and that you only have men in the ministry, and I could go

on and.

On and on.

I said, I don't know if you folks realize this or not, this is your Confession of Faith.

It's exactly right.

And you can find people...

Congregationalists?

And Congregationalists.

Yes, sir.

The

Anabaptists,

I

should

add

the

London

Baptists,

abbreviated,

but...

In fact,

could

you

pick

up

right

where

you

left

off

there?

Yeah.

Because we have to go to our first break.

I don't want to interrupt you mid -sentence.

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interpretation that we glean from the Westminster Confession of Faith and the Second London

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And we are addressing the forgotten biblical principles of interpretation in the Westminster Confession and the Second London

Baptist Confession of Faith.

If you have a question, our email address is chrisarnzen at gmail .com, chrisarnzen at gmail .com.

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Uh, right before the break, you were warning Southern Baptists about their president, uh, John

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I know, but that shows you how far...

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Yeah.

Yeah, when

you say, uh,

and

we will go

into

these

principles,

uh, any minute

now, um,.

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And Dr. Moorcraft, you were just concluding your first

principle that you wanted to mention before the break.

Yes, sir.

We

have

a

Bible

that

says

that

means

he's

drawing

a

conclusion.

No grammar.

John Calvin is not.

And John's Old

Testament in the

Messianic Prophecy,

the rebuilding

of the temple to literally

be the

tabernacle of death.

And so that's the way.

That is a difficulty.

And

you

sought

to

interpret

the

Holy

Spirit.

We believe you.

Why should we believe your claims that you're the son of God incarnate of the Messiah?

Man, you're talking to witnesses that can

corroborate each other and to establish something as truth.

But I'm not your ordinary man.

I'm God in human flesh.

In fact, we got to go to our last break right now.

And if anybody wants to join us, send in your question immediately, because we're rapidly running out of time.

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We'll be right back after these messages.

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Welcome back.

And we have an anonymous listener who has a question for Dr. Joe Moorcraft.

And he says, or she, Dr. Moorcraft, I have

become more and more in disagreement with my own pastors at the church where I am a

member, especially in the area of eschatology.

But if what you have been saying is true, that there are not many different interpretations of any

text in the Bible, if we all have the same Holy Spirit indwelling us, and we are

all truly seeking after truth, why do these divisions exist?

Why are there Presbyterians and Reformed Baptists?

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even amongst Reformed Baptists themselves disagreements of their own?

Why is it that the perpiscuity of Scripture is really true, that those who are truly born

again and led by the Spirit are still coming up with different conclusions?

That

is

a...

We do, but we're not going to take them.

We're going to have to wait until the next time you're on, because we just don't have time.

But that's all they believe.

I don't call them that.

Obviously, you love the five points of Calvinism, but you're saying...

Oh, I love the five points of Calvinism.

Yeah, that refuted Arminianism.

Right.

Five points of Calvinism

is simply the same.

Well, we're out of time, actually.

And your website for Heritage Presbyterian Church in Cumming, Georgia is heritagepresbyterianchurch

.com, heritagepresbyterianchurch .com.

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