March 23, 2018 Show with Steve Martin on “The Pastors We Need & Preparation & Training for the Gospel Ministry”

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This is Chris Arnson, your host of Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, wishing you all a happy Friday on this 23rd

day of March 2018 and I find it hard to believe that in all the years I

have known about my guest, I have never had him on Iron Sharpens Iron Radio until today.

In fact, I wanted to boost the ratings of my program and tell the world that Steve Martin

is my guest today just to see how many people would listen in and log in to the

website to listen.

The Steve Martin I am referring to is not the wild and crazy guy, but he is the

coordinator of the Association of Reformed Baptist Churches of America, very commonly known as

ARBCA, and he is the Dean of Students at the new IRBS

Theological Seminary, IRBS standing for the Institute for Reformed Baptist Studies,

IRBS Theological Seminary in Texas with classes beginning, God willing, in September

of 2018.

And today, Steve is going to be speaking on the theme, The Pastors We Need and

Preparation and Training for the Gospel Ministry, and it's my honor and privilege to welcome you for the very first time to Iron

Sharpens Iron Radio, Steve Martin.

And you are actually not only heavily and highly

recommended to be my guest for quite a while from Mike Gaydosh, my very first pastor,

after being reborn that is, and other Reformed Baptists whose names you'd

be familiar with, but also the owners of one of my sponsors here on Iron Sharpens Iron Radio,

the Cumberland Valley Bible Book Service, CVBBS, Todd and Jennings have been urging me to interview for

quite some time as well.

And well, before we go into the testimony,

because as you know, I like to have my first time guests give a summary of

their testimony of salvation, the providential circumstances the Lord used in their lives to

bring them to salvation, and also what kind of religious upbringing you

had, if any, and not only how you were led to Christ and saved, but how you came to the

doctrines of grace.

But before we go to the testimony, let our listeners know something about the Association of Reformed

Baptist Churches of America.

Yes, you just brought me back in time when I recall our dear brother

who's now in eternity with Christ, David Straub, from the

former Reformed Baptist Mission Services.

I can remember him very clearly visiting the church where I was a member, where I was

saved, Calvary Baptist Church of Amityville at that time, which later became Grace Reformed Baptist Church of Long

Island in Merrick, New York, but I can still remember that dear brother visiting from time to time to give us

updates on what was going on in the mission field in regard to the doctrines of grace and also preaching, very,

very powerful and gifted preacher he was.

Yes, he was.

And then, by the way, I don't know if you're aware of this, so you probably are, Leon Blosser is now back here in the States and is a member

here at Grace Baptist Church in Carlisle.

Well, that'd be great.

In fact, his granddaughter and her husband and children live right across the hallway from where I'm sitting

right now in the Iron Sherpins Iron Radio studio.

And now, before also we go into the testimony, tell us something about the

IRBS Theological Seminary, which is a very exciting new

institution that will be established officially, God willing, in September of 2018, or

officially launching and starting this semester.

If you could, tell us about that.

Well, we will be continuing to give our listeners updates on IRBS Theological Seminary,

and hopefully I will, God willing, have every one of the faculty members as

guests on the program, and I look forward to that.

We've already had Dr. Jim Renahan on the program a number of times, and we hope to have him

back again.

But I am very excited about this project, and I received an invitation from

Judy Rogers on behalf of IRBS Seminary to

conduct a live broadcast on the campus on the inaugural

celebration of the Seminary.

So I hope, God willing, to be able to get down there to Texas to do that.

And exactly where in Texas is it?

Well, for you folks who are interested in investigating the

IRBS Theological Seminary and finding out more about it, you can go to

irbsseminary .org, irbsseminary .org, don't forget to put two

S's there back to back, irbsseminary .org.

And also, if you want to find out more about the Association of Reformed Baptist Churches of America, ARBGA,

especially if you are looking for a church home, because they do have a directory of

churches all over the United States that belong to ARBGA, but you can go to that

website, which is arbca .com, arbca .com.

Well now let's hear your own personal testimony of how you came to

faith in Christ and what kind of religious atmosphere, if any, you were raised in,

and the providence of God in your life and how he brought these things to

be.

And then of course, even on top of that, how you eventually came to discover and embrace the doctrines of

Sovereign Grace.

First

of

all,

we were

just the

seniors,

it

was

kind of

like

the

inmates

were

running an institution, actually.

Freshman year, I moved in and did a kegger and show what used to be called blue

movies,

a show that made you a wild kid, but now there's all kinds of drugs all over the place and

orgies, and

about which end

is

up and

why, people

to vote

for him,

Eugene

McCarthy,

he's a

nice

guy, and

he says

nice

things

and

has a

nice

platform,

you

seem to

have

a different quality of life about you.

I'm a Christian, Jesus Christ

is my

Savior and Lord, I

serve

him, and

I'm

standing

at a street corner, and

they go,

witnessing, and

I go, what's

that, and she

told me, I go, gross,

that's like the Hari

Krishnas, talent show.

I lived on the Ohio River, she lived up on Lake Michigan, I drove 300 miles in a snowstorm to pick her up,

we drove around the southern tip of Lake Michigan and Chicago, just like she

said,

and

since

this

was a

day,

just

like

that,

so.

The old running out of antifreeze trick, huh?

Exactly.

You

know what

you think,

and it

can do

for

you

that

nobody

else

can,

but

make

money, and that didn't seem enough to fill up your soul.

Master

of the

universe,

talking

about

God

because

he,

the

dead,

he and

the Father

sent the Holy Spirit to make people be different, to give them the new birth, to help them to live a different life.

I got that, and then as a typical campus crusade vehicle, Bill Bright

closes with, this is what you might want to pray if you're sincere, and become a Christian, so he goes

to my fraternity brothers, and the word was out, Martin was different,

came to graduate, well what do you want to do with your life?

Well, I was teaching Bible studies, and witnessing, and taking guys to events, and

boy, if I could be paid to do this, this would be wonderful.

Through

Romans, I

realized

I

had

not

understood

this, so I

had

to

say,

I

love

you

guys,

but so long, I need to follow what the Lord's teaching me, so

I left campus crusade in 1977, over the doctrines of grace,

because they were so precious, and the Christian life was so much larger, so much bigger, so much more

dynamic, so much more beautiful.

Praise God.

Yes, a very dear friend of mine, Pastor Josh Fryman, who is

currently pastoring on Long Island, New York, Community Baptist Church of Riverhead, but he has just accepted a call

to North Dakota to pastor.

He, when I first met him, not that long ago, maybe six or seven years ago,

was an Arminian, although he never would have used that phrase, or that term,

Arminian, he was at least a four -point Arminian, and he was a King James only

fundamentalist, and now he is a full -blown five -point Calvinist,

a thoroughgoing believer in the doctrines of sovereign grace, and one of the key instruments that God

used was someone who Dr. Barnhouse mentored, that's James Montgomery

Boyce, his own series on Romans, I think it may have been

either a tape series or a written series on the book of Romans that the late Dr. Boyce

did, but that was what God used to lead him to the doctrines of grace.

Yeah, and just out of curiosity, I have an old friend, although I haven't seen or spoke with him in a number of years, but

he is a Reformed minister who came out of Campus Crusade

for Christ as well,.

Bill Malick, does that name sound familiar to you?

It's hard to imagine.

He's almost seven feet tall, and I'm not even exaggerating.

Well, I would think, I would hope I would remember that.

They did have a basketball team.

That I don't know.

I just know that his history was with Campus Crusade for Christ, and he then at

some point, although he was a Reformed Baptist, he went to seminary at the

Covenanter Seminary in Pittsburgh, the Reformed Presbyterian Seminary.

We have to go to our first break right now, and when we return, I have been asked by one of my sponsors, who is

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Youth for Christ or Campus Crusade, when he shortened C .S. Lewis options

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It is a hilarious story, especially the way he tells it, so if you could tell that when we come back, that would be great.

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But...

Ricky...

Stop!

That

scene

where one and

the spirit...

Now there are a lot of things that...

Look

at

the...

Well, I

wish I

could remember every foible that Mike Gadosh preached.

Because I used to edit his sermons for a radio broadcast and there were

quite a number of times when I didn't even realize what he had said until I was editing the recording.

Well, now we have reached the point where you are a reformed Christian

and you obviously had a call that you believe God placed on your heart

to enter into the ministry, which I think is something valuable for us to hear.

Since the primary subject matter that we are going to be addressing with you is the pastors we need in the preparation and

training for the gospel ministry.

Tell us about the circumstances involving you knowing that God had put that call on your life.

Not long after I came to see...

Has the will to be somebody, so to speak.

I've been married since...

So I've been married and...

To see you go to seminary...

That's where D .A. Carson is, correct?

...didn't know me, but I knew who he was because of my small college and...

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Before the break, as you may remember, Steve, you were at the point when you were having an inward

battle over whether or not to enter into the pastoral ministry or enter into the academic

realm, I believe, and you.

Were

reading

Jerry

Bridges

and you

were

reading

John

Owen.

Something

foolish.

Chapter

of

that

book, lectures

at Oxford

University to

make

thinking non

-Christians know

the gospel is a learned lecture.

And so that that didn't come to anything or smart evangelicals write big fat books of apologetics,

books of

apologetics, practically none.

And so evangelicals come up with their

substitutes in the

preaching, being

in the gospel

institution and drunkenness.

And he said, I want to go to a place where there's no explanation.

That's his job

as a doctor

to

pay

them.

And

he

began

to

preach

the

gospel

and

within

the logical manipulation,

relying upon God, the Holy Spirit to honor the preaching of the word of his son.

Amen.

We have a listener with a question who is actually a mutual friend of both of ours.

So I'm getting a lot of friends here writing in today.

It seems Marcus McKnight, also known as Mike McKnight, who is actually my attorney

here in Carlisle, Pennsylvania.

And a dear brother.

Yes.

He says, I consider Steve a good friend who taught pastors in Log Cabin, Georgia

to training men for the ministry in Texas.

How does the current opportunity strengthen men for the challenges of the ministry in our

diverse country?

And I'm assuming he is.

Emphasizing

the

fact

that

our

country

is diverse.

Okay.

Wow.

Technically

accurate,

but

our

Conrad and Bayway or Barton

Roy Jones

or Donald

Barnhouse or James

Montgomery Boyce, ours

is a good place

to do diversity.

When we moved here from Atlanta, having lived in the

South,

and he

has

a

small

church

of

40 people, but then he goes across the border from El Paso into Juarez and has

hundreds of Latinos, hundreds of Mexicans who are coming to the doctrines of grace and think of him as

kind of the Johnny Appleseed.

He's not exciting.

Well, thank you very much, Mike, otherwise known as Marcus McKnight there in

Carlisle, or should I say here in Carlisle, Pennsylvania.

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We're going to our final break.

It's going to be very, very brief.

And Steve, I've already forwarded to you a question from a listener in

Slovenia.

Joe in Slovenia has sent in a question, and you can mill that over when we go to our break.

And I'll bring it up to you when we return with our final 25 minutes or so of content of

the interview.

So don't go away, everybody.

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Association of Reformed Baptist Churches of America and the dean of students at the new IRBS Theological

Seminary in Texas.

We are discussing the pastors we need in preparation and training for the gospel ministry, and we have

Joe in Slovenia who says, Dear Brothers Chris and Steve, for at least the past two decades

we have seen a dramatic decrease in the level of theological training and practical ministry experience

among international missionaries prior to arriving on the foreign field.

The results have been catastrophic.

The churches, and he puts that in quotes, they plant or replete with heresy and

heterodoxy.

They are unable to articulate or teach sound doctrine, nor refute those who

introduce error.

What is your commitment to correct the situation through the pastors we need in preparation and training for the

gospel ministry?

Will the pastors you intend to train be able to minister in such a way that their churches will produce doctrinally

sound and spiritually fit missionaries for the global mission fields?

Thank you both for your dedicated ministry in our Lord's Kingdom.

All right, Joe,

that is

very...

No

offense to Paul Simon.

And

only

in

America,

you

see

a

church

there,

colleges

and

seminaries.

This

is

what

evangelicalism

is going to be down the road because this is what these young men are being taught now,

doctrine, and the big movement around the retrieval of

doctrines that have become passe, not because they were disproved, but because people just didn't teach them anymore.

And so we're going to be teaching things that some men haven't heard about in their churches from their pastors, but are

nonetheless historic Christianity.

Praise God.

Yes, something

that you.

Said reminded me of something that a friend of mine, who is also a mutual friend of Dr.

Jim Renahan, Dr. James R. White of Alpha Omega Ministries, who I actually just

yesterday heard him refer a caller on the dividing line.

He has his own program twice a week, The Dividing Line, and he referred a caller to Jim Renahan

in regard to a question about the 1689 London Baptist Confession and said very wisely

that Dr. Renahan is probably the most knowledgeable person alive right now in regard to the

Second London Confession.

But Dr. White had said, if you really love your wife,

wouldn't it shock someone or wouldn't it shock everyone that knows you if you didn't know

a lot about her, if you didn't know what color her eyes were, if you didn't know what her favorite foods were and

what her least favorite foods were and what her favorite hobbies were and activities and on and on

and on you could go, if you just had a very surface level knowledge of your own

wife, her name and some rudimentary things about her,

wouldn't it be a sign that you really didn't love her?

And the same thing goes along with Christ.

If you just have a very basic, simplistic understanding of him and have no interest in digging deeper, that

is a sign you don't really love him.

Wouldn't you agree with that?

Yes, and we have RJ in White Plains, New York who says,

I think I may have misunderstood something your guest said when he was contemplating

entering into the Christian ministry.

I thought I heard him say that he heard an audible voice saying, feed my sheep.

Do Reformed Baptists hear audible voices?

Yeah, you better clarify that before Joy Behar starts mocking you on The View.

So yeah,

there we

go.

Feed

my sheep

was very

audibly clear to me.

Now, it's a Bible verse.

I

know

what the Bible

verse means,

I believe.

That's

not who

I am or

who we

are.

Do we know for certain in regard to Augustine when he heard pick up and read, are we

certain that it was children saying that or is that just a possibility of how he

heard that?

Well, we

are

not

mystics.

I'm sure you didn't.

And we have, let's see here, CJ from Lindenhurst, Long

Island, New York, who said, excuse me, who says,

I'm sure you join me in rejoicing when we see Christians and especially perhaps

pastors from denominations outside our own orbit of fellowship

that have come to embrace the doctrines of grace.

But the thing that I have noticed is that even though this is a cause for celebration,

it is often introducing new challenges to we who are in confessionally reformed

churches when you have different churches and denominations and fellowships who

believe in the doctrines of grace but have other baggage that they have brought with them that would be

something outside the realm of what we are used to or what we believe is biblically true.

How do you address this interesting phenomenon in our day and age?

That's a very good question because I've noticed the same thing myself.

I think that there's a difference, the big difference between, for instance, a reformed Baptist who

becomes a charismatic, there's a big difference between that and a charismatic who discovers the

doctrines of grace and maybe in a certain stage in his life and his

sanctification where he has not let go of charismatic beliefs and maybe he never will.

But how do you address that and how do you deal with.

It and

so

on?

Okay,

that's

a

different

city

anyway.

Amen.

Yes, I

have

two

friends,

one

who

is

still.

With us on this earth and one who is spending eternity with Christ now.

My friend Jim Capo, who's the pastor of the Massapequa Church of God, who is a pastor

in a Pentecostal denomination but he's a full -blown five -point Calvinist and there is

really hardly anything that he would disagree with us on.

He is really a reformed Baptist who believes in theory it is possible for the

signed gifts to exist.

My other friend Al Stein, when I first met him, he was Arminian, he was a pastor in

assemblies of God and not only a pastor but he was a bishop, an

overseer, and when I first met him, as I said, he was Arminian and

the last, I would say, seven years at least of his life before he

tragically died in a car accident, he was a full -blown Calvinist as well and

the Pentecostal or charismatic side of his life became very minimal and almost

non -existent and he actually told me, not long before he went home to be with the Lord,

he told me that he hardly disagreed with anything that was said at the

strange fire conference that John MacArthur orchestrated there in California at Grace Community

Church.

He said that the only thing he disagreed with, he said that he thought that there was a little bit too much broad brushing

but he said, other than that, I agreed with about 99 of everything said.

So you never know what the Lord's going to do with people regardless of.

What

denomination

they're

in.

Amen.

In

fact, I guess

you just

answered

this

question but

Arnie

in Perry County, Pennsylvania

said, do

you welcome

students

that are

not Baptist or

reformed?

Well,.

If you could Steve, in about a minute's time, just summarize what you most want etched in the.

Hearts and minds

of our listeners today.

Well then, how are men going to hear?

Give half of it to Iron Sharpens Iron.

Well,

Steve, I

definitely

want to have you back on the program very

soon so if you could hang on.

The line, I want to invite you back for another interview so we can even plunge

back into this same subject which we only scratched the surface of and perhaps even explore other topics.

So if you could hang on, I'll be with you in a second after we go off the air.

I want to thank everybody who listened today, especially those who wrote in questions.

Don't forget that the Institute for Reformed Baptist Studies Seminary or IRBS

Seminary can be found at irbsseminary .org, irbsseminary .org,

and the Association of Reformed Baptist Churches of America website is arbca .com,

arbca .com.

I hope you all always remember for the rest of your lives that Jesus Christ is a far greater Savior than you are a sinner.