"Let's talk theology, BLM, and politics" with guest Pastor Ken Fontenot

Hermeneutics and the Meaning of “Perpetual”

Can you show me because we're gonna use some hermeneutics. Can you show me anywhere in the Old Testament where that word perpetual is not perpetual because again, I understand you're appealing again. Sure, you know.

Wait a minute, I thought I was gonna get to have a talk. You asked a question. Hang on a second, sir.

Be quiet. Okay. Well, there you go. I will mute you because it's not your show. You asked a question I'm gonna give you the answer. Genesis 6 for the word Olam is used referring to those who are of old Deuteronomy, I'll get just rattle off all the ones where it's used not referring to perpetual Genesis 6 for Deuteronomy 32 7 Joshua 24 to 1st Samuel 27 8 Job 22 15 Psalm 247 24 9 25 6 41 13 77 9 90 verse 2 103 verse 17 106 verse 48 119 52 1 feet of 43 3rd verse 3 Proverbs 8 23 Proverbs 22 28 Proverbs 23 10 and Ecclesiastes 110.

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Opening Banter and Introductions

And we are live apologetics live here and who's in the house. We got a dr. Silvestro here. All right, we are together. It's only because I got the lights on now that I got light in this room. He wanted to come and see it.

So. So we're we are live together. Yeah get closer your mic down. So tonight we're gonna have a little bit of a different show. We're gonna talk politics like we've never talked about that before but we're gonna have a very interesting guest and you know I don't know.

Should we should we before we bring him in? Should we show what he his dress code?

Oh, yeah, you should show. You should show. Um, you should show something from his dress. Yeah from his closet.

We should we'll do a team one first. Okay. So for those who are watching here Here's our guest in he and his wife in a nice blue blazer. That doesn't that doesn't look too. You know striking where it's no.

No that looks kind of team but I'm sure later on we're gonna have some more suits that he wears and preaches in that might be um, Flashy. Yeah. Yeah, I can't pull off what he can pull off. I admit it but This is I we should actually introduce ourselves.

I'm Andrew report. Dr. Anthony Silvestro striving for eternity. This is apologetics live. If you have any questions on what we talked about tonight or just anything.

I just I just suck. I just saw a comment. Six feet y 'all.

We don't have quite yeah, we don't have coronavirus so it's okay. Oh, oh, you know what? I think I have a mask here somewhere I could wear no. Yeah, this is this is the mess mostly like okay. I'm wearing my mask.

I haven't worn a single mask. Yeah, he's a rebel. Yeah, John is saying that we're not wearing masks, how dare you John. If I did have coronavirus, I would want to be right if I if I had to fight chickens all day.

I might wear a mask. Yeah. Yeah, that scares me more than coronavirus. So.

The the tonight show we're gonna talk politics. But you can feel free to go to apologetics live comm and we'll look to answer any question that you have. Because I don't know is a perfectly good answer so I can answer any question that you have.

But let's bring in. We got two pastors here. First. We'll bring in the guest pastor Ken. Formal. Fun. Well, no, he's got. You gotta have the French accent. I think you know.

So pastor Ken, how are you? I am doing great. Oh glad to be here with you guys always a good time.

No, it's been too long since we've seen you. I think it yeah. Back in April's last time we were all together in person, right? Yeah.

Wow, it's been way too long. Yeah longer because this whole COVID thing is coronavirus brain. Yeah. Yeah. No. Someone wants you to eat the microphone Anthony. Notice I just want for the record Anthony still got a microphone that matches his shirt.

All right, just for. So he probably purposely wore black just for that all right, so maybe we want to talk politics and and lots of things lots of things we. You will give people warning though. You do have just a couple of kids running around in your house.

So your things. They're energetic. So. So what for folks who you know introduce where you're from. The I keep looking this way because that's where the camera used to be. Now. I got to look over here.

So if you could introduce yourself for folks your church you pastor and you know, you're now you used to be a Had a different job as well as pastoring so you found a few I mentioned that what you used to do and How you used to do that and some of your degree and things like that go forth.

Cool.

Pastor Ken Fontenot’s Background and Ministry

Well, my name is Ken Fondo. I'm the pastor of Bethel Baptist Church in Wilson, North Carolina. I became a born-again believer in August 18th, 2004. Shortly thereafter. I felt God's leading me in the United States Marine Corps Where is a really I gained a lot of the basic skills for a leadership in life and In 2010, I was called to the ministry in 2014 is When I took over and was ordained into the current ministry.

I'm at been here about seven years so what started off as a small ministry, we still are and maybe 10 to 14 members now, we're like 40 ish and Was a bivocational ministry so up until July of this year I worked as a sixth grade social studies teacher.

I've got bachelors of history bachelors in pastoral study masters in public administration masters in teaching and learning masters in counseling and doctoral studies in education.

So a little bit about myself. Married with three kids and some people are thanking you for your service here. Atomic pleasure.

Humble clay. So so it sounds like you have more initials after your name than letters in your actual name.

Yeah, I was a glutton for punishment for a long time. I'm finally no longer in college. But that's fine because I'm becoming more productive.

With other things I Think I'm good with the degrees for now. Yeah, absolutely. Well, I mean you certainly have a lot of credentials. So.

Well, you know, it takes a certain it does take a certain man Anthony to be able to preach at a pulpit. Dressed like that. That's right. Look at this folks. Right yellow. So this is you know, it just almost looks like anything.

I don't if you remember the century 21. Oh Wow. Yellow jacket that stood out, but he's actually preaching at a pulpit with that suit on.

Master Ken forgot to say he has a master's in fashion design. Yes, so we're gonna.

Cuz he can pull that off today. I.

Would pull that off. Yeah, it's great. So, you know, can I what I wanted to start off with? Thank you for coming on today. I was I was so excited in reaching out to you to be able to get you on the show.

We should have had you on a lot sooner, honestly but. We met for any for. Yeah, we met in California at us at Academy. Yeah. Yeah, so you were on my team and so, uh, you know and Andrew and I we both help lead teams.

And we combine our teams at our best Academy so people can see the best of both of us. 90 me 10 Andrew and.

And the reason for that is because my 10 equals his 90 so. That's that's keeping it equal. That's common core math right there.

No, I don't seriously know, you know, we want people to be able to see both of our styles and and have Just get more experience that way and so, you know, can you were on my team? But of course you benefited from from everybody.

Are you doing apologize atomic apologetics just what read that? For folks who are listening on the podcast You're gonna have to go to the YouTube channel for this one just to see the suits. But but yeah, that was a bright yellow suit.

Yeah.

But so so that's where we met and and I remember actually Talking to you by phone because we are we're supposed to. I don't think everybody does this but I actually call every one of the guys in my team and talk to him.

I talk about expectations all that kind of stuff and You just you floored me. Some of your stories. It's what you explained it more thoroughly while we were actually together in person. One thing that really impressed me about you is is that you evangelize and.

Look when a pastor. Okay, let me let me start here. A church is a pastor's responsibility for his church is to disciple his church train his church up. The number one responsibility for that church when they walk out those doors is to go evangelize the world and.

There's a disconnect between Good preaching even in good churches, right. Good preaching. Versus what is going on in terms of their members going out in the rest of the world and doing other Evangelism and and I've often said the only way you get your church to actually on evangelize is when you have a pastor who's Willing to go on to evangelism and not every night.

It's not even once a week, you know. Get out a few times a year and then talk about it from the pulpit. So that you're setting the stage and you're setting the example for the rest of your congregation.

Well, you go far above and beyond. What almost every pastor does and really with all the work that a pastor has to do. It's amazing to me that you were able to get that much evangelism in so so, okay.

That's for the first story. You have got to share with. Is is the one time you know what I'm talking about the ones that we're going through the the good person test on the street. So so please share that story with the listers.

This is hilarious.

Street Evangelism and the Good Person Test

Okay, so I think it's actually got I know the guy's name and I ran into him again. I'm not gonna drop his name right here. But I was out early. I don't know mid-morning ish and My philosophy was simple.

Nobody was at the door. I'll leave a gospel track if I catch somebody outside. I'll start a conversation. I mean, it's very easy, right? Very black and white either someone will be available to talk or someone won't and most of the morning you catch at least one or Two to talk to you and a lot of times because you're there they will so one day I was talking to this guy.

You know, I always ask people my jump-off question. Do you believe in heaven? And then of course, I'm in a religious area. So most people say yes, then I say well, you know, how do you get there and After they give me whatever answer they give, you know death be a good person blah blah blah this baptism, whatever I usually say well are you familiar with the verse that it's appointed unto men once a die and after this a judgment and Almost 100 of time they're gonna say well, no, I'm not then I'll say well, you know Eternity is a long time.

Do you mind if I share with you how you will be judged wouldn't you want to know and of course? They're typically gonna say yeah sure go for it. And then I will just go from there. It's a thing commandment.

So I'm going to this guy, you know, have you ever lied? Yes. I lied to you. What would I be a liar? So, what are you gonna be in God's eyes you like well liar and then finally we get to that should not kill.

Usually I almost always get people and say no I've never killed anybody. Then I explain how Jesus said hey man hatred is murder. So yes you have but in this day I said hey, have you ever killed anybody?

He paused briefly said yeah. Okay. Well, you know man sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. I'm like, okay I said so bro based on that for you when you die and God judges you according to his righteousness.

Are you gonna go to heaven or hell? And what's interesting is despite all this confesses. He's like well heaven I said, whoa. How do you please give me that back you just said you're a liar thieving blasphemer and you actually have killed somebody like you took Why are you going to have it you please explain that and you know.

We get we hit right there that most common theological area that you know, God is just going to forgive my sins. You know where people forget The payment that Jesus made and that the only reason the only way to accept that payment of Christ He made for us on our behalf is.

You know by faith and that is through Christ alone. So it was a interesting conversation.

Well, you know, I think I told you this in California when we met was I had a similar thing though it was a little different. I was evangelizing the mall and. Stopped the guy asked, you know, do you consider yourself to be a good person?

Are you good enough to go to heaven sound like that? And he said I'm an awesome person. I'm going through. Right and I said, have you ever murdered someone just like you waiting for the. No, so I could say well God's Godstandards so high judges our heart.

He says if we're even angry with someone he judges as murder the heart. That's where I was planning to go. He says yes. So now I'm thinking maybe he does. He's confusing murder and killing. And so I I turned to him and I said, you know.

Are you in law enforcement or military thinking, you know. Maybe he did it in the line of duty and and he turns to me and says they weren't legal killings. We're plural now granted part of me wanted to take a couple steps back.

But I don't know why I did but the Lord did I guess put it on my heart to turn to him and said Let we go back to that very first question. And I said when I asked if you think you're good enough to go to heaven and he goes.

Yeah, I guess it's not sounding too good right now. You know what though someone said they missed the picture of him in his yellow suit. KT that's that's for you so you could see him preaching in his yellow suit.

I mean you and I think actually I were eyewitnesses to that suit in at the pulpit. I think so. You you've done you did two of them. I think I think we saw. We might have saw the yellow.

I know I did the red. Yeah, cuz I had the red and blue. Oh look red white blue day. Yeah.

Angie is saying that your sunshine. So we had a question for you from. From John atomic apologetics. Does pastor Ken do precept?

And you talk about pre and the words my famous doctor friend here priest up a little priest supposition of apologetics.

Actually, no. Longer than the other one knew it. I'll let you figure out.

Never personally gotten into it. I'm not reading books on it. Honestly, I Simply when I talk to people start off with the law. Here where I'm at. You don't get ever into apologetics really because everybody believes in God they say.

Really what I discover is that content of the Bible is lacking like for instance of Ten Commandments one time I was out. I had a guy dealing drugs in front of my church, right? So I go to this guy the holy I'm complaining in my heart and God says why don't you go talking instead of sitting there?

Running your mouth. So okay. I walk out and I go talk to the guy kick up a conversation. We talk start talking about spiritual things. He's willing to talk to me. I was like, okay Are you going to have when you die?

He says he was. I go through the Ten Commandments again, and then he's he's convinced He's forgiven. So then the Lord brought to me Matthew 7 21 through 23 I said, can I ask you a question man? Cuz you just told me you're lying thieving blasphemy you're doing all this stuff.

You should convince you're gonna go to heaven. But I said, did you know? that Jesus said in Matthew 7 There are gonna be people Who I'm judgment they will come to him. They will have cast out demons. They will have done Miracles, they will have worked in ministry all their life and he's gonna look at them and say depart from me.

I Never knew you. Then I said, how would that feel if he were talking to you? And as soon as I said that man that guy flushed white he turned pale his like whole countenance changed and he looked at me and he said Horrible, and he turned around walked away.

I never saw him in front of my church again. Never saw him doing drugs again. He literally disappeared don't know what happened to him. But I just know that the Word of God did what you said he would do so I typically stick in Those verses where Jesus talks about that certainty of salvation.

The law leading to grace. What is grace that basic thing? I never get any anywhere anywhere outside of that room. Yeah, so.

One thing I found fascinating in in terms of your your story and your evangelism is is that For a while you're a bifocational as a pastor and you spent years doing teaching. So tell us a little about your experience.

Teaching is okay, so so just for the listeners understand. Wilson, North Carolina. This is Bible belt, right? This is like like if you look at the belt, this is like the center of the Bible belt. So this is why it doesn't matter if you've you know.

Unfortunately kill some people that you still somehow think that you are Christian, you know as a result of your your upbringing. Right. So how is it being in school as a as a teacher because you had some really unique ways in order to be able to share Christianity with with people.

Teaching World Religions in a Public School

Yeah. So first and foremost, you know when I got my teaching job the Lord told me very plainly and clearly hey I brought you here and When you're done, I'll take you away so I never Took to me. I Find a lot of Christians who are in education Live like their Christianity has to be separated from their job, which is absurd.

That's absolutely ridiculous. If God gave you that job doesn't keep the job for you, right and your job as a Christian is to do excellent. So first and foremost, I did my job excellently for those that doubt it 42 of my kids pastor and the year test when I took the year I took over.

By the first time I had my first year 96 passed, right? So first and foremost because I was good at my job. Nobody bothered me. Okay, I taught 6th grade world history and religions. Which I'm supposed to teach Christianity along with Buddhism Hinduism Islam Mormonism you name it.

I had to teach it so very simple philosophy. We live in an all Christian area. I had some Hindus in a few Islamist Islamist. What I would do is very simple every time I preach a world history Opposite of Christianity I would compare it to Christianity and preach the gospel.

I was like, okay, there are two religions folks. There's a religion of works. These people say you've got to be a good person. This is how you get there. You got your five pillars. You got the fourfold path, whatever.

And then there is the religion of grace, let me tell you what the Bible says and man I just I let her rip in class and it was amazing because I mean I kid you I don't see the Holy Spirit all on. These kids they would start off up here and then as more of that priest it was just like you could see.

It's sinking in like kind of like contemplation was happening captive audience and was amazing is I would do question and answer time any questions about anything I said and Automatically every time I did that class would go over.

We would make it beyond the bell what people like. Oh, I got a question about the Bible. What about this? What about that and these kids would just rip off all these questions about the Bible awesome questions.

And it was it was amazing. So honestly, I just taught what the Bible said. That's it and walked the wisely did my job. Well, and God really blessed it I've seen a lot of kids converted that way a lot of kids.

Who'd never been to church finally hearing what church is about and I had good relationships with all of them and.

Even it was an amazing time. Yeah, I was gonna say that it's almost like that was your church growth methodology because when we were done both time most of the Most of the students more most of the congregation were like your students.

Yeah, yeah. We saw a lot of kids come to church through that and even to the day like when I go around Wilson. Because I was in that class for so long. I know so many people so if you were to look at my network through this town.

Man, I've got a pretty deep network. There's almost nowhere. I can't go and almost no one I don't know in some way shape or form. Well, which allows me to make a big difference and do a lot of things here.

Maybe because you did something else that you're trying to do career wise.

Well before before we get to that though Important concept here. I want to make sure that that gets highlighted and I'm gonna share a quick story on my own In my own dental practice when we had still owned it.

Wait, you were a dentist. Yeah. Yeah at one time still am still am but so When we were on the practice, you know, Julie had after Julie and I got married. She started at the office working front desk and within a year or so She's like, you know, I want to start putting scripture up on the walls.

And I was I was a little more nervous about it right I'm like, how do we do this without offending, you know. Again, this is completely wrong the way I was thinking at the time, right? But it's where I was at.

So, you know you know, what are people gonna think and this and that and and She says, you know, I think about doing it this weekend putting just a couple things up and and I wasn't really too thrilled about it and and Finally okay, you know what you should do it the reality.

She's probably gonna do it anyway. But you know it was she put up scripture on the walls and Next thing we know first person that comes in Monday morning Notices the change and as he's walking in the back says I'm never coming back here again.

Mm-hmm 13 years ago now 12 13 years ago never come back here again. So first patient my worst fears come true, right? And other people noticed it throughout the morning. I had another patient first thing in the afternoon so the exact same thing never coming back here again, and We stuck the course we left left the things up and what was interesting is that God continued to actually bless our office after that.

Sending lots more patients over the years a lot of Christians but the thing that we should always Make sure we understand really well is is what you said about doing your job. Well, right and so People will respect you when you are a respectful person when you do the right job and Those are things that that help gain your and not to be pragmatic.

Right, but just just in the sense that you do it you walk the walk that you are talking. Yeah.

You know, the Bible is very clear, you know, whatever your hand finds to do do it with all your heart mind and soul. I mean that means go above and beyond and that was my what I was known for. I was the only teacher I did home visits.

I tried to visit every kid in my class. I a lot of times I couldn't do it because I taught like a hundred kids. But man every one of those kids I was on their doorstep, you know, I would call kids. I would call parents not just when the kids were good or when their kids were bad.

But when they were good and the parents are like shocked away, why are you calling me? My kid didn't do it. They're like no, he did a great job. I just wanted to let you know and That went so far. So when you distinguish yourself as a believer.

To be the light in the salt meaning that you shine you're right. And your salt you add something to the environment, right? You make it taste better. It opens the door for the gospel through excellence.

How many people that were hostile to the gospel in our office kept coming back though because we gave great service as in dental office. But you know how many times some of those people that were hostile or or at least not wanting to hear it.

Two years later three years later six months later when they had an issue in their lives. Guess what? They're doing picking up the phone calling Julie my wife and to ask her questions about Janity. It was actually honorable to watch that ministry over the years in our office.

So so yeah, it's it really really is cool. So, you know, I I had remembered that about you and you're in your teaching and everything. So great stuff. Okay, so let's let's start getting some more some meat type of stuff.

I'm done. Thank Angie wants what?

I was just gonna say before we go to the next topic. I think we should put up another picture. Oh, yeah. Let's let's save this one for last. We should show his family so here's Family. His wife is wearing a red dress which you know looks fine.

But check out the red suit and matching time. Looks like he's got vendors. They're Great looking kids. It's good that they take after mom, but but check out. There you go. He's even matching the almost matching the red door behind him.

Actually your kid your wife and kids are very sweet. We've yeah the last time I was able to take my wife and son down and they just had a blast hanging out with your Wife and kids. So, you know, we're looking forward to coming down again and visiting you guys.

So yeah.

Where we're planning everything for what we've been talking about with a Institute take our guys their next level. We're working on it. Here's I actually have some more for you probably by tomorrow.

That's great. We'll talk by phone tomorrow then so cool. So as Andrew, I think Andrew wanted to ask the next question about some other aspirations you had. So oh.

Oh those aspirations. Yeah, so so let's get it. So there's another way that you kind of got to know people in the community. Because not only were you pastoring a church. Not only were you teaching full-time and doing more than most teachers and doing home visits and things like that but.

You know, oh wait, look at what he's referring to the suit. That suit is red-hot. Only all of that. But you decided you were gonna try your hand in something else. And for folks who are listening on the podcast.

You have a little bit of melanin in your skin. And you were you were doing something that most Would think you wouldn't do especially with a certain party. What were you what were you trying to do career-wise there?

So.

Political Campaigns, Race, and the Black Vote

2018 I Ran my first time for public office. I ran. Or the North Carolina State House of Representatives. Which for here is an election every two years. I ran as an independent conservative with North Carolina Republican Party backing for here and it was a.

You know, honestly, it was a wonderful learning experience and it you know, it went really well. I ran against a nine-term incumbent extremely liberal Democrats who I almost beat. Because I lost by 400 votes and this was 30 ,000 votes cast now.

This is where I say I did win. Because one we weren't able to do an audit of the votes because there are a lot of dead people that voted and a lot Of people's votes were stolen. I saw this at the poll myself.

But whatever. She had a budget of $100 ,000 given to her by ex-husband. Who's congressman. GK Butterfield and He's the leader of the Congressional Black Caucus another liberal organization and I had a $20 ,000 budget so dollar for dollar.

We crushed her dollar for dollar. I shouldn't come close. But we absolutely positively nailed her and so, you know what my political future looks like. We'll see, you know, there's always something on the horizon.

It's every two years and really once you do the first time it's scaling up after that and deciding What do you really want to do in the long term?

But it was a phenomenal experience. Well, and I know Anthony's got some questions for you. But you know, the the reality is in our current political market people assume or think that If you are black You're by default Democrat.

Yeah, well the even have a guy running for president who says if you're black and you're not.

Not really black so yeah, well, you know, I'm not surprised that people think that because you know what the one thing we learned from history is that people never learn from history and especially our current Democratic nominee Joe Biden.

I'm pretty sure he's pretty ignorant history because you know what people will say. Oh the Democrats have given so much to the african-american community. Well, I would agree in this sense. Yeah, you know the Democrats gave us the KKK the Democrats gave us Jim Crow laws.

The Democrats filibustered the first civil rights bill which came out in Dwight Eisenhower's administration. It was a Democratic governor who stood at the University of Alabama and said segregation now segregation forever.

It was a Democrat gave us a 1964 Great Society bill which destroyed the black family. Then it was Democrats that gave us Roe v. Wade and now Democrats gave us a new Militant wings of their party. Antifa and Black Lives Matter wish to show you that if you do it disagree with them They're gonna try some way to kill you or burn down your neighborhood.

True. I think I'm gonna cut that into a clip. Yeah promo. This is one of the greatest rants.

And we're seeing from different people online that they're they are very thankful for the for that because you know. That's the thing and I dealt with that on my most recent rap report podcast where I asked the question Think of who is the first woman woman female justice and most people think it's Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

Right, but it isn't. It's actually Santa De O 'Connor a 20 and and and that's the whole thing. They end up making a narrative as if like if you're black you you have to vote Democrat and yet the party that's actually Supported the liberties for black people has been the Republicans.

In fact, that's the very the very reason that the Republican Party started. Was over the issue of slavery and freeing slaves that way this party was created for so it's so interesting that the blacks would support the people that Bless you, and I think he's keeping them enslaved in a different way.

They're enslaved. Yes thing on welfare. They're enslaved by keeping them uneducated to keeping them in broken families all for their vote.

Yes, exactly. And that's 100 you follow the scheme, you know. I think what the Democrats have done well is what they always do well, and that's be kleptocrats. They still extremely well I think Democrats have infiltrated public school system and Democrats have definitely infiltrated college.

I mean everybody knows you go to university for the most part. It's gonna be a liberal wing of Ideology and what they've done is lied to people that the Democrats have somehow helped African Americans.

Well, you know if what they have done is helped me then, you know, I don't want their help anymore. You look at 1964 after Lyndon Johnson passed a Great Society Act. What happened? Well black families suddenly instead of having out of wed births out of wedlock births 20 of time.

It became 80 of time. African-american incarceration went up 300 and look at our current Democratic now Pass a three-strikes law which increased black incarceration by like 100 or more. So yeah, this is nonsense.

I mean the only way you become a Democrat as black is Ignorance or you know what intellectual pride because you don't want to admit that what you're doing is wrong has never really benefited you. And it is wrong.

So Atomic apologetics says this the biggest threat for the Democrat Party is the male black vote message of changing thoughts on that pastor, I.

Think the male black vote is Swinging more conservative for instance that crazy chick Stacey Abrams who ran for governor of Georgia. People didn't put put it out there, but she lost because the male black voters went for camp.

That's why she lost when you look at it. It was a long party lines as they expected. But there was someone they swung and he swung successfully male black votes in Georgia. And now you look at more male black conservatives CJ Pearson Kingface the rapper from New York.

You look at Patrick Hampton. You look at the Hodge twins. You look at myself the the male black Conservatives is rising because it doesn't take To have you to have a PhD in Political science to notice that there's a different narrative on TV then it's going on a social media where you can't control it necessarily and Definitely a different narrative what you hear in people's homes.

We're not idiots and when the media continually spins a story I think it has the opposite effect than they attend. They intended to try just oust Trump. I think they only entrenched in my opinion. They are gonna get killed or lose in a landslide this coming November.

Because people aren't stupid get out of here. I mean some of their logic is ridiculous. And so yeah, I think the male black vote is going to destroy the Democratic Party. I think.

I think the only thing I'll keep them from having a landslide is all the meaning that they'll do. Yeah built-in.

Right, well, that's why I think that why they want mail-in ballots, but you know. Every time they try to do the mail-in ballot scam. They somehow don't get them signed properly. Notarized. I think a lot of them are gonna be thrown out.