The Problem With The Charismatic Movement In A Nutshell

Hello ladies and gentlemen, my name is Justin Peters. I hope that you and your family are doing well today. I want to thank you very much for joining me for this podcast, and so many of you have seen at least some of the videos that I've done over the last year or so detailing the massive, massive, undeniable, complete, and total faceplant that all of the charismatic prophets have done in the last year or a little better now.

Now they've all proven themselves to be false prophets many, many times over well before January of 2020, but once January 2020 hit, from January 2020 to January 2021, that calendar year there had the highest concentration of some of the most globally impacting, earth-shattering events that any of us have seen in our lifetimes.

I mean, you could certainly point to things like World War II and Vietnam, and certainly those were obviously huge earth-shattering events, but for such a high concentration of different events, January 2020, January 2021, I don't know, you'd be really hard-pressed to match that.

So great opportunity, right, for the prophets so-called to at least get something right, but they didn't. I mean, they literally got nothing right. So a quick rundown, none of them saw COVID coming, nary one of them did, and then once COVID did come, many of them prophesied that it would go away very quickly and not become a pandemic.

Of course, there's different views on the meaning of that word, but whatever. They decreed it to be gone. They banished it. Well, that obviously didn't work. It's still around. And so they face-planted on COVID.

None of them saw the riots coming after the George Floyd incident. None of them saw the riots coming that ensued and raged in dozens and dozens and dozens of American cities all across the country for months.

I mean, every single day and night for months only, and none of them saw that coming. How do you miss that? None of them saw that coming. None of them saw the riots at the Capitol on January the 6th, 2021.

None of them saw that coming. Remember the Buffalo headdress guy, the guy standing in the Capitol with a big hat shaped like a big bullet with two horns coming out the side? None of them saw that guy coming.

For those of you who are Ray Stephen aficionados, I hope you picked up what I just laid down there. But anyway, how do you miss that? How do you miss that guy? And none of them got the United States presidential election right.

And that is really stunning when you think, oh, and none of them saw President Trump getting COVID. None of them saw that coming. And none of them got the presidential election right. And that was the really big thing.

And that's what has garnered most of the attention in evangelical and secular circles as well. And I suppose for good reason, because here is a monumental event that is planned. I mean, everybody knew the election was coming.

It comes around pretty regular, every four years. And so everybody knew it was coming on November the 4th, 2020, and literally 100 of the charismatic prophets prophesied, not guessed, prophesied that Donald Trump would win the election.

And despite there being issues with the election, and I do believe there were issues with the election, but that's beside the point, they not only prophesied that he would win the election, see, some of them are trying to squirm out and say, oh, well, Donald Trump really won, Joe Biden shouldn't be president.

But they didn't just prophesy that he would win the election. They prophesied that he would serve a second consecutive term. He's obviously not serving a second consecutive term. So, I mean, just an incredible faceplant.

So here you have this massive event scheduled, everybody knew it was coming, and you got a 50 -50 shot at getting it right, just by guessing, and they still got it wrong. And so they brought incredible reproach on the gospel in the name of Christ.

And so Mario Murillo, who is a charismatic prophet, and he is a regular guest on Kenneth Copeland's YouTube channel, The Victory Network, a regular guest there, Mario Murillo put up a video several weeks ago now, and I watched it, and when I watched it, I thought, well, there you go.

That's it. What he says in this video sums up the crux of the issue when it comes to the charismatic movement. What he is about to say, and I'm going to show you, sums up in a nutshell what is so basically and fundamentally wrong with the charismatic movement.

This is the crux of the issue. This is the root of everything that is wrong with the charismatic movement. So I want you to watch this short video from Mario Murillo. I'll interrupt in a few places, a few points to offer some commentary as we progress.

But again, so this is a video of Mario Murillo, and he is going to try to explain away what happened with the prophetic failure and how this is not really the most serious issue that we're dealing with here.

So watch this from Mario Murillo.

The Prophetic Failure of the Charismatic Movement

Hi, this is Mario Murillo, and I have a very important message for you. Did the prophets fail by predicting that Donald Trump would serve a second term as president of the United States? That is swirling through the body of Christ right now because of everything that's going on.

And I have several feelings about it, but I want to be careful that I divide emotion with fact. Let's begin. Many prophets said that Donald Trump would win this election when he says many. What he means by that is all of them said that.

And it's not again, for instance, it's not just an educated guess. They prophesied that 100 of them. I almost wish I had predicted that. To be honest with you, I did not. That is a stunning statement.

Mario Murillo is correct. He did not actually prophesy that Donald Trump would win and serve a second consecutive term. He did guess that he was and he was very much believing the other prophets who did so, but he himself did not prophesy that.

But even now, well, well after the election, well, well after Biden's inauguration and into his second term, Mario Murillo actually says he wishes that he had. He wishes that he had joined the other false prophets in their false prophesying.

That is a stunning statement. That is almost incomprehensible to me. He actually wishes that he had done that, I guess, so he too could be counted amongst the false prophets and incur the kind of judgment that the Bible says that they will incur.

That is just a stunning statement.

I said I believed it, but I never said thus saith the Lord like many have. But I do feel that we are in dangerous territory if we reject it out of hand at this moment. It is not yet time for you to do that.

Yeah, it is actually. Again, friends, we are way past the election. We are way past the inauguration. Joe Biden is well into his term, disastrous as though it is. Yeah, it is time.

We should be possessed of a much larger issue, and I will get back to the issue of that prophetic word in a moment. Here is the larger issue. We need to face the fact that something has happened that we have to confront.

So, dear ones, here we are about to hear from Mario Murillo what is, in his view, a larger issue than whether or not the prophets got their prophecies about Donald Trump right. What you are about to hear is, in a nutshell, what is fundamentally wrong with the entire Charismatic movement.

Here we go.

The True Priority Is Not Prophecy but the Election

Now, what should be possessing the body of Christ at this moment is not whether or not these prophets are right, but whether or not an election has been stolen, whether or not America is now under siege.

That should be on the mind of all of us. That should occupy our thinking. That should galvanize our unity. That should energize all of our efforts.

And there you have it, dear ones. That right there, in a nutshell, is exactly what is wrong with the Charismatic movement. What is most important is not whether or not the prophets got it right, not whether or not the prophets falsely prophesied, put words in God's mouth that He did not say.

That's not the big issue, you see. The real big issue is whether or not the election has been stolen. That's what is most important. That is what should be galvanizing the church right now. That's what's wrong with the Charismatic movement, in a nutshell.

Am I happy that Joe Biden is sitting in 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue right now? Nope, I'm not happy about it, not nary a bit. I didn't vote for Joe Biden, but you know what? I understand Romans 13, and I understand God's sovereignty and His providence, and all of this is playing out the way God has decreed it to play out.

So I rest in the providence and the sovereignty of God. I don't like the fact that Joe Biden's in the White House. I seriously doubt he's going to do a single thing with which I agree, however long he serves.

But that's not the biggest issue, but it is according to the Charismatics, you see. With the Charismatics, for these false prophets, it is a bigger issue that the election has allegedly been stolen, and I'm not downplaying those concerns.

I absolutely believe there are legitimate concerns with how the election played out and the nuances of that, but that's not the subject matter of this video. Those things aside, for these false prophets, it is a bigger issue that the election has been stolen than it is that they have brought untold reproach on the name of Christ.

That they have put words in God's mouth that He did not say. That they have made a laughingstock out of Christians. And remember, dear ones, what the world believes about Christianity, it gets from Christian television.

It gets from TBN and Daystar and these televangelists and these false prophets. When the world thinks about Christians and what Christianity is, the world's not looking at people like me or people like John MacArthur or Steve Lawson or Votie Balcombe or Jim Osmond or doctrinally sound guys who believe in the inerrancy and the sufficiency of Scripture.

They're not looking at people like us. They're looking at Christians with the big platforms. The Joel Osteens, the Kenneth Copelands, the Benny Hens, the Joyce Myers, the Beth Moores, and all these other false prophets.

Mario Murillo doesn't have a huge platform, but he's up and coming. Atheists make videos and put them on YouTube mocking these people, mocking these false prophets, rightly so, but they think that that's a fair representation of Christianity.

That's a fair representation of Christ followers, and it's not by any stretch. It is very telling that they think that the election being stolen is a bigger deal. That should galvanize the church far more than whether or not the prophets got their prophecies right, and that's the issue.

They really don't think it's a big deal to falsely prophesy. It's just not a big deal. The election, that's the big deal. I want to read to you a couple of other passages before we conclude here. Psalm 138 verse 2.

We'll begin with verse 1 for context. I will give you thanks with all my heart. I will sing praises to you before the gods. I will bow down toward your holy temple and give thanks to your name for your loving kindness and your truth.

For you have magnified your word according to all your name. You have magnified your word according to all your name. You see, the word of God and the name of God are synonymous. God magnifies his word to the same level, to the same extent that he magnifies his name.

God's words spoke the universe into existence. You cannot divorce the word of God from the name of God. You cannot divorce those things. They are not desperate things. They are not disparate things. They are one and the same.

He magnifies them both, his word and his name, above everything. But the charismatics just don't see it that way. They just don't think it's a big deal to put words in God's mouth that he did not say.

It's not a big deal to them, but it is a big deal to God. In fact, God prescribed the death penalty for false prophets. And if we were still living in Old Testament Israel, if we were still under an Old Testament theocracy, then these people would be put to death.

Thankfully for them, we're living on the other side of the cross. God magnifies his word and his name above all things. That has not changed. That has not diminished. The jealousy that God has for himself, for his name, for his word, has not diminished in the slightest.

Charismatics just don't think it's a big deal. Job said in Job chapter 23 verse 12, I have not departed from the command of his lips. I have treasured the words of his mouth more than my necessary food.

Job treasured the words from God's mouth more than his food, more than his sustenance, more than his very life. That is the view, that is the value that Job placed upon the word of God. And sadly, that just cannot be said for the charismatics.

Whether or not the prophets got their prophecies right, that's not what's most important. Whether or not we brought reproach on the name of Christ, that's not what's important. Whether or not we put words in God's mouth that he magnifies along with his name, that's just not what's important.

That's not the big deal. The big deal is whether or not the election has been stolen.

Now, what should be possessing the body of Christ at this moment is not whether or not these prophets are right, but whether or not an election has been stolen.

And that, in a nutshell, is exactly what is wrong with the charismatic prophetic movement. They take neither the name of God nor the word of God nearly as seriously as they should. Thank you very much for joining me, dear ones.

Until our next time together, may the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, the love of God, and the fellowship of his Holy Spirit be with you all.