The Regime Continues to Promote the Culture of Death, Christian Nationalism, Ecclesial Exegesis

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Well, greetings welcome to the dividing line it it was the coldest this morning

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It has been since like in early April or something. Maybe March here in Phoenix.

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So it's great. We're We here in the land of the

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Valley of the Sun Enjoy once it starts to cool off just for a little while It's it's it's exciting time of the year and you start playing

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Christmas music and all sorts of stuff like that Just because you know, it's just not gonna last long. So you might as well got a lot to get to today

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Hadn't actually talked to rich about this I'm thinking we might still be able to get a program in around regular time on Thursday on my way out to Reform Con and then we're gonna do one on Friday as well.

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And so we might be able to sneak a couple more in this week and So we but we will be at Reform Con on Friday at 130

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I believe our time so that would be 430 Eastern Daylight Time Because I'm not sure when you all play with your clocks, but I think it's first weekend of Ember if I recall correctly

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I'm sorry Yeah, Arizona Times pretty much all it does count But yeah, obviously that program will be

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Somewhat distracted with guests and stuff like that. At least I hope so. I'd like to Try to grab

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Joe boot minimally and force him to to come on the program with us

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But yeah, so it'll be a busy very busy weekend for me and Moving pretty

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I think October is gonna Not November, I mean, I think November is gonna fly back really fly past really fast

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And I think this year is just gonna we're gonna blink and it's gonna be 2023 obviously praying about What's coming up on the 8th of November with midterm elections in United States?

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truly has global ramifications honestly as to how fast the

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Rush toward Global tyrannical

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Technological tyranny can take place There are so many things that are being pushed on us the new prime minister in the

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United Kingdom Deep connections the World Economic Forum big promoter of digital currency you need to understand digital currency is

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The end of your freedom It's the end of your freedom it is absolutely necessary for the social credit system and If you haven't if you if you are not absolutely terrorized

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By what you see going on in China with the

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Enslavement absolute enslavement of those people It's just astonishing to me. But then again, I watch the people who are right now, for example protesting

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Matt Walsh Matt Walsh is Doing a good thing in Pointing people to the insanity the evil the moral and ethical depravity of Transgenderism he's pointing people to the

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Fundamental foundational issues. I don't think that Matt has

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Unfortunately, and no one in that Almost no one in that group Daily wire group has

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The necessary appropriate Worldview Answers For how to deal with these things.

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It's simple common grace and common sense That mutilating the bodies of teenagers is idiotic stupid foolish evil depraved

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Everything you can every word you can come up with But The answer is to why the connection to the culture of death the connection between that and drag

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Queen's story hour the purposeful You know an article came out

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I haven't read all of it but an article came out Yesterday a day before from Christopher Ruffo Tying together what we've been saying for all from beginning

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That this is this is all an aspect of the culture of death it is all meant to damage

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Children to denormalize the created order It is it's the manifestation the culture of death and so there's there's only one solution to it and Republicans don't have that answer

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There's nothing about being a Republican that actually answers the cultural and worldview issues that were that we're facing here and so We're seeing a what's coming up on on the 8th

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I've said for a number of months now that what kind of projects I will be focused upon will

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Have to be determined by what takes place on November 8th

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Do I have Do I do

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I have deep concerns as To whether there will be further election tampering

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I do It is clear evidence that the United States is a divided nation

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Both sides don't trust the other as far as I can throw them the Reality, of course is the left has no moral foundation upon which to trust them in the first place they've already demonstrated and and anybody who

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Again was either awake Back in the 60s and 70s or has read about what took place back in the 60s and 70s knows what was going on behind the the

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Iron Curtain and Knows that they would have elections. Nobody believed that they were relevant because they weren't

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But election tampering claiming the other side's doing it's it's the same old playbook that has been used over and over and over again

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But we both both sides Just accused the other of this and that's not good for The United States of America in any way shape or form

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But there are things going on The Revelation two weeks ago of a research facility in Boston Manipulating the coronavirus and Attaching the current

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Omicron spike protein to the original Wuhan producing a

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Variant that killed 80 % of the lab rats that were infected with it More studies coming out saying man this this thing looks completely

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Genetically manipulated it's engineered because it was And an article

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I just saw I was this morning or last evening last evening Out of Korea 22 year old man died within five days of his second vax of myocarditis and They're going into the heart and they're showing the impact of this stuff and you know, there have been undertakers of people like that saying for years, we've never seen anything like this, but You have to you know, follow the money just it would seem that most

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Christians would understand this a love of money the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil.

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It's the best way to translate that and When you when you consider The massive wealth transfer that has taken place over the past few years the infusion of money into the

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Pharmaceutical companies Pfizer Moderna they own the souls of Of so many of the politicians in the

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West and You look at the

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Organizations that are supposed to be the watchdogs over these people and You look at the boards and then you look at the people the

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CDC FDA and it's like a revolving door. They're just all in bed with each other they go from Moderna to serving the board and go back to Pfizer and then go did it the

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It is the most incestuous corrupt Hundreds of billions of dollars worth of corruption

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No one with a brain in their head Should ever trust what these people have to say ever again.

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It's just so obvious. It's incredible So you look at you look at something like that and they are creating these

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Super -viruses and you just go why? Why are they doing this?

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What is the endgame here? And Then just right now

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I within the last hour Biden they drugged him up again, and I'm absolutely serious about it.

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I'm sorry people. You're just so disrespectful. No When you listen to this man speaking, he is plainly

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Sina. He is is He is so far I said he was non -compos mentis before the election he is so far beyond that now that it's astonishing and You know, he was just telling someone

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Of that transgender Guy The very fact that someone like that transgender guy was invited the

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White House just tells you just how utterly corrupt and meaningless this regime is But even then

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Biden's talking about how they got their bill through with only two votes to spare to do the school

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Loan forgiveness stuff that was an executive order It wasn't an act of Congress there wasn't any vote the man is not connected to reality

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He has no idea what day of the week it is he doesn't he doesn't remember what he said yesterday He's been on vacation 42 % of the time that he's been president and I'm gonna tell you what that is

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The drugs they're using to make him functional have to be washed out of the system once in a while and that's why he's only around 60 % of the time and even then

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There's only so much you can do. There's only so much you can do There are some

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Positive there's one positive thing today the New York Supreme Court and What's happening up in Alberta the premier in Alberta Sorry, if you want your jobs back, you can have them

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New York Supreme Court just said You fired anybody because their VAC status they get back pay and they get they get their jobs back would love to see that happen for the

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Navy SEALs and everybody in the Armed Forces and They could sure use those people back right now because they can't get anybody else to join up but that's probably not gonna happen because Weakness is what they want

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Our enemies are in charge. This regime is controlled by foreign powers. I believe that firmly Why else would they be doing it?

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No one can be this incompetent The only choices are these the most incompetent morons that have ever served in the

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United States government Or they're doing this on purpose. And once you put the once you put the the most amazing arch villain

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Ever designed Klaus Schwab. He even dresses the part for crying out loud

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You you throw him in there And there's no question about what's going on you see the

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Macron in France and now the new guy in in the UK and All the people we got over here

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And it's just like you you have to be blind deaf and dumb not to see what's what's going on So it's you know, it's nice every once in a while to see a brief glimmer of justice

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But Unless it, you know Expands out to some meaningful level.

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It's not gonna get us anywhere a couple weeks ago. I didn't talk about it. I Mentioned it

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Briefly, but a couple weeks ago a representative by the name of Guzman who's not even she was she was born.

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I think in Peru But she's in the

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Legislative branch in the state of Virginia It's this old story, but I didn't get a chance to talk about it these radicals will introduce these bills

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Or she introduced the bill to criminalize Non -support of a minor who decides they're transgender now transgenderism right now

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Would transgenderism never existed prior to YouTube? Okay, there was a small amount of what?

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clinicians called gender dysphoria In the past but the the current pandemic of Sexual perversity is

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Produced by tik -tok and YouTube and Instagram and all this stuff

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It's it's not real. It's it's If you want to make sure that your kids

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Don't experience this Don't get him a cell phone Have them read real books

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Homeschool I had a blast Last week,

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I think I Got a chance to pick up my grandkids from homeschool co -op co -op co -op and It was really cool because you know almost everybody there was some apologia.

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So hey pastor white. Hey pastor well, you know all the kids hey, dr. Why did it you know and It was great to see them all playing together and Doing all sorts of neat fun stuff

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And then get to take my kids out to Lunch with me at Cafe Rio.

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I love Cafe Rio Cafe Rio is great I'll probably now be banned from Cafe Rio for having said that but I love

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I love a Chicken quesadilla from Cafe Rio, that's that's great stuff But anyways just seeing how the kids interact with one another and that you know

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If you want to protect your kids, that's what you're gonna need to do because the culture of death wants to destroy them and this

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Guzman in Virginia Introduces this bill now, it's not gonna pass But that's how the left does everything

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Every wild -eyed nutty crazy insane morally depraved law

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That we're now dealing with was initially introduced and defeated It's a matter of We're gonna throw it out there and people gonna go.

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Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope, but now it's been out there once I Need to throw it out again You think you just keep doing it as many times you need to do until you numb people to it and then you can get it pass

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But this was literally a woman born outside the United States promoting the idea in the state of Virginia of criminalizing on the felony

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Criminalizing parents who would not support a

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Transgender child that is would not go along with the insanity of mommy daddy.

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I've decided I'm a boy When you have adults doing this

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When you watch there was a video Again Matt Walsh is doing his thing quite appropriately on The insanity of the transgender movement and of course you watch the you watch the people gathering hours before They're supposed to do anything

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Trying to shut everything down Breaking laws and you watch these people and you realize

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You've seen this someplace before you've seen it you saw it in the

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Hitler youth You see it in the young people in communist countries

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We saw it depicted on stone glyphs in Mesoamerica It's a cult

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It's a religion it's all these people have You see these people just Screaming their lungs out.

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There's there is not a rational logical thought to be found in the entire

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Crowd of them the the average age

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Mental age emotional age of these individuals is about four It truly is

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They are they are permanent children They're not adults

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They cannot think Rationally, they cannot think logically they are absolutely owned and run by their emotions all they've got

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You've got to pity them. It's all they've got How empty? To live your life screaming in support of mutilating

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Girls bodies and boys bodies. This is this is the greatest good you have in your life

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Can you imagine how empty that is? There's only one solution you and I both know what it is.

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You and I both know it is which leads me to Comment on a subject that you probably have noticed

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I haven't talked about which is a little surprising But how long ago was it that we first heard

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I I would say At least on the popular level. It hasn't been a year

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Before I first heard the phrase Christian nationalism You know, it's like when white supremacy started

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Coming up and you're like I thought That was about people in white robes in the

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South, you know 50 years ago and Now it's you know If you if you remain married to your wife and raise your children, that's a sign of white supremacy everything is white supremacy and Now we have

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Christian nationalism and people are They're they're glomming on to it and you've got a book just came out

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Case for Christian nationalism. No, I've not read it. I haven't seen it. Nobody sent me one

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But Then I saw last week the video of a prayer of Of Awaken America something.

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I don't I'm not I'm not sure what it is But it includes the

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General Flynn guy And Somebody else.

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I'm not real big and I'm not big in the politics stuff. Anyway Someone gave an opening prayer at this political rally and it was all for Trump and it was praying that Trump wouldn't be surrounded by rhinos and He'd be given the wisdom to pick the right people to save America It was really troubling

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It was so obviously religion in the service of a particular

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Political perspective that doesn't give a lot of evidence of being

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Thought through and well -grounded shall we say and I I looked at something like that and I couldn't help but thinking look

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Everybody's talking about Christian nationalism What's the only as far as I can see?

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What's the only acceptable understanding of that phrase? Well Blessed is a nation whose

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God is Yahweh Right. It is a blessing

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For a nation to have Yahweh as its God Which means every nation has a

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God that Runs directly against the secular understanding

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But it's a true statement secularism becomes the God the state Becomes the

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God of a secular people everybody worships.

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You can't avoid having ultimate commitments You made that and and the less you're aware of those presuppositional ultimate commitments the more you're controlled by them obviously and so all those secular people dancing around outside of Matt Walsh event

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Screaming and banging drums and and Screaming about trans rights or human rights and all the rest of this kind of stuff, which is a meaningless statement

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That is a Expression of religion. It's religious worship.

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It's religious fervor that we're dealing with here. It's just an irrational Religious fervor, but it's it's still there

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So when you when you talk about Christian nationalism If all we're saying is every nation will have a

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God and the only God that exists is Yahweh and hence

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The only Lord that will bring blessings upon a nation is the enthroned

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Lord in heaven The risen Savior to whom all authority has been given in heaven and earth well

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Okay, obviously that's what you want But the only way to have that function is if God in his mercy and grace works in such a fashion as to convert a

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Majority of the people in a nation and as I look around I see very little evidence that the majority of the people of this nation have actually been converted and the only way to start talking about the formulation of law in a nation in a in a way that makes

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Christian nationalism meaningful is if you have a Christian nation Not simple principles being enforced upon people who remain rebels and haters of God's law and So there are certain things that have to happen first.

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And so on one side there's there you can't argue You you are to disciple the nations you are to proclaim the

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Lordship of Christ you are to say to any nation if You want

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God's blessing Here is the path to God's blessing you do what is pleasing to him.

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And how do we know what's pleasing to him? Well, he's revealed it We have something called the

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Ten Commandments. We have something you know, the law that represents God's holiness

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The law teaches us that we are to be concerned about the lives of others around us there are principles general equity that is found in the law of God and And We have been given the power to live out those commands of holiness

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Only in and through the Spirit of God which is ours by faith in Jesus Christ repentance of sin

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During the Christ is Lord bowing the knee called salvation and So we can we can say these things the world we can offer these things the world but it's not until the

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Spirit of God works in such a fashion as to bring about a majority of People that we can start talking about Christian nationalism in any way

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I've been told again. I'm not sure I've been told I Should have

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I should have looked at this You're right Chris We should allow

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President Biden to have as much ice cream as he wants It's it's the only

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It's the only kind thing to do love you Chris You and I are the weirdest pair on the well you throw

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Jason in we're a weird trio anyway Yes He Joe Biden can have all my ice cream.

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All right, cuz I'm not big No You can't have yours

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Okay, Rich says he can't have his but you can have mine cuz I'm I'm just not a big ice cream person I'm just I don't know why

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I Sometimes wonder if it's because after church when I was a kid My dad would take us to Dairy Queen Was a

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Dairy Queen or was it another one? Yeah No, not back east think it was

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Dairy Queen and It did not matter how hard he tried He was going to dribble on his tie he just destroyed so many ties and I was just waiting in the backseat of the car all the time to hear oh dear oh my word

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I Got that from my parents. Oh my word when I played tennis When I'd make a mistake

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I'd go. Oh my word. And finally, I remember one day some kid. I was playing said

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What's your word? They just they just Lost it. Stop it

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The older you get the more you you analyze your own language and go man I I got so much of this stuff from my parents.

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I didn't even didn't even know. How did we get on it? Oh because I went and looked at my phone. That's that's why

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Chris see what you just did to me. You just I don't even know what I'm talking about anymore. So anyway

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Anyway Yeah, yeah, well, yeah, well anything that I say will be put into a meme at some point

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Anyhow, I I get what people are saying.

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I believe God's law is absolutely necessary It's it's light.

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It's guidance to us in the sense of telling us who God is and hey It's as close as you're gonna get to a owner's manual and The rebel heart hates it

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Did you see the video? again, it was Matt Walsh thing I think today or yesterday of People ripping up Bibles and eating there was something they were throwing pages around people were eating pages of the

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Bible and so I go hate God's love They know that that's really what they're rebelling against.

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They really do But at the same time I Get all that but history tells us what happens when you have sacralism and I think we need to have a real important conversation about the difference between the sacralism that imprisoned

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Fritz Erba in the Vartburg Castle and What Christian nationalism could possibly mean?

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because There are few things more liable to abuse than the combination of religious and political power just like The response to the demasculination masculinization of men can result in a

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There Men will take advantage of opportunities to sinfully behave

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If they're given those opportunities and it's really natural For a man to make excuses for his behavior by just saying he's being macho and a man so it has to be balanced and everything there has to be balance and everything and We can only find the the basis and standard of that balance in in the scriptures

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So there we go So that's certainly not a whole discussion about Christian nationalism is just a few thoughts that for Christian nationalism to be played out

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Will require a massive work of the Spirit of God in bringing about the true conversion of hearts and minds

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Till then our Call to secular leaders is

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Is we need to To say to them If you want

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God's blessing This is the only path. This is the only way and all that takes us back to the reality of The Day of Judgment coming my wife and I were talking last night.

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She's just so frustrated with The Biden regime and And both of us

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It's just such a regular thing now for us to be thinking about It's one thing for us to be dealing with the ungodliness of Our nation today, it's our grandkids they're growing up there for they're having to face this and for both of us, it's just source of true frustration and concern and You know, we

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I just sort of said in passing There's gonna be a Day of Judgment and she's like, oh, it's the only hope we have and it's true you

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You you when you think about that Day of Judgment, and I keep going back to Act 1731

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How do we know this could be a Day of Judgment because there's an empty tomb Again, that was that was

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I I didn't think about this until two years ago. I didn't see it in Act 1731, but God has appointed a day

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He's gonna judge world righteousness by a man whom he has chosen and he has given evidence to all by raising him from the dead the evidence of the

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Day of Judgment and that it will be righteous and that everyone will face it is an empty tomb it's an empty tomb and That needs to be the message that we are giving to our culture and that may cause them to kill us

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It's happened before But eventually it's going to be used as the means of bringing that about So, there you go

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Couple things I wasn't able to find it. I I I don't know why

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I don't know sometimes the color of the Screenshot throws me off or something.

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I don't know But Craig Carter after the

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Journal dropped a few Sometime, you know last week

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I think I may have I just realized probably where I could find it if I Wanted to scroll and scroll and scroll and scroll and scroll

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But Craig Carter has posted a few things again. I'm I'm blocked that doesn't really mean a whole lot

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You'll recall that Yeah, I found it you'll recall that I had

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Pointed out when he blocked me That he said a number of untruths untrue things made untrue statements.

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He's never attempted to Back that up. Everyone's just sort of let that slide because he gets to do whatever he wants to even though I've Put quotations from his book up on the screen and stuff like that He's I don't have any evidence whatsoever.

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He's ever listened to a word. I've had to say or read anything either But that's how it goes Here's here's the tweet.

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I was able to find it the fundamentalist Baptist of GBTS who reject

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Thomas completely Have thereby demeaned the reformed theological tradition that produced the 17th century confessions including the

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Second London Confession of Faith Therefore for them to pretend to uphold the teaching of the Second London Confession of Faith is absurd

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I don't think he has a clue. He's not he hasn't he didn't read the journal and I'm sorry, but There are lots of negative reviews of Carter's work out there that I haven't really focused on I haven't wanted to get into the this scholar says this about this scholar stuff because there's there's there's no end to it

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But the reality is that The more I Encountering what he's saying the the less respect

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I have for him as a scholar. I know he's lied about me I know he doesn't do his homework.

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I know he didn't read the the journal and So he's willing to make statements that just simply don't have any foundation and just expect people

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To believe whatever it is he has to say because he is who he is I guess So, what does it mean who reject

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Thomas completely what is what does that mean? If you if you

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You know, I interacted with Thomas in one of the articles If I was an error, it would be really easy to demonstrate the error

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But they don't even try none of these people try all the people who reacted within two hours of this journal come yet You know you try

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I Have not seen one person any of these cadre of Thomistic critics even try

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It's just it has to be the dismissive hand wave not the okay Here's where you're wrong about Thomas on this subject because I dealt with Where he stands in regards to sola scriptura

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Since they have not refuted. I guess they must agree. I guess I must have gotten that right but they would be loath to say it and So they haven't said it

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But I don't even know what who reject Thomas completely What does that even mean? How about providing a citation if you mean we don't think

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Thomas Aquinas as a whole is A valid or useful guide for Protestants.

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That's true and Neither did Martin Luther or John Calvin Those are both true statements.

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Now. I understand where they're gonna go. Well, but you see, you know They sort of just took over that medieval.

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That's not we're talking about is it because he didn't design it Did he your whole argument? Is it that while he may have put the finishing touches on something that he's actually doing

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Nicene Orthodoxy, right? Isn't that your position trying to get these folks to be consistent?

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It's extremely difficult But therefore for them to pretend to uphold the teaching the second line of confession faith is absurd

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I did an entire article in that journal on The first chapter of that.

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Do you think dr. Carter's read it? Nope think he could refute it. Nope Couldn't even start

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Couldn't even start we we know the ivory tower mentality and Couldn't even start so it's getting getting pretty bad

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The the hand -waving and so another Carter tweet was the PhD program at MBTS is where you go today for a program that takes

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The historic tradition of classical theology and the metaphysics that informs it seriously You don't get this kind of philosophical depth in most doctoral programs and systematic theology today.

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That was after I Retweeted Some of the material that Matthew Barrett was posting some of the books

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Now you need to So many of the people that are dealing with the subject don't get what the connections are here

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Okay Barrett had posted a bunch of stuff

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On his timeline relating to Visiting professors and those same professors are people that Carter's Working with and the sources are quoting or very similar sources

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Some sometimes very same sources. There's a lot of interconnectedness here that a lot of people are not aware of but You look at the books that Were being promoted by Matthew Barrett at Midwestern and I simply tweeted the pictures and Said remember and I was referring to Phil Johnson.

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Remember when Phil said that I was I should be ashamed of myself that I Was using labels to attack my opponents such as Thomast and Platonist And I'm like No, no

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Phil Those those actually are the here's the exact quotation

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This whole diatribe is a lot of bluster that amounts to a cheap shot attack on those of us

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Who want to hold the line on classic theism? divine timelessness impassibility and Phil it's spelled

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I And Nicene Trinitarianism untainted by neo -subordination ism It's easier to for James to label his adversaries

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Thomast and Platonist than it is for him to Defend the problems created by EFS and passability again.

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It's P A S S I B anyway, um and So I simply pointed out on Twitter this week.

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I Didn't make up these these labels. These are the labels they're using of themselves Anyone who has read

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Craig Carter would not even start to respond this way Because he's the one pushing if you've read his book

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Interpreting scripture and light the great tradition What is his? What's his thesis?

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That the way to deal with the crisis of modern exegesis critical exegesis historical critical exegesis

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Is Christian Platonism? We we need Plato. We need to become Christian Platonist.

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That's his whole point That wasn't something I made up I'm reflecting actually reading the original sources and in reference to all this this was

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This was goes back to the Joel Webben webcast that I did Well, I was

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I used masters as an example. I said we've got this stuff coming to masters there are certain professors at masters that are pushing

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Dolezal and and Carter and Just look at the edition of the master's seminary journal where they both are contributing and I I said

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If this can happen at masters it can happen anywhere This is a there is a constant temptation in academics toward scholasticism toward the creation of a scholastic movement and And when

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I have talked about what Thomism is about what

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Christian Platonism is about when I have talked about The assertions are being made in regards to how we're to do exegesis and development of new hermeneutic and Then I say it's evening even happening at masters people are like No That's not possible.

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That's actually a compliment to masters That's a compliment because people know if there's anything about masters

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Everybody Everybody on that staff in the year 2014 would have thanked you

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For calling them a biblicist. They would have viewed that as a compliment

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Would have accepted it who said you better believe it. That's where that's where we stand Now biblicism for some is

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A bad word It's coming in It almost seems inevitable

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But it's coming in it is a form of Thomistic scholasticism Christian Platonism whatever you want to call it.

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I didn't make up those terms but those terms have been used for quite some time and So a couple things

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I Had mentioned that There had been the suggestion

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Made to leadership about European PhDs. No one has disputed that that actually did take place and it did

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I know that did I Didn't said that didn't say that well, and that means they're gonna go do that.

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The point is once again any institution any

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Academic institution is susceptible to this movement and to this temptation even masters

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I Hope and pray that they resist but as I said right now

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Seems to me that there's a lot of Internal conversation going on.

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And so the only thing here The This whole diatribe is a lot of bluster that amounts to a cheap -shot attack

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Wasn't a cheap -shot attack. It was an accurate recognition That a movement that did not exist before is now present amongst professors

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At Masters Seminary, that's not even questionable and you know that You know that I could name the names so could you

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Most of them were in a meeting you all had Right. Oh, yeah, I know about it

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It's an attack on whom on those of us who want to hold the line on classic theism

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Really? What's classic theism? Well, they're given a definition here divine timelessness.

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I Mean God's eternal doesn't experience a progression of time Who's attacking that?

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Me so, why would I are you saying I did I deny divine timelessness Impassibility Well, there was an entire

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Division over exactly how to flesh that out if you mean God is not like us and God is not controlled by Emotions and things like that.

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Well, obviously But if you mean by that that everything in the

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Bible about God's Passion for his own holiness God's wrath against sin

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God's love for his people is to be turned into something that can fit into Thomas's Aristotelian God No So where are you gonna go with that?

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and Nicene Trinitarianism Untainted by neo subordination ism.

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Well, that sounds neat. I'd like to know what that means. I might my gut feeling

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Neo subordination ism Since it says later

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It says it's easier for James to label his adversaries Thomas and Platonist than it is

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For him to defend the problems created by EFS impassibility Okay Do you think

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I believe in EFS I Don't never have spoken against it so None of this made much sense because the terminology

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I was using I was borrowing from the people on the other side and Matthew Barrett's tweets this week proved that one beyond all question.

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So I Really wonder how many of the lectures and they we shouldn't can identify them as lectures

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That I've delivered on this program normally in the other studio Big board quotes material timelines

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How much of that has Phil listened to I? Didn't get the feeling any Because I didn't even know what he's referring to.

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I've never developed. I never defended EFS and I don't know what you mean by passability.

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Are you going back to the great divisions amongst the ARBCA folks? back 2010 through 2014 ish area

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Is that what you're talking about? I don't know can't tell doesn't have much to do with what my concern has been and my concern is reformed

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Biblicism My concern is where you're deriving your your theology from which brings us to What I need to get to Since we're gonna be doing hopefully two more programs than then on Thursday.

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I will be responding to the Baptist dogmatic stuff there's two more articles that have come out and I've only read the second one.

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We'll get to the third one as well But I and I do did we check to see if you can pull stuff up over there?

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all right, I Noted the release of this book by RR Reno the end of interpretation reclaiming the priority of ecclesial exegesis hmm

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That's a very provocative title the end of interpretation reclaiming the priority of ecclesial exegesis, what have

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I been saying? all this stuff about The extended assertions of divine simplicity and several operations all this stuff.

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What's it really go back to? The stuff that Baptist dogmatics is doing that their next article that I'll respond to on Thursday attempts to do exegesis of Matthew 24 36

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In a way somehow different to mine. And by the way you guys at Baptist dogmatics. Is there a reason?

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why You based all of what you're saying in response to me to a single parenthetical

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Sentence in A brief thing that I put up and you said this was just too long for a Twitter thread Why why focus on something that?

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small and narrow I Mean if you're trying to be fair anyway I'll say more about that.

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So I saw this book. Yep, and so I Then saw the backside and this

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Was where I I went, ah

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Interesting interesting interesting Notice what we've got here.

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Sorry. Why are you doing this to me? Oh Shows us what a truly ecclesial interpretation of the

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Bible looks like Arguing that scripture is interpreted correctly only when read through the lens of creedal orthodoxy

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RR Reno defends a classical mode of interpretation Hmm, then we have the endorsers

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Kevin Van Hooser Trinity Evangelical Divinity School. Hmm Most Reverend Robert Barron the

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Bishop of Winona, Rochester in This splendidly written embracing text Reno shows us what a truly ecclesial interpretation of the

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Bible looks like skip down Scott Hahn Scott Hahn now

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Question how many people even know who Scott Hahn is anymore? How many people even know who

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Scott Hahn is anymore? I can't assume as so many of my critics are the same age as my kids that I Can't assume that they have any idea

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What a What's what relationship exists here

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Scott Hahn teaches University of Steubenville, but long before he did that He was one of the celebrated converts along with his dear friend at that time

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Jerry Matitix and It was Han and Matitix That were

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Key in Starting the Debating activity of this ministry in the late 80s early 90s

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Jerry Matitix was John Gershner's favorite student and The first ordained

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PCA minister to convert to Roman Catholicism Scott Hahn moderated the debate

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I did with Jerry Matitix at the City of the Lord in December December of 1990 so I've been yelled at by Scott Hahn Scott Hahn has quite a temper

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Rich is going. Oh, yeah, we saw it more than once and Of course

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Jerry Matitix saw it too where right in front of me Scott Hahn reamed him out after that debate which he clearly lost and stormed out of the building

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So I know who Scott Hahn is Scott Hahn is a convert from Roman from Protestantism from Reformed Protestant to Roman Catholicism So he says in identifying the end of interpretation

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Reno plots the trajectory of something far greater than anything we've known in my lifetime Reading scripture from the heart of the church in the great tradition

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Great tradition where we heard that before. Oh in The great tradition and not surrendering it to the canons of the secular

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Academy. That sounds great Of course, we've been doing exegesis without surrendering to the canons the secular

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Academy for a long long time But it's interesting that you have Scott Hahn right above whom

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Craig A. Carter Now notice it says this book may not have all the answers to the thorny questions of biblical hermeneutics

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After the demise the historical critical approach, but it at least points us in the right direction By advocating for the priority of ecclesial exegesis

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Reno shows the true doctrine neither supersedes nor undermines the Bible but rather accords with it in Premodern times doctrine exegesis informed each other and they should do so again.

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That is Key to Carter's thesis. There's no two ways about if you've read him anyways

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Tried to listen to what he's saying. We listen to him. He doesn't listen to anybody else. That's a bit of a problem, but Carter is right below Scott Hahn and Both of them are right below Karl Truman an

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Excellent treatment of the ever -present tension that all thoughtful Christians feel between biblical exegesis and theological statements

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Between the desire to maintain the uniqueness of biblical authority while also respecting the church's historic teaching

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This book will be on the reading lists of my theology classes from now on now.

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We played a section from Karl Truman Saying that starting about 2016.

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That's when he really started moving into his Thomistic phase and Basically saying that the

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Catholics are right about God, but the Protestants are right about salvation And I just sort of go

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That's that's not gonna that's not gonna work Anyway This book will be on the reading list of my theology classes now on now,

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I've read the book. I Know it only dropped last week. I read it over the weekend. I took the time

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And I'm not gonna review it all right now because we're basically out of time for today, but I Will simply say in passing

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I found it to be very poor It is mainly pre -written material

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From other contexts the last chapter for example is all about this Brazos commentary series, which was really irrelevant

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That he was involved with it does raise Key issues toward the beginning and I'll read some of those sections when we do a closer review of it

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But doesn't answer any of the questions It simply doesn't. Reno himself is a convert to Roman Catholicism.

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Now he came from Episcopalianism that's not all that big of a leap, but He is and so when he's talking about the church when he's talking about Ecclesial interpretation

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Well, you need to understand how Vatican 1 and Vatican 2 understood those those phrases

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Ecclesial interpretation is the interpretation provided by the

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Magisterium of the Church the Roman Catholic Church and so This highlights once again if if the

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Ecclesia provides The lens Then how can the scriptures ever reform or correct the

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Ecclesia? This is the question.

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This is the issue that we're dealing with This is the topic of Sola Scriptura this is the sufficiency and Over and over again in listening to Reno.

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I'm like no actually the answer would be found in having a proper biblical view of the

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Bible In other words, if you had the same view of Scripture that Jesus did you wouldn't even be asking this question

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Now I get it. I Get it. I get it. I get it. I get it

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That if you've lived most of your life in academia today dealing with historical critical methodology and you've look

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I've Said this over and over again. I'm sorry.

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Oh Well, Rich said we croaked Rich said we died That throws everything off so I'll continue like I said, we'll eventually do a little bit more on Reno's book and Ecclesial exegesis and all the rest of that stuff.

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It's central. It's key. I was just simply amazed at People are supposed to be on my side.

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We're like throwing Mitch Pack was endorsed when in my book on the

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Trinity out as if that was relevant and I'm just like You all you all have not even started to think about what the real issue is.

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Have you you haven't even begun you you are You're so out of the game It's not even funny

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That that wasn't the issue we're talking about The you bring together

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Truman and Han and Carter and Reno and They're different backgrounds.

01:03:58

There are different perspectives and we're talking here about scriptural sufficiency if you think that Mitch Pack was endorsing my book

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Almost 30 years ago 25 years ago on the Trinity has anything to do with this Then you are not even listening.

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You are not even in the conversation. Just stay out of it You don't get it.

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It's sad. I'm sorry. You don't get it, but just Don't even go there Anyway, so I don't know what any of this means

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But what well, I think we recovered nicely here. I will say this

01:04:33

Twitch has Decided that it was the Coogee that caused the crash

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That's not possible Because this is one of the most moot Muted moot like a moot works.

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It's muted. It is not colorful at all In fact, I almost disappear into the background.

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The corners here are the same color as the wall behind. Yes So it is not possible that it was the

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Coogee. So I'm sorry, but Twitch or whatever it is. We're on is wrong Okay, whatever it is.

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I don't know Okay all right, so when when rich starts going, uh

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Um, that's pretty much it. It's just like whatever you're talking about. It's done It's over with get start that all over again.

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So I don't know if he's gonna have to edit that or whatever. But anyways You'll find a way so Lord willin on Thursday will be back again.

01:05:33

And then like I said some sort of fun program from reform con on Friday 430

01:05:41

Eastern Daylight Time if it's still daylight time, which I think it will be So anyways, thanks for watching the program.