Romans Chapter 8

All right guys take out your Bibles and turn to Romans chapter 8. All right for those of you who don't know me. My name is Keith. I'm the pastor of Sovereign Grace Family Church. I come in every Thursday at 945 and I teach From the Bible now.

I had been teaching a series on systematic theology and I stopped that several months ago. We began to teach a chapter by chapter study of the book of Romans. And so if you have not been here today is Romans 8.

And so if you're brand new you miss chapters 1 through 7, that's fine but understand that all of the Bible fits within a context and so understanding where we are in chapter 8 is predicated on Understanding what happened in Romans 1 through 7.

Romans 1–7: Sin, Justification, and the Setup for Chapter 8

So very quickly. Let me give you a very brief overview in chapters 1 through 3 the Apostle Paul is Discussing the gospel and how the gospel relates to sinful man and a holy God. God is holy man is sinful and Paul describes man in chapters 1 2 3 as being completely sinful and Opposed to God he says at the end of the middle of chapter 3 He says that he has convicted both Jew and Greek that all are under sin.

No one is good. No, not one. There's none who understands. There's none who seeks after God and Then he begins to explain the doctrine of justification. How can this happen this sinful? Unrighteous wretched man be made right with a holy and Righteous God and the only way is through Jesus Christ who came who died on the cross to take the Punishment that men deserve and to give them his righteousness and we call this the great exchange Whereby Christ receives the punishment we deserve and gives us the righteousness that only he possesses in chapters 5.

He rounds us out with the question Over the statement about us having peace with God. He said therefore we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ by faith Having been justified by faith and he goes through the relationship between Adam and Christ showing that Adam is the representative of all mankind when he sinned he sinned on behalf of all mankind and therefore brought all mankind into Condemnation, but Christ through his one act of righteousness dying on the cross brought those who believe in him into a state of justification.

Then he gets a chapter 6 and he asked this question Well based upon all this can we continue to sin if we've been justified by faith if we've been justified by Christ Doesn't matter what we do. Can we continue in sin that grace can abound and the answer was absolutely not that does not give us a license to sin.

If we have been saved by Christ and filled with the Spirit then we Should walk by faith and and not seek to satisfy the desires of the flesh. Chapter 7 deals with the law and how the law affects the believer and Then we get to chapter 8 and chapter 8 is going to be our study for today.

Why Romans 8 Is Such a Great Chapter

And I want to say a few things and then we're going to read and then we're going to pray. When we talk about Romans chapter 8. Romans chapter 8 has been considered by many scholars to be the greatest chapter in the whole Bible and the reason why is because Romans chapter 8 describes in explicit detail the blessings of what it means to be a member of God's family and a Person who is filled with God's Spirit.

One author said it like this he said if you consider the Bible a Ring like a ring that you wear on your finger. He said Romans would be the jewel of the ring and Romans 8 would be the sparkling Point of the jewel.

Romans 8 then Considered again by many to be one of the greatest chapters in The Bible it begins with no condemnation. It ends with no separation and Throughout the chapter we are reminded of the blessing of being a part of the family of God.

So I'm excited to read this and to study it with you and to share its contents. Because I think it's one of the one of the greatest chapters in the whole Bible, so let's read. Beginning in verse 1 it says there is therefore now No condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus for the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death.

For God has done what the law weakened by the flesh could not do by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh. And for sin he condemned sin in the flesh in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who walk not According to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

For those who live according to the flesh that their minds on the things of the flesh. But those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit. For to set the mind on the flesh is death.

But to set the mind on the spirit is life and peace. For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God. It does not submit to God's law. Indeed it cannot. Those who are the flesh cannot please God.

Yeah, you however are not in the flesh. But are in the Spirit if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does Not belong to him. But if Christ is in you Although the body of is dead because of sin the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

If the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you he who raised Jesus Christ from the dead will also give Life to your mortal bodies through the Spirit who dwells in you. So then brothers We are debtors Not to the flesh to live according to the flesh where if you live according to the flesh you will die.

But if you by the Spirit put to death the deeds of the body you will live. For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear.

But you have received the spirit of adoption as sons by whom we cry. Abba Father the Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God and if children than heirs heirs of God and fellow Heirs with Christ provided we suffer with him in order that we may also be glorified with him.

For I consider these present the present sufferings are not worthy to be compared to the glory that is to be revealed to us. But the creation waits with eager longing to reveal. Excuse me for the revealing of the sons of God for the creation was subjected to futility not willingly.

But because of him who subjected it and hope that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to corruption and obtain the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now and not only the creation but we ourselves who have the firstfruits of the Spirit grown inwardly and We wait eagerly for adoption his sons the redemption of our bodies for in this hope we were saved.

Now hope that is seen is not hope for who hopes for what he sees. But if we hope for what we do not see we wait for it with patience. Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness but we do not know what to pray as we ought but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words and He who searches the hearts knows.

That is excuse me. And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit because the Spirit intercedes for the Saints according to the will of God. We know that for those who love God all things work together for good for those who are called according to his purpose.

For those who before knew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his son. In order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and those whom he predestined. He also called those whom he called he also justified those whom he justified.

He also glorified. What then shall we say to these things if God is for us who can be against us? He who did not spare his own son, but gave him up for us all how will he not also with him graciously?

Give us all things who shall bring any charge against God's elect. It is God who justifies who is to condemn Christ Jesus is the one who died more than that who was raised who is at the right hand of God and who indeed intercedes for us.

Who shall separate us from the love of Christ shall tribulation or distress or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword as it? Is written for your sake we are being killed all the day long.

We are regarded as sheep to be slaughtered. No, and all these things were more than conquerors through him who loved us for I am certain that neither death nor life. Nor angels nor rulers nor things present or things to come nor powers nor height nor depth or anything else in all creation Will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Absolution, the Prodigal Son, and No Condemnation in Christ

Let's pray father as I seek to give an understanding of your word. I pray first as I always do that You would keep me from error. For Lord, I'm a fallible man and capable of preaching error. And I pray that you would I Pray that you would keep me from that for the sake of these men for the sake of your name and for the sake of my conscience.

I Pray Lord for The men under the sound of my voice first that they would hear the truths of the word and be moved by them. If there are believers Lord that they would be moved to a deeper walk in their faith.

And Lord if they are yet to believe I pray that today would be the knee the day that they would bow the knee to Christ. Lord I pray that you would be glorified and what is going to be preached. And I pray that they would be edified by your word.

And I pray Lord Help me to give a right understanding of what you have said in your word in Christ's name. Amen one of the most Precious promises that anyone could ever receive is the promise of absolution.

Absolution. Absolution being the idea that We have been forgiven completely of a particular crime or sin that we have committed. Imagine there's someone in your life that you have hurt or Someone in your life that you have offended sinned against and You go to this person and you plead with them for their forgiveness and They give you that forgiveness Completely and they no longer hold to your account the record of your offense.

It's a wonderful thing isn't it? I mean, I mean I've many times Have I been in situations where I have been the guilty party whether it is with my words or with my deeds. And I have said things or done things that have hurt people and I've had people say to me Keith I forgive you and in that moment there's a Especially if you know, they're being genuine, you know.

They're not doing it to manipulate you or they're not doing it to build themselves up or to express some form of pride but they truly do forgive you and in that moment of forgiveness where you had been you had been Rightfully condemned for what you had done because what you had done was wrong.

You're not you're not justifying yourself. You're not saying it was right, you know. It was wrong and the person has given you forgiveness based not because on your you're deserving of forgiveness. But because they chose in their mercy to forgive you and to not hold that record of wrong against you that moment is sweet.

That moment is joyous and and the the reconciliation that comes in that relationship is Beautiful because what was divided by pain what was divided by hurt? What was divided by sin has been washed away and now you are embraced.

I think of the picture of the prodigal son's father. You remember the prodigal son is he's in the pig slop and he remembers that his father is a kind man. And he says, you know, my father's servants live better than this and he gets up and he goes home.

And what is the what does the father do? He sees his son from afar off. He he runs to him and he embraces him and he kisses him and he puts a ring on his finger and he Reestablishes their relationship and he's whole.

There was a song years ago. I don't remember who sang it was a Christian Christian Song on the radio. It was called mercy came running. Mercy came running like a prisoner set free. I don't remember the words.

But I just remember that phrase mercy came running and I always think about that with the father of the prodigal son. Here comes the young man and the father doesn't sit on his porch With a highfalutin attitude.

Oh here comes that fool back to grovel, no, he he hikes up his his tunic because Noble men did not run that was just something that was not done in the first century and they wore garments that actually made it difficult to run and If if they had to run or go into battle They had to hold up their garments or do what was called girding up their loins.

Which was tying it up so that they could run as you can imagine this noble man who obviously has power and Affluence in his community. He's holding up his skirt as it were running to his son in mercy in love Embraces him kisses him Reestablishes their relationship and reconfirms him not as a slave but as a son.

Beautiful picture, right. And What's important about that Parable is That that is the picture of the person who comes to God in faith in Christ. That God receives them in mercy and Establishes them not as a slave but as a son.

The Bible says we've been adopted into the family of God we're no longer slaves of sin, but we are now children of God and Therefore when we see this passage in Romans 8 1 it should remind us That this is no small thing.

This is the greatest blessing in the whole world. There is now no condemnation For those who are in Christ Jesus. There's now No condemnation again. I can't stress it enough that we're not waiting to be justified.

But we are justified remember Romans 1 5 1 Having been justified by faith. What is that? What tense? Past tense we have been justified having been justified by faith. We have peace with God and So here he says there's no condemnation.

For those who are in Christ Jesus as I said this is a beautiful chapter because it begins with a beautiful reminder and the reminder is All seven chapters that came before this. Man is sinful. God has justified.

Adam brought death. Christ brought life. Don't sin and call it a license for grace or don't don't use grace as a license for sin. All of these things have been building up to a crescendo moment where Paul says to us there is now No condemnation.

If you think about what he just said in verse chapter 7 go back up to chapter 7 look at verse 24. He says this question he says wretched man that I am who will deliver me from this body of death. Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

So then I I myself serve the law of God with my mind but with my flesh the law of sin. He's talking about he's talking about himself as being a wretched man. And he says even though I'm a wretched man, I'm in Christ and in Christ.

There's no condemnation. Even though I deserve hell. And I and I do think a lot of people disagree with this but I'll take it for what it's worth. I Do think that it's almost impossible for a person to truly understand the weight of God's grace.

Unless they understand the weight of condemnation that they were under when they were outside of God's grace. Because we have to understand what we deserve to truly understand what we've been forgiven of if we think ourselves to be Righteous or good or worthy then we don't understand grace.

But when we understand that we're wretched and and depraved and Sinful then we understand that this God who saved us has saved us from condemnation. And given us now a position where there is no condemnation.

There is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. Now some of your Bibles will add this phrase Who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. That is a textual variation there.

And I don't really have time to get into what that means but it simply refers to certain manuscripts having a Line and certain manuscripts not having a line and therefore this come there. There are there are debates as to which manuscripts are are the ones that should be used and please don't let that Call into question the integrity of Scripture.

We have more manuscripts of the Bible and the New Testament scriptures than any other manuscript from the ancient world we have thousands and thousands and thousands of handwritten manuscripts that date all the way back into the second century and so when we see Every once in a while a line or something where there's a question about how something was written or how something was expressed.

We have to understand that's the nature of handwritten manuscripts and that doesn't mean that we can't trust what is said just means we have to Investigate and I and I'm of the mind that that particular line is not necessarily authentic or part of the original but it's still true.

Because when we are in Jesus Christ, we are to walk by the Spirit. Amen. So it's not as if it's not true and it does go along with what he says next and that's what we're going to do. Now we're going to look at verse 2.

The Law Cannot Save and Christ Fulfilled It

He says for the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ from the law of sin and death. For God has done what the law That being the law of Moses Weakened by the flesh could not do. Now what could the law not do?

I've said this. I've said this before I give you a hundred cool points if you can tell me. What could the law not do? Save. Thank you. There's a hundred cool points for everybody. They don't mean anything but The law cannot save the flesh.

One Will not keep the law. The flesh is opposed to God and his law. But also the law's intention was not to save. According to Scripture the law had a purpose. The law was the schoolmaster to lead us to Christ.

It was to show us our sin and Paul tells us in Romans 7, which we studied last week. I wouldn't even have known covetousness if the law had not said not covet. But when the law said not covet I became even more covetous because the law it condemned me and showed me how bad of a covetor not right word a Covetous person I was.

So the law doesn't save. The law condemns and. So this is Paul's point. He says God has done what the law Weakened by the flesh could not do. See the law can't save. But what did God do look at the rest of verse 3?

By sending his own Son and the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin He condemned sin in the flesh in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us. Who walk not according to the flesh?

But according to the Spirit you see God sent Christ into the world and guess what Christ did. Christ Actually fulfilled the law. Now that to me is Mind-boggling. I've said it before Christ went 33 years without sin.

I can't go 33 minutes. I mean he 33 years he had siblings. Part of my sinful life is because I got siblings. You know, I got. I got five kids and one on the way. That's why I won't be here next week if the baby ain't here by Tuesday, they're gonna induce.

So we'll have a baby back to you. They win, lose, or draw. And then thank you and this is number six. This is Theodore. He's he's he's our miracle baby. We're 42 my wife and I both. I have to scrub that from the recording.

She won't let me put that. But we are well past what we thought we were gonna have any more children we're gonna have this little baby and I can already know that. That His other siblings are going to bring about there's the stress of sin in his life.

Because they bring about the stress of sin in each other's life. My little one. I have a five-year-old. She went to my dad yesterday. My other two were at school. While she was at my dad's my grant her grandmother gave her a stethoscope.

Little plastic stethoscope. That stethoscope became the moment of contention in my house because she was the only one who had it. Grandma didn't buy three stethoscopes. She bought one so the other two.

I want a stethoscope too and now they're yanking pulling. I want to hear my heart, you know, and they all just demonstrating their depravity. Little vipers in a diaper. That's what little babies demonstrating their sin.

But Christ lived 33 years never sinned. He had siblings. He had a mama. He had a daddy. We don't know how long Joseph lived because the text doesn't tell us anything after Jesus's 12th birthday about Joseph.

So we don't know how long Joseph lived, but he did have a daddy. He had all the things we have in the sense of community people and he never sinned and He condemned flesh. He condemned sin in his flesh by not sinning.

He showed what it was to be a true man. See Adam was supposed to be that man and the sense of Adam was created with no sin and Adam was supposed to represent All mankind by obeying God and being that man.

But instead he represents all mankind by sinning eating of the fruit he wasn't supposed to eat and becoming a rebel against the Holy God and Jesus comes as the second and last Adam to do what Adam couldn't do.

Adam brought sin into the world. Christ shows righteousness to the world and demonstrates that righteousness by Condemning sin in his flesh. He came in the likeness of flesh, but he didn't live like a fleshly man.

He lived as a godly man in an ungodly world and By doing so he shows us what it means to be a true man. God did what the law weakened by the flesh could not do by sending his son and the likeness of sinful flesh and he condemned sin in the flesh.

But then it goes on verse 4 in order that hey, this is the purpose of that. The righteousness the righteous requirement law might be fulfilled in us who walk not according to the flesh. But according to the Spirit see because of what Christ has done and because of our justification and because we have been Given forgiveness and we are now no longer condemned.

We now have the call to live like Christ. That's the call of the believer. Here is your captain captain Jesus and He is the one who shows you how to live. He's the one who gives you the way. This is why he says I am the way the truth in the life.

He is the way to live. In fact, I want to just jump down very quickly and show you something very quickly. Notice it says in verse 29 for those who me foreknew He predestined to be conformed to the image of his son.

You know, I'm not going to get into predestination a lot today. That's a long topic that would take us off top off course, but I will say this. Your salvation your predestination your election Has been given for the purpose not just to go to heaven But to be conformed to the image of Christ.

You were predestined to be conformed to the image of Christ. See people always talk about Election and predestination all that about heaven and it is true That those who are foreknown or predestined and will be in heaven.

But let me tell you this you have not been saved just to go to heaven. But you have been saved to be conformed to the image of your captain. Your captain is the leader that you are called to follow and We have been predestined to be conformed to his image.

People miss this all the time. But do you understand that you have been called not to live for yourself? But to live for him and you've been called not to live to your own desires. But to live to the desires of him who saved you to breathe to.

What does it mean to be conformed to his image? Means to be like him. To be sanctified very good. That's that's the right theological term to be conformed to his image means to be sanctified. In fact, that's the way I define sanctification is the process by which we are conformed to the image of Christ.

And that's absolutely true absolutely true. Now getting back to the beginning of chapter 8 beginning of verse 5 he begins to distinguish between those who are in the flesh and those who are in the spirit and.

And he and I want to I'm going to use the board for a second. Just for a moment. I Want us to kind of create a chart in our mind and we can do look it on the board. Notice he says for those who live in according to the flesh.

Set their minds on the things of the flesh. But those who live according to spirit set their minds on the things of the spirit All right. So first of all, there's an issue of the mind All right, and he's saying he gives it both.

He says those who are who live according to the flesh their mind is on the flesh and those who live according to the spirit Their mind is on the spirit. Now. What is it talking about when it talks about the spirit?

I am convinced because by the way the word spirit the word panuma in the Greek is used over 30 times in this chapter and almost every time it's referring to God's Holy Spirit who comes to live within us when we believe and I do believe that what it's saying is those people Who do not have the spirit in them yet because they're not believers.

Then their mind is set on fleshly things. But those who have the spirit within them because they have been born again. And the spirit now has made an abode within their within them and I know that it's not here but the idea of being in our heart is That their minds have now been changed.

By the way, what does the word repentance mean? Change your mind, right? That's the metanoia means the changing of the mind and the first thing that changes is I go from being a Unbeliever to a believer.

That's the first act of repentance. I repent of unbelief and I become a believer but then my mind is Continually changed to think about what the spirit would have me do rather than what my flesh wants to do and that's the picture that we're given in Scripture is that we have a New mind.

In fact, we're told in Romans 12 what that we are to be transformed by the renewal of our Mind our mind is to be transformed not to be conformed to this world, but to be conformed to Christ. All right so he says.

For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh those who live according the spirits of their minds. On the things of spirit now, here's what we're gonna we're gonna continue with our chart for to set the mind on the flesh is death.

But to set the mind of the spirit is life and peace. All right, so right away he's making a distinction and I would say he's making a distinction between. There's different ways of saying this. We could say the saved or the unsaved.

We can say the regenerate or the unregenerate. We can say the believer or the unbeliever. So we're just going to say here. We're going to say this is the unsaved man. And I'll prove this in a minute, but I do believe this is referring to the unsaved man and this is the saved man.

Like I said, I'm gonna make the argument in a moment. But look with me just continue. He says for to set the mind on the flesh is death that the set this mindless spirit is life and peace for the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God.

This is this is key. Because I want you to just think back to Romans 5 1. Therefore having been justified by faith we have what? Peace peace. No, that was 8 1. 5 1 is peace, right? So what is the unbeliever have?

Hostility. What does the believer have? Peace. So you see the distinction the distinction is between those who are hostile to God. You ever met somebody who was really hostile to God. Every unbeliever and you might not think that.

Every unbeliever is hostile to God. Here's how I prove it. You talk to the unbeliever about God. Some people say yeah, I understand God good. I'm cool with God man upstairs, whatever. Start talking to them about the true God.

The God who condemned sin. The God who killed every man woman and child except for eight in the flood. The God who sent fire on Sodom and Gomorrah and burned them to death and left lots wife in a pile of salt.

You talk to them about that God. They'll quickly become hostile. Talk to them about the God who tells them that abortion is murder and that homosexuality is an abomination. Yeah, they're going to become hostile real fast.

You see that's the thing. They're not hostile to the God of culture. They're hostile to the God of the Bible. The unbeliever unsaved man is always hostile to God when they're introduced to the true God.

I've told this story a thousand times. I'll tell it again that lady in Kmart that I gave the track to you might you remember. I give her the track. I go look at shoes. She walks up to me throws puts a track in my hand.

I don't want this. Don't you want to know why I don't want it? I know why you don't want it. You're hostile to God. I know why you don't want to read the gospel track. You don't like God. Well, my goddess wouldn't send anyone to hell.

That's true. Your goddess don't exist. You didn't made her up in your mind. You don't like the God who does exist so you made up a God that satisfies you. You see unbelievers are not Opposed to the idea of a God who blesses them, but they want to be blessed on their own terms.

They want to be blessed in their way according to their rules and when God the true God the God of Israel the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob the God who sent his son into the world Jesus Christ when he comes along and starts making the rules.

They don't like that. They're hostile to God. So all unbelievers are hostile to God in one sense or another they have hostility and that's what he says he says for the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God and Notice the next this this actually I'm going to do a little extension off the bottom it does not submit to God's law and Then the next thing it says it cannot submit.

This is this is key. It cannot notice what says it says it does not submit to God's law. Indeed it cannot and then verse 8 those in the flesh cannot please God. They cannot please God. People people get up offended when I say this so hold on before anybody throws anything at me.

I ain't wearing my armor today. People will say sometimes they'll ask me well when an unbeliever does something good. Does it please God? Here's what I say again. Think think with me. Don't get mad at me think with me an Unbeliever can do things that are socially good.

They can do things that are that are humanly righteous. But that doesn't mean those things please God because they're still doing them in unbelief. Because they're an unbeliever and the Bible says that which is not of faith is what sin so even when the the philanthropist billionaire pays for Thousands of people to be able to eat from a human perspective.

We'd say that's a good thing but if he's doing it in unbelief, he's still doing it in hostility to God and Therefore it's still not pleasing God. Go ahead. That's right, he's not doing it for the glory of God.

I would agree for a first Corinthians 1031 do everything that you do to the glory of God and when we don't do these things To the glory of God again, it's it's not for that purpose and and he might not be doing it.

Some people do it selfishly some people do it because they want to be known and some people genuinely just want other people to be fed. So I wouldn't say it's always because he's selfish or whatever prideful, but he's not doing it to glorify God.

And therefore he's not doing it for the ultimate reason Yeah, and that's I agree. Yes, sir.

Oh, so basically what you're saying is if somebody's an unbeliever, then anything they do is a sin. Mm-hmm. Yeah, but.

Well, let me back that up. What I'm saying is everything they're doing is an unbelief and it's not pleasing to God. Now we do have to differentiate between breaking God's law and not breaking God's law.

For instance, let's say a man marries. He's an unbeliever. He marries a woman. He lives 30 years. He never commits adultery. Well, then I wouldn't call him an adulterer because he didn't break God's law on that adultery, right?

But did he live his marriage to glorify God? No. So in that sense, I could say it still wasn't pleasing to God because he wasn't doing it to glorify God. And in that sense, I would say yes, but it's not he didn't commit the sin of adultery.

But he is doing he is sinning in the sense of not glorifying God. So it's it's it's it's it's difficult when you say everything they do is sin. But again, you have to come back to the that which is not a faith.

It's in in that sense. It's not it's not meeting the mark. The mark is everything we do is done to the glory of God. They had missed that mark. And so this tells us I'm going to answer your question here.

This tells us to how desperate we are when we come to Christ how much we need him. I was 19 years old when I got saved that means I lived 18 years plus. Because I remember what time when I was 19. So 18 years plus I lived outside of God's Commands doing whatever I wanted.

Doing however, I wanted to live and if at any moment in that if I would have died I Would have faced the justice of God. I would have faced his condemnation and I would have been worthy of it. That's the point.

I would have been worthy of it because I had lived outside of his commands for for 19 years. So yeah in that sense very much. Yes, sir.

Believers are chosen by God. Yes, and the unbelievers If they're destined By God and they're going to hell. Yes.

Okay, or they're just not going to this is a longer question. Which I don't know. I don't know. I don't mind answering but we are. Let me give you the let me give you this short answer. Because when we address the will of God We have to discuss God's will in regard to what we call his will of Prescription and his will of decree.