March 10, 2021 Show with Senator Doug Mastriano PLUS Colonel Kevin Jarrard on “Standing Firm for Truth with Optimism in Dark Days”

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This is Chris Arnzen, your host of Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, wishing you all a happy Wednesday on this

10th day of March 2021.

And I am thrilled to have both a first -time guest for the first hour and

a returning guest for the second hour.

They're both going to be addressing the same theme, standing firm for truth with

optimism in dark days.

My first guest will be Senator Doug Mastriano of Pennsylvania's 33rd District.

My second guest during the second hour will be Colonel Kevin Girard, Deputy Chief of

Staff, Marine Forces Southern Command, and an elder serving

alongside Pastor Ray Rhodes of Grace Community Church of Dawsonville, Georgia.

And providentially, it turns out, I didn't even know this when I first invited Colonel Girard

to be on the program, he was a student of my first guest

at the War College in Carlisle, Pennsylvania.

And let me give him a more formal introduction.

Senator Doug Mastriano is a combat veteran and son of a career U .S. Navy man

who retired from the U .S. Army after 30 years of active duty as a colonel, a doctor

of history with a Ph .D. and four master's degrees, author of

Thunder in the Argonne, A New History of America's Greatest Battle, and Alvin York, A New

Biography of the Hero of the Argonne, and co -editor of Pershing's Lieutenants,

American Military Leadership in World War I, who has appeared on Tucker Carlson and numerous

national radio programs.

It's my honor and privilege to welcome you for the very first time ever to Iron Triple Design Radio, Senator Doug Mastriano.

Chris, thank you for having me.

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Well, we have a tradition here on Iron Triple Design Radio, Senator Mastriano, whenever we

have a first -time guest, we have that guest give a summary of their salvation

testimony, including what kind of religious atmosphere you were raised in, if any,

and what kind of providential circumstances our Sovereign Lord raised up in your life that drew you to

himself and saved you.

So why don't we begin with that?

You know, I'm not

particularly

religious.

I was in a youth group.

And I went, and they gave

me the

Way Bible.

Remember the Way Bible?

Yes, yes.

It was back and forth.

I'm like, what?

You have quite the illustrious career in the military.

And I was planning on mentioning most of the, or at least

a lot of the things that you have accomplished in the military.

But if I had done that, we would be out of time before the actual interview started.

But when in your life, and why and how in your life,

did an interest in joining the military enter into your mind to begin with?

Ever since I was five.

Wow.

Part of

my

abdomen

got

caught

on

the

hatch

or

something, and he said he woke up sitting Indian -style in a puddle with his intestines flowing.

I remember asking him, I said, what did you do?

He's like, in his favorite comfort words, you know what I mean?

I went to the aid station, back to the front.

Wow.

Praise

God.

And you already mentioned that you were a history buff, or

at least began to love history as a very young child.

How did that begin in your life where it reached the point where you actually have earned a doctorate in the

study of history?

So as a kid, one

of my,

after that I was

turned on.

I believe there's not a lot of history.

Yeah, wow.

Well, how did God use your experiences in the military to

mold you and shape you and make you a better man, to prepare you to serve him in a

greater capacity?

Yeah, so it's unfortunate that a lot of people,

maybe you can grab it, Ryan, where you may realize that that might be true

going into the Army and the early days of the Chief of Staff, and

we just,

it's a

fire truck, that's

not

allowed.

I mean, we just like them

to try to be disciplined and ordained, and try to sharpen their character muscle and strive for

these ideals.

The Army held up a lot of Christian models, even today, ironically, like

Alvin York, the two Germans, but who entered the fight that

day in 1918, 8 October, as a conscientious objector.

He was ridiculed and mocked, or Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain at

Gettysburg, a little round pop, who had a severe stuttering problem.

Most of

the vignettes advocated by

the Army, even today in our leadership, they say, look, these are the

models.

This is how they made a difference by everyday striving.

We see Alvin York and Colonel Chamberlain on the battlefield.

Yeah, you, speaking of Alvin York, it just reminded me of

the Army medic Desmond Doss, who was a World War

II medic, and I don't know if you saw the movie Hacksaw Ridge, but

apparently it was a very true -to -life depiction of what he experienced in battle and the

heroics that God used him to perform, amazing heroics bordering on the miraculous,

because at the end of the program, they had his actual comrades in arms

who were still living, giving the testimony of what he had done for them.

And he vowed not to ever carry a gun on the battlefield,

but he wanted, he insisted, in fact, on going into battle

because he did not want to leave others to do this without the aid

of a medic, and he turned out to be, after, just

like Alvin York, after being mocked and even beaten up

for being a coward and a weakling and a sissy and on and on a week ago, he turns out to be one of the

greatest heroes of World War II.

Now, before I go into some of your role, your fairly

new role as a senator, I wanted to ask you about some of your books

here.

Why did you choose to write about the Argonne?

The specific title is Thunder in the Argonne, a new history of America's greatest battle.

Were there things about that battle that were not yet recorded in a

published work or perhaps not on a popular reading level or what have you?

What was the catalyst that made you write about that specific battle?

So the first book was one of over a

million American soldiers.

It was going to be cut short, and thankfully it was.

And your latest work that you co -edited, Pershing's Lieutenants, American

Military Leadership in World War I, what was the inspiration for getting involved in that project?

So Major General Lebecki, I'll call him the lead editor, it was his book idea, and he's

published by Lebecki.

Wow.

Well, I know that all of these books are available on Amazon.

Is there anywhere else that you want to recommend where our listeners can get a hold of them?

Amazon is the best.

And as I

already announced in my introduction of you, you are a senator in

Pennsylvania's 33rd District.

First of all, what would be the responsibilities and roles of a senator?

So obviously in our General Assembly.

And were you surprised that you won?

There are a comparative few

outspoken, very conservative, born -again believers that I

am personally aware of anyway in politics, and I know that you despise

calling yourself a politician.

Thank you.

But there are many who call themselves Christian, but I

have my doubts about many, I'm not going to mention them obviously, but I have my doubts about even many conservatives

in the Republican Party who identify themselves as Christian because of things that they wind up saying or

doing that makes me scratch my head.

But were you expecting to win your Senate race?

I don't know.

I am

just really as

I was.

Do you try to do something?

Praise God.

Well, we have to go to our first station break.

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This is Chris Arnzen.

If you just tuned us in, our guest for the first hour is Senator Doug Mastriano.

And he and the second guest, who happened to be a student of his at the War

College in Carlisle, Pennsylvania, Colonel Kevin Girard, they are both

discussing standing firm for truth with optimism in dark days.

If you have a question, send it to ChrisArnzen at gmail .com, C -H -R -I -S -A -R

-N -Z -E -N at gmail .com.

And as always, give us your first name at least, your city and state, and your country of residence if you live outside the USA.

And I probably don't have to tell you, Senator Mastriano, that many of

your fellow Christians and other conservatives are weighed down with pessimism due to the unexpected

results from the recent presidential election.

They believe the presidency was stolen.

They doubt the next election will be free from fraud as well.

Do you see any reasons, tangible ones, realistic ones, for optimism that we

will have an honest election that we can trust in four years?

Well, one thing I do know is that if we don't get out

and vote, as far as last year, every

legal and constitutional,

all we wanted was transparency.

All we wanted was an audit.

And of

course,

because Governor

Wolf

liked

the

outcome, the

people,

the

idea.

Well, we have a listener that you know who has

submitted a question.

He is actually, or has been, a guest of mine here on Iron Sharpens Iron Radio

a number of times, most recently to discuss a book that he co -authored with two

doctors.

One of them is my new general practitioner, Dr. Joel Yeager, in Newmanstown,

Pennsylvania, of Heritage Family Health.

I thank God for Ernie Springer, who is our questioner from Lancaster,

Pennsylvania, because without providentially interviewing Ernie on this book

that he co -authored with Dr. Yeager and Dr. Daniel O 'Rourke, I never would have known of

Dr. Yeager.

And he actually got me off insulin and told me that I never should have been prescribed insulin to begin

with.

So that was quite a shock and a pleasant shock, but still disturbing that I was prescribed

this drug unnecessarily.

But that's not the topic of our discussion today.

Ernie Springer, co -author of The Coronavirus and The Leadership of the Christian Church is Sacred,

Trustbroken, has a question for you.

And he asks, would the Senator please explain how his Christian faith

governs his decisions and actions as he seeks to serve the people of the Commonwealth of

Pennsylvania?

Wow, Ernie from Lancaster and I together, what a small world.

You see, the left, I mean,

you know, but notice they never have to leave.

And you should be able to live your life as you see fit, as you want.

You believe in the

biblical concepts.

That means you support the ideals of

a foundation.

I know.

Yeah, I can vividly remember President

Bill Clinton being interviewed by a young woman, college

student on NBC, who identified herself as an evangelical

Christian.

And she asked President Clinton what role the Bible played

in his life.

And President Clinton said how much he loved the Bible,

that the Bible is his favorite book.

He reads the Bible every day.

And on and on we could go with the high praises for

the Bible that President Clinton gave.

And he said, just because I believe in the Bible and love the Bible does not mean I have to

have the Bible drive and determine my policies as president.

I thought that was the most moronic and ridiculous answer to that

question.

Because if you do love the Bible, you must believe it's true.

So therefore, why wouldn't you want to have that as your source for decisions you make in the highest

office in the free world?

That doesn't make any sense.

That's

a

politician

who's

sadly colonized.

William Wilberforce saw these disgusting non -Christian believing men

and women and families from Africa, evangelical Christian minister of parliament in England, that would

like to love the Lord, by the way, by using graves, former slave ship captains.

Yeah, you were saying that the left

can, with impunity, boast of their deeply

held religious faith.

We have Nancy Pelosi doing that on an ongoing basis, declaring that

she is a faithful Roman Catholic.

You have Raphael Warnock, who

pastors the church formerly pastored by Martin Luther King Jr., currently a

junior United States senator from Georgia, obviously

being unashamed about his cherished faith and using

biblical allegories when speaking about problems in the United States, and might I

add, I think, twisting them in such a way that they are rendered heretical and blasphemous.

But it's interesting how it is completely acceptable for them to

declare their allegiance to their religion when they are on the left, and yet it is a pariah, it

is considered a dangerous step towards a theocracy and religious tyranny when the

right does the same.

And even when we are speaking of those that claim their

ideology comes purely from secular thought, isn't it not true that when you

passionately believe in things that do have religious ramifications, and

when you believe in them religiously and you're devoted to them,

for instance, whenever you believe something is right and good and celebratory,

like murdering unborn children, like the attempts of changing one's

gender, even though we know that cannot really happen, and things like that, you are taking a religious position,

whether you declare that or not, because you are saying God is a liar.

You're saying the word of God is a liar, or the word of God is false, and it's not really the word of God at all.

So isn't this rhetoric and the ideology that we hear from the left, can we not

accurately label it as religion, and that they really have no business saying that we

can't mix or should not mix politics and religion when they are in reality

doing that very thing, even if they refuse to call it religion?

I am.

They hold one measure.

It's ironic and sad that they can't even

see that they're being

inconsistent.

You know, they'll celebrate

Buttigieg, a 30 -year veteran like me, and I'm like, villainized.

It's like,

what?

Unless

you

vote

their way.

The drama in New

York, the pace of sending this

science -denying, ridiculous

policy, it takes

good ones

out there,

but overwhelmingly, where were they?

Did they do stories?

Did they show Levine as somebody incompetent who had policies that were destructive?

Did

they show

Levine

doing investigative save lives, by the way, would it

matter?

Because this policy was against

Levine.

They had rallies, all

that kind of

stuff, you

know,

about

a

Republican

you like

or trust.

You just ask yourself, is that?

And who is this reporter?

Did he do any?

It drives me crazy.

We can't grow weary doing good.

I just work for one side.

Well, Senator Mastriano, if you could, in a minute, summarize what you most want etched in the hearts and

minds of our listeners today before you leave the program, and I hope the next time you come back on the program,

God willing, that you stay with us for two hours.

But if you could, just summarize what you most want our audience to remember today.

Just remember who we are.

Remember.

You know, in Joshua chapter 4, when the children

of Israel cross over

their promised land,

and he wanted this.

Amen.

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Thank you so much for being such an excellent guest, Senator Mastriano, and I look forward to your return to Iron Trump and Zion Radio.

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Bye -bye.

Bye -bye now.

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We are continuing the theme that we began with our first guest, Senator Doug Mastriano,

standing firm for truth with optimism in dark days, and it is my honor and

privilege to welcome back to the program after a long absence Colonel Kevin Gerard, a Deputy

Chief of Staff, Marine Forces Southern Command, and an elder serving alongside

Pastor Ray Rhodes of Grace Community Church of Dawsonville, Georgia.

It's great to have you back on the program, Colonel Kevin Gerard.

Chris, thank you so much for the invitation.

Just hearing Colonel Mastriano, Senator Mastriano's name brings back warm memories.

One of my very favorite professors during my time at the Army War College, and of course just

hearing from you brings back good memories of our sojourn in Carlisle, at

Grace Baptist during our year in

Carlisle.

So it's good to be with you, brother.

It's great to have you back, and I hope that you are able to at some point while I'm there

in the Atlanta area, actually in Atlanta from September 30th

through October 2nd for this year's G3 conference.

I hope that you have some time to either attend that conference or at least to have lunch with me or breakfast or dinner with me

while I am in Atlanta.

Well, we look forward to it, Chris.

Folks in our church provide some technical support to the G3 conference, and a

number of our members, we encourage everyone to attend the G3 conference.

So I hope to make it down this year myself and look forward to seeing you, brother.

Amen.

Well, let me repeat our email address if anybody has questions for our guest, Colonel Kevin Gerard.

ChrisArnzen at gmail .com.

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Give us your first name, at least your city and state and country of residence.

Before we go into a continuation of the theme, Standing Firm for Truth with

Optimism in Dark Days, the theme that we began during the first hour with Senator Mastriano, tell our

listeners about Grace Community Church of Dawsonville, Georgia.

Yes.

And then

a subsequent book about their marriage.

So Pastor Ray has been in existence.

And the way I describe

it, we hear Scripture faithfully preached from our

pulpit, and that's what we pray will be done there for there

in Dawsonville.

We're very thankful for the godly people.

And your church firmly stands upon the doctrines of sovereign grace, do you not?

That's absolutely right.

And the doctrines of grace

begins with our faith theology proper.

A high view of God, of course, leads you to the inevitable conclusion that the

doctrines are the foundation on which to stand.

And so we love God's Word, and we're thankful for

the body of Christ there.

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And Dawsonville is spelled D -A -W -S -O -N -ville.

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Well, providentially, it seems, when I asked you to participate in

this program, number one, I didn't know that you were a student of Senator Doug Mastriano at

the War College here in Carlisle, Pennsylvania.

And number two, I didn't know that you were in the midst of studying Scripture

that very much lends itself to speaking on the subject that we have today, standing

firm for truth with optimism in dark days.

If you could explain.

Sure.

I heard that theme.

I immediately, my thoughts ran to the gospel of Habakkuk.

We read through our weekly worship services.

We're in the book of Habakkuk.

And I can't think of a more appropriate text that matches up to your theme of

standing firm with optimism in the midst of dark

days.

Scripture is always to be taken in its immediate context, so the immediate application of

truth and

hope, and

you

will

not hear,

never goes forth.

The foundation, the boundary stones,

heaven and

earth, faces them,

gives us hope in our day.

It should not fly.

Yet I will rejoice in the God of my salvation.

He makes me

find places.

Amen.

I would like to ask you the same question I asked

Senator Mastriano about how the Lord used your own military experience

to help further mold and shape you and prepare you to be a servant of Christ

in greater ways than you might have been able to serve otherwise.

Sure.

Whenever someone thanks me for my service, my response is always the same.

I think the Lord

has used that to discipline

my mind and my body, me and situations, and

experience my faith in Christ.

Anytime we're faced with

being at war,

increasingly place our faith and trust in the Lord Jesus.

I want to say, you know, we are eternity

amnesiac,

eternal person in life, in uniform, constantly up against

mortality, keeps that thought fresh in our

minds that today maybe my

life may be

camaraderie.

It has been my experience as well, been able to

pray with young Marines and sailors in various environments.

My response was always the same.

Well, two

Psalms,

the 91st were in my mind,

the opportunity I've had to serve, we're

in the cloth of our country.

Praise God.

And we have Arnie in Perry County, Pennsylvania, who has a question for you.

He wants to know if you have any anecdotes to share with the listeners

about fellow comrades in arms who came to Christ while you

were serving with them in the military, either on the battlefield or otherwise.

Arnie, thank you for that question.

One of my tours in

Iraq in 2007 and 2008,

hardened Marine, noncommissioned officer,

any measurement, and serving alongside him in those days, and I would say

not primarily through my influence, maybe my example perhaps, but

primarily through the immediate unit,

to see a man walking in one direction and then to

repentance and follow Christ and the transformation of his

life was a memory that I cherish.

Again, I would attribute that primarily to the other believers in his immediate vicinity,

continued to walk faithfully with the Lord in the years since.

Thank you, Arnie.

One of the major aspects of our theme today is optimism,

maintaining optimism as we stand firm for truth in dark days.

That can be very difficult because we have a problem as human beings very often,

seeing beyond those things that are occurring all around us.

We tend to become very pessimistic.

I even know post -millennialists who can be very pessimistic.

And down and depressed and aggravated and frustrated and furious.

How do we maintain that optimism without at the same time

being self -deluded, even appearing delusional to others

around us, perhaps unrealistic expectations that we may

have, that kind of a thing.

We see all these horrific things.

There are new developments every day in the news about all

kinds of things involving the abomination of homosexuality and

transgenderism, so -called, and the loss of rights on

and on and on.

Every day it seems that Bible -believing Christians are either losing rights

legally or having cherished rights threatened to be removed.

Tell us, how can we maintain this idea of optimism, this attitude of optimism?

Yeah, I think that's very pertinent.

I'm reminded of John 16.

Christ is a

command, right?

It's not an exhortation.

He's commanding us.

And so I like to say cheerfulness is our duty.

But in the context of that passage, John 16, 33, that's certainly

not a name -it -and -claim -it heretical sort of cheer.

Immediately previous to that, he says, in the world you will have not health and

riches and happily ever after.

He says, in the world you will have tribulation.

So Christ promises that we will suffer.

But the command is, but be of good cheer.

I have overcome the world.

So I think there's a sense in that we must be happy warriors, Chris.

And the key to that, I think, is to have an eternal life.

We are pilgrims.

While we are called to fight the good fight here on life under the sun,

none of us should imagine

we

are

believers in history, opposition, and tribulation.

What Christians in America have experienced over a relatively long time is an

anomaly, right?

I think the norm

is that

we maintain our cheerfulness in the face

of adversity.

Amen.

And we have Ronald in Eastern Suffolk County, New York, who says,

Sometimes people wrongly think that if you have an optimistic outlook, that you

are lacking in your concern or your compassion for those around you who are

suffering, or you have a flippant attitude towards a crisis or trial

that those around you are experiencing.

How are we able to maintain optimism without giving that false message to those that know and love us?

I think there is something, another command

of Scripture reminded,

Pollyannish, suffering and

injustice, the time for us to weep and lament.

There is a time for us to be angry and

arrogant about the evil that we see.

But undergirding those, I think, must be a relentless

fixation that every

pain, when I wake up in the morning, every bruising,

and we should mind

it.

I think, Chris, we expect too much of a world that's right.

Why do we see the skyrocketing rates of suicide?

Promises you cannot possibly deliver.

And so they become disillusioned

and

momentary.

Our Lord Jesus says, Well done, my good and faithful servant, enter into my rest.

Amen.

Amen.

We have Susan Margaret in Dauphin County, Pennsylvania, who asks, What

Scriptural texts do you return to again and again when you are in the midst of a crisis or

trial?

I find this strange, coming from a Marine, Chris.

The more you see, the more you're afraid of.

Isaiah 40 will affirm a

foundation.

Fear not, I am with thee, oh be not dismayed.

For I am thy God and will

stand upheld hand.

As a Marine, from time to time I'm called on to jump out of an airplane with a parachute.

Not too long ago, you can't

hear anything in there as to when we get on the

ground.

And I said, Oh no, no, no, Sergeant.

What I was saying was, God, I am with thee.

Amen.

Verse 20.

And then the turn comes.

She's never come to an end.

But this I call to mind,

and therefore I have hope.

And as it ever should be for God's people, when we are at the end of ourselves, we

are to call to mind, not some mystical strength that comes from within

ourselves, His promises, that His mercies never come to

an end.

They are new every morning.

Amen.

I have repeated this verse many times on this program, and I know that

just like many things that are true, they can sometimes be turned into

trite placards, if you will.

They may be spoken to people with insensitivity, devoid of compassion

and feeling.

They're just hurled at people sometimes when they're going through the midst of a trial.

But that doesn't make the scriptural statement any less true.

And I'm talking about Romans 8 .28.

And we know that God causes all things to work together for good

to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose.

A lot of people quote the first half of that.

They stop at God causes all things to work together for good, period.

No, it's to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose.

Don't we have to, if we really want to put our money where our mouth is, as the saying goes,

if we really want to believe in the scriptures where the rubber meets the road,

another cliche, we have to even say

the election of Joe Biden is going to work together for our good.

I don't mean everybody in the nation or the world.

I mean everybody who is truly regenerate in Christ's church.

Everything that is occurring around us that even is

nightmarishly horrific, mind -bogglingly

satanic, and on and on we could go, we have to constantly remind ourselves that this

too or these too will work together for good for those who love

God, to those who are called according to His purpose.

Don't we have to remind ourselves of that constantly?

Absolutely.

God was not surprised by the election of the

United States of America.

Scriptures clearly tell us that the heart of the king is love.

Any student of biblical history sees how the Lord,

pagan king, be employed according to His purposes.

Nebuchadnezzar was an instrument of godliness of the

Israelites.

So we can rest assured that there are no, again, I quote Dr.

Sproul again, there's no maverick molecules in the universe.

Certainly there are no maverick world leaders.

And so we can rest assured that God is not surprised.

God is not shaken.

His sovereignty is not called into question by the election.

We must view

this as

that we have godly

stand in the midst of increasing darkness.

Amen.

We have to go to our final break right now.

And if you have a question to ask, send it in immediately because we're rapidly running out of time.

This is a shorter than normal break.

So send in your email to ChrisArnson at gmail .com.

ChrisArnson at gmail .com.

Don't go away.

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Don't go

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what you most want etched in the hearts and minds of our listeners today on this theme that we have been

discussing throughout the entirety of the program, Standing Firm for Truth with Optimism in Dark

Days.

What do you want most etched in the hearts and minds of our listeners about that today?

I think, Chris, reminding ourselves as believers that we

are to be eternally minded, that any time we start to depend upon the

things of this world to deliver ultimate satisfaction,

we're going to be disillusioned ourselves.

City, thought and mind,

remember that this is not our home.

And that

our happiness

with

satisfaction from the things around us.

Now, praise be to God that friends and many things that might make

us happy, but our circumstance, I

think, is...

We have an anonymous listener who has a question for you.

During these dark days that we live in, do you recommend and encourage people that you know

to enlist in the military?

It seems, though, that the military is taking some official positions that are anti -Christian,

anti -Scripture, a lot of it driven by intersectionality and the

social justice warrior movement and critical race theory.

What do you have to say about this?

And if you do still encourage people to enlist in the military, how do you do that?

Yeah, that's a great question.

All of those...

Most...

Theory in general.

It's beyond just...

Fascinated with

the devil and Karl Marx.

To the immediate question, I think, really, it goes beyond should you enlist in the

military.

Those challenges are going to face Americans in every vocation.

I mean, you're going to be...

Medicine and in business.

And so the question for believers is...

I live out my faith very...

Contrary...

And as long as I'm able to live out my faith as a member of the

armed

service form,

to the point where it says you

cannot service in our government,

then the choice for Christians will...

Equally...

Have not been...

Now, that day may come, Chris.

So, you know, the stages of revolution...

That which was formerly...

And anyone who...

How much freedom do Bible -believing evangelical Protestant

chaplains have in the military today?

How much liberty do they have to speak freely what their convictions are?

Yeah, that's a great question.

I think it varies greatly.

Chris, my experience has been the...

Chaplains are to interpersonal violence.

Killing or be killed.

The more...

Evangelical...

When you're faced with ultimate realities of life and death, many of the...

Removed you are in the armed service...

From killing or be...

I think the more you see false religion...

My experience...

Evangelical chaplains...

The truths of the Bible...

We have seen and we may continue to increasingly see those sorts of

beliefs being challenged by those in authority.

My experience...

I've served...

But I, of course, if that's not universal...

Infantryman as an infantry officer has led me closer to the idea of...

When you're faced with those ultimate realities.

Now, one, there is an irony that is currently taking place.

Those who are in leadership in godless, atheistic, communist

China, those involved in the highest positions of government

there have become highly alarmed about the feminizing

of men in China.

Isn't it remarkable that in this land that we live in, where

religious liberty still exists, that is based on Judeo

-Christian belief and ethic, we have become...

We have come to celebrate the feminizing of men.

Do you see this as being just as much a danger as the communist Chinese do?

Yeah, Chris.

I mean, as biblical Christians, we celebrate the differences between men and women, right?

We praise God for those differences.

Not better or worse, not weaker or stronger, but just simply differences.

And so I think what we'll see...

It'll be interesting.

Even the Chinese communists acknowledge reality.

They're seeing it

with their...

Increasingly, we're going to come up against reality,

men and women.

And how do we wrestle with that?

How do we reconcile that as a fairy tale

that there are no differences between men and women?

You have

Americans,

right?

A doctor doesn't assign the anatomy.

I don't even like the idea of gender assigned at birth.

It's the gender acknowledge your

challenges in America.

But I think reality, in the end, will triumph.

Listen to those who call the transgender movement

the

transgender

moment, a biblical...

And we're out of time.

I want to repeat your church website, GraceChurchDawsonville .org.

GraceChurchDawsonville .org.

That's for Grace Community Church of Dawsonville, Georgia.

GraceChurchDawsonville .org.

And let's not forget about a website of your lead pastor there,

Ray Rhodes Jr., who is also an author.

Go to RayRhodesJr .com.

RayRhodesJr .com.

I want to thank you so much for being such a superb guest once again, Colonel Gerard.

I look forward to your return.

And I hope that you all always remember for the rest of your lives that Jesus Christ is a far greater Savior than you

are a sinner.

Amen.

Thank you, Brother Chris.

Always a pleasure.

Thank you, brother.