Conversation with Sister Missionaries

Isaiah 43 and the Claim That God Is Unique

How you guys doing? Good you guys have a minute to talk about Jesus.

I'm not interviewing anybody. Yeah, but um yeah, we were just wondering we were reading. In Isaiah 43 10 it says Ye are my witnesses saith the Lord and my servant whom I have chosen that ye may know and believe me and Understand that I am he before me there was no God formed neither shall there be after me Even I am the Lord and beside me.

There is no Savior, so we have trouble with that because Essentially LDS doctrine teaches that we can progress to Godhood. Have you heard that doctrine eternal progression before? What do you think of that?

Okay. Okay, gotcha, so look I have a question. So if you will never be Just like God the question is is say you have a husband right. And then Comes the second coming. He calls your name or whatever name he chooses to call you.

So you get up and go to celestial glory with him and you guys have spiritual offspring in the pre-existence. Would they receive or would they. Would they give worship to your husband just like God receives worship now.

If given like your own universe like Elohim father has here now Would would your husband in that new creation be worshiped. Is what we're asking.

Really don't know what's gonna come after this life and but all we believe is just like what my companion said that we will Become like God. Okay, and we will be perfected like him, but that's something that we'll find out.

Yeah, no, for example, like one of you guys is prophets. Lorenzo snow. He says as God is man once was and as man It or as man is God once was and as God is man may become. Maybe those are the words of the prophets.

Assume that you would receive worship one day, you know, and I think it's good to be honest about that. But one of the biggest questions is have you ever guys tested the words of your prophets to Scripture?

Have you ever tested the claims of Joseph Smith? How do you test the words of your prophet to Scripture?

But we are just people sure. But it's up to each individual themselves to ask those questions in prayer looking to the Scriptures.

Testing Prophets by Scripture

So you should test the prophets that I'm glad I'm glad you say that yeah in a Deuteronomy 18 It says here. And it shall come to pass that whosoever shall not hearken unto my words, which he shall speak in my name I'll required of him.

But the prophet which shall presume to speak a word in my name. Which I have not commanded him to speak or that shall speak in the name of other gods. Even that prophet shall die with which is intense right a false prophet gets the death penalty.

According to God if though and if thou say in thine heart. How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken when a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord that thing follow? Not nor shall it come to pass that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken.

But the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously that shall not be afraid of him. So we look at these tests of Scripture and and we're not trying to rob you of your faith or anything. You know, no need to be on guard.

We care for you. You know, we just want to have discussions with our LDS neighbors out here. So when we look at that. We test some of the profit the prophecies that Joseph Smith Brigham Young any of the prophets have given and we test them according to that.

The Bible makes it clear if they speak one thing presumptuously, they're even worthy of the death penalty. It's such a serious offense to God and so, you know, we would just Urge you to look even a quick Google Google search will show.

You know non anti LDS websites even will show there's many false prophecies by Joseph Smith. You know, they he prophesied that Jesus Christ would come in his generation in the 1800s Christ hasn't returned at the the what the temple in Independence, Missouri would be built a final temple.

And then the end would come that never happened. So again, we just look at those and It comes up wanting so. We are evangelical Christians we we go to a Baptist Church, I know. Oh my gosh Baptist. That's a bad word.

You know, no, I know right but so we don't again want you to lose faith. We want we want to help you and have faith in the one true and living God that that there is no God before him. There is no God after him.

I won't become a god. He won't become a god and and we are here to preach that message to you that message of hope that you can have peace with Christ With with the true God. And so my fear is when you take God and you make him a Being who was once a man you take away from his divinity from his deity.

You make him out to be a different God. So that's my concern. What do you guys think?

False Prophets, Another God, and a Different Jesus

Yeah test the spirits guys because according to Scripture Joseph Smith fails the test of a prophet and Deuteronomy 13 is another test where it states if a if a prophet or a dreamer of Dreams arises among you and produces miracles signs and wonders.

So even if it looks legit, but leads you after other gods gods of which you have not known do not believe them. This is Deuteronomy 13. So the question is is how do you know if Joseph led you after another God 2nd Corinthians 11 verse 4?

And we'll leave you with this. All right, just to think about 2nd Corinthians 11 verse 4 Paul warns us. He says there's people who will come and they'll preach a different Jesus a different gospel who will accept a different spirit, right?

So I believe that you guys prayed and had a burning in the bosom and felt something. That's not how scripture in the Bible says to know what truth is God's Word defines truth. John 17 17 sanctify them by the truth.

Thy word is truth, right? So the question is is how do we know if Joseph led you after another God for example? Psalm 90 verse 2 says God has been God from everlasting into everlasting. He has no beginning.

No end. Jesus in Revelation says he's the same as yesterday today and forever the same Joseph Smith on the other hand in the King Follett discourse He says you have imagined and supposed that God has been God from all eternity.

I will refute that idea and take away the veil so that you may see you have got to learn to become gods. It's the words of your prophet the Bible Isaiah 43 10 before me. There was no God form. Neither shall there be after me Isaiah 44 6.

I'm the first and I'm the last beside me. The Bible says he shares his glory with none other. Joseph led you after another gods, and I believe you've been deceived and it's with a burned heart that I say that.

Jesus, the Burning Bush, and the True God

Yeah, so if you don't believe in the true Jesus of Scripture because Jesus says in his own words Unless you believe that I am you will die in your sins. That's the divine eternal name of God if you don't believe that in the burning bush passage.

Remember when what God says, you know Moses says who am I to tell the Hebrews who you are? And he says tell them I am I am that I am I. Yahweh is is the divine name. So Jesus ascribes that name to himself.

He says before Abraham was I am Yahweh. I'm God. I'm the one true God. So he is that eternal aspect of him.

So if you're led after a different Jesus, you don't have an atonement for your sins. Instead you try to make up that righteousness yourself. Yeah. So our cult for you today is to test the spirits. Repent with your trust in the true and living God the eternal God who took on flesh and died on the cross for our.

Security for the. Oh, yes, sir. So I'm gonna interrupt you just just to let you know that we have a policy against you guys proselytizing.