Transubstantiation (Part 2)

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I'm trying to finish the discussion on transubstantiation.

Transubstantiation is one of the four views of the Lord's Supper of communion.

And what the Roman Catholics teach when it comes to transubstantiation is what we looked at last week.

I thought it was very interesting because if it's really changed, the bread is changed into the body of Christ and then

you drop it or a mouse nibbles on it, is the mouse nibbling on the body of Christ?

And according to Aquinas, the answer would be yes because it's actually changed into

Jesus's body once the sentence is completed of consecration by

the priest.

Secondly, I find it interesting that you've got questions that we looked at last time when

the cup, the wine, is consecrated and then turns into the blood of Jesus.

Remember some of the things on catholic .com, the answers, the official answers on catholic .com.

If you add some wine to the blood of Jesus that looks like wine, tastes like wine, smells

like wine, and if you drink enough of it, it makes you drunk like wine.

If you drink, if you pour some real wine, pour some Mogan David 2020,

MD 2020, into the chalice that has the so -called blood of

Jesus, what happens?

And the answer according to catholics .com is you have part blood, part wine.

Even though you can't tell the difference, it is still, at least they're consistent and I'll give them credit for that.

Lutherans have a different view.

They have the view of the Lord's Supper called consubstantiation and Luther would emphasize

the importance of Christ and his words, this is my body, but he would see through

the lens of the omnipresence of God that the Lord is with, under, or by

the communion elements.

You've also got John Calvin and he would have the Reformed view of the Lord's Supper, the spiritual presence of the Lord

there, not physical presence.

Luther denied the physical presence as well.

And you have lastly, probably the most popular in evangelical circles, baptistic circles, is the Zwinglian view,

Ulrich Zwingli, from Switzerland and Zurich,

Switzerland.

I've stood in his church before, his old church, and his view would be memorial.

Do this in remembrance of me.

You would just call to memory what Christ has done, and who he is, his claims, what he's done at the

atoning cross, et cetera.

And so Rome's views are the most fascinating because once you start down a

path and you have canon law and you have something that is taught by the church, it's hard

to go back.

It's very hard to go back.

And last time, remember what we looked at?

We looked at things like Roman Catholic doctrine where the people can't receive the

wine.

For a long time, the Lateran Council confirmed by Trent that people couldn't receive the wine.

Why?

I don't know, it's expensive, but probably more importantly, you could get sick by the common cup or the common

chalice.

And you could also, remember there was a question last week from, could you get sick from

wine contaminated by someone else if they're drinking from the common chalice?

And the answer was yes.

I don't know how that all works, but that's one more fascinating thing.

And then you don't want the people to spill the blood of Jesus because then you run into a sticky wicket.

And something so sticky, I just dropped my pen.

On Catholics .com, the priest was not concerned about

spilling the blood of Jesus.

And somebody wrote in to ask a question.

Here's what they said at Catholics .com for an answer.

What the priest told you is in part correct and in part incorrect.

The correct part is that when the elements no longer have the appearance of bread or wine, Christ ceases to be

present.

If a drop of the precious blood has dried, it no longer has the appearance of wine, and so Christ

is not present.

Okay, this is historic Catholic teaching.

Christ remains present only so long as the species of bread and wine maintain the appearances

of bread and wine.

So when the bread and wine, which is now the body and blood of Christ, go down

through your esophagus into your stomach and then the gastric acids begin to eat away, once it's no longer

looking like bread, it's no longer the body of Christ.

They go on in Catholic Answers.

This is the teaching of Thomas Aquinas.

Quote, Aquinas, if there be such change on the part of the accidents, in

italics, in brackets, appearances, as would not have sufficed for the corruption of the bread and wine,

then the body and blood of Christ do not cease to be under this sacrament on account of such change, whether the change

be on the part of the quality as, for instance, excuse me, when the color or the

savor of the bread or wine is slightly modified, or on the part of the quantity as when the bread or wine

is divided into such parts as to keep in them the nature of bread or wine.

You think, oh, this is as boring as I'll get out.

All right, well, it's older.

Aquinas was smart, I'll give him credit, and he was consistent.

Aquinas goes on, but if the change be so great that the substance of the bread or wine would have been corrupted, then Christ's

body and blood do not remain under the sacrament, and this either on the part of the

qualities as when the color, savor, or other qualities of the bread and wine were so altered as to be

incompatible with the nature of bread or of wine, or else on the part of the quantity as,

for instance, if the bread be reduced to fine particles or the wine divided into such tiny drops that the species

of bread or wine no longer remain, Summa Theologicae 3 .77 .4.

Well, I just get confused, don't you?

This is a very confusing thing, and once you start on the road and make a concession, make a wrong doctrine,

it just gets harder and harder to keep it when people over the centuries ask these kind of

questions.

Now, Catholic's answer says, unfortunately, your priest is flat wrong about the correct thing to do when the precious blood spills.

The church mandates that the place be washed with water, diluting the precious

blood so that it no longer has the appearance of wine and so that Christ ceases to be present.

Isn't that interesting?

So if you spill consecrated wine that's now the blood of Christ onto the

floor and it's in the carpet, Jesus is there and

you need to quickly, Jesus' blood is there, you need to quickly dilute it so once it's so

diluted that it no longer looks like wine, Jesus is no longer there.

And so there's gotta be a point in time where that happens and then you are okay.

Here's what the church teaches.

Then the water is to be poured into the sacrium.

It is not permitted simply to leave a spill alone until it dries.

The general instruction of the Roman Missal, M -I -S -S -A -L, states, quote, 239, if any of the

precious blood spills, the area should be washed and the water poured into the sacrarium, end

quote.

Catholic answer says it is not permissible to pour the precious blood into the sacrarium.

Only the water that was used to wash and dissolve the species under the precious blood

was present may be poured into it.

The U .S. Bishop's document, this Holy and Living Sacrifice document, forcefully states on page

38, quote, it is strictly prohibited to pour the precious blood into the ground or into the

sacrarium.

Well, whether you have a Reformed view of the spiritual presence or a Zwingling view of a simple

memorial, both of those are so much easier.

If you just say to yourself, John 6 has nothing to do with the institution of the Lord's Supper.

Remember, when did that happen?

When was the first Lord's Supper?

The first Lord's Supper was at the last Passover.

The last Passover, we had the first Lord's Supper.

And can you imagine the, as S. Louis Johnson calls it, the arrogant audacity of Jesus

Christ to say, do this in remembrance of me?

We've got this Passover celebration that's an eternal celebration, an ongoing celebration for

the Jewish people about how God, the great Savior, had

a blood spilt in the place of sinners and the death angel, either the death

angel passed over the house and did not kill the firstborn.

There was going to be bloodshed in every house and it was either going to be the sacrifice or it was going to be the

firstborn.

And so here Jesus says, do this in remembrance of me, the last Passover.

That is a very audacious claim unless you were in fact Yahweh.

And we know Jesus is the eternal God.

He is the Lord.

He is Yahweh.

So John 6 has nothing to do with the Passover, has nothing to do with literal

eating and drinking.

The Jews who were dumbfounded because they sadly, like the Roman Catholic

leaders, are not privy to the Spirit's illumination to understand these things,

thought that they were talking, thought he was talking about real flesh.

How can this man give us flesh to eat?

They were wrong.

They reacted to Jesus by this sinful thing that Jesus was

going to ask them to do because it's sinful to drink the blood.

And so now Jesus says, I'm going to tell you with

emphasis, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in yourselves.

He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life and I will raise him up on the last

day.

Friends, Jesus is talking in this context three times about

eating his flesh and drinking his blood.

There's no doubt about what he means.

And you have to look at simple grammar, simple English, simple figures of speech.

And when Jesus says he's a door, what does that mean?

When Jesus says eat my flesh here, what does that mean?

This is a figure of belief.

You have to believe.

That's what he's talking about.

So when Rome says you've really got to eat Jesus based on a misinterpretation of John 6, then

they have to come up with this whole hocus pocus.

You might want to type in hocus pocus in wiki or in your Google search and you can find some very interesting

things.

Who can receive communion according to catholic .com?

Catholic .com, by the way, this site has been blessed and confirmed by the Roman

Catholic Church.

Nihil Obstant, I've concluded that the materials present in this work are free of doctrinal or moral errors.

Bernadine Carr.

STL Sensor Librarium, August 10th, 2000.

Catholic .com, library who can receive communion.

They say the Holy Eucharist is the most important of the seven sacraments because in this and in no other sacrament, we

receive the very body and blood, soul and divinity of Jesus Christ.

That's fascinating, we receive the soul of Jesus.

We receive the deity of Jesus.

I'm just looking for a verse that would confirm that, but I just don't seem to find one.

Communion is an intimate encounter with Christ in which we sacramentally receive Christ into our bodies,

that we may be more completely assimilated into his.

So one of the purposes of communion is to be more completely assimilated into the body of

Christ.

Well, the Bible specifically and clearly teaches that upon faith in Christ

Jesus, God makes you born again.

He causes you to be born again in 1st Timothy, excuse me, 1st Peter chapter one, and you respond with

faith and repentance and trust and following.

When you respond, and this is, you know, in time

probably simultaneous, logically regeneration precedes faith, but you are placed in

Christ Jesus.

And once you're placed in Christ Jesus, you're not ever going to be out of Christ Jesus.

You're in Christ, in Christ.

It's called the mystical union.

Something talked about more often than justification.

I remember Dwight Pentecost talking about how this is one of the most important doctrines, overlooked doctrines, the mystical

union that we have as we are in Christ Jesus.

So you can't be half in or half out.

Even language would say, you know, you're either in or you're out.

You're not in the middle.

You're not half in and half out.

The Pope named John Paul the first, John Paul the second, excuse me, he

said, the Eucharist builds the church.

Redemptor hominis 20.

Oh, yikes.

Catholic .com says, the Eucharist also strengthens the individual because in it, Jesus himself, the word made flesh, forgives

our venial sins and gives us the strength to resist mortal sin.

It's also the very channel of eternal life, Jesus himself.

How'd you get that?

It's the channel of eternal life, Jesus himself.

We, of course, as Protestants protest that.

We protest that forgiveness of sins occurs through the sacraments.

Not any of the sacraments does that happen.

We believe as Protestants, according to the Bible, that we have a Jesus who died

once.

We believed in the finished work of the cross.

We believe that he made propitiation.

We believe that he made reconciliation.

We believe that he made redemption.

And these things were done and they are not through the sacraments.

They're not through some kind of body

and blood of Jesus.

Is it important to remember the Lord in the Lord's Supper?

Well, of course, we are to remember.

But we are not believing in a propitiatory sacrifice on the

altar through the Roman Catholic system.

Now, a quick reading of Hebrews chapter 10 should help those of you who are listening.

My name is Mike Abendroth, No Compromise Radio Ministry.

Part two today on transubstantiation.

I'm on catholic .com and we're just looking at some of the

fascinating things that once you get John six wrong, you pretty much get everything else

wrong.

This is under the section in catholic .com under Catholics and communion.

To receive communion worthily, you must be in a state of grace, have made a good

confession since your last mortal sin, believe in transubstantiation, observe the

Eucharistic fast, and finally not be under an ecclesiastical censure such as

excommunication.

So if you're a Roman Catholic, first you've got to be in a state of

grace because if you don't have that sanctifying grace in your soul, you are profaning the

Eucharist.

And they get that out of a misquoting of first Corinthians chapter 11.

Can you imagine?

Here's what this website says.

Immortal sin is any sin whose matter is grave and which has been committed willfully and with

knowledge of its seriousness.

Grave matters include, but is not limited to, murder, receiving or participating in an abortion,

homosexual acts, having sexual intercourse outside of marriage or in an invalid marriage, and

deliberately engaging in impure thoughts.

Well, friends, all sins are mortal.

One sin is enough to damn you forever.

One sin is enough to affect the fall of the human race.

One sin will rightly deserve the

holy justice of the Almighty God.

And it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of a living God for even one sin.

And they're all are mortal.

This whole venial mortal thing is one more illusion.

It's one more Crescen -like, David Copperfield -like thing.

Mortal sins, grave sins, venial sins.

How mortal?

Mortal.

How grave?

Grave.

When you receive communion, according to the 1983 Code of Canon Law,

you have to, A, well, let me just read the quote.

A person who is conscious of a grave sin is not to receive the body of the Lord without prior

sacramental confession unless a grave reason is present and there is no opportunity of confessing.

In this case, the person is to be mindful of the obligation to make an act of perfect contrition, including the

intention of confessing as soon as possible, CIC 916.

Isn't this kind of complicated?

See what legalism does, and I don't mean legalism like you can't go trick -or -treating.

I mean legalism in the sense that when you add to the gospel Galatians 1 and 2 kind of legalism,

legalism just keeps adding and adding and adding and adding, and the books keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger and

bigger because legalism has to have more rules for all the different things.

Listen to what catholic .com says according to their website that has been confirmed

as without doctrinal or moral error.

You must believe in the doctrine of transubstantiation.

Transubstantiation means more than the real presence.

According to transubstantiation, the bread and wine are actually transformed in the actual body, blood, soul,

and divinity of Christ with only the appearances of bread and wine remaining.

This is my blood, Mark 14, Luke 22.

If Christ were merely present alongside of the bread and wine, he would have said, this contains my body.

This contains my blood, which he did not say.

Well, the website goes on.

You must observe the Eucharistic fast.

Now, I did not know about this because although my grandmother was Catholic, she didn't really go that often,

and I can't vouch for all the stuff that, you know, I just didn't really go with her.

Although I lived across the street from St. James Parish, and there were lots of nuns across the street and a few fathers,

and they would play golf in the back area, and we'd go over there, and they'd lose their golf balls, and I guess

if I took a golf ball from the parking lot of a Catholic church, would that be a mortal

sin or a venial sin when I was eight years old?

I have no idea.

We were nice to them, and they were nice to us.

Canon law, CIC 9191.

One who is to receive the Most Holy Eucharist is to abstain from any food or drink with the exception only of water

and medicine, or as we say in our land, medicine, for at least the period of one hour before Holy

Communion.

Elderly people, those who are ill, and their caretakers are excused from the Eucharistic fast,

CIC 91913.

Priests and deacons may not dispense when obligated by the Eucharistic fast unless the bishop has expressly granted such

power to them, CIC 89.

That'll only cost you $49 .99.

Friends, the last sarcastic comment aside.

Once you start having rules, let's back up.

Once you get the gospel wrong, and you have an accursed gospel, Galatians chapter one, which is not really

a gospel, it's a different kind, it's a heteros gospel, it's not the same

kind, it's a different kind, then you're gonna have all these things.

Where in the Bible does it say you have to fast except for water and medicine to receive communion?

No, this is all works righteousness.

This is all taking away from the cross of Christ.

And once you get the cross of Christ wrong, you get everything wrong.

Jesus paid it all, all to him I owe.

Sin has left a crimson stain, he washed it white as snow.

Jesus is the lamb who takes away the sin of the world.

Jesus is the one who has redeemed us, forgiven us, justified us, and the list goes on and on.

And once you go away from that, and start adding some kind of religion that is based upon the duty of

man, the merits of man, the works of man, through the fear of man, all this other stuff

takes place.

Canon law, CIC 915, those who are excommunicated or interdicted after the imposition or declaration of the

penalty, and others who obstinately persist in grave manifest sin

are not to be admitted to holy communion.

And the list goes on and on.

Show me a legalistic system and I'll show you rule after rule after rule after rule after rule.

Canon law explains the parameters.

If the danger of death is present or other grave necessity in the judgment of the diocean bishop

or the conference of bishops, Catholic ministers may licitly administer these sacraments to other Christians

who do not have full communion with the Catholic Church.

CIC 844, four.

How does that work?

I thought you have to have a fast.

I thought you have to believe in substantiation, transubstantiation.

Well, I don't want the Eucharist to coast on my deathbed.

Here's what I want.

I want people around my deathbed singing, Jesus paid it all, immortal, invisible.

I want people to say, there is a Redeemer.

And I wanna be focused on Jesus Christ because you can get to heaven without the Eucharist.

The thief on the cross was not given the Eucharist nor was he baptized, but he looked to Christ.

He took Christ's word for it and he believed that he was the Messiah, the one who was laying down his life for the

sins of all those who had ever believed and that he was gonna be raised from the dead because he was going to be with him in

paradise.

Friends, if you are a Roman Catholic, why don't you believe in the Bible's Jesus?

The Jesus who does not need mankind at all, does not need baptism or any of the

other sacraments to be helping his great son's death.

This is my beloved son in whom I'm well -pleased.

Just be well -pleased in the gospel.

Read Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John and say, where is canon law here?

And then repent and believe in the real gospel to set you free and you can know you're saved.

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