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Opening Reflections on News, Ministry, and Staying Faithful

Welcome to the Conversations That Matter podcast. I'm your host, John Harris, and it is the News Roundup today. We have a number of stories to get to, and I don't think we're gonna get to all of them.

There's just far too many. It may take two or three days to just talk about all the things that I'd like to talk about, and oh my goodness, there's so much going on. Student loan forgiveness. Oh my goodness, right?

Apparently, that's what Christians believe. That's our doctrine. That's what we think Jesus did was forgive our debts, so we should forgive student loans. I kid you not, that logic is floating around out there on the internet.

That's one of the big national stories that's going on right now, but there's just so many other things. From local church matters and local political fights, in fact I have a message sitting in my inbox right now from someone in a local community where the church, it's not Planned Parenthood, the church apparently is preventing some pro-life things from happening in their particular community, and I'm just, and supposedly an evangelical church.

There's all kinds of stories from the large to the small that we, I think, should talk about, and I always put it through the grid of what would be helpful for you to hear. This show has been always more of a supplement.

It's not a multivitamin. I expect that you're getting, you're nurturing in the Word of God, other places generally. Not that you can't get that here necessarily, but I'm not preaching at you. I'm not giving you exegetical commentary on scripture most of the time.

This is a show that I'm giving you a lot of news. I'm giving you a lot of, hopefully, useful information about ministries and individuals, and we can be kind of, some call it discerning, some call it critical.

I just call it wise. We can be wise about the voices and influences that are out there, and that's really the goal of this show. It has been for quite some time, is to try to bring to you information that will help you in navigating the evangelical landscape out there, and there's so many pitfalls.

There's so many landmines, and I just praise God that He is the one that directs history. It's not me, and sometimes I worry about all the different voices out there that are lying, that are saying things that just are not helpful, that are misdirecting people, that are putting people into compromising situations.

I mean, it covers the evangelical, quote-unquote, landscape, whatever evangelical means now, and I just have to remember that God's ultimately in control. We've gone through stages of history that are much worse than this one in some ways.

I was reading this morning in 1 Samuel, and David's fleeing for his life, and just, can you imagine living like David lived, and thinking the good guys that are controlling Israel, the Israeli elites, right?

They're all bad. They're following the direction of Saul, who's arrogant, he's coming after me, he's a murderer, or at least that's what he's attempting to do, and so, you know, we're living in Philistia for some time, but, you know, we're not really with them either.

They don't accept us, and it's just, man, I just put myself in his predicament and think, man, I'm blessed, and yet David was a man after God's own heart who was blessed in his own right, and was privileged to be part of the line of the Messiah.

So, you open your Bible, you open just even history itself, and you look at what the church has gone through in the past, and we do live in some unique times. I'm not gonna lie about that. I'm not gonna say it's always been this way with the global communication capabilities and the technological advances that have made totalitarianism more possible, but things have been bad before in other ways, and in some ways far worse.

God flooded this world. I mean, it's been worse before, so I just wanted to remind everyone, I'm reminding myself, and I'm reminding everyone else along with that, and so don't worry too much about what's going on there in the evangelical world, or in the greater world, the political world.

I would say think as much as you can about what you can do, how you can take the gifts that God's given you, steward them well, take the talents He's given you, invest them well, and that's the way that I think you ensure that your little slice of the world, your little town, or your church, or your family even, I mean, it can go down to just a few people, your friends, that's how you can ensure that there's some stability there, that there's some wisdom there, that it's going to be an island of protection from the rest of the nonsense that's going on out there.

There's so much of it, and we see it more and more escalating. You know, the conservatives on talk radio sometimes will say, they get hopeful and gleeful almost about how the left is overplaying their hand.

It's getting so crazy. People are going to wake up, they're going to realize how bad it is out there, and I've been waiting for that. It doesn't seem to be happening, and I don't think actually it will, to be honest, because we know, as Christians we know, that things can get so much worse as far as the depravity of man, the nonsense that man's able to justify in his mind for the purpose of doing sin.

You don't really find an end point, and sure, some people are waking up to some extent. I saw this video not long ago of a LGBT activist from the 90s who was saying, look, I wouldn't have been involved if I knew we would be doing transgender library hour with children.

You look at that, and you think, well, it's a little late, but thanks, and then you think to yourself, but I wondered this in my head. For every person like that, how many people, though, are going the opposite direction, who are saying, you know, transgender library hour is actually tolerant?

Are those numbers growing? Are those numbers diminishing? I think it's still a minority of people, but like all the leftist innovations, it always starts with a little minority, and they keep pushing, keep pushing, keep pushing, keep pushing, and they take advantage of the tolerance that is out there from people on the right, and, you know, they tend to be more totalitarians.

They're gatekeepers. They want to gatekeep everything. Once they infiltrate an organization, they lock the door behind them. They don't let anyone else in who doesn't share their ideology, whereas people on the right tend to be very accepting of people, whether their ideas are in line with theirs or not, and so that's just the nature of the beast.

In fact, I was watching or listening. What was I doing? I was listening to a podcast. I was listening to one of the few podcasts I listened to, Brian McClanahan's podcast, The Brian McClanahan Show, and I realized that's more of a history podcast, American history, and some people will call me a nerd.

That's fine, but he was talking about something that was very relevant, and he does this often. He'll take history, and he'll talk about a modern political situation, and he'll apply history to it. I mean, he was talking about Martin Van Buren in relationship to the modern Democratic Party and just making parallels.

It was interesting, but what he was saying the other day that caught my attention was how some of the candidates, the Republican candidates in Georgia, in Pennsylvania, you have Dr. Oz running. I forget who's running in Georgia.

I think it's a football star, and I think he had another example, but there's a lot of celebrities that are running that aren't great candidates at all, but they have some name recognition, and the Republican Party tends to now gravitate towards that, I guess, the popularity contest candidates, and he didn't say this, but I thought of this.

How much of that is being successful in one area in which you can still or could still be successful while being somewhat conservative politically, and you could, I think, also say sharing Christian moral virtues, values?

How much of this is being able to build a platform in an unrelated field? It's not political necessarily. It's politicized, but you can get around. You can survive without having to tell everyone that you're a pro-abortion, LGBT-affirming, whatever.

You don't have to believe those things. You're just a good football player, or you're just good doctor on television, and then making the switch, so trying to jump from the platform you've built in those arenas to a different arena, to the political arena, and I'm wondering whether that's actually what we're going to see more and more of because it's very difficult to build for yourself a name and without it getting tarnished in 2 .5 seconds.

It's hard for you to build a name in the media, in Hollywood, entertainment, in education, or in politics. In politics, you can kind of do it, but it's difficult, so these more quote-unquote neutral, and everything's becoming political, but the few things that are still quote-unquote neutral where you can have conservative ideas, you can believe those things and still be successful and get name recognition, and then jump into a more politicized role.

I'm wondering if that's going to happen more and more because you just don't have the name recognition. It's hard to get off the ground. The gatekeepers have closed the gates, and so unless you at a very early stage dot all the i's, cross all the t's, kiss the ring, and say I am a leftist, you don't get into those organizations.

Look at what's happened with Chris Pratt and how he barely says anything political. He barely says anything even Christian, I would say. It's very generic stuff here and there, and it's rare, and yet he is hated.

I mean, there's attempts to get him canceled from his roles in Guardians of the Galaxy, and then this is a guy that you'd think of, man, he's not even that hardcore at all, and yet the intolerance is just on level 10.

I don't know. That's something I've been thinking about is prediction, I guess. Are we going to be seeing more and more of that? You can be, I think, it's better to be influential on a local level. If we had 50 Ron DeSantis, and I'm not saying he's the epitome of every, whatever, the perfect governor or anything, but he certainly is showing more courage than most of the Republican governors out there.

If even just all the red states had someone like him at the helm, it wouldn't, I don't think it wouldn't matter as much. It still would matter, but it wouldn't matter as much who was in the White House.

That's my point is if you had towns across this country and counties across this country and down to the very household that had strong leadership, had people who were unwilling to bend to the nonsense, then people can, the corral of celebrities that's out there for the American left, they can platform as much as they want.

It's not going to get anywhere if people don't accept it. It'll all be astroturf. It won't be organic. That's what I believe. That's what I have strived to encourage you to take action on. It could be, we have limited time.

It could just be getting involved in your church. It could be just getting involved in becoming a town councilman. It could be on a school board. It could be even smaller than that. It could be, well, I don't have much time, but I can coach kids and I can get involved in their lives and I can imply or impart to them biblical values.

There's so many things you can do. Starts with discipleship at the bottom organic level, but I think that all hands need to be on deck at this point in our country's history. We are, we're in peril. We are in peril and it's easy to look at that like Peter looking at the waves, but just remember that God is still in control.

We have gone through, in some ways, worst times in history and we could have a revival right around the corner. That is possible. Do I anticipate it? Not really, but I'm open to it. If it does happen, it'll be kindled initially.

At least this is how historically revivals have happened in the hearts and the minds of people like you and me. It's going to be the Holy Spirit doing our work in our churches and we're going to see it.

Anyway, that's my spiel to open up with. I have so many things to talk about and I just spent over 12 minutes talking about that, but hopefully that was encouraging to some of you out there. Maybe you're thinking through practically what can I do and I think that would be the goal.

Man, there's a number of other things I want to say, other things to get to, but what we'll do, I think we'll start out here. I just want to make a few announcements and then I'm just going to go through a few new stories.

We're going to end on this. I want to share with you a book that I just read. It's called John Jasper, if you can see it, man, the light's so bright, The Unmatched Black Philosopher and Preacher. John Jasper, The Unmatched Black Philosopher and Preacher.

I've read a number of books that I want to talk about, but this one I finished yesterday and so it's a little fresh in my mind. I thought it was pretty interesting and someone that I respect greatly in some ways, a role model.

I think a candidate for being a role model and you probably never heard of him. We will talk a little bit about John Jasper. Let's start though the podcast here, if we may. I want to let you know about Bradford Christian College, if you haven't heard about Bradford Christian College before.

I've talked about it, but you can go to bradfordchristiancollege .com and it's a biblical principle approach to college. They call their way of approaching education a biblical principle approach. They subscribe to the Westminster standards.

They're orthodox. They're against social justice and they provide mentorship. They provide a person who's going to meet with the student, whoever that is, and I have mentioned before, I think this is good for homeschoolers to consider, but hey, maybe you're someone who's, you're older and you're considering continuing education and this might be a good option for you.

Check them out. I mean, you can email them. Their email address is right on the website and bradfordchristiancollege .com. Again, they have a few degrees. They have two right now, bachelor's of arts in theological studies, bachelor's of arts in Christian education.

And it's not like a, I've done this with actually a number of institutions where you have an online school, right? And you do some tests, you do some multiple choice quizzes, you write a few papers. You don't even know who your proctor is.

And I've been that proctor. I've actually taught some of these, the college courses and the human scale is just so much. I can't get to know every student. Sometimes I get to know some more than others, but it's just, it's all through texts.

You're not usually talking to them. I have had conversations, but it's rare. Bradford Christian College is intentional though. And I love this. They are going to meet with you regularly every week. You're going to be talking to your mentor and they're going to be looking at your progress, seeing how they could help tailoring things to you.

That's what you need in education. To be honest with you, that is a much better approach than this mass factory system that we have going, which it hardly, it's been around for two seconds. I mean, the education approach that we're using today is so new.

And I think it's much better to go back to more of a classical approach, more mentorship, more application. And Bradford Christian College intends to do that. They intend to give you the kind of education the founding fathers would have had.

That's at least their goal. And I would just suggest, check them out. If you're looking into this kind of thing, they are accredited. So you can get your bachelor's of arts and Christian education, and then go on to a master's.

And I think that's what a lot of homeschoolers do. That's kind of what I did. I started when I was 16 at community college. And then I, I ended up going in getting a master's earlier. I started my master's work at least earlier than most students would start at my age.

And I already had the bachelor's under my belt and it was much cheaper. I was able to live at home, which is, I think the way that we did it in my house, at least made a lot of sense. And if we had something like this, we might've utilized this.

And so check it out. Maybe even earlier than 16. I don't know. It depends what, I don't know what the laws are in your state or your region, but this is an online school. So you should be able to, when, when a student is ready, start taking these courses.

But ask them what they suggest at BradfordChristianCollege .com. Okay. One last final announcement. You've heard me talk about it and now I think I've lost it. Let's see. Oh, here it is. The Adirondack Men's Retreat with Dr. Russell Fuller, October 28th through 30th.

Please sign up. Please come if you're a man. I'm just getting great feedback already. People are excited about this. And I was expecting this to be something for my church, for some local men and maybe a few podcast folks, but a lot of podcast folks are coming out now.

And please email me. And I only give you my email just for coordinating a ride. So that's, that's what this is for. But you can email me at Jonathan Harris, my full name, Jonathan Harris, 1989 at gmail .com.

Just email me there. If you're coming and you don't have a ride, you know, if you're coming from the Midwest, from the South, you're flying into Albany, you're flying into New York, whatever it is, and we'll coordinate, we'll find rides for you as much as we possibly can.

I know people are coming from all those areas. So that would be great. If you can come, we, it's $176. That's a good price. Now, the way that we have it right now is people are, we're trying to get like three people per room, if possible.

There may be some, some options. I think as we get closer, there actually will be options. I know one person already asked me, Hey, could I have my own room? And I said, I think that should be fine. Once we get to that point in October, I'll know better kind of what room is available and what room isn't.

But yes, we can work with that stuff. But to bring the cost down as much as possible, it's kind of, you're bunking with other guys. So bring your protection if they're snoring. But this is, I mean, this is where you get to know people.

This is the kind of men's retreats I actually like. And it can be for an introvert, it can be kind of challenging at first. You wonder, Oh man, I'm gonna have to meet all these people. I'll have to be in close proximity to them.

Yeah. And that's how you want it actually. That's how you want a men's retreat because you're going to get to know people. And these might be even lifelong lasting friendships. These are people that share a lot of the same concerns with you.

A lot of the same values. They're listening to this podcast. Many of them, they're, they want to hear what Russell Fuller has to say. I mean, that alone, he's a man of courage. He's a rare gem in today's evangelical landscape.

And to have an opportunity to be with him on such an intimate level, which is what this is, that, that is worth its weight in gold. I mean, I, I would take this way over and nothing against these conferences, but I would, I would go and I've been to the master's seminary, what is it called?

Shepherd's conference, many years. I would go to this way over going to the shepherd's conference, just because it's guy stuff. We get to be outside by the fire, hiking, whatever outdoor activities and learn about Jeremiah in a smaller setting.

It's not just getting in line to hopefully get the autograph of, you know, the person I've seen these lines at com and a conference. Now you'll be able to talk to Russell Fuller. You'll be able to connect with him.

You'll get to eat a meal with him possibly. I mean, this is, he's going to be accessible and it's not going to be like, there's a lot of people there. So I would just encourage you if, if you want to tack on another day or two in the Adirondacks, they're a beautiful area, especially that time of year, it's probably just going to be past peak.

Although we haven't had a lot of rain and it's been kind of warm and I'm wondering if it might be peak. We'll see what the fall looks like, but we may hit it right. We'll see. But October 28th through 30th for men and look forward to seeing you there.

It's old school. You send in your check, but go to the link in the info section to sign up. And then you just send in your check to the mailing address there. Grace Bible church for the $176. If money's an issue, email me.

I want everyone to be able to come. Okay. That's my heart and all this. All right. Let's do new stories. How's that sound? Let's do new stories. And where are we going to start? Um, let's see, man, I, I got Liberty university.

I got Southeastern. I got Southern seminary and I, I got so many things here. I got, um, got so many things. Let's start. Oh man. Let's start here. Actually. How about the gospel coalition? Can we start with the gospel coalition?

Let's start with the gospel coalition. So I was on a podcast with 80 Robles yesterday, uh, or two days ago, uh, August 25th. So two days ago, and the podcast was about the gospel coalition and some of the worst articles.

And I said, 80 in the middle of the podcast, I said, let me just go to the gospel coalition website right now, right now. And so I did. And immediately like the main, main, uh, uh, article that was being put out there was by a guy named Chris Watkins.

It said CRT critical race theory versus classical liberalism versus Christianity. And one of the things I told 80 D I think I said it before I even saw this, I said, look, one of the things the gospel coalition does is they present two options to you and they try to, and sometimes they're diametrically opposed sometimes, but they're the two basic options.

And then they'll try to present Christianity as this third way, this transcending option that it rejects equally rejects. That's important. Equally rejects these other two options. And it's, it's, it's the dialectic, right?

It's, uh, takes the best of both worlds or rejects both equally. And it's serves as what Christians it's, it's like the, the, the, the option that no one saw that every Christian though is required to, or should believe in the option.

No one saw that every Christian should believe it. That's gospel coalition in a nutshell. So anyway, I looked over this article while I was on this podcast with 80 and I was like, look, look at this. And I went to, uh, this particular, um, let's see, I jumped, I jumped to this particular section right here and I just want to read this to you.

Um, all right. So here it keeps comparing what a critical race theory says to what liberalism says and the liberalism, not in the sense you're probably thinking of it, liberalism in the classical liberalism sense.

Uh, so it's the liberal order, the, this order of, uh, of democracy and tolerance and reason. And anyway, uh, so it, it, it compares CRT with liberalism. And then here's what the Bible says. I want to just read for you.

One of these, all right. CRT racism will remain endemic. Society cannot be reformed without first tearing it down. There's no prospect of racial justice short of this radical unmaking of society. I'd say that's accurate.

Liberalism, radical change to address questions of justice is rejected in favor of incremental and consensual progress. I would say, well, it's liberalism's a little harder because it's so broad. Um, but okay, let's grant it.

That's what liberalism says. It's more in favor of incrementalism because of law, law and order. And the, and it takes governments sometimes time to work. And by the way, that's by design, our constitution itself with the checks and balances, that's, it's by design that things, when things get done and if there's overwhelming favor, then you can get things done fairly quickly if you want, but most things are going to have pushback.

And the goal is to protect minority rights as much as possible against the majority mob rule. The goal is to try to make sure that, um, you know, and that, and that's what things like, you know, you need two thirds of a majority for this or three quarters of a majority for this, or, you know, you can't just 51 and you rule the day on certain issues.

So it's designed to have breaks that that's the whole, and I think that's a good, wise thing. But, uh, anyway, the, here's what the Bible says in contrast to both these things, the Bible avoids critical race theories, tragedy, a perpetual conflict, as well as liberalism's incrementalism.

Really? That's in the Bible. The Bible, it does it. Bible's against incrementalism. Uh, well on some things, I suppose, you know, thou shalt not murder, nothing incremental about that. Stop murdering.

Right. Uh, but, uh, it doesn't, I don't know if that's a blank check for every form of, you know, like, so, okay. Welfare state, right? The Bible I would say is against the welfare state is the Bible though, in favor of end it right now.

And all the people that are relying on welfare, well, they can starve. I would be shocked if anyone actually believed that because we don't have that specifically in the Bible. So I guess by this particular author's, uh, assessment, liberalism would be in favor of a gradual change, and I would be in favor of that too.

I don't think you end it right away. Uh, there's some things you get like abortion, end it now, right? Um, you're killing people, something like that. You got to do a cost benefit and you got to think through, okay, this is going to do a lot of damage.

Let, how do we kind of as quickly as possible, but without, with minimizing damage that could be caused, uh, ease, ease off this thing, you know, ease off the, uh, the speed on the, uh, speeding or the gas pedal and ease onto the brakes.

Something, some issues I think are like that. Um, and so anyway, uh, sometimes there's a time period you want to give, uh, for people to prepare to, uh, to ease off of something and, or to do something new, you know, um, I was just even reading this morning in first Samuel, you know, how David, where was he?

He was, maybe it was yesterday. Um, forget the name. I can't keep all the names of these like a Malachite and Philistine Kings and stuff straight. But anyways, David is staying, uh, with a Philistine King essentially basically says, David, you need to go and you don't give you till tomorrow morning to go.

There's a time period that was given. It was short, but there's a time period. And a lot of things are like that, where you give people time to prepare. So anyway, that's gradualism. That's incrementalism.

I think a lot of issues are going to be incremental and we need wisdom to figure out which ones are incremental, which ones are immediate. Uh, so let's talk about what the Bible says here. According to gospel coalition, the Bible avoids CRT's tragedy of perpetual conflict as well as liberals incrementalism.

Instead, it has an eschatological vision of radical transformative reconciliation, which members of every tongue, tribe, and nation will sing praise to God with one voice. Now I got to say, I don't think CRT actually wants perpetual conflict.

And I'm thinking Marxism here, broadly speaking, CRT being an iteration of this Marxism does think there's going to be a point in which you reach the state of communism. And so it's not, it's, that's an inaccurate portrayal in my mind.

Uh, and then you have liberalism's incrementalism, and it's just, this is not just a weak argument on the point of the author here that the Bible is somehow always against incrementalism or something.

It just, he doesn't specify what he's really, what issue, what issue are we talking about here? Uh, on abortion, sure. But, uh, it invokes, the article invokes Revelation 7. Every tribe, tribe, tongue, nation is going to be gathered around the throne and all injustice will be held to account.

Okay. Agreed. In the consummation of all things that will happen. This grand vision motivates practical efforts in the here and now. So where have you heard this? That you need to make your church look more diverse.

You need to implement a program of racial reconciliation. Well, it's generally from people pushing the CRT narrative or some iteration of it. Well, now the gospel coalition in this article comes out and says, look, you got to work towards this grand vision though.

Like now, this grand vision of eliminating all injustice and every, this diversified church around God's throne, you got to work towards that now. Okay. Well, what does that look like? I would, I mean, I would say this is something Christ accomplishes as we just obey his commands.

This isn't some, I'm not self-consciously like, well, man, I'm going to, do I witness to the white guy or the Asian guy? Oh man, I got to think through this. I guess how many, let's run the numbers. How many white people versus Asians in heaven?

Okay. I guess maybe I'll, maybe I'll witness to the Asian guy, you know, like what, what is that? Right. That's what, that's what we've been getting is like, if, unless your church is diverse, unless you're specifically targeting, crafting the lure you have for certain demographics, then you are somehow against the command of revelation seven, except revelation seven isn't a command.

It's a description. It's a description of the final state. And this is going to happen inevitably, because this is what God does. And he just wants you to be faithful in your community. I was at a church in Virginia when during the whole lockdowns and all, I was looking for a church that was open.

And I went to this church and I thought this might be a good option until the pastor starts talking about how, and it's in the country, it's in the country, pastor starts saying, chiding his congregation for not having enough black friends and spending way too much time with people that share their hobbies and not going and sharing time with people who don't share their hobbies and how it's more important for them to be with people that aren't like them who don't share their hobbies for the purpose of evangelism.

And I thought right away, wait a minute, actually God's equipped you. If you like fishing, then you're going to probably want to take someone fishing and that would make more sense. Someone who's into fishing, you can reach them better because guess what?

You have a commonality. Trust, there's a certain level of trust that's already been built there. Someone who lives in your region, someone who looks like you, someone, all these things, don't tell me they don't.

They do in sometimes small ways, but they do, the more proximity, the more similarity, they do factor into the mission field that's going to be around you because you build a sense of trust with people that are like you in various ways.

Now, I mean, obviously, okay, so there's, let's say there's a black guy across the street and we both share a love for fishing. And then there's a white guy who doesn't speak my language from Europe, who we share more genetics with, but I can't even understand them.

Obviously, I share more in common with the black guy, right? And that's going to be, I'm in more proximity to him, right? So I'm not, because people freak out sometimes when I go down this path and they think that I'm, you know, oh no, you're making grace so determinative.

No, I'm not. I'm just saying it's proximity and that can be complicated. But what the pastor was getting at was you're missing the mark, which means you're kind of in sin, I guess, if you are not stepping outside of your quote unquote comfort zone and putting yourself in inconvenient places in order to evangelize.

It's fine for people who want to do that. I have no problem with it. But generally though, we're going to be witnessing to people that are like us because that's the mission field that God's put in front of us.

It's like the Good Samaritan. You're walking along the road. This is the person God's put in front of you to help, right? It's the person that has a need. You're able to fulfill it and they're right there and you can do it.

And so this, I know this is a very short section, which means I have like 50 articles I'm probably not going to get to, but this is very short. But I think it just goes to show you that how confused the gospel coalition is, how they're still trying to do this third way thing, and they can't even seem to represent the Bible accurately here.

They're creating a command out of something that is just a description. And look at the verse that they use here. Therefore, my beloved brothers, be steadfast and movable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that in the Lord, your labor is not in vain.

1 Corinthians 15 58. Well, the sentence that accompanies this is this. This grand vision motivates practical efforts in the here and now. So to make your church more diverse or bring about the state of affairs of Revelation 7, 9 through 10, you need to do work now.

And this is the verse they use to support it. How does that even relate, right? And that's supposed to be the contrast between liberalism and CRT. And it's such a simplified, reductionistic reading of liberalism, especially.

I just, I can't, I can't take this seriously. I can't take that this is a helpful thing. And we're not going to go through the rest of this, but it's just, it's not helpful. It's not practical. It's what, at the end of the day, though, what is it trying to get you to do?

It's communicating to you. Critical race theory is a lie. Classical liberalism is a lie. Christianity is true. And guess what Christianity is? Boom, it's our version. And guess what our version is? Well, we got to work through towards this Revelation 7, 9 through 10.

Well, that's not, that's not what Christianity teaches. That's a mischaracterization. Let's read the last paragraph here. It says, Okay, that's just a straw man. Liberalism's associations in which no one is to blame for anything.

No one can ever be to blame for racism or any problem that might exist out there. That's just a mischaracterization. This is so classic TGC that we're, and that's what TGC wants to be. We're subversive.

You know, we're not out there fighting culture wars blatantly. We're subversive. We fly under the radar and they don't even realize we're infiltrating them. And they're gonna all be Christians because they're going to see, wait a minute, I'm a critical race theorist, but guess what makes more sense?

I can still have the good aspects of my CRT. And guess what? It's in Christianity. Christianity parallels those aspects. And I'm going to be a classical liberal and like Christianity because look, Christianity parallels the aspects I like.

And we can be transformative. We can, you can transform this way. You can take the best of CRT, the best of CRT. What's the best of CRT? What's the, I can tell you what the best of liberal societies are.

And I can probably tell you some weaknesses for, for the liberalism where liberalism is, is going, it's a unstable element in my mind. That's where we, where we live right now. We live in an unstable element.

And I think George Washington, who is it? Was George Washington? I think now is, man, now I'm blanking. I should not be blanking on this. I want to say George Washington, but I don't think it was. I think it was John Adams who talked about the constitution being made for religious people.