The Problem with the Pope

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Greetings and welcome to the dividing line. We are still here in Phoenix. We don't head out until I don't head out till next week from Friday we can borrow and Already got three

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Webcasts that I'm doing other than the dividing line While a while on the road and I've got like six more emails to send to people and just got something just Just a few moments ago

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Tim Bush on sent me a contact of someone who wants to Discuss things and I guess someone who works a lot with Church of Christ, which hey

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All the patience to you. That's a Yeah, that's a that's yeah tough group to tough group do and you can when you can have

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Four nights in a row of debate on a single Bible verse and really only a single phrase in the

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Bible Um, yeah, that's that's a level of patience. That's that's beyond what

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I possess If you can't you can't get your point across in in You know one debate

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Anyway, so looking forward to that Looking forward to being in I didn't

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I should have brought this up and I think I sent I Think I sent you

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Something But but I think Yeah, yeah,

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I don't know, um You know, we have we have the thing on the front of the website for the

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Conference in Littleton and I'm mixing up the next two trips because I'm working on September right now for example

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We're not exactly sure where the conference the weekend before g3 is going to be

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It'll either be in Carlisle or Lancaster and I looked those up now gotta remember

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When I lived in Harrisburg, my dad worked in in Carlisle So I sort of have some idea what that is, but I looked up the two cities.

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They're 60 miles apart. I Underestimated oh

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Yeah, I totally underestimated how long it takes to get anywhere in Pennsylvania because it is so rural you're on two -lane roads at 45 miles per hour, so But there was a

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KOA that looked like you would be just right there is not a single slot open that KOA in all of September and I'm like What in the world's good ain't my they ain't coming for me.

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So I don't know what's what's going on there so I may have some challenges finding a location in Penn's at Pennsylvania for that one.

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But anyway, I am confusing stuff because I Know that for the first time

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I'm going to actually be speaking at a church in Amarillo on The way out.

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I Tend to end up going through Amarillo, you know,

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I've got to go through New Mexico Whether I go north or south doesn't matter that much and Then once you get into Texas very frequently.

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I have stopped to stay at the KOA in Amarillo and I'm really excited to have a contact there now as far as a church to Speak at this next time around But yeah,

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I am confusing some of the stops in July with September because there's only one month between So we're looking at I don't

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I can't bring it up on this but we're looking at nearly 10 ,000 miles of driving between July and September Yeah, lots of I'm looking at the truck over there and hoping it's not hearing me

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Yes, yeah, we're gonna be putting some serious serious miles out for a while and and there we go, so looking forward to all that and trying out some improvements over how we did things last time and Starlink and 5g and all that fun stuff and Rich has been working on all sorts of stuff that I don't know

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I've got to plug something into this and plug something into that and We'll just have to see how things things go as we as we get going

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But it's going to be exciting to be able to be doing all those things on the way on the road

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Excited about that. There is an excellent What would you call this

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Come on open there you go Political cartoon Commentary cartoon, whatever.

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It's a mom standing there with a little kid with big old honking ears it's not what I looked like when I was that age and The sign is the

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American Academy of Pedia quack the American Mania Association And the mom is saying to the doctor who's just sort of staring at her

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So they can't vote buy cigarettes or alcohol or see an R -rated movie

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But you think they should be able to permanently alter their bodies without parental consent and it is just the

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Did you see the video this morning someone posted a video this morning of Thieves and I'm not sure if we're even allowed to call them thieves.

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I'm not sure if Google will allow us to call them thieves Underappreciated oppressed citizens

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Running out of a high -end department store in San Francisco with their arms full of stuff and They don't need to run because no one's gonna arrest them or stop them it the

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California Washington, Oregon All of these leftist communist states.

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I've made it very clear a thievery is fine. Steal whatever you want from anybody As long as it's less than a thousand bucks, okay and The the caption basically was thieves stealing what they can from the stores in San Francisco before those stores closed down Because those stores are closing down They are the why shouldn't they or why should they stay open?

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If If the government has basically said you can't stop them. We're not going to prosecute them you just simply have to spend your money put your stuff out there and let people take it and If they choose not to pay for it, well, that's just what you have to do.

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Well, the only Rational response to that is to go. Bye. Bye See you later

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We're not gonna do this anymore because this is insane and So you're you're watching these major cities and these major states committing

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Cultural suicide right in front of us. And by the way, I didn't close the door all the way if you're interested There's committing cultural suicide right in front of us

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It's the death throes of a dying society because What's wrong with poor people stealing stuff?

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They're made in the image of God. That's why And God says don't steal

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They're not stealing to eat. They're stealing to sell to get drugs vast majority of them are you know that everybody knows that that's just common sense

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Well, it's equity no, it's not that's called communism and that's absurd and it is disrespectful to mankind and it's evil and It should cause you to be shamed

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But not these days not right now and There was an announcement of a

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Of a Lawsuit By someone who was quote -unquote transitioned.

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I've said from the start. There's no such thing There there is there is no such thing as transitioning.

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It's not possible. It is a fiction. It doesn't exist Even if somehow and you know, this is science fiction

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But even if somehow because they they did it in Star Trek You can do anything in Star Trek you want to Even if they found a way to change your genetics, you know, maybe through the transporter

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They did that in Picard season 3 right at the end remember if you remember that That Wouldn't change the fact that you were created you were born as a male or a female.

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We can't do that Probably never will be able to do that shouldn't ever do it even if we found out a way to do it and so it's a

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Transitioning is a is is fiction. It does it's it doesn't actually happen instead you have the mutilation of human bodies and a new lawsuit has been filed by someone who was mutilated and they are

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Suing the medical authorities that did it and I say sue them all.

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I say fill the courts up and Get the biggest payouts you can

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Should you have done it? Of course not but you couldn't have done it without these money -grubbing ideologically controlled

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Medical quote -unquote medical people who are using their skills to mutilate human bodies they should

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Lose every dime they have ever received from it. And I would say there are significantly more just Punishments that should be meted out in that in that context be perfect honest with you but anyway

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Yeah There is no answer to the the editorial cartoon that I read the quotation from because it doesn't

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We're we are dealing with absolute insanity More and more states

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Moving to the we will take your children from you. If you're if you're 11 year old contacts

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The authorities and says I want puberty blockers. I I'm a girl, but I I'm a boy trapped in a female body

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More and more states are saying We'll help you kid whether your parents want to do it or not.

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We'll do it for you Yeah Look there's only there's only two options that revolution

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Or get out of those states as fast as you can and When those people leave those states and come to our states, we need to tell them don't be idiots and Bring that stupidity here

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I've said more than once The state comes after my grandkids. I'll lay down my life and I'll take as many people with me as I can because that's that's

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When when do you when do you stand up against any kind of evil? I mean, this is the most this is the most insane evil the world's ever seen

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This is this is Auschwitz level evil and it's happening in the United States in the legislatures of the states

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Right in front of our eyes and we just go on going. Hey the US opens on is okay.

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Who cares? It's amazing, you know, we we close our ears to the experimentation they did on people

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Then the Nazis did because they were just so terrible and horrible. And what are we doing now?

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What are we doing now It is truly truly astonishing

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And that's why they can only respond by censoring these things. They can't None of these people could ever do a moderated debate equal time with cross -examination.

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Can you imagine? What cross -examination would be like? Because we sometimes watch these people testifying before Congress and once in a while a senator

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You know Josh Hawley Ted Cruz a couple

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Representatives, there's still a few people with a little bit of a backbone a little bit of a Christian worldview hiding in there someplace not many and they will come after them and They are left stuttering and stammering because it's just like it's just like when

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I debated Barry Lynn in 2001 We got into cross -examination and he looked like a deer in the headlights,

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I Guess there might be some people don't know what that means But it's true

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They they have no responses they are not challenged like that when they go on MSNBC and CNN and and You know public broadcasting and stuff like that.

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They're treated as Celebrities and they're tossed these little softball

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Size questions that they can knock out of the park. They're never they're never given. They're never required to answer serious questions and You saw what happened with Barry Lynn on that and that's exactly what would happen if these people

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Ever tried to do an actual debate where they had to answer actual questions in a timed format

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I would love to see it happen, but Believe me There are there are

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Right now I can name three different people Who are trying to put together debates for me as I'm traveling and stuff like that and They struggle mightily to find anyone especially to address

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LGBTQI 2s plus e To the third power, whatever it is.

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They're doing these days They normally don't even get a response and The reasons obvious they know, you know, why did

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Matthew Vines never debate me when he said he would Because by the time

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His book came out what had become very very obvious was they had the media

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They had the cultural narrative So why in the world would you give the other side the opportunity to make you look foolish

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We're not gonna do it I'm not gonna do it. So That's where we are at the moment.

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It is amazing. By the way, I Am seeing people on Twitter Like Yeah, I Just looked over.

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There's a there's a picture of the back of a Prius. Another Prius is not The most manly of vehicles

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I Run over Priuses in my truck. I don't even know they're there. Um, but I Don't but I could

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I'm sort of I'm sort of thinking the front end of my trucks about High enough to climb up the back of that without too much trouble

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But it's a Prius and it's got a big old Sign across the back.

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It says I'm saving fuel to buy more guns I noticed they took the they took the license plate out they so I can't tell what state it is because I I can't imagine it would be

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Washington or Oregon or California or Anything like that at all.

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But yeah, that's cute I'm saving fuel to buy more guns. That might not be a bad If you can get hold of them, let's not get into that right now.

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That's that's a that's a challenge these days, too all right, I Am seeing all sorts of people brother

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Foskey Has not seen Thief in the night

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Carla Carla Rolfe has not seen thief in the night And I'm just like you saw it before you were believer

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They showed it on the town square in Prescott. Yes, so so the the local

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You know You know what the door is right, I'm sorry, you know what the door is, right?

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Yeah. Okay, so the door would If you've ever seen

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Billy Jack, yes, all the karate scenes are done in the town square. Oh Yes, they rest it.

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Yes in Prescott. Okay now Which is different than Prescott, you know, there is no

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Prescott. Okay, it's Prescott Okay, and the people from back east go to Prescott not

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Prescott and they end up in Prescott anyway, anyway, so the The town square down there where they have the little commune people walking around down this town square trying to talk to people

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I have a Billy Jack. I haven't been there. Okay, so they they picked the perfect setting for it because That's what the door does they send parades of people down there with jack -chick tracks

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Passing them out. Yeah, okay, and so you can you can make a reservation for You know behind the big statue of Bucky O 'Neill to do different performances and things like that And so they'll reserve that space and they'll put up a big old

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TV screen and They'll show a thief in the night or they the other one was crossing the switchblade, right?

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And then they'd stand up there and preach and stuff like that now I don't know if they've done that since I you know left

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Prescott But when I was a teenager, that was real common to go down there and they would collect a crowd

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What did they what did Bucky O 'Neill do? Bucky O 'Neill. Yeah, you really want me to tell you about Bucky O 'Neill?

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No, okay, but What did he do? Why does he have a statue there? He has a statue

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He used to be the mayor of Prescott early on and when Teddy Roosevelt Got the volunteers of the

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Rough Riders went down to Cuba Okay in the Spanish American War Bucky joined.

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He was a captain in in Roosevelt's army Oh down there and he died in in the battle down there.

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Oh, and so he was a town hero Okay, so you're welcome. I figured if you went to school there that it was sort of required that you know that So that's why

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I asked So nobody else is really overly concerned about that, but I just had never heard of him so all right

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Hey, I'll have you know that Sam Elliott played his part in a movie.

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Did you see? The picture. Oh, I I wanted to retweet it so bad

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I think I saw it on Facebook though, and it was these two statues in Hungary and it said when

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The guy who played the bartender in Shears Woody Harrel when Woody Harrelson and the guy you just mentioned

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Sam Elliott Saved Western civilization because these two statues

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From I think Hungary They are Sam Elliott and Woody Harrelson. It's the biggest best evidence.

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I've ever seen for reincarnation It really is because these two these two look yep

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That's what they would look like if they were fighting back in the 1560s, which is I think what what they will be doing anyway

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On to yes on to important things. Sorry On to important things so You may have seen

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That Pope Francis now Let's back up the truck here a second if I if a letter came out a handwritten letter, which is strange these days anyways, but if a if a handwritten letter

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Came out from me To the people putting on the revoice conference

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Okay, the revoice conference is a Presbyterian pro -homosexual conference member, you know big topic of conversation

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PCA for years If a letter came out that I wrote to the people putting on the revoice conference saying

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I Appreciate what you're doing.

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I hope you have a great conference. God bless you Etc, etc

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What do you think people would would say Do you think people would say well, there's a real inconsistency there because He has taken the position for years and years and years

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That this is in opposition to God's will and God's law and the scriptures and You don't write letters of encouragement to people who are putting on conferences like this

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Well Pope Francis Sent greetings

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To this year's outreach conference for LGBTQ Catholics and Reading from the article here in a letter dated

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May 6th 2023 Pope Francis has sent his greetings to attendees of the outreach

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LGBTQ Catholic ministry conference to be held at Fordham University in New York City from June 16th to the 18th starting tomorrow

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That may be why this has only come out now Even though it was written last month the handwritten letter sent to James Martin Jesuit James Martin the father

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James Martin well known for his support of Homosexuality and being a homosexual

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Catholic and so on and so forth the editor of outreach thanks him for all the good you are doing and Promises his prayers and good wishes to all the participants of the conference

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I send my best regards the members of the meeting at Fordham University wrote the Holy Father Thank you for delivering it to them in my prayers and good wishes

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In my prayers and good wishes are you and all who are working at the outreach conference? This is the third letter that Pope Francis has sent in relation to the outreach conference in June of 2021 on the eve of an

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Online conference. He wrote a letter thanking Father Martin for his pastoral zeal

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For imitating the style of God and to commend him for caring for your faithful your parishioners in 2022 after receiving a copy of the program for the second conference

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He wrote to Father Martin asking him to continue working in the culture of encounter Which shortens the distances and in written enriches us with differences always that is

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That not a liberation theologian or is that a liberation theologian Wow Yeah, okay

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Last November Pope Francis met with Father Martin for the second time in a private audience at the

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Apostolic Palace Were the two discussed ministry to LGBTQ Catholics I'm grateful for the

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Holy Father's warm letter Which is a wonderful blessing for everyone joining us this weekend at the conference said Father Martin And it's a special grace for LGBTQ Catholics to know that the

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Pope is praying for them This year's outreach conference brings together some 250

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LGBTQ Catholics Those who minister with them and their family and friends to build community share best practices and worship together

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Participants include theologians writers pastoral associates clergy members of religious orders and lay women and men from around the world

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Keynote speakers this year are Tanya Tetlow the president of Fordham University Juan Carlos Cruz a member of the

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Vatican's Pontifical Commission for the protection of minors and Marianne Duddy Burke the executive director of dignity

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USA The closing mass on Sunday will be celebrated by Archbishop John C.

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Wester of Santa Fe, New Mexico now think about that So A Cardinal Timothy Dolan Archbishop, New York Welcomed the participants to his archdiocese and echoing the for that fully fully fully father the

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Holy Father wrote it is the sacred duty of the church and her ministers to reach out to those on the periphery and Draw them to a closer relationship with Jesus Christ in his church

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Your vital and important ministry is a valuable and necessary contribution to that effort and Of course, you've also got one from the very

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Reverend Joseph O 'Keefe SJ the provincial of the USA East Province of the side of Jews are the

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Jesuits Okay, the Jesuits are the ultra liberals today, which is ironic giving

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How they started? when when you read Ignatius Loyola Ignatius Loyola would have burned

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Every Jesuit alive with the possible exception of Mitch Packard. That's in fact.

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Did you see that? I? Think I retweeted a picture of Mitch Pacwa hunting and He has a clergy camo outfit.

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So it's all camo, but he's got the color. Oh Yeah, oh yeah because Because when we debated in the late 90s, he had he had his full

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Priest outfit on but he was wearing the pointiest cowboy boots you'd ever want to see

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And he said they were for kicking new agers in the butt. That's what he told me. I'm just telling you what what he said

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I love Mitch Mitch is I Told someone yesterday we were talking about Roman Catholicism.

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I told someone yesterday Mitch Pacwa. I Have the most respect for Mitch Pacwa of anyone.

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I've debated because he never engaged in cheap debating tricks Maybe he doesn't know cheap debating tricks.

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Maybe he's too scholarly to know that kind of stuff. I don't know But I've said more I've said over and over again if you want to hear the best interactions on Roman Catholicism with all all the noise and static that most of the other

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Catholic apologists produce The debates with Mitch Pacwa were the were the ones that I would

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I would point you to So yeah, he he is the most conservative Jesuit I've ever met and I and I know other people would say yeah, he's

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Pretty unique. He doesn't fit in the Jesuits at all But Ignatius Loyola without blinking an eye

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Would have burned every Jesuit alive today and You want to argue that?

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You want to you want to look back and what the counter -reformation was about what it stood for and Where the

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Jesuits are today? Yeah, good luck with that so that is related to What this means about the

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Pope I Have in my hand here

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The paperback copy I have a nice I'm not sure I have it in here. I think it's I Think it's with my in my

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Roman Catholic section In my main library, but I have a nice big well -marked hardback copy of The Catechism, but I just leave this one here when

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I need to grab something look something up Here is the Catechism Catholic Church Universal Catholic Catechism Nice to have something like this.

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It's pretty big pretty involved This one was printed published and printed in 1993

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Okay, so that was 30 years ago if we're talking about an

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Unchanging church. It shouldn't matter. This is published 30 years ago, right and yet There have been changes

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Let me mention the words of the

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Catechism became the Catechism the Council of Trent Now again Council Trent counter -reformation council

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You probably have a much higher level when when you have documents produced out of controversy

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They have a much higher level of specificity because they're having to address specific issues

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So the documents that come out before the Reformation in light of Interactions with Eastern Orthodoxy Are going to have more specificity and clarity on the issues that separate

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East and West at that time than existed before Then you get to Council of Trent and now you have the

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Reformation and So the The tridentine documents which give us primarily

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Thomas Aquinas is theology soteriology sacramentology

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They are given to us in the Canon's decrees of the

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Council of Trent which likewise I do not have in here at the moment and Those Then became the basis for the 1566 that's 20 years after the beginning of the

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Council of Trent 1546 so 1566 they published a catechism catechism the

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Council of Trent Let me quote from the catechism of the

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Council of Trent The just use of this power Speaking of the death penalty

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The just use of this power far from involving the crime of murder is an act of paramount obedience to this commandment which prohibits murder so the

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Council of Trent and before this you could

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You could create an absolutely airtight argument that the

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Magisterium of the Roman Catholic Church Had taught That it is appropriate to execute people for certain heinous crimes that the death penalty is

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Just an appropriate and in fact It says here is an act of paramount obedience to this commandment which prohibits murders was talking about the

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Ten Commandments it's talking about the commandment not to take life and I Agree with the

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Council of Trent That a society that will not kill predators but instead

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Steals from the rest of us to provide them With food and shelter and medical care for the rest of their lives

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Because that's what if you don't have the death penalty then that's what you're doing you're gonna put somebody away and You're going to Feed them and clothe them and shelter them and at least in the olden days give basic medical attention now if you're in California or We're talking about federal prisoners

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They can ask for gender assignment surgery and You'll pay for that Pretty amazing, isn't it?

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That is not a society that is protecting life That's not a society

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You know people say if you're pro -life if you're against the murder of a child in the womb Then you should not be for the death penalty

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That's such an incredibly shallow position to take The same

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God who said you shall not murder Likewise said that if someone does murder then their life is to be taken

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By The community By we would call the state today

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But by the community because this is a person The taking the taking of innocent life

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It's the issue is innocent life the taking of innocent life is a fundamental violation of biblical norms of norms go all the way back to Cain and Abel and While a

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Repentant murderer can find forgiveness. They still need to be executed in a just society

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But we don't have a just society any longer because we don't believe that men are creating the image of God any longer and therefore there's no foundation for having justice that all becomes whatever a

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Particular people group decide at a particular time anyway So to be pro -life is to protect life in the womb and afterwards and so if someone

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Commits murder. I mean, I can't get out of my mind. I haven't I haven't looked for it I've thought about doing it, but I've mentioned to you once before the video clip

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I saw on Twitter From Chicago of One individual these these people spill out of what's clearly a bar late at night

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Probably gang stuff and there's one individual goes to his vehicle gets a semi -automatic pistol and In cold blood with Without the slightest evidence of remorse thinking he's the coolest thing on the planet

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He killed one two three four five people from one camera angle

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Mercilessly shoot them down then walk up and shoot him right between the eyes Execution style and then walks back to the vehicle and gets in with his buddies that individual

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Must be tried Swiftly and Executed swiftly not 20 years down the road

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Not 30 years down the road Two months down the road

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No more if justice could be done or just expect the body count just How many in Chicago last week?

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I don't know There's a whole website that keeps track of it. Wow a couple weeks ago

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It was 60 -something 60 70 -something in one weekend and nobody cares. Nobody says a word about it if the people on the left had any

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Humanity even left to them they would be screaming about they don't care that doesn't doesn't fit the narrative.

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So it doesn't matter You see someone like that and the just thing that the

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Loving life thing is to take that person's life Because if they're willing to do that, they will do it again given the opportunity

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It might be it might be the the guard in the jail and with the bleeding heart leftist liberals out there they might let that person out again and They'll do it again and the taking of those innocent lives.

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That is the great tragedy biblically speaking So The council of the the the catechism of the

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Council of Trent was right The just use this power far from involving the crime of murder is an act of paramount obedience to this commandment

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Which prohibits murder that was the infallible teaching of the Roman Catholic Church in 1566 it isn't anymore and here's the evidence 1993

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James Kirk needs his glasses 1993

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Preserving this is 2266 The new number in the current catechism is 2267.

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So there's been some changing of the numeration stuff Preserving the common good of society requires rendering the aggressor unable to inflict harm

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This reason the traditional teaching of the church has acknowledged as well founded the right and duty of legitimate public authority

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To punish malefactors by means of penalties commensurate with the gravity of the crime Not excluding in the cases of extreme gravity the death penalty

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For analogous reasons those holding authority have the right to repel by armed force aggressors against the community in their charge

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The primary effect of punishment is to redress the disorder caused by the offense when this when his punishment is voluntarily accepted by the offender

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It takes on the value of expiation Moral repunishment has the effect of preserving public order and the safety of persons finally punishment has a medicinal value

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As far as possible it should contribute to the correction of the offender That's the penitentiary concept their capital punishment within the teaching of the church

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This is this is what it's saying consistent traditional teaching of the church. The state has that right?

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2018 Francis says nope Francis says nope and He changed as I said, what is now 2267 so the new the new version of 2267 recourse to the death penalty on the part of legitimate authority following a fair trial was long considered

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An appropriate response to the gravity of certain crimes and an acceptable albeit extreme means of safeguarding the common good today

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However, there is an increasing awareness That the dignity of the person is not lost even after the commission of very serious crimes

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In addition a new understanding has emerged of the significance of penal sanctions imposed by the state Lastly more effective systems of detention have been developed

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Which ensure the due protection of citizens, but at the same time do not definitively deprive the guilty of the possibility of redemption

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Consequently the church teaches in In the light of the gospel that the death penalty is inadmissible

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Because it is an attack on the inviolability and dignity of the person and She works with determination

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For its abolition worldwide end quote, okay

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Now you can stand on your head. You can spin in circles you can Drink all the bud light you can find because there's plenty of it around these days because nobody else is drinking it

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And make yourself just completely sauced You can't put those two things together

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You cannot get around the fact that the Pope changed what the church taught

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Was her consistent tradition all along? If the

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Pope's right now This is wrong if the Pope's right now the

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Council of Trent was wrong, and I know what you have to do

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Well, you know catechisms aren't dogmatic and this statement isn't you have to start doing you have to start doing what lawyers do

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To try to get around the fact that your client has contradicted himself.

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I Remember clearly and I've talked about this more than once. I remember clearly when we first first started engaging with Roman Catholics Catholic answers specifically the big attraction in A changing world and things weren't changing nearly as fast back then as they are now, but in a changing world

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We have stability We have sameness we have an infallible source of authority and All you've got is the

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Bible and so sola scriptura is the blueprint for anarchy and bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla and Now you've got

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Francis and all of you honest

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Roman Catholics know You know that your current epistemological nightmare

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May not end with Francis Remember just a few months ago

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He's putting people with a pro -choice background on papal commissions remember that Scandalous absolutely scandalous

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Who am I to judge? Homosexuality, right, you know and you all of a sudden you're going man with the with the

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Catholic bishops the German bishops in schism We need leadership right now sort of like people

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United States going Tony Blinken's about to go to China. He is going to be made a fool of there

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Well, he's pretty foolish as it is and that's why but he's gonna be made a fool of there And we're like man, we could really use real leadership right now, and we don't have any

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Anywhere nobody in this regime Has any leadership capacity at all well, look the situation roams in The German bishops are in schism and What's Francis doing

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You know, you don't have any any In your honesty, you may not say this to other people but in your heart

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You know, you do not have any trust in this man as a leader You don't if you're just being honest with yourself and here is a clear example

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Here is the church in 1566. Here's a church in 1993. Here's the church in 2023 saying different things

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Not just different things not just a slightly changed thing, but absolutely an utter contradiction

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The Pope here is calling for the church to work with determination for the abolition of capital punishment worldwide and that same allegedly infallible

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Church at the very time of Exercising that charism of infallibility in the counter -reformation and Anathematizing Protestant teaching

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Says nope This is actually vitally important to the preservation of life and the respect of life they were right back then wrong now

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Right back then So here's the issue the

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Pope writes To the homosexual promoting Jesuits and says way to go guys praying for you.

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Hope you have a great conference and What we're being told is well, there's up there

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So it's not an official statement and he doesn't say I define and defend and did it did it did it did you do?

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I? Remember a Pope named on Aureus wrote a letter to Sergius Another bishop in in the

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East and what he said in that letter on a theological issue

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Led to his being identified as a heretic and anathematized by every person who took his position as Bishop of Rome for 400 years

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By name they had to anathematize him. Why doesn't this letter?

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Represent what the Pope actually believes. Well, hey as long as he doesn't define it. Is that really all you've got?

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Is that really all you've got? Well as long as you have them so Pope Francis kicks over next month

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Dies of some mysterious disease or just resigns that's possibility, too

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What? Are they allowed to impeach him well There you go

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He dies he resigns Your greatest nightmare is who's next?

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Because he's filled the college Cardinals with his own acolytes There's enough liberation theology amongst the

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Cardinals to choke a horse and You can sit there and say well we can make a liberation theology fit with no you can't

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No, you can't Don't look me in the eye and say that liberation theology as believed today by Francis is consistent with the theology of the

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Pope who wrote The papal syllabus of errors don't don't even try and in fact, you should be ashamed to even think it

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You know, it's not true You know in your heart of hearts that they don't believe the same thing and You know what this

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Pope believes You know what he believes about homosexuality

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Where are the statements during Pride Month? From the

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Vatican Defending those of us who are getting buried in this sewer

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I'm thankful for Roman Catholic friends That recognize the utter degradation because it is

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Of homosexuality and transgenderism and all the rest of this kind of stuff. I Appreciate that but I feel sorry for you because your

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Pope Doesn't agree with you. Oh, he may say well You know, it's disordered and you know, he'll repeat some of the stuff that said if you believe that you don't write these letters

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And you know it You know it Quit trying to make excuses like isn't that?

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For Catholic apologists since Francis became Pope full -time job making excuses for Francis That's what you do.

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You make excuses for Francis That's not what you guys were doing with John Paul II I've been around long enough to know

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That you're You're doing things differently than you used to do and you know it too and so Pope Francis Writes to Father Martin and Demonstrates that there is clearly a

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Functional disconnection Between the official

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Position of the Vatican that Homosexuality is a disordered desire and where the

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Pope is in his own thinking Because if you if you understand see

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One of the things I don't know if you notice when I read the stuff about capital punishment You know what was missing from all that?

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Scripture any type of scriptural argumentation The Roman Church doesn't very often argue from that because it's

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Scripture only means whatever Rome says it means and so you know why why have the intermediate step?

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But there was no scriptural defense of The idea that a murderer has forfeited his own life

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Because that's what it says in Genesis Because the vast majority of Roman Catholic bishops and archbishops and everybody else now

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Have been taught in educational systems To not believe that Genesis is relevant anyways it's just ancient

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Hebrew poetry and it was redacted and changed and edited and there was no Moses and So why even give it a second thought so That's why you can have a

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Pope that will affirm a And not very passionately but affirm the official stance but then we'll write private letters like this to demonstrate that when it comes to It come when it comes to where the the rubber meets the road

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When it comes to application of faith and morals Rome has come up with this this idea

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Roman Catholic politicians in the United States Have adopted the idea that you can be personally against something

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But not want to push that on everybody else And so you've got your private life and then you've got your public life

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I mean, they've taken radical to Kingdom to its ultimate ultimate perspective and So I'm personally opposed to abortion, but I would not want to force out upon anyone else

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I'm done in this situation Well, the church teaches that homosexuality is a disorder disorders

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But but who am I to judge and you know, we want you all together worshiping with us and we'll do the mass

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Hey look Listen to me. Um, I thought you all took the mass seriously.

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I thought that all this stuff about Transubstantiation propitiatory sacrifice real presence

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We used to debate that stuff. I thought it was the central act of Roman Catholic worship, but if The bishop in San Francisco can tell

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Nancy Pelosi Don't bother coming to mass because you are consistently pushing the murder of unborn children

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Good job, dude, and then she goes to Rome and the

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Pope Allows her to go to mass in Rome Totally undercutting the bishop of San Francisco.

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Don't tell me you take that thing. Seriously Don't don't tell me and if you've got these high -level people performing mass

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At the Catholic equivalent of the revoice conference Don't tell me you actually believe that's the sacrifice of Christ.

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It's a propitiatory. Don't don't even bother You're way too inconsistent you're contradicting yourself right left and center don't bother so I Unless something happens.

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I'm probably gonna outlive Francis Okay, so I'm gonna get to see this successor

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And if he is if he continues in the mode of Francis What are you all gonna how many red pills is it gonna take?

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Before you start realizing because I I I said hey Can When can

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Rome change its view on? This subject and I had a number of people including yes, my dear friend out there

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I I saw your tweet a lot of people said nope can't do it Francis has done it on the death penalty

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Don't don't tell me there's not a difference between 1566 and 20. Okay, that's 500 years

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It's true. No, not quite 500 years, but close enough That's true and I recognize that it would be difficult on a practical level to make a fundamental change in one step.

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I get that But he's not doing it in one step He's filling the papal biblical

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Commission with his acolytes the Cardinals with his acolytes and that is changing everything and The fact the matter is what you believe is when the when it comes down to it

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You have one ultimate authority even in the interpretation of what the church has taught in the past and It's that Bishop of Rome When The Babylonian captivity the church

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That schism was healed by a council the papacy couldn't do it The papacy could not heal the schism the

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Council of Pisa couldn't do it ended up with three popes When the Council of Constance finally did that There was a point right then where there was the possibility the conciliar is a might have a chance the

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Pope crushed it and Pretty much from that point onward and with Vatican one

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You can't you can't get away from it Vatican one makes the

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Pope the final interpreter of the Christian tradition itself and So if you're sitting you're going yeah, you know

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Francis, yeah Francis can Reinterpret our tradition that we've said was constant and Negate it

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That's what he's done Would it be difficult for him to do something on this?

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He's doing it, but he's doing it slowly he's doing it incrementally and on what basis

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Could you ever Say he was wrong You can't you can try

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But you've accepted an unbiblical office It's been wrong from the start

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There's no way around it, but you're stuck with There's a better way.

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There's a way that brings peace. There's a way that brings you a recognition of a right standing with God And we want to invite you to that and have been for a very very long period of time

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All right. There you go. Yes, sir On that note. I noticed last night after you posted the link to this one

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Jordan Mills had Posted the Pope sending a letter with no dogmatic declaration of any kind for faith or morals to an

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LGBT Plus event doesn't really say anything except the fact that Francis is quite liberal, right?

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To which I was intrigued by that phrasing and we've heard it lots of times. Yep When was the last time that a

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Pope? Issued a dogmatic declaration of any kind for faith or morals not only that but this was a letter to a priest a person with position in the church

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Similar to honorius his letter to Sergius on a matter of faith and morals on a matter of application of faith and morals in the church and They was one.

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Oh, no. No, it's just personal. It doesn't matter It shows what he believes and it shows the application on faith and morals but this is why the whole doctrine of papal infallibility is

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Utterly irrelevant. It's a joke because the Pope is Right unless he's wrong and you never know whether he's wrong or not

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And this is their little way of sliding out from underneath it But again, I'm intrigued by the question because Jordan Phrases it and I'm going okay

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How long has it been since a Pope did something of consequence? Because that's

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Jordan's claim here. Yep. There's nothing to see here folks move along Nothing important going on because unless the

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Pope does a Dogmatic declaration for faith and morals. We don't need to pay attention

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So why do you have the Pope then what good has he been for a long time? According to your own standards.

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I know I know it. I know it and There are a lot of folks out there that know it as well.

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They still know what to do They saw what to do and I I do not rejoice in that I Just hope and pray that you'll see where where you took the wrong turn and that there is

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There is a better way. There is a better way. Yes, sir, real real quick here Ely, Minnesota Can we trust

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I'm not I'm not saying that anymore. I'm just not gonna say it anymore. So it's ELY, Minnesota Is that I refer to Eli?

01:02:44

Eli July 14th through the 16th James will be speaking at Berean Baptist Church 2281 old highway

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This list says I 69 it may mean 169 I don't know

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Ely, Minnesota and I will be posting this to the calendar and getting all that up there.

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But on Friday night 7 p .m How we got our Bibles Saturday at 10 a .m. The reliability of the

01:03:14

Bible there will be lunch 2 p .m. Doctrine of Sola Scriptura 7 p .m. Sufficiency of Scripture that Sunday morning at 9 a .m

01:03:21

Bible translations, I guess that's gonna be Sunday school and then at 1030 to worship you'll be preaching

01:03:27

What is the gospel and so folks if you are planning on going to this?

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You need to contact the church and RSVP at two one eight three six five

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Five four one three or email one truth north Well one word one truth north at gmail .com

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and let them know that you are planning on coming. So because they are north. Oh Yeah, almost,

01:03:54

Canadia. Oh most man. I'm very close. Yeah, you gotta have to watch your your accent up there

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Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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I'm not I'm just go I'm going to Eli, Minnesota That's just that's all I'm gonna say from now on is

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Eli, Minnesota yeah, it's gonna be a it's gonna be a fast trip up there long days and But but along the way

01:04:24

Along the way finally after all these years after all these years,

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I Am having dinner with Milo Hotzenbuehler I'm gonna get together with Milo Hotzenbuehler after all these years

01:04:41

Having them on the program and and the old chat channel and all the rest that stuff We are going to finally get to meet as I drive up to Eli Looking forward to that greatly.

01:04:55

All right. Thanks for listening to the program today we will see yeah, we will we are here next week, even though I will be picking up the unit and and Rich and I have got lots of work to be doing and stuff like that on that But we will still be here in the studio.

01:05:10

I need to get in the other studio. I feel sorry. Oh It's a mess. Oh, it is.

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Oh, oh, I see

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So I was gonna say we need to have some programs next week over there but the the look on Rich's face is like Really We'll see what happens.