Refreshing Dr. White's Memory - Why Make Me Do This?

Good morning doctor So I'm not a hundred percent sure that this is even needed at this point because I think you understand what

I'm referring to now But still are kind of denying That it means anything

I don't know But I did want to respond with the video clip that I promised from from last night before I went to sleep

I do want to set the stage here because I feel like that's important this whole Thing got started by you

Inviting everyone to read and sign the Antioch statement, which was released yesterday

In response to that Samuel Jimenez here on X said you should be ashamed of yourself for having participated in the slander of Joel Webin, dr.

White you respond that Samuel should be ashamed of himself for coming to that conclusion based on Upon internet randos partial information and refusal to wait until a response has been posted

Samuel then responds. Sorry. I don't know Greek I do know you threatened to name names with one side of the story and the same amount of equal partial information as I had and then

Dr. White this is where you Respond, where did I threaten to do this referring to where Samuel said you threatened to name names?

and Then you say references, please or are you just believing whatever net proxies looking for clicks say you're batting a thousand for going on Partial information and coming to errant conclusions.

So this is where I stepped in. Dr. White because I felt like I should probably Provide the references and also prove, you know show that it's not internet randos that are doing this

I'm a person and my name is Adam and so I was just trying to help and I said he's referencing your own program

The dividing line. This is a close. This is close to the quote referring to Joel Webb and of right response ministries

The reason why I said it was close to the quote is because I wasn't 100 % sure my memory was exactly accurate but it was basically accurate and so I quoted this is close to the quote and Do not make and don't make me name names because I will exclamation point and then

I further explain Again, just to be helpful. So you remember what we're talking about your facial expression at this point in the video appeared serious

Then I said the larger context of the quote involved you explaining why people should leave Joel's church if he did not

Excommunicate the man responsible for the Holocaust meme if that's not enough reference to help

I'd be happy to clip the video and share it here. So just let me know Then you responded.

Yes, please do Referring to me clipping the quote from his own video And he say please do since I never said that and I think you should know that And so then

I told him I was going to bed and I do it in the morning So that's what this is Now I do want to say one thing and just in the interest of accuracy

I'm basically a hundred percent right about everything I say here. But one thing I do want to clarify is that The quotation which we'll see in a moment.

He doesn't say people should leave Joel's church if he didn't excommunicate the man But rather he said if he didn't put him under church discipline now in our you know

In when you're just talking to people oftentimes church discipline and excommunication are used interchangeably

But it's not exactly the same thing. And so in the interest of accuracy I do want to say that you know,

I if if I could rewrite the tweet I would say if he did not church discipline the man But excommunication is close enough and of course

We all know because we all understand how this works that excommunication is a part of church discipline again assuming there's no repentance and All of this kind of thing.

So it's a part of church discipline. It's not exactly the same thing The part is not the same as the whole but when we're just talking obviously, you know

These terms are used interchangeably and everybody kind of understands what is meant by that but I did want to clarify that in the interest of accuracy and So James I'm gonna play a large clip

It's not just the part where you say don't make me name names where you threaten to name names because I will

It's not just that part but it includes that part, but I think the larger context matters and so here we go

This is from an episode of your own program From July 31st of this year and it's titled another road trip

DL from Colorado insane Conspiracy theory

That the Jews were behind everything well, it's happening again He was talking about the original on American college campuses and evidently in reformed churches

I am thankful that Doug was addressing it and Taking heat for it, and I'm sure

I'll take heat for saying this and I'll look I'll look any reform man the eye

Who would laugh at that meme and you need to repent? Need to be put under church discipline if you're in a position of leadership.

You need to step down now now

Don't make me name names Because I will this is disgusting.

It is an indication that Even men who have well -known ministries

Can lose balance over time and I'm again thankful that Doug is taking a stand

Many others as well. I hope and pray But if you start seeing this kind of stuff in your church, don't be silent about it

Go the elders and if the elders don't care about it get out of there as Fast as you can because that's a church in name only it's lost its way

It's lost its way. Now. I'm not sitting here going. Oh, I agree with everything

Israel does All right, that's the relevant portion portion of this a couple things that I'd like to just point out and and It's it's ridiculous that I have to do this, but it's just it's just what is what it is

Number one you you hear him specifically reference Doug Wilson's blog post on the meme

The meme in question is definitively the meme that we're talking about with with Joel Webbins Church And then he also he you hear the quotation which

I got essentially exactly right, you know, I don't know Maybe the punctuations off or something like that Don't make me name names very serious look because I will with a very, you know kind of dramatic pause after that and So what

I've seen James say is that he didn't even know this was necessarily about Joel Webbin And he was just saying don't make me name names

I don't know I guess rhetorically But that's you know, that's very weird because you know

Presumably if somebody's saying Don't make me name names. That means he has the name

Top of mind, you know what? I mean? Don't make me name names because I will means that you can name names

Otherwise, what what is the rhetoric? What purpose does the rhetoric serve? But also even more so than that if you continue to listen along with me

He also starts referencing this just goes to show you that even people with you know well -known ministries can lose balance

And this is right around the same time where he talks about leaving the church Not not only leaving the church if the pastor doesn't do anything about this or in his words care about it

But leave quickly leave right away essentially is what he's saying But but so so but the thing is he know he

Knows enough about the name of the person that he knows. They have a well -known ministry a public ministry

And so I mean, I suppose it's within the realm of possibility that you knew it was a big -name ministry

But didn't know that it was Joel Webbin. I guess I mean, I can't say that that's impossible

But then at that point you are still threatening to name names, even though you don't know the name now

I personally don't believe that you didn't know the name I think you did know full well that you were talking about Joel Webbin, which you were talking about whether you knew it or not

Whether you knew it or not. See this is what's important about this whether or not you knew that it was

Joel Webbin You knew you could find out and in this clip you are threatening to find out and name names

Again, assuming you didn't know which is kind of what you're saying right now so Dr.

White I believe that that suffices here Because here you tell

Samuel Jimenez. Where did I threaten to name names? References, please. That's the reference.

So the reference is you threatened to name names? And again, I'm gonna give you a lot of leeway here and say maybe you didn't know which

I mean, I don't believe that But maybe you didn't but even if you didn't this is where you threatened to name names in this clip on your own show and so I Think that that suffices

Dr. White I don't understand Why this is important to you to pretend like you didn't name names and that I didn't have the clip of you doing it

And then and it all really seems to be intended to to to have people not trust me, right?

But the thing is I'm sure there's other ways to have people not trust me and I'm okay with that But the thing is this one was so easily

Disprovable like it's easy to not to prove that you're not right here. I Just don't understand what the what's the payoff for this one?

What's the payoff for this deception I don't understand I really don't this seems like a very like I can understand when somebody stretches the truth or lies or miss, you know

Misinterpret something or misframe something when there's a payoff to it I could

I mean it's not right, but I could at least understand where it's coming from This one doesn't seem to have any payoff whatsoever and so You'll notice

I didn't say that you did name names at that point I said you threatened to name names at this point that's exactly what

Samuel said as well and so I mean you might think that I'm an internet rando and a

What is the other one? net proxy looking for clicks and That's okay.

If that's your if it's that's if that's your character is characterization of me I mean, I really can't do anything about that But in this case whether or not

I'm random or a proxy or just looking for clicks I'm right, and you're wrong.

I Provided the video proof that I said I would you said it didn't exist. I just I'm concerned that You're really angry and you're letting your anger get the best of you

You're making mistakes and and you're you're you're very sloppy right now In fact yesterday, dr.

White. I don't know if you saw the video, but you attributed to me again without naming me so it's very It's tough to it's tough to really talk about these things because you just don't have enough respect

For your own audience or for me to name me But you said that I told Scott and Neil to delete his account and resign and leave the ministry

You're just you're just acting irrationally here. I didn't say he should resign or leave the ministry

I did say he should delete his account, which you might not like but you know, it's a meme It's a way to get him to admit the truth.

Basically, obviously, he's not gonna delete his account and if he did, I mean, I don't think many people would shed tears, but But you you're just not being careful

You know what? I mean, and it certainly seems like the the carelessness that you're showing is all

Designed it's all part of a plan To just mudsling at guys like me and other people that you don't particularly care for It's not a good look

I mean people make mistakes and everyone can understand that but number one when the mistakes are never admitted

And you just kind of dig your heels in and move the goalposts and stuff That's that that becomes something more than just a mistake

And then the other thing is when the mistakes all happen in one direction, you know what

I mean where there's mercy Only for your team and then there's nothing but mudslinging and and vitriol and sloppy

Mistakes putting words in people's mouth towards the other direction We've we've seen this so many times, you know, the mistakes in the media always go against the

Republicans We always we understand what that's about. It's because it's not really mistakes It's just they don't they want to destroy the other side right that that's what's going on here

I think I don't think you make these kinds of mistakes with your friends But you make them regularly with people that you don't care for which

I guess I'm included in that which which Legitimately doesn't make me feel happy. You know, I don't like being disliked by you.

It's not it's not my thing But I've come to accept my position, you know what

I mean? And that's that's the reality. I've come to accept my position You are practicing friend -enemy distinction and I'm not a friend

From your perspective. Dr. White. I am your friend. And I think um, I think that you really need to take a

Step back a good look in the mirror Why is it that I like? Like why are you making me do this?

That's the thing. Why are you making me do this? Why are you making me so easily show that what you said?

You'd never said you obviously and publicly and everybody knows that you said

Like why why why offer me that opportunity? I don't understand

But I am trying to be helpful and maybe you just forgot I don't think that you did but maybe you did and so these clips hopefully will settle this issue

You most definitively threatened to name names and before I finish let me just get this clear regardless of whether you knew the name when you made the threat you made the threat and it still counts and Whether you had to do some work to figure out the name before you could make good on your threat or not

That is all irrelevant. The threat was made. You knew it was a big ministry. You knew you could get the name if you wanted to I think you already had it

But let's just give you the credit all the credit in the world You still made the threat that here you told

Samuel and me and the entire internet that you never made Dr.

White this is something that you could gain a little bit of credibility back and say, you know what

I was wrong I did make the threat and if you're sorry for the threat you can say sorry

I don't think you are because in future dividing lines You kind of double down on this and you say that you were serious and all of this kind of stuff and even and this

Is another thing that I feel like I'll point out before I wrap up Before you made the threat.

Dr. White You said this is going to get me in trouble or this is gonna get me, you know

This is going to you know Cause a problem like you knew ahead of time before you made the threat you introduced the threat by saying

I know the react what? The reaction is gonna be like to this essentially I don't remember the exact quote, but it was it was there you can go back and you can listen to it yourself

Yeah This was a you knew this was a big thing to say and so I just don't get

Why you would feel the need to pretend like you didn't say it In any case, dr.