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The Dublin Debates on the Quran, the Bible, and Jesus’ Cry of Dereliction

Webcasting around the world from the desert metropolis of Phoenix, Arizona. This is the dividing line. The Apostle Peter commanded Christians to be ready to give a defense for the hope that is within us.

Yet to give that answer with gentleness and reverence. Our host is dr. James White director of Alpha Omega ministries and an elder at the Phoenix Reformed Baptist Church. This is a live program and we invite your participation.

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Here is James White. And welcome to the dividing line, you know. It says webcasting all around the world and I'm not sure if rich had his tongue in his cheek when he first recorded that which was What about 1954 when we recorded that I'm trying to remember.

But you know, it's true Everywhere I go. I was just in Dublin yesterday flew back home yesterday 31 hour day yesterday when you had the seven hours back, you know, so what. My arms are very tired. Yes.

It was a very long lot of flapping but Every place I go It doesn't matter whether it's there or Germany or Peru or Sydney London and Scotland. Always people come out of the sand. I listen to the dividing line all the time and I just it's amazing me I mean what what what is our our advertising budget for the for the for the year again?

Yeah that that's what I thought nothing zip zero nada. We have no advertising budget. We we are the world's worst Networkers and marketers and everything else and yet man this thing just gets we do have a budget.

Yes. It's called free Wherever free advertising is available. I go after it. Oh, that's I don't actually I don't even think you do that. No, no, you see. No, we don't Facebook. Yeah. Okay. I that's it.

Okay. All right. Well, okay. Anyway, it is worldwide. There is no two ways about that Start off with This was a very quickly put together trip we were working with students at universities and students universities have other things to be doing and Trying to get them to make commitments ahead of time.

It's very very difficult and yet the opportunity very very much Appreciated the first I flew over on I left Sunday afternoon And arrived Monday morning in in Dublin wasn't really a it's not really that bad a trip.

I I find going out I find going east Much higher than going West. I think most people do Because you lose the time Seven hours going over you gain it coming back. And but I don't know why but it you know, I just slept horribly that first night and Part of us because I'm in downtown Dublin.

I mean I'm staying literally in downtown Dublin. We're talking cobblestone streets and lots of pubs and I I was having trouble figuring out how to turn off the radiator thing because that's how you you Warm the room.

There's no such thing as an air conditioner, obviously. You warm the room by these these hot water radiators and It was warmer than I wanted in my room. And so I had the window but it might have gotten up to 43 as a high while I was there.

It didn't rain has never rained. I mean no actually I'll take that back. I just realized there was a couple rainy days and I first went to Dublin two years ago. But anyway, so I have the window open. Well, I discovered pretty quickly why they actually have two sets of windows in this hotel because first of all Once the pubs let out heard some interesting behavior in the streets outside shall we say and Then once those folks stumbled home You've got all these people making the deliveries and so trucks are going by and and You know the trash pickup and it was just you it didn't take long.

So I had the outer windows closed and then found out why they had the inner windows in so that you could actually Try to sleep but anyways got there on Monday had a chance to go over to Trinity and I bought Clementine a a shirt that has Trinity College Dublin on it and then it says under undergraduate.

It's for three to six month olds, so she'll never appreciate that obviously. But I've discovered that when you're a grandparent you just buy clothes the grandkids for you. It's not really for them. It's for you because they they could care less at that age, you know, they they throw up on it or do whatever.

They don't it doesn't really matter to them very much. But anyway, so I had a chance to go over to to Trinity again and just sort of. And also I got a chance to go to the world's greatest Irish tweed shop.

Ah. Don't even get me started on that it's right across the street from. It's the Kevin and Howland tweed shop in in Dublin, it's it's wonderful. So Anyways, I wandered around downtown Dublin a little bit, but obviously I had work to do.

I needed to get my presentations put together for UCD and for Trinity and The first debate was in this. We had to drive to it. And so I just I do want to thank Joe Riley and his wife and Little daughter who went to both debates including little daughter.

For picking me up at the airport taking me to the airport and driving me to UCD. Joe has been our our Dublin contact there and so if you enjoyed the debates then thank thank Joe for for his hard work and fellowship in the defense of the gospel and so he picked me up on this would have been Tuesday and we headed to UCD and Rush hour traffic in Dublin's not overly Fun, but we managed to get there and it's in one of these Lecture theaters and you've you've seen them if you've watched the video you've already seen this man.

That lecture theater was steep. I mean it was The the one in Trinity was much much easier to go up and down the stairs. It was more natural. So it made for a bigger room, but wow, it was really steep.

I'm just really surprised people don't fall down those things and break their necks almost weekly in in those places. But anyway, we we had a good debate on the subject of The Bible of the Quran which way forward what's the answer to our problem?

And I knew I you know, there'll be some people I told him before debate even started I told him exactly where Adnan would go. I knew where I'd go and I knew it was gonna be trying to undercut the Bible and and then once you've tried to sow seeds of Doubt into the into the text of the Bible then you Then you promote the Quran.

You don't use of course the same standards In attacking the Bible that you use in defending the Quran. Because Islam could not survive that that's why there is no such thing as a consistent Islamic apologist because You'd cease being a Islamic apologist if you became consistent, that's the point.

It's it's built into the system and I'll have to admit I can imagine some of you Sit back and you watch those debates and you go Haven't you answered all of that a thousand times before and in a sense, yes, and in a sense, yes.

If I were a person given to A frustration in Having to repeat myself and I'm a human being so I am given to frustration having to repeat myself over and over and over again on a certain level, but I recognize that each one of these opportunities is Another opportunity with another group of Muslims.

I in general the vast majority of Muslims do not invest the kind of time or effort In Listening to our side that we invest in listening to their side and Even Muslim apologists generally don't take don't bother to listen to this program listen to my reviews their debates listen to my debates against other Muslims, they just they don't tend to do that at all and So as a result When I had the opportunity to stand there and Some of you that watched it Ironically in both debates Almost the same question was asked in both debates by different people and it was very question.

I wanted asked the first night This guy at the very top of the of the theater Asks about Jesus's statement Eloy Eloy Lama Sabachthan. I remember last week or the week before I reviewed the Outrageous statements of dr. Lawrence Brown Scholar extraordinaire on The Dean show where he said the Jesus that the the New Testament ascribing those words Jesus blasphemous now in the process He sort of like forgot to mention if he even knew That What Jesus doing was quoting Psalm 22 1 and he said it was blasphemous that the New Testament says it But he doesn't tell the people the whole story because it doesn't really know it and by the way, he's been responding to my emails and Has informed me that I'm a coward and and things like that.

Of course, he's the one who won't debate me But I'm I'm he can can judge my spirituality long-distance and that that I'm all bluster. And but I'm a but I'm a coward and I said, let me see if I understand this I'm the guy that was debating in the East London mosque four days after Benghazi and you're the guy that will only make your statements On the Dean show.

Okay. I got you. I See, I see how this works. Anyways, I have my challenge to Lawrence Brown stands. He'll never take it up because he knows he absolutely knows He could never defend the things he says on the Dean show against any knowledgeable opponent he knows it and When you when I know that, you know Then that means you're dishonest.

You're you're deceptive. You're just making money off the Muslims and it's just a disgusting thing. But anyways the vast majority of the Muslims Who attend these debates Have never heard an answer to that question.

They've heard people like Lawrence Brown call it blasphemy, but they've never heard a knowledgeable Christian explaining What's going on when Jesus says Eloy Eloy Lama sabachthani so I get three minutes at the UCD debate to basically preach that text.

Preach that text. That's what I did. I explained what the background was and The messianic prophecies of Psalm 22 and I challenged all the Muslims to read the 22nd Psalm listen to what is said there and all the fulfillments and all these things and Then to briefly explain the issue of the Trinity and this is the father speaking to the son.

It's that son speaking father the father did not become flesh and you know I went through all that and as best you can in three minutes anyways so the next night we're at Trinity and And I thought the Trinity debate was a little bit better Adnan and I had had lunch together and only a few hours earlier and I think that sort of helped the debate some to get to know each other a little bit better and Here again a Muslim in the back most of Muslims were down front at Trinity but there were some that came in and sat in the back and Here's a young guy and he puts up his hand and he asks not the same question.

That the first guy was going how can Jesus? Say these things. How can Jesus make this kind of a statement? The second guy is just going who's Jesus talking to? Who is it? Who is it Jesus talking to if you say he's God then is this like a ventriloquist thing?

So it's almost a Mormon level argument and So I have the opportunity to go hey You don't understand the doctrine of the Trinity and I lay it out for him. And I said, I'll tell you what You come down here after the debates over you give me your email address I'll get in contact with you and I will send you a copy of the Forgotten Trinity and that's exactly what he did and that's exactly what we're gonna do and You just have to remember That there are people who come to these things that this is the only one they may ever hear and so yeah I have to repeat the same things over and over again, but you know what?

Every time you present the gospel aren't you repeating the same things over and over again? So, yeah, I'm I'm willing to do that and that's that's what we were what we were doing. Yes, sir. I was gonna say last night I got a chance finally to breathe and take at least take in I believe it was the UCD Debate the I have a bowtie on or my new really pretty blue tweed jacket.

I Don't recall. I was listening. I'm really watching. Sorry I'm really crushed by that. But anyway, this is really cool bowtie, too. By the way, I and I found that Obviously, like you're saying the the odd nuns initial opening remarks were pretty much the same things we've heard before.

What I found unique is as you're looking up to the screen above you trying to get I did see that part Trying to get that is set up. Was that you see that was you CD? Okay well, the screen was above me at both of the the fellow that videoed it panned back and caught that in and he It's like We have the hundred verse memorization system for Mormons And it was like you're you're presenting the hundred verse or the verse memorization system for Islam it's just one verse after the other verse after the other verse after the other verse and to me that just had so much impact in Comparison to his opening remarks in his opening statement.

Well in the one you were listening to did he go first or did I go? He went first. Okay, so you're watching the Trinity one. Okay, and it just I was going through mark. Yeah, the mark passages and you kept saying and no we're still a mark we're just a mark we're still a mark and I don't know if you When you're presenting this have a feeling of how much impact that has but for me It was a huge enormous contrast.

It was just pounding at home. Well, there's a I You know, I've I've often wondered why it is that all of my opponents whatever Perspective it is that they're defending Don't recognize that you are speaking to an audience.

Okay. Okay, you're in a debate. You only have a certain amount of time fine. I try sometimes I fail sometimes I have a timer issue or I I designed the presentation for 25 minutes. I get there and everyone got 20.

Okay, I'm not perfect at it, but I Think I'm I'm not quite there yet, but I'm pushing a hundred and thirty debates now and If you do something that many times you better get better at it over time because you get worse over time you might want to stop doing that but What I try to do obviously is Have a consistent Presentation have an opening have the argumentation and have a closing tie it up make it something memorable to the audience.

So many of my opponents from Mormons to Jehovah's Witnesses Roman Catholics to Muslims to atheists They just start talking and when they run out of time okay, well Continue this on the other side or something like that.

And and it's it's just it's just like it's it just dies. Yeah. The timing is vital. The other thing that just occurred to me the the one thing that I'm I was left with about Adnan's Introduction was Okay.

We believe the got well, we don't believe the Gospels, but we believe some parts of the got no Paul. He's out. He's right out. He's right. I know and and Right out there particular things in the Gospels that are true as long as they look like they came from the Quran or something Like that, but I'm not gonna tell you which ones they are right and I'm not gonna list any of them.

And but we got this triangle thing here and marks on top and right but we don't really well. You know and then you come in and okay, let's start with Mark. Boom verse 1 boom verse he walking through the gospel.

Yep. Yep, and that's what I said to people I said look I can sit here and I can go with these Gospels and I can start from the beginning and go through the end and I can give you a consistent interpretation of each one of these texts and I can do it on the basis the original languages and It basis the original context and I don't have to do what the liberals do and bring in these external Contexts and do all the rest of stuff I can actually let it speak for itself and the scary thing for you is I can get with the Quran too and It still amazes me I think one of the most amazing parts of the debates have done the Muslims is is the debate with the Psalms of Wadi where I was the one actually arguing that You could interpret surah 5 in a consistent way and it was the Muslim saying we don't really know I mean, we can't really tell and and You know, so on and so forth and it's it's it's an amazing amazing thing to observe.

So Anyway the first night The at the end the the student Association that the Christian student Christian and Muslim students Associated gotten together and they got Adnan and I a little box of Irish chocolates.

Let me tell you something. Those were some of the best chocolates I have ever eaten. I forget what they was it or I forget what the name of them were but they were their handmade Irish chocolates and oh my goodness.

Those were good. And then the Christian Student Union had it had set up a Reception afterwards and so I quickly packed my stuff up grabbed Adnan and We got out of there because if we stand there no one's ever gonna go to the reception.

So we got out of there went to the reception. I think we were in there for about an hour and I'm standing over there and I'm pretty much I did have a couple conversations with one fellow from Albania I think one other Muslim, but they were brief and You know They just had a question and I answered the questions like oh I never thought of that and I was it most of the rest of my conversations were with Christians listeners of the dividing line.

We had these two wonderful young men who were studying there who are going back to Brazil. They had not expected to do this, but they're going back to Brazil as missionaries and they wanted information on presuppositional apologetics to use in Brazil and I got a chance to pray with them and try to encourage them and it was just wonderful.

To get a chance to to talk with all these folks and and they want to take pictures a few people had some books. They wanted to have signed and so yeah, well pretty just a few feet away from me is a much louder conversation where Adnan has sat down and The pastor of the Reformed Baptist Church he and him I mean, I don't think anybody else got to even talk to Adnan the entire hour and Adnan was very gracious.

He he sat there and he It didn't get mean or nasty or like that. He just sat there and with a smile on his face and engaged in the conversation that's what we did for basically an hour until they kicked us all out of the place in essence closing it closing it down and So we we had to had to get out of there but it was.

It was a great debate. And again, I could just when I see these young Muslims and They're listening this I can just tell they've never heard anything like this in their lives they've and and I'm telling you something I am Gonna be doubling down on finishing Sahih Muslim and then I'm gonna do the Muwatta of Malik and Malik's Muwatta after that.

Because when you look at him at a Muslim you say look not only have I read the Quran numerous times. But I've read all of Sahih al-Bukhari. I've read Sahih Muslim I've read them when you start going through these things and you can narrate hadith to them.

They're like What planet did you come from? I? Mean, they just don't encounter Christians that are going to invest that kind of time and effort Into knowing their faith and this is something I talked with Adnan about as a you know, it seems like the most effort comes from our side and I can guarantee you one thing the most effort at being fair Without any question comes from our side because I'm reading some books and people who spent a lot of time Rummaging through sources whether they're actually Christian sources or not is another issue.

But I'm specifically referring to it's our al-haq the 1864 work and then the modern incarnation of it's our al-haq. And that's by Sami Ahmadi called a hunting for God's Word or the Word of God. No, that's him.

Anyway. At least we try to be fair and very few of my Muslim opponents seek to do that and I challenged Adnan on the fairness of I'm gonna keep challenging him on it because he's quoting folks that he just shouldn't be quoting and People who listen carefully will hear that I stood up I said There is not a single person that Adnan Rashid just quoted in his attacks on a New Testament That would accept what Adnan Rashid said about the Quran about his historicity about you know That it's not changed somehow somehow make everything right and historical.

There's not a one of those people that he quoted That would back him up on his positive statements about Islam not a one of them I Just caused someone who's on a diet and channel to Distumble by the reference to chocolate.

I'm sorry about that. But that's just the way it is. Anyway. Not a one of them would do it and he never responded any of that he never just just had to let that stuff go because it's transparently true and So the one thing that was really unusual about these debates Was the audience stuff which normally I'll be honest with you.

They're like Do we really have to do this? A lot of the audience stuff Really had much more value this time now when the Christians asked questions, I think if you asked Almost any one of the Christians who asked questions did Adnan Answer your question to your satisfaction they would have said no in Fact they they try to come back and say but that's not the question I asked.

You know one of them asked how can Allah be personal if Allah is Unitarian and in an eternity past before he created there was No one for him to have relationship with how can he be personal and and I've non's answer just did not address it now.

It's possible non just doesn't understand the question and not knowing not understanding the doctrine to trade doesn't seen its relevance but you know, he just you know Didn't really answer the question.

I could tell that the person asking the question sort of like well, I was sort of disappointing. But there was a real contrast because I can guarantee you When the Muslims asked me a question they got an answer.

It may not been what they were expecting but many a time. It wasn't them coming back at me. It was them sort of going. Oh and like for example It's sort of like And I have Bart Ehrman actually queued up here if we get around to it.

And by the way, if you were there and I know it's what? Getting into the evening over in the Dublin if you were there and you would like to Call in and comment on the debates or whatever else. We will we will take your phone calls 877 -753 -3341 not even 100 certain.

What what that number would be from from Dublin but. And probably yeah the area code 602 973 -4602 it would be the number to call not the 800 number or the 877 number from over there. Anyway, I Do want to comment on the Canadian Supreme Court decision before we get to calls too.

But if you'd like to if like to comment or if you've watched the debates and you'd like to comment on the debates that that'd be fine as well, but Just watching the Muslims and one of the things that I did was Adnan During our cross our crossfire thing, which went really well.

This is the first time that Adnan and I had actually done crossfire I think now that we know each other We can do it better. Adnan is now in the list of of Muslim apologists that I can have that I can trust to have a back and forth with and that he's not gonna You know blow his stack or or dominate the conversation to where it's you know, make it unfair or things like that.

So so Adnan Shabir Ali Abdullah Kunda Bassam Zawadi Abdullah Al-Andalusi. These are all folks that I can do meaningful cross-examination with and it's and they're gonna have enough respect for me and for the audience to To do that, right and that's that's a good that's a good a good thing anyway.

So we were we were doing this and it's only for five minutes. So it really wasn't a long period of time, but it was the free flow regular cross-examination type thing. You know, you can call it crossfire call normally crossfire is one person talking to other person talking this is more of a cross-examination because it was asking questions and Giving answers stuff that went really well, but at one point he's like, so do you admit do you confess?

And he specifically I think made reference to the Percocet adultery in John's 753 311 well You know, there's a part of me. It's a little frustrated by that people have known about that section for From the start and it's the earliest manuscripts is found in our 500 years after after the time of Christ and Every modern Bible has a footnote in it and I don't know what let me see here.

I Wonder what page? Let's see here John Yeah 753 811 192 and 328. I'm looking at the King James line controversy. So Yeah, page 192. Okay, the two largest New Testament extra variants mark 16 9 through 20 and John 17 through 8 are addressed in part 2 so you go to part 2 and you will find an entire discussion of of this particular text and It's it's like what do you mean?

I do I admit I've written this book has been out since 1995 for crying out loud. I wrote in 94. What do you mean admit. The only meaningful way of Making that statement is to assume that the your audience that's in the audience Has not read my stuff.

And so it's like ooh, I got him to admit something. Oh Yeah, so I decided to go overboard I said, all right. Maybe you just won't do this again in the future because I did this. But he but he says so are you willing to admit right here and now?

That John 753 through 811 is a major textual variant and not found near this man I said, where's the camera? I knew where the camera was and so I sort of Didn't push him out of the side by we were sort of standing at an angle to each other behind the the podium.

So I started took the center of the podium. I looked right at the camera and I said John if I were preaching through the gospel of John, I would not preach John 753 through 811 I would explain to people is that it's a textual variant that the earliest manuscripts that come from are from 500 years after the time of Christ and that I do not believe it as a part of the canon of scripture and I would explain why that is and I have already done this in books that I've written that were published almost 20 years ago.

So it's not a matter of admitting anything let's get past this. I think he was sort of like whoa, okay didn't expect that and So I just I'm just like come on guys. You got it. You got to step up the game here.

You know at least read the stuff that I've that I've done, you know and and realize that that that's. We've been talking about this stuff and you're not even engaged in the conversation. And if you and if you're trying to get us just to admit there's a text of area there how can you even understand the interaction that I've done with Bart Ehrman and here on the program playing the Ehrman Wallace debates and going point by point by point and they're they're not even listening to that and They need to they need to if they're going to actually be making meaningful commentary on this this particular this particular subject, so The questions from the audience this time were really in general quite good and With only a few exceptions and I'll be honest primarily on the Christian side no one tried to just start preaching the.

Now I could tell the Islamic questions are meant to be objections. It's it really wasn't somebody going. Well, I really don't understand. It was it was meant to be an objection. That's fine. I understand that but We really did have a good time of the of the question-and-answer Period in In both debates and it actually added to the debates for once normally.

That's really not how it works. But this time it it really did and I got to walk to the debate at Trinity because I was right across the street from Trinity's where my hotel was and Even though it was on the other side of the campus of Trinity.

It was it wasn't a short walk, but I got to to walk to it. And so There wasn't any kind of basically, I was told that it was pretty much just the Muslims that arranged the the the Trinity one that the The Christian groups just weren't really all that interested which is unfortunate but we still had about a 50 -50 turnout as far as Christians and Muslims went so it wasn't all that bad and the Christians were real excited had great conversations with the with the Muslims that were there and just a wonderful wonderful opportunity and Interestingly enough my last two trips now, so well Yeah, Charlotte and now Dublin and may I thank everyone who who gave to make this trip a possibility.

Just don't know how important these things are and what kind of eternal impact they can have. My contact at Southern Evangelical was a South African. And we were talking about South Africa and the fact that there is a rather major Islamic Personage in South Africa that I would very much like to engage.

I've done a couple YouTube videos on him. Not as many as as I could have it's just a matter of time or anything else but he's Ahmed D dot successor there in South Africa and Yusuf Ismail is his name and and I expressed to My contact at Southern Evangelical seminary that I would very much like to debate him and Would in fact be willing to travel to South Africa to do that.

Well, lo and behold talking with Adnan. He'd like to do the same thing. He'd like to debate in South Africa against me. And of course we'd arranged debate I'd debate more than one person. It's a long ways to go but he's literally talking about later this year and so Keep an eye out because all of a sudden you may see a blog article saying with instead of One of Micah's instead of me frowning with my finger out hitchhiking to the the beautiful green mountains of Ireland.

We'll need to what does South Africa look like I have no idea so we'll have to find some appropriate background image for Micah to Photoshop me into as we seek to raise funds to to go to South Africa and so we'll we'll we'll see but Anyhow, that would that would prove to be very very very very interesting.

And so This could be my biggest traveling year ever, which is not what we expected I should have as many miles flown by June as I did all of last year because I will be teaching in Berlin in June. I'm gonna be teaching textual criticism in Berlin in June for a week and then Speaking at at a graduation there and things like that really looking forward to that opportunity as well.

And so I Something tells me I've got a good shot at going past my current Preferred flyer status to the next level of preferred flyer status. Which is basically the same thing as that Tom Hanks movie living in the airport.

You sort of have to be there that much. But it does give you more free upgrades I guess if you if you do that because I I don't even know how you get to South South Africa from here I mean my assumption is fly across the United States fly to London from London all the way to South Africa though.

That must be one Incredible flight I go with rich. I hear you really like like flying for 17 20 hours at a time. Not really. Okay, I Don't either but evidently of the two of us I handle it a little bit better than you do so We'll be really looking looking as a possibility.

So once again something about the being in the tube or Extended period of time I start getting a little stir crazy have to pace up and down the aisle. Yeah, that's just in New York, oh, please anything anything in In the u .s. For me anymore is a snoozer as I yeah, whatever I mean now the flight back yesterday from Philadelphia was long because I was against the window and there's a big guy in the middle seat and I was trying to type on my computer and so it's sort of like this type of a thing.

But that could that can get a little boring. But look after you've flown to Sydney or something like that. Yeah, it's it's no. It's no big deal. Anyhow. That's my quick report on the doings in Dublin next week.

Actually the very not this not tomorrow obviously, but next weekend I'm going to be down in Tucson at Faith Community Church speaking there Saturday night and and Sunday morning and then. The next thing that's really public I am I am to be in Southern, California The week after that, but it's more of just for a particular church same thing I will actually be in New York City the week after that.

But again, it's primarily just for a particular church the next thing on the calendar really that is public will be speaking in Honolulu, Hawaii on the 12th 13th and 14th of April getting a chance to go back to Visit with Pastor Shane who had hosted me and my wife last year there in Hawaii.

And if you see on the website he's Sort of funny the the topics that are lined up here all branches of the same tree. So you've got same gospel same God same sex go back to previous Same book and same questions.

So Shane came up with same a Number of times there, but there's one of those the one on Saturday on on homosexuality I'm not sure that I could do that in in Canada and I'm not sure how long I'll be able to do that here in the United States to be perfectly honest with you.

Not without bringing the wrath of the governmental authorities down upon our heads but before I go into that and then at the beginning of May you folks up in Omaha, I'll be up there May 3rd 4th and 5th I believe yep.

In Omaha, Nebraska, and I'm doing a bunch of northern stuff in May because then on the 17th 18th and I think I actually come back on the 18th. But I'm not sure how far the crop dusters could be able to fly because squirrel says the crop duster has to find gas stations to be able to you know, you just bounce down the road fill it back up with petrol and Drone back again until we get to a big enough place as jet planes so I'm really not sure if I'm gonna be able to make make back by the 19th, but May 17th and 18th Reformation, Montana, which will include a dialogue with Justin Lee the author of torn on the subject of homosexuality and Christianity and that will be in May and Then Boston on the 14th and 15th of June and then Germany immediately after that and We go on from there.

Oh and looking at we haven't absolutely nailed this down, but it's 90 for those of you in Santa Fe July 8th through the 11th I will be back with my good friends there in Santa Fe New Mexico as well.

So lots and lots and lots and lots of stuff going on and I actually am scheduled into Canada in in October and I Not sure how that's gonna work be perfectly honest with you. I just wonder how long that's gonna be.

The Canadian Supreme Court and Biblical Speech on Homosexuality

That's gonna be available and you say what what am I referring to? I'm referring to a Supreme Court decision. I'm reading this from Christian news .net The Supreme Court of Canada and the date on this is yesterday.

So this is brand new the Supreme Court of Canada has ruled that biblical speech opposing homosexual behavior Including in written form is essentially a hate crime. On Wednesday. The court upheld the conviction of activist William Watcott or Watcott Not sure how you pronounce that who found himself in hot water after stripping flyers regarding the Bible's prohibitions against homosexuality throughout the Saskatoon and Regina neighborhoods in 2001 and 2002.