December 21, 2020 Show with Bill Shishko & Dr. James White

Live from the historic parsonage of the 19th century gospel minister George Norcross in downtown

Carlisle, Pennsylvania, it's Iron Sharpens Iron.

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another.

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have in view in conversation to make one another wiser and better.

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I think

you have bad weather back there on Long Island there right now

not

enough

homeschooled children in our church to uh field a few a few football teams

uh with uh with well actually many football teams.

And so tonight as soon as we're done here I'm setting up my telescopes setting up two telescopes because

uh human eye has never seen and

you

mentioned

issues

coming

down the

pike

about his truth and that will mean that we need to make the decision to look at the world

and when the

world

stands

against

Christ

who have 143

different

genders

that

isn't thinking

grid of is that in denominations that

only a few years ago I would have said that no it could it could

never

happen there.

I was naive

and uh

myself here back in the 1970s when they were called

inerrancy

in church

categories

and my

repentance James

was

life

again

have

uh I've

done a

lot of soul searching and so

we talk about marriage.

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churches

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overreach

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churches

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possibility

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Other side of the united states of

the gospel uh to

muslims i

think it might

be a

little

bit more folks

um that in islam you

have to once in life you get in islam.

But there is one sin that

cannot be forgiven that shirt and shirt is dying as an idolater.

Central affirmation in islam is called

tawhid.

Tawhid

with

the doctor.

I

just

want

to

remind

our

listeners

as

well

alpha

and

omega

ministries

what

to

watch for

there

are

numerous

videos

out

there

you

can

watch

academia

is

uh which he sort of has control over and uh

folks like michael kruger uh at reformed theological seminary

in charlotte

that

providing the mayor

barterman's popular work and the two are not necessarily who

read

justice.

I think

it's so obviously

relevant

of

what

he

will

allow

to

be viewed as a claim but but in

the in the academy you're not allowed to do that.

That's not allowed so the

academy uh and

barterman's

a very good example of this.

The academy begins with the

man's

mind

is

what is

the

idea

that

and

purpose

directly

from

his

own

and here

justify those beliefs and barterman

jews

rather

than for the

meaningful

uh very very strong

into the

ancient world of a

modernistic understanding of how you could understand how you could know that

historically 24 years we

don't have any mp3.

We didn't have mp3 then

so you don't have

any mp3 recordings of anything more than

20 years directly in that in that

format so modern massive

amounts of information that

you know the bible to anything else in history that have to admit we

don't know they

realize

they can't be that way

there

obviously

there was

history.

Alpha and omega ministries it's on youtube.

Yeah it's available to anybody.

Uh 2009 uh and there have

been

a

number of

debates uh

that

he's

done since that

side

and he

doesn't

really think

we are.

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Greetings in the matchless name of our lord jesus christ.

My name is banu gadi.

I'm a pharmacist in new york which is the epicenter of the latest crisis the world is going through.

In psalm 139 verse 14 the psalmist offers praise to the lord like this.

I praise you because i am fearfully and wonderfully made and wondrous.

Are your works that my soul knows very well.

He saw god's goodness and mercy kindness and the beauty in what god has

designed and he has erupted into praise in any crisis or problem.

Brothers and sisters our only fallback position is to trust god's design.

And once we do there is nothing for us to do but to erupt in praise to him when the

whole world is searching for a solution.

God in his infinite mercy has given us what we need to address this illness which can be pretty serious

such is the beauty of his design.

Knowing that design how can we not erupt in praise to our great god like the psalmist did.

May god bless you and give all of us wisdom.

To see greater things in his design.

Thank you

james white of alphanomega.

Ministries here if.

You've watched my dividing line webcast often enough.

You know i have a great love for getting bibles and other documents vital to my ministry rebound to

preserve and ensure their longevity.

And besides that they feel so good.

I'm so delighted i discovered post tenebrous lux bible rebinding.

No radio ad will be long enough to sing their praises sufficiently but i'll give it a shot.

Jeffrey rice of post tenebrous lux is a remarkably gifted craftsman and artisan.

All his work is done by hand from the cutting to the pleating of corners to the perimeter stitching.

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radio

and

find out

more

about

chris

arnzen

and

the power

of

enola first church of god.

And an iron

sharpens iron

sharpens of roman

catholicism.

Though i

never bought into all of their arguments i went through a very confusing theological

will be

god led me

to

our

children

cut their

faith new

religiosity

strongly

to

john

harris

chris

arnzen's

because

of life

whether

theological or social.

Have left.

Dr white you and i go

way

you're going.

You know if it were if i wasn't a reformed baptist and you weren't opc if like you were

pentecostal and i was some wild -eyed wesley arminian or something.

We spent this entire two hours telling chris arnzen stories uh much to his chagrin i'm sure.

In fact when you said you couldn't fill in for chris arnzen i said that's because you can't sing parody songs uh

with nearly the uh the adept uh uh capacity as uh as chris arnzen.

But yeah and i if i recall correctly he's the one that arranged um my

first visit uh

for a sunday afternoon lunch and if i recall correctly i think i

might have even gotten a nap uh that's that's sunday afternoon uh yes but a presbyterian

sabbath nap oh that's well not that's called a bathroom nap.

I'm sorry we uh we already uh we already have that one uh uh uh trademarked and stuff like that.

So oh yes i mean it was uh it was that infamous phone call that chris likes to tell

people about where uh he had been challenged to find someone to

uh nobody

really

knew

who.

Hi my

name

is

chris

new

yorker's

little

performance

of

party

hardy

marty

luther

and

uh

i i

actually

saw the first time that he did it so i'm one of the few people that can say that we were there.

And luther i can assure you that back and forth with thomas more

while

chris to live he wouldn't have had him kicked out of wittenberg

was dr dr james white would be what's called a reformed baptist and i'm a

presbyterian.

But that's an important statement uh because in our culture today where the issue is the

truth of the word of god and frankly what

the god or

the baptistic

resurgence

radio lively

white thanks so

much

for your

time today.

Take a few

minutes to tell us a little more about

alpha and omega ministries uh what you do and hopefully what you'll be doing in the year ahead.

We're actually not going to be

doing that uh i i would like to have five years

of faith

as it may.

Um i'm one of the

pastors at apology

mesa and so uh that certainly keeps one

of our members homes right now.

I'm going to be

running downstairs.

I've

got that work as well

in

any

right

there's

a

line

that

says

what's

reflector

and

uh

that's my

six

inch

and

my eight inch is

all this stuff.

I forget the uh the specific uh russian name uh right now um but it's um

uh fully computerized so it's quite a nice unit.

There's no no two ways about it.

Uh it'll do a good job.

Well dr white i'm glad that you've got uh clear skies to see that uh the conjunction of uh

i'll be tomorrow night for us.

Thanks so much dr white.

Give us please give us the name of your organization and the website one more time.

Yeah alvin.

Omega ministries a o m i n

a o

m i n dot

or we

want

iron.

So

we want

to

learn

about

the program

the

county

it.

Well

chris

arnson has always ended his program in a way that i love and i

came to our time with us.

Remember all.