Planned Parenthood Activist: Refuted

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to talk to you. You're you're just full of it. You're absolutely full of it. You know what? You're not.

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Why don't you just do something better with this than harass people who are just seeking medical care?

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Medical care for whom? Yes, for themselves. Because what about right to it? They are not doing anything illegal.

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You're just a perverted ma 'am slavery. Slavery was once legal as well. So that means we've kept it around.

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Oh, brother, you're just playing a tape. You're making absolutely no sense. And you should just go. No, ma 'am.

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Those are actually your arguments. Those aren't our arguments. You see, just because just because abortion safe space, just because abortion is legal, that doesn't make it moral.

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So that argument is completely fallacious. That's your business. You think it's wrong. That's your business.

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Don't get an abortion. But gee, guess what? You're a guy. I live down the street. You're too loud.

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Yeah. And by the way, you are breaking the law. No, this is disorderly conduct. You're too loud.

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Yes, it is. It is a city ordinance. This is really, really no position to be arguing about law when you stand for the death of children, dude, it's legal.

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So it was slavery. So was slavery. Oh, please. That's your argument. No, it's not. It was legal then. Was it okay?

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That's that's irrelevant. And no, it's exactly your argument. Your argument is if it's legal, it's okay.

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It's moral. No. So it's because there is nothing wrong with abortion. With slaughtering children?

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It's not slaughtering children. These are fetuses. It's not the same thing. Why are you speaking Latin? Fetus means a little small child.

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Oh, it doesn't. It does. Babies are born. Look at the etymology. And you know what? Don't even talk science.

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You just have this fundamentalist view that everybody should follow. And you know, you don't care about the rights of women.

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You don't care that this is just your moral view. I don't care about your own agenda.

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Just go to church. Why don't you serve the community and do something good? All you're doing is shouting. That's what we're doing right now.

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We're not shouting. You know what? You're not making a difference. Your voice is actually higher than mine. You are not making any bit of difference at all.

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Can I show you? You want to see Carmelo? He's alive today because of this work. Is that a difference? Would you like to see?

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No. And back to the science. Did you know that from the moment of conception, it has all the biological components of a human being?

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The only difference is size, level of development, environment, and degree of dependence. That's a fact.

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You really need to do your homework. Most pro -choice advocates today just say, yes, it's a human. Yes, it's a child, but we should still be able to kill it.

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Your argument is about 40 years too old. I think it's convenient that you're just a bunch of men over here standing like this.

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Ma 'am, why would you presume on what I identify as? Because in this day and age, you're going to presume that I'm a man just by looking at me?

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How do you know what I identify as? Because you're a Christian extremist and you're imposing your views onto other people.

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Ma 'am, you're doing that right now. Ma 'am, that's hypocrisy. You're here imposing your views upon me at the moment.

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No, I'm not. It's hypocrisy. You just did. You called me a religious extremist. Why are you out here if you're not pushing your views on people?

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No, we're trying to protect the people from harassment from people like you. Ma 'am, you came over here to us. That's Carmelo.

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You said we're doing no good. He's alive. He's alive today. He was moments away from death. Should he be dead? I don't know.

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I don't know anything about this person. I do not know anything about this story. I don't know anything about this person. I'll tell you the story.

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She was in pre -op. So you're trying to change the law for people. The father heard us and he went in and got her out.

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He'd be dead today if you had your way. Should he be dead? Hey, I was sleeping in this morning and you disturbed my peace.

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You should be more concerned that those babies being murdered than whether or not you were asleep. If you want to get something that tests the decibel level, you can.

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This is Carmelo. Should he be dead? You know, that's not even a relevant argument.

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It's very relevant. It's what's happening today. It is not because I can point out many cases, many cases where women are victims of incest or they're victims of rape or their fetuses are killing them.

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They're a little child. Or they can't, you know, you keep correcting me with that and that doesn't mean anything. That's what the word means.

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No, let me tell you this. That does not mean anything to me. Okay. The word. So just cut it off because it's irrelevant.

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Definitions don't matter. It matters in that the sense that what you're describing as this, this thing is not, okay, it's not a baby.

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It's a baby by definition after it's born. When the baby, when the child can live separate from the mother, when the, when the child is a fetus, it's part of the mother.

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It requires the mother's body to survive. Of course.

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That's how you came into the world too. Yes. And when that separation occurs, that's when it becomes a baby. So we should be able to slaughter a child based upon where it's located.

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So your argument is location. In the book of Psalms, they actually did do infanticide.

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I'm sorry? Yes, they did. Where? In, I can look it up for you, but they talk about blessed be the man who smashes the stones against the rocks.

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That was an impregnatory passage about the enemies of God had been slaughtering the

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Israelites children by doing just that. And so it was essentially an impregnatory Psalm basically saying justice should be done to them and let it be done to them in war, which was done to us, the

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Israelites. You really should do context and understand the meaning of the passage in the history.

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I used to be a Sunday school teacher. Okay. So I know some Bible passages. I'm not a pro.

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I'm not a scholar. I'll give you that. Can I just play one thing, one question I have for you? Obviously you know a lot more about the Bible than I do.

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You brought up rape. What? You brought up rape. What's wrong with rape? It's okay.

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I see where you're going with this. I know what you're saying. It's like you're forcing your will onto somebody else and here's the defenseless child whose will, and it's not the same thing.

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How is it not the same thing? Because it is, it is a fetus. A baby. Okay, here we go again.

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We're talking in circles. All right. But let me tell you this, you stand here and you're saying, get in your safe space and all this stuff.

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Like we're not willing to engage. Yes, we are. But your arguments, you're like talking on a loop. Do you notice that we've been challenging your position and every time we do, you just change the subject or say, we're not going to talk about it any longer.

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No, I'm talking about your definitions. And when you're talking about, this is a fetus and this is a baby.

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Fetus means small child. Yeah. And you keep saying that. And this is a fact. It's not a fact. Research the etymology of the word.

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It's not a scientific, is it a medical fact? No, we're talking about words.

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Words would be the word itself. See, you're, you're so frustrating to talk to because you are insisting on these words and these definitions.

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It's not true. It's your truth. Would you research the etymology of the word before you say that it's not that? It doesn't even make a difference.

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It does. Because scientifically and medically, we know what the definition is. Yes. And that's what's important.

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And you're going by your own definition and your own interpretation of science, which is very biased.

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Ma 'am, ma 'am, could you do some research on the moment of conception? You would see that a fertilized egg, the fertilized egg at the moment of conception has its own

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DNA and contraception is also a form of murder. I believe any birth control that kills a baby is murder.

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Yes. So the birth control pill is murder in your definition. Any pill that actually ends the life of a human being would be malice of forethought.

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Do you realize how irrational you're saying? Do you have any clue at all? No, ma 'am. Have you noticed that you're, listen, you're claiming something's irrational.

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It doesn't make it irrational. But here's the thing. This is legal. And don't, you're going to go to the slavery argument.

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You have an answer. You have brought up no response. No, because, because the slavery argument is not relevant.

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Was it legal to kill Jews? At some point, it doesn't. No, no, no. Your point is irrelevant.

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It's completely relevant. You're saying it's irrelevant, ma 'am. Doesn't make it irrelevant. The reason why it's legal is because it's, it's the right thing to do.

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According to, according to probably the majority of people on this planet.

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That's the same argument for slavery. They said, well, it's legal and it's right for most of us. We have slaves. I don't think I want to get into a slavery argument with I know you don't.

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No, because it's called a reductio. Oh, whatever. Are you reducing to absurdity?

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Your arguments are reducing to absurdity. Ma 'am, can you just try to answer that? What? Well, at the time of slavery in the

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United States, slave owners said, look, it's on my property. I have the right to define what's a person or property on my property.

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Because they are fully formed human beings with a conscience and with a will. And they were okay.

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And you're, and see, this is, this is the thing. So this is why I don't want to talk to you because, because you're, you're trying to make these false equivalencies and they're not valid.

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And the thing is, you're going to keep going there. So that's why I'm done. I'm walking away because your argument is irrelevant and it's ignorant and it's extremely biased.

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So you know what, I'm wasting my time. Of course you are. Now you're walking away. It's a typical, typical MO of a

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Planned Parenthood supporter, ma 'am. Because you're playing a loop and you haven't rehearsed this many, many times. Ma 'am, I'm, I'm addressing your argumentation.

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No, you're not. I would encourage you, I would encourage you to think, you mentioned a moment ago that you were a Sunday school teacher.

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I was. Okay. So you're no longer a professing Christian. No, I'm not. So I want to encourage you to consider that your faith in the past, the fact that you've left now,

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I just want to share with you the gospel.

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I have read the gospel. Christ is God and he lived a life that was sinless and he died for sinners and rose from the dead.

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That's what you believe. That's what he said. That is what he said according to a book that you live by.

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Well, the entire scripture. And I do not live by that book. I know you don't, that's obvious. But the

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Bible teaches that all of us are sinners. We're not better than you. We're sinners. Well, you sure act like you are. We're not. The way you scream at people.

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Would you scream at a man beating his wife? No, I would pull him away. I would call the cops. You would try to stop him.

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Yes, of course. Right. That's what we're doing. All right. God bless you.