Matt Slick - What political party would the Antichrist belong to?
Matt Slick will join Apologetics Live to discuss his article on CARM.org on what political party the Antichrist belongs to.
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Was Andrew the one that helped you get the podcast back up?
Yeah, he did get the podcast.
He didn't help me.
He didn't don't don't you think you owe him a dinner for that?
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Mr. Matt slick from karma .org.
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It's good to be back together again Matt.
Maybe for you.
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Karma stands for Christian apologetics research ministry.
I think you originally had a different name for that, right?
Weren't you gonna call it something else?
Yeah.
Christian research apologetics people.
But I guess I guess that acronym crap doesn't really work, yeah.
We're gonna do you know, like Christian research apologetic ministry, but it'd be cram, you know, we had a couple.
I just Perfectly honest here.
I had no clue what to call it.
And the only reason I called it that was because the reason I started karm Was simply because I
got tired of writing this team answer out to people in different discussion areas.
That was it.
I'll make this thing called a web page.
And what am I gonna call it?
I don't know.
I'm making this up.
Okay, good, that's it and it took off and so that's why we're.
You know.
Talking to the history of that folks may not know how we came up with striving for eternity.
Originally, my plan was to call the ministry eternal perspectives
because that was the the thinking of it was that we should have an eternal perspective on life and
I was going.
I had the paperwork all filled out ready to hand in for Monday morning and.
I.
Went to a pro -life conference for crisis pregnancy centers,
and I met Randy Alcorn of eternal perspectives ministries.
Realized oops, I can't call it that because there's already an eternal perspectives ministry
so I had to quickly realize that the paperwork had to be changed and
therefore I Was like, what do I call it now?
And I had been signing my emails striving for eternity, so that's
that's what I ended up doing.
That's how the name ended up.
But I'm not striving for it.
I already have it.
Yeah.
Well, that's why you should go to it because this is for believers.
It's not an evangelist for believers.
See first John 5 13.
These things are written.
So you may know you have.
Yeah, eternal life.
Yeah.
Got it.
It's actually more out of Colossians 3 that we should, you know have eternity, you know
having eternity, you know in our minds above all things, but The specifically the the verse
2 which says set your mind on things above and not on things of earth.
But it's it's really if you think of the quote John Edwards is most known
for the quote, but it's not actually originally with original with him.
I had.
Had.
Did some research figure out who originally it was with but I don't know I don't remember the name anymore.
But it's but it's that you should have eternity stamped on the inners of your eyelids so that when you close your eyes It's
eternity that you see.
That's a long way for a bad kind of it, yeah, but that's a kind of stuff I would do so.
But it's it's a good thinking.
It's so you have an article that you recently came out and I I was like.
That is interesting.
Let's let's see if we could discuss that and I should I should mention that Last week.
I did get some folks who last week we talked about the assassination attempt on Donald Trump's life
we got a lot of feedback a lot of people thought that was very good very helpful the Balanced approach that Chris
Han holds and I had with that I think that a lot of people
appreciated that.
Appreciated some of the insight that with Chris's background in law enforcement my background
with the federal government provided some some good insights for people and.
One thing that we got response that someone thought that we didn't handle.
Well was the fact that people thought that we did not address that
Donald Trump's turning of the head was a divine
Miracle and so Figured let me let me address that.
To be clear on it.
I don't think it was a divine miracle.
I don't think it was a miracle because God didn't do anything supernatural in that instance.
What God did was what could happen at him?
We all turn our heads all the time.
Look Matt just did it.
That wasn't supernatural, right?
So.
It was you know, a divine intervention intervention a lot of people are saying well I don't know that it was
divine intervention either.
It was what I would put in the theological category of Providence and
There is divine providence, but divine providence is not miraculous divine.
Providence is not Out of the ordinary.
It's the way God works with his creation.
He God holds every single atom in its place.
You can you can look at Colossians chapter 1 on that 15 to 17 but Everything's
held in place by God by Christ.
So in a sense you if you want to say that then everything that happens is is divine intervention.
Because you know, why did God want Trump to be alive?
Yes.
How do I know that.
Because Trump's alive?
It's really that simple.
So.
The the thing that we're looking at is was it something supernatural?
Was it miraculous?
Was it God intervening?
I don't think so.
It was God doing what he does in his Providence.
Matt I don't know if you have any any thoughts about the the.
You know I'm looking at the comments that I just your comment, you know, I did see that
Andrew from Australia says Matt owes Andrew too many dinners lol and I guess you decided to respond
with.
Which was very true.
I got Andrew great on with the dinner on the hundredth show and folks if you haven't
watched this is like episode 252 I think but go back to episode 100
Where we had a whole bunch of apologists in and Matt got me back for buying him too many dinners and it was
epic.
He's always beaten me it's ridiculous.
And then.
The last time we were in Salt Lake just a few weeks ago.
In Spanish, I'm telling the people restaurant is telling don't let him pay blah blah blah and I give the card.
I go to get some ice.
He steals my card and.
You you walked around the corner to use the restroom.
What you couldn't see was what I did was I turned to the lady and I pointed up to the the menu that they have All the
pictures so she would turn and look and as she turned I reached over just grabbed your card.
Which you went to Bay there was no card there anymore.
So I just gave her mine and she's looking.
I went.
I held it up.
And as I'm holding it up to her you walk around the corner, so I just turned.
Yeah, it's okay, but I got you good on the hundred so you did.
Yeah, that was epic.
It was really good.
So so any any thoughts you had.
I actually haven't heard if you you spoke any on the assassination attempt of Trump.
No people have asked me if it was a miracle or not.
I say there's no way to know.
It could have been that God did something.
It could be that God didn't do something in his Providence.
You can set it up how we define as a miracle.
Who knows?
Did God cause?
Thought in his brain to move and he turned his head possible.
Did God cause something to happen?
Who knows but Maybe just just one of those things and God's Providence and that
was it.
So I think I think and I'll just pose this to you and see what your thought is.
I think that when we see miracles at least in Scripture Everybody knows it's an act of
God that it's miraculous.
There's not a question of is that a miracle?
Is that not a miracle?
So extrapolating from that.
I assume that if God does something miraculous everyone's gonna look at and go that's a miracle.
America would have been like he's sitting there and Five shots into his chest and all of them just
stop right at his chest fall down and he's got no vest on.
That would have been a miracle.
Yeah, that's a miracle, but Just turning your head at the right time I mean how many times that we've done something in
life where we miss something because we look left look right accelerated decelerated.
You know, it's just whatever and I just say well All in God's Providence.
Let's move on.
That's all correct.
And that's why I think it is important for us to have proper categories for theology because
We don't want to.
This is on you emphasize at calm org.
The precision in theology is important.
I mean how many I'm waiting for you to get precise I am I'm just waiting for you to.
You'll get there eventually in eternity.
But oh, thank you I mean look even RC Spole agrees with me today.
What do you say.
Well because he's now in heaven so all his theology is corrected so he agrees.
Yes, the pride part is still there too, but that's okay.
You're the one that's very proud of your humility.
That's Bill McKeever said that.
From Bill McKeever.
Something else.
Bill McKeever is with Mormon Research Ministries and so.
So, yeah, so let's let's get into the discussion here folks who are watching.
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Let others know especially if you get some value out of this now Matt.
This is your your screen up here.
So this is the article one.
Just go to the top of it quickly.
So people can see that the full title and this is what we're gonna refer to is and this is an article Matt put out.
What political party with the Antichrist Belong to.
And and first I want to ask you what made you think of this as a article.
To be honest, I don't know.
I don't know.
I'm serious.
I was talking to some people about stuff.
Whatever.
I don't like a Democratic Party and I think we're talking about Democratic Party, you know, it's bad bad bad, you know.
It is and I.
It's.
The Antichrist, what party would he.
So I that's what I think that would happen.
And then I wrote it and it's been well -received so far, but actually Joanne
she works with me.
She said something about I could scroll up it got banned.
Warned or something like that on a really on one of the social media probably Facebook.
It was Facebook, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised even Andrew from down under in Australia.
He says the Antichrist would belong to the demon cratic.
Party.
So even down under they understand our politics well.
Yeah, better than we do apparently.
Yeah, you know, so I don't see what it was.
Yeah, but I think it was Facebook.
Anyway, yeah, well X has been a lot better for.
You know for sharing news for sharing things without it getting censored.
I find it very interesting that Joe Biden.
Well, whoever whoever announced Joe Biden's retirement from from
the election.
I.
Would I'd hate that.
I'd love to have seen what it was like actually.
When Joe Biden woke up in the morning and found out he resigned.
Yeah.
Yeah surprise interesting.
They did it on X.
Right, they didn't go to one of their you know more supportive platforms, but.
So so if we look at this article In examining it, what would
be.
What was?
What were the basis of what party you think that could be and why.
Which one and why.
Well?
You know, I've studied the Antichrist before and I've you know I go into discord a lot and I have
discussions with people and I like to go into the rooms where the atheists are and Sometimes I'll go into rooms that are trans this
trans that LGBTQ this or that Sector politics.
I'll go in and just listen and because they know who I am.
A lot of times.
I'll just start asking me questions and So I was nodding on the Democratic Party a while back
and reading some of the stuff from the history of the Democratic Party.
Which is an article I wrote a long time ago Back in 22 and
So I have like the history of it, which you know, you go through some of this stuff, but it's the party of
slavery Jim Crow laws abortion homosexuality socialism Etc.
Etc.
It is a I'm going to say it's a piece of crap denominate not a nomination but
Political party and and I say that my radio show I don't think that any true Christian
who knows his faith and knows that Democratic Party states.
But it can be a Democrat.
It cannot be you.
I don't understand how that's possible.
Because it is it is an Antichrist Party, I think
the discussion that's what I it hit me write an article on what the Antichrist would be.
And so.
Make it a little bit larger there.
That's all right.
And so if you scroll down what I did was I went to the policies of the Antichrist and
You know image that you created for it too, yeah, I did that in them.
Yeah with AI inside of discord, but it's really pro LGBTQ
because Apparently, it's gonna be homosexual because it says in Daniel 1137 He will show no regard for the
gods of his father or for the desire of women.
Well, okay, then that means he's going to be pro homosexual.
He's going to be pro LGBTQ.
It's not a stretch to say that.
So.
Abortion.
All right.
Well the Antichrist activity will be in accord with Satan second Thessalonians 2 nines.
Right there.
That's what the Bible says and Jesus said in John 8 44 That Satan's a murderer from the beginning.
Well, simple logic if a equals B and B will see an a equals C.
So Since he will have no desire of the gods of his father.
And.
To be homosexual he's all that's against scripture.
His Arrival be in the accordance with Satan who was a murderer.
So he's going to be pro abortion.
He's going to want to kill The babies.
It's just that's what Democratic Party does.
In fact a few nights ago, I'd really get animated when I'm talking to people about abortion.
I it's one of the things I just lose my cool kind of over.
I call them womb scrapers baby killers.
Oh, I just attack them.
I say no man should be able to be like this.
You guys get your get your Get your pleasure make the woman pay for it.
They kill the baby.
I talk to the women in the rooms.
I say and you just kill your babies and you want to say it's just it's not human.
I just go.
I go into.
I really do and and nevertheless, so the Antichrist he's going to be a
man of death and abortion is the ultimate death of the so to speak innocent and
It's done by the hands of the evil people.
So there's that and then also He's gonna support a one -world government.
Before we get to that, you know when we think about abortion and a lot of people don't think about this.
People are against slavery and yet, they're for abortion and
Abortion is there's no fundamentally no difference between saying this is my property and
this is my body.
Both of them are ownership issues.
And when you did your debate with David Smalley, I'll play a clip from that debate that
when I asked my question because The whole debate you had on David Smalley he was addressing the issue
that.
You know slavery is wrong.
Slavery is in the Bible that makes it immoral and.
And and that was your debate.
What was whether you know The the God of the Bible could exist and is moral, right?
And and so I ended up asking him one question.
And because if you remember that you went you debated David Smalley one night and Matt Delhunty the next night.
So I've always said you're nuts.
You do two different debates two different people.
Like what were you thinking?
Yeah, um, well it wasn't so easy with Matt Delhunty if you remember you suddenly
just.
Just you were there.
Yeah just before Matt.
When Matt Delhunty gets up to start his opening you suddenly looked at me and you're like I'm feeling sick.
This was outside you remember it was outside.
I just told someone this recently Yeah, we're outside and all of a sudden I started getting super sleepy and I
mean Sleepy so sleepy that if I'd have put my head down on the pavement, but I laid down I'd have been out in
two three four seconds.
I was having so much trouble staying awake.
I couldn't believe it.
I remember that so clearly someone got me a cup of coffee someone this it prayed a whole bit I'm just looking like I don't know what
happened.
It was like it was a chemical problem on my body.
I've never had to happen before since and then when we got in there because we all prayed.
We got in there and I'm at the back table and and Delhunty went up.
He's speaking first.
I had my laptop.
I still remember this.
I remember thinking do not close your eyes and lay your head down.
You'll be out and I remember so clearly just focusing.
Oh, what am I gonna do?
How's it gonna be?
So finally for 20 minutes, he's he's there and I'm just oh I could go to sleep.
I started walking up and by the time I got to the stage.
I was wide awake.
Yeah, and and you were sitting there was a guy that tried coming out.
You're you're trying to focus and Pay attention when Matt's saying in his in his
opening because you got to give a response in in the rebuttal.
And you're just sitting there showing there was some guy that wanted to come talk to you and I'm like I was playing bouncer then because I was just like I.
Just basically what the guy that an atheist wants to come talk to you and I just stopped him like look, dude.
He's paying he's got to pay attention that you know this is part of the debate just.
You know.
But you didn't want to go up there and sit up there because you were just like item.
I'm not something's weird wrong.
Well, we we had met these guys before and talked to them and I remember talking to Dave.
They'll hunty because most of his argument was gonna be on.
You know the issue of slavery and I asked this question of Dave Mr. Smalley, do you believe that abortion is
moral?
Oh boy.
And the reason he had that reaction was because he knew that abortion was a slavery issue.
We already talked about it before the debate his whole argument to you Matt was God's not moral.
But if he agrees to abortion if he says that like he wants to say that's not a moral issue.
If he says God is not moral then he has no moral standing by what you can say God is or is not right or.
Plus he has to have a universal standard of morality by which you can then judge whether God is right or wrong.
Third there's an issue of slavery in the Bible that he's not aware of.
There is no equivalent to chattel slavery in the Old Testament.
It's all kind of stuff.
Yeah, and.
Yeah, so when we talk about Abortion which is one of the issues you have here.
Remember this is also a form of slavery as well.
So when when the world wants to talk about you know With the Antichrist be more supportive of slavery
or not.
If you're supportive of abortion then you are you are Agreeing to the underlying
argument for slavery.
It's an ownership issue of another human being.
Don't forget he's gonna be a politically savvy gentleman.
So what will happen is he probably will pick the politically correct view in a lot of areas so he'll probably publicly
say slavery is wrong and Stuff like that.
He'll probably do that.
But you know in his heart, he's a liar and a deceiver.
So we'll just say, you know when he comes around.
How do you know a guy.
Maybe maybe it's a woman.
Yeah, that would be interesting.
But if that's the case and the Bible would say it's male Then but it said it wouldn't have any regard for women.
So it's got to be a male figure and I believe the reason is because the Antichrist is going to imitate Christ.
The Antichrist will imitate the true Jesus because Jesus was killed and rose.
Well, there's going to be a type of death and resurrection of the Antichrist.
He's gonna be wounded his right eye right arm will be withered that symbolizes his right the right side
and Is the side of salvation left his judgment?
So the right side is withered which means he has none.
He has no good judgment.
He has no good strength.
He's evil.
That's why it's gone from him.
That's what the symbolism is there but.
Anyway, yeah, so he's gonna want to one -world government and which
political party do you know of.
Supports one -world governments.
It's let's see.
Which one is they made the claim that that was what George W Bush was trying to do.
He was part of a group in the skull and bones.
That's what they were saying.
Oh, he's trying to.
He's gonna be part of the one -world government.
He did talk about Things that they would use to say see see see he's part of one world government.
Maybe yes.
Well, I don't.
You know, I don't.
He's not the end of Christ.
Yeah, I'm not a Republican or Democrat.
I think the Democrats on the scale from 1 to 10 10 being crap.
They're at a 10 and the Democrat.
I mean the Republicans are probably at a 5 or 6.
You know, I look I like how damn damn Bon Jovi says it if you ever listen to him.
He says, you know, the Republicans are not the solution to all your problems.
But the Democrats are the cause of all your problem.
Yeah, that's a good way to put it not the solution to but the Democrats are the cause.
The Democratic Party is socialistic communistic Marxist Oppressives and it wants to
confiscate people.
It wants to censor them.
It wants to force Morality on people according to their views homosexuality the alphabet mob.
It wants to have compliance and want to get rid of our weapons so that they can be in control.
This is the demonic movement.
It is demonic.
So what scriptures we look at that supports that the Antichrist would support a one -world government?
Well, it's right there.
Because it says Revelation 13 7 is given to him to make war on the Saints with the Saints and overcome them.
That's a whole nother topic and authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation was given to him.
And then he provides it no one be able to buy or sell except those who receive the mark of his name.
So in Revelation 13 7 and 17.
That's where the one -world government comes in and we know that the Democratic Party a piece of crap
Democratic Party.
They wanted one world government issue.
They you know open their borders.
Let everybody come in.
They don't need a national language we don't need to have submit themselves to
The United Nations let the United Nations Court be the ones in control of us selling our land to
foreign powers.
And things like this.
This is going on a Democratic Party.
In fact, I've said it over the radio many times I believe the Democratic Party can be likened to a terrorist organization.
Seriously, it is Bad, it is bad.
I don't see how any Christian can know knowingly know the Democratic Party stands for and
Also be a Christian.
I don't see how those could be consistent.
You know, it's very interesting if I'm finding that if I was to post something that's true about Kamala
Harris like the fact that I posted recently, you know the question of how
do you have someone that's Jamaican plus Indian equals African
American and the response from professing Christians is Well JD
Vance is you know, and I'm like wait.
What's that what anything to do with JD Vance like they were like well JD Vance was an atheist who suddenly becomes Catholic
who's married To someone who was Hindu and wants to raise the children.
Can do it nothing do it.
Yeah, it's Kamala, right?
It's like well, okay.
So what like, you know, it's it's like they can't see these are professing Christians.
They can't see you post anything about the Democrats without bashing the Republicans and
I'm like what makes a Christian like Is is there some untrue about what
what I posted about Kamala Harris?
And actually if we get time at the end Matt I saved some hate mail because I figured on Fridays on if you listen
to Matt slick live on the radio or in his Podcast which is part of the Christian podcast community on
Fridays.
He usually does hate mail and kind of rates him whether they're good or bad.
So I I kind of saved up some hate mail and I will see it.
We'll see whether the hate me are as good in their hate mail as We
could have some fun with that so hate mail is great.
So he's gonna support a one -world government you also provided Revelation 13
17 so 137 and 1317 to support your
garden.
How would 17 support it?
Well, you can't buy or sell unless you're under his authority.
That means everywhere because all people are all the nations.
Every tribe people tongue and nation was given to him.
So inside of that governmental control There's going to be a policy of submission to him.
It's a form of pseudo worship.
That's what it ultimately is, but you really can't put that in there.
I could have but you know, I could make a comment.
It's a form of pseudo worship where he is an absolute control.
This is what the Democrats want to.
Democrats want to be in control because they're more knowledgeable.
They're wiser.
They're better at morals and understanding than you are.
So they need to tell you what to do.
This is the arrogance of the Democratic Party and the Antichrist would fit right in there.
I'm not saying he'll be a Democrat.
He might be a Republican for all I know.
Because it's a Democratic Party is bad and the Republican Party is going bad.
Or he might create a third party or might be some somebody from Europe who knows, you know, we don't know.
So yeah, I wouldn't I actually wouldn't assume he's gonna be in the States.
I I would actually assume he's somewhere from well I would make a case that at least the the
the prince who is to come.
Maybe not the Antichrist is gonna be from Rome because it says in Daniel he who destroyed Rome that's where
the the Antichrist will come from but I think that when we
we think about what you were just saying as far as the buying the selling and that they're wanting to control I
Want you to think about because some folks may not think this through you look at what happened during kovat.
During kovat you had a president Donald Trump who was letting states decide what
to do so he allowed the states to decide whether they are closed or open and.
The media and the Democrats were trying to push Trump to make it to do something as at a federal level.
Which the moment he did that they would have accused him of being a dictator.
I Mean they they're so they're accusing of wanting to be a dictator now.
Even though he allowed states to make decisions when he was in office.
When there was pressure to take complete control.
He left office which they said he's never gonna let happen again.
He did it before why wouldn't he like if he did it before when he thought they stole the election, why would he
You know not leave office when he knows his term limits are over right but look at what the Democrats are
doing right now.
They they just said there's one branch of government that they are having a great difficulty now controlling and that's
the Supreme Court.
They had control of it for years and now due to Trump they lost that.
And what are they doing.
They want to change the structure of the of the court why.
Because they want control of the court you now have a presidential candidate
who no one voted for.
They could have allowed for a primary in the Democrat Party.
They didn't that in fact what they did was they they moved the the
The DNC their convention to where now it affects
The whether they can get votes in Ohio, so what are they doing.
They're voting right now today.
I don't know if you even knew that Matt, but the Democrats are voting virtually Today to vote Kamala
Harris in as the candidate so that she's the candidate in time for the ballots in Ohio.
But here's the thing.
Nobody actually voted for her in the primaries.
They could have had a primary because they had two different people that were running Robert
Kennedy jr. Who they used political means to prevent him from being able to be put
on any ballots in the primaries and he now decided to run as an independent and.
Then another guy that they didn't allow to have any and they're trying to make sure that Robert Kennedy jr Doesn't get
into any of the the debates or anything like that.
And so they could have allowed primaries to give a different option than Joe Biden.
They didn't.
So they say they're the party of democracy and that if you vote for Trump, you're ending democracy and yet
they're the ones that want to Select a candidate the the their elites
not the voters not the Americans.
They handpick Kamala Harris to put her in.
They're not allowing a primary.
They're not allowing they could go to their convention and allow for the convention to vote
that there that's how it should be if It's called a contested Convention and that
is in the rules.
But they're not allowing the vote right?
So so as Matt was saying when they want control.
Well, which party is trying to get control?
You know, you have a party that is completely trying to control this election trying to arrest, you know.
They tried to bankrupt their opponent arrest their opponent.
You put him in in jail there will still see if that's gonna be what they're gonna do and
the and The other side is not doing any of that so I just want to say when we look at
the other the argument of one world government, I Think that Matt has a good argument to be made there that
which party that is.
Yeah.
Could be the Democratic Party plus which party uses deception.
Well, they would say they would say the Republican Party, yeah, they're liars the Democratic Party is a bunch of friggin
so.
Yeah, you would I really want I want to be able to have a show on What was it?
What's the satellite network and do that?
You can say anything you want.
Have a show there and say I'm not pulling punches here.
No, no censorship.
Yeah.
No, no no censorship and I would say stuff I would and I got things I was gonna say about them and
They're friggin pieces of crap and the Democratic Party needs to be investigated for being terrorist organization but
their filthy grubby hands are fought far too entrenched in the CIA the the the
IRS and the all three branches of the government FBI.
That's right.
And so they're the filth and the liars are there and I'm gonna tell you the reason that this is happening is I
believe it ultimately is because The Christians aren't doing their job.
The Christians aren't doing they're supposed to be doing and I just released an article today.
And we talked about on the radio on the on the nature of the rapture and stuff like this but one of the sub points in there is
That if those days be not cut short No flesh would be left.
Now I personally believe this.
I believe in Genesis 2 17 when God said to Adam the day that you eat of the fruit.
You're gonna die.
I believe he's speaking not only to Adam but to all people and I believe that the fruit of the sin of
mankind in rebellion to God will be self -destruction wages the sin is death.
Romans 6 23, I believe this my opinion that Mankind will bring itself to the point of
self -destruction nukes plagues, whatever it'll be and it's the last minute.
So -to -speak Jesus come back for a gigantic celestial.
I told you so well in the meantime The Christians are here and I'm an
amillennialist and I believe that the kingdom of God is now and we can discuss this another time.
It's validity or not, but here's a point in Matthew 13 Jesus says allow both
the tares and the wheat to go to grow together and he says the first ones taken Are the
wicked and in verse 40 he said in 41 He says that
they'll take him out of his kingdom.
Now that's a really significant thing because when you go to Matthew 16 18, the gates of hell will not prevail against a church.
Christians when they see gates they run from them.
Oh look the gates are gonna get us the gates don't do anything.
This means that we have to be aggressive politely biblically.
But we got to be aggressive and knock those gates down and if we are in the kingdom of God now people say well Why isn't everything
working?
So well because we're not doing our job.
Christians aren't doing their job.
And so because of this and second Thessalonians 2 Paul talks about the apostasy that's going to come
first before the Antichrist comes the apostasy means a Christian church has got to fall Away, well that makes sense
because the Christian Church as a whole the elect will be okay but as a whole that means that the people are gonna start believing
crap like hey, I can become God or Morality is what I want it to be or submit to the state instead of
submit to God all kinds of issues that cause us in Christianity to become complacent
and weak and I believe that we're supposed to be out there doing Our job and getting in people's faces politely
lovingly but getting in their faces saying this is what the truth is.
We need to be doing it all the time because this is the kingdom of Christ right now.
And the political movement that's coming is because of the apathy and the weakness of the Christian Church, which is largely is
too Busy worrying but it's comfort than the glory of God.
And this is why I think all this is gonna happen this way.
That's just a side note.
That's what I believe.
That's why I teach what's called.
Deprescotology.
Yeah, and You know, so so as we we look at the article if we go back to the article you
the Point for that you have here.
He will find science with policies.
Now we know that this happened with cook over it and people were wearing masks.
I wore masks the first week or two or three because we didn't know no one knew what was going on and
The plague the what was it 1904 eight six, whatever it was where
millions of people died.
The influenza pandemic that went around.
Okay, so after a while the Spanish flu.
Wow, I started figuring out wait a minute.
Well, then we got to wear masks and I wrote I don't 30 articles 20 or 30 articles on kovat and did research.
I found out stuff about the masks.
It's a joke.
Absolutely was a joke to wear masks they actually made things work worse.
Excuse me, but people they just submitted to it.
They just did whatever they were told and if people's eyes are on the government and
Their next meal their next paycheck instead of Jesus Christ.
They'll do what they're told.
And so he's gonna force compliance.
He provides that no one will be able to buy or sell except the one who has the mark.
Now what's this gonna mean for those Christians who are around at the time?
Whatever your view is That's gonna be hell.
You can't buy you can't sell it's gonna be out digging through garbage sleeping in forests under cars
who knows where you're gonna be sleeping and so it's gonna be bad and plus
there's a I Said, you know, I can really expand it a lot more the article.
But there's actually more scripture talks about those who destroy the Christians or think that they're gonna be serving God.
Yes, so there's gonna be even more mayhem coming.
And this was an article on what's the political party reference?
So I didn't do everything.
But here's something else.
Jesus said Luke 22 36.
He said by a sword.
Okay, so we have the right of self -defense.
I thought about trying to weasel into the text someplace something where he would for
he would cause us not to build to to Defend ourselves not to have weapons and I
didn't want to make the scripture say something.
He doesn't say and I couldn't find anything that says or implies that the Antichrist will then
want us to give up our weapons.
But we could make the case that that would be the case if he wants compliance with his
policies.
Those with weapons won't want to do that if they're godly so it would make sense
that a If we could suggest that he will strongly Want to remove our weapons
which party don't want to do that Democratic Party.
Which gets us back to the Supreme Court because they just passed a you know, they just ruled
in the Bruin case.
Which basically says hey a lot of the laws that they were trying to do to control for gun control I've just been tossed out the window.
And they you know the rules, you know having pistol braces finally is tossed out the window and things like that.
So.
Yep.
Yeah, that affected a lot of people but the pistol braces I know about that, you know.
Because Andrew, you know who Andrew is he keeps up on this all the time.
He lets me know but the the enemy wants to control because the enemy doesn't give
freedom the enemy brings slavery and The Slavery Party is a Democratic
Party.
It was founded on one of the principles was to to promote and
instantiate slavery into society and so.
They want control they want power and anybody who's a Christian I do not see how you could be a Democrat.
I do not see it.
That's a problem.
Yeah.
So the number five that you have here is uses deception.
You you kind of mentioned this already.
But maybe we can look at the scriptures that you provide for that.
Yeah.
Well, the second Thessalonians 2 9, you know, he's coming is with the accord of Satan with all powered signs and
false wonders that's deception and Second John 7 says the Antichrist is you know, it's out
already there.
He's the deceiver in the Antichrist.
So Deception this is a theological point because God is truth.
The Antichrist will be liar.
So what God stands for the Antichrist is going to work against in Christianity.
Government is supposed to be and I have an article on a biblical government.
We can go to that too.
That's a biblical form of government.
I did research on that and found it but it's right in the scripture but in Christianity God wants to
give you freedom and responsibility and Culpability for your actions you're
responsible for your actions.
But in the in the Democratic Party and socialism they take all that away and they tell you what you're
responsible for.
They're the ones that they are the party of slavery.
They want control.
They don't want us to have our freedom.
They don't want us to be able to defend ourselves.
They want to provide that defense for us on their terms their way.
In fact, because I know you know, you do martial arts.
I did martial arts for years and and I carry a weapon when I go out and
You know one of the fears I have Because I've been swatted people know who I am my address
all this kind of stuff one of the fears I have is someone comes into my house and.
And.
You know, I've got weapons in the house and May it never be I never wanted to this I never want to do this
but what if I shoot such a person and kill a person in my house because they're attacking my wife or
Threatening me and I shoot them.
I'm gonna be in trouble because if a Democratic Party is in control You're guilty Matt because you didn't
let him come into your house and rob you.
You know, this is the kind of mentality that they have and I'm fearful because if the Democratic Party gets
in control I'm fearful that I'm gonna be jailed because I'm very outspoken against a Democratic Party against the
Biden crime family against homosexuality LGBT Mafia against all this kind of
crap abortion and things like this.
And so my wife and I every now that we talk about it, you know.
You've been at my house many times and you know, it's just to be knocking the door, you know.
Are you Matt slick?
Why do you want to know?
We're placing you under arrest.
What for for what you said about blah blah blah.
And this is what is coming to the Democratic Party would justify such things because they call it hate speech.
Hate speech isn't really defined but hate speech is An amorphous kind of a thing you're just guilty of because
they say you're guilty and then you're the one.
Before being tried you're found guilty and this is control.
It's lying deception.
Democratic Party is a terrorist organization.
Think about what they're doing right now where they're.
They're taking people and arresting people for being outside an abortion clinic and
It's so interesting that they are at like a 70 year old grandmother is in jail for two years
because she was outside an abortion clinic and.
They had volunteers for the clinic That were actually blocking the door.
They have video showing they were blocking the door and.
Yet it's the Christian that's going to jail for blocking the door, right?
She was praying she got arrested.
Yeah, I'll get this.
So my wife was arrested for anti -abortion stuff and she made friends in jail.
It's a great story.
She likes it.
Okay, but here's the thing one night, you know how she is.
She's pretty much mild except for this one time She was at this abortion
rally.
She was a bunch with a bunch of people.
They're on the ground praying.
They weren't yelling.
They weren't screaming.
They weren't blocking anybody.
They're praying.
They're praying for the babies.
They're praying for the people going in there and she told me she said that the cameras were there the news
people there Cameras were off and that the pro -aborts baby killers womb scrapers what
they were doing was yelling and filthy and foul and cussing and they were yelling at the Christians and
they're just going on and on and the cameras wouldn't roll and Finally after a while she told
me she said My wife's name is Anik.
It's a French name.
We call her Nick for short.
So Nick told me that One guy just lost it when Christian just started yelling back.
I mean, you know, okay and the cameras came on and Filmed him and that night on the
news Christians almost caused a riot, but they show this guy.
Yeah, the left are Lying pieces of crap.
I call them L socks lying sacks of crap.
Yeah, I mean look at what you have going on with Donald Trump when at first the first reports
after the Assassination attempt we talked about it last week where they're like Trump leaves rally
because of loud noise.
Yeah, so.
You know this this is this is the what we end up seeing them them doing.
There was a question that we had here Matt from John up in Canada.
He says question are you saying the Democrat Party is going to take over the whole world's.
That's not what we're saying here.
The point of this is to say in America, which party?
Would the Antichrist be more aligned with.
That's that's the point of the article that Matt has.
So I definitely would be on the side of the Democrats more than the Republicans.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Last point number six.
Yeah, make war with the Christians.
It's already mentioned.
He'll speak out against the most high and wear down the saints of the highest one.
And look at this is scary to me.
Revelation 13 7 it was also given to him to make war with the Saints and to
overcome them now that
That scares me.
You know when I was in college, it was a very good professor went to a Lutheran College a great professor.
I learned a lot from him in Lutheran College and someone asked him Dr. Rosenblatt
If someone were to put a gun to your head and say deny Jesus, what would you do.
And he said.
After like half a minute to a minute just pause the whole room was quiet.
He said I Can only hope that I would not deny my Lord.
He says if I don't deny him, it's because of God's grace.
And if I do deny him, it's because of my sin.
I Never forgot that that was a very good answer.
What would we do in that situation?
When the Antichrist has given the ability to overcome the Saints to destroy to imprison
to kill to persecute Christians are going to be running all over the place
now the general mentality of Christianity in America is comfort
God.
God will give you a big bank account.
He wants you to be healthy.
He wants you to be wealthy.
I don't know who's pre -trib rapture or not.
But you got to think is that part of the comfort theology that has been given.
I call it hammock theology.
If you look in the Bible Christians go through this they Jesus said when you see this run.
And you see that happen you run to the hills.
People have to be there.
Noah, you know, he was in the destruction of the ungodly.
He was there during it and was kept alive in the midst of it and goes on.
So this is something that's gonna be very very serious and and in my heart.
I want to prepare Christians for the Antichrist.
I'm not saying he's gonna be here in the next 5 10 20 50 years.
I don't know but you better be aware and you better be ready and don't put your hope in your
comfort in your bank account in your cars put it in the Lord Jesus Christ and Part of the reason I believe that he
lets so much of us go through so many trials and tribulations.
Prepare us for the true trial tribulation coming if we are so Comfortable at
the slightest Sight is a zephyr of difficulty comes to us.
God doesn't love me and all this kind of stuff when the Antichrist comes what's gonna happen to the faith of people.
I'm not.
I don't know.
I you know, it's possibilities we could talk about but it concerns me a great deal.
I firmly believe that Christians have what it takes to take over the world For the glory of God and have a good
a good world.
I believe Christians aren't doing their job because they're not living as Christians need to.
Politically socially and in their families and other things.
That's what I believe.
Yeah, and and I think that Look, there's a lot we could sit here and say well, you
know.
Is it really the Christians fault that you know, these things are happening?
Well, yes, and no, I think that.
You know if we were to be more diligent in what God calls us to do We would see different
results.
We look.
Politicians I've said this all time politicians will follow the crowd and if if more people were Christian
if we were preaching the gospel so much more that Christ would end up
decide if Christ decided to Bring more people to himself or generate more people.
It's such that there were more people Professing Christ so that the rest of the world would feel to fit in.
They need to do that.
The politicians would follow suit.
Look.
America in its founding was not it was not designed to be a Christian nation
but it used Christian values and.
And so What we end up seeing is That even guys like Benjamin
Franklin who is not a Christian He spoke more like a Christian in his day and age
than professing Christians do today.
Because it was the cultural expectation.
He wanted to fit in.
So.
Christians are doing this.
Which way is the doctrinal wind blowing.
And so for folks that are listening on audio Matt just stuck his Finger and is up in the air to say that, you know, see which way the wind
is blown.
So let's let's let's wrap up this one.
We will pull up a different article that you have that's in line with this.
But so let's look at your conclusion that you had here.
Yeah, I don't say which party he will belong to But I say scripture tells us that those who align
themselves with the Antichrist will face a severe judgment and so I wanted to give the gospel out there and I put the last
link there of the gospel that people are Are made aware of it and I was hoping that people would read this and
Democrats because generally Democrats Generally are not Christians.
And so the Democrats would read it go.
Oh my goodness my my party the Antichrist or.
Wow.
That want to shake them up.
There's the gospel message.
So I asked the question Do you know of a political party that aligned with most of or all the policies that are in accord with the
Antichrist?
I don't say which one it is.
Does it who knows but It's definitely is most everybody.
I've shown this to us Democrats Democrat Party.
So That's it.
There's gonna be a lot of there could be a lot of stuff, you know.
A lot of running it kind of reminds me of the movie aliens, you know, I looked I've seen it 78 times.
Back to the movie aliens.
That's right.
There's there are scenes when they're just running.
Yeah.
That's gonna be the tribulation period with the Antichrist.
It's gonna be bad.
That's.
All right, so before we go to the next article, um, you know there there
Because we there's an article that you did not link here.
Now.
I know why you didn't because you you Of your your intent with that and we want to
get to another article.
Which is the history of the Democrat Party in America and so before we do though I want to
encourage folks, you know, like Matt was talking earlier that He had that debate
and he was just suddenly exhausted and and in case in case Matt has that happen
again I think the solution is that Matt needs to go and get himself a good cup
of coffee from squirrely Joe's coffee.
He needs to go to striving for attorney org slash coffee to make sure he has a good cup of Joe.
That not only will keep him awake, which he obviously needs but also he'd be supporting a
good Christian family that is training their children to run a business and Provide for
themselves and so squirrely Joe's coffee the cup.
I'm having today.
I just opened a new bag of Encouragement see that's why Matt needs to get you know
The squirrely Joe's because you met Matt could get himself a bag of wisdom.
Because he could use some or or maybe some integrity.
You know that you need any you need any wisdom or integrity.
I.
Don't have any left.
See that's why you need a cup of integrity or wisdom or or any of the other great names he has.
Compassion.
That's the one that Matt needs.
He needs a cup of compassion.
I fake that all the time.
That's not a problem.
Yeah, so if you want to get yourself a good cup of coffee not it's is you can get it at Whole Beans you can
Get it ground.
You can get the five -pound bags if you want for your church or for yourself.
I have I have.
Someone our webmaster actually both Matt and my from our websites both of us
share the same webmaster.
And when we got our You know squirrely Joe started supporting us.
He went out to buy his five -pound bags.
So in case Matt you think that you drink a lot of coffee.
You know who drinks.
You just asked Josh whether he must drink a whole lot more than you and I combined that he needs five.
Pound.
Josh actually sent me this cup and it's electrical, you know, and you can hold it.
It has a battery and it keeps it at a certain temperature.
He's got one at home.
Yeah.
Yeah, he sent it to me.
Yeah, we talked about you behind your back too and I'm sure.
Oh man, whoa, none of it is good.
I know that is good.
I have my mug right here.
Look at this my my car mug.
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No, wait.
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Yeah, that says living waters.
That doesn't say where's where's my karma?
This car do any like cool yeti mugs that you put in.
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Matt just yawned as if he is tired and I think what Matt is trying to say is
he didn't he didn't have his squirrelly Joe's coffee.
But he is ready for his my pillow.
He would like to have a pillow of my pillow Matt.
You and I've traveled together.
Do do I travel with my pelt my my pillow?
I do.
Yeah, I have to before I've taken it with me.
It's really good.
I have it.
It's.
Yeah, it is my my pillow.
My my pillow is packed right now in the bag that you can't see over my shoulder.
Ready for my trip to Arizona.
You and I will both be in Arizona for different reasons but I go with my pillow and.
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And so with that Matt, let's look at the next article.
I think that this one is something that will be
More specific for folks who may be Democrats listening.
But there is a history and this is not This you know, I look through
this.
This is a lot of this is stuff folks.
If you've been listening here, you've heard me say this plenty of times the the history of the Democrat Party.
Because it is important to understand Where this party has
always stood.
I mean, I I'll just put it this way I am shocked that anyone would
any African -american would support the Democrats if they understood the history.
We'll look at this.
But I mean the Democrat Party was the Democrat of the party of the KKK.
They were the ones that were fighting to keep people enslaved.
The Republican Party was formed.
Because there wasn't a there was a Whig Party and a Democrat Party and It was
the Republican Party that started because of a platform of ending slavery in America.
That was the reason that We that there was the Republican Party.
Abraham Lincoln was the first president after to they they lost the first presidential election.
They won the next presidential election with Abraham Lincoln.
And what was the result an end to slavery such that important enough that it would
divide our country over the issue of taxes and slavery and become an issue
that Brought us to civil war and so after that Civil War when the
Union you had one party that fought.
That was fighting to continue to keep people enslaved to keep segregation.
It was the party of the KKK.
It was the party that fought against civil rights.
The Republicans were the first was the first party where blacks held seats where they fought for civil
liberties and civil rights.
The the Democrats fought against it.
What changed with the Democrat Party is very simple.
What they ended up doing was they became the party after the civil rights to offer
mostly in black areas both Abortion clinics with Planned Parenthood.
To kill their children and they specifically did it in black neighborhoods so that blacks would not be as popular as
whites.
But also the Democrat Party was the ones to support the welfare system.
The Democrats were the party that we talked about last week.
It was under the Carter administration that you had the the federal government.
Funding wars by bringing drugs into America and where did the they end up distributing it
into black Communities to just and they said that there they it would it would help to
destroy the black family.
But don't worry the Democrats had an answer to that as well.
They provided welfare and once the there were so many blacks that were on the welfare system.
Well, you had to keep voting Democrat to keep them in office.
Okay, so there's just some history but Matt let's go through you have some quotes in here.
So Let me let you go through some of your quotes that you have.
And again, I should you can look you can find this article on calm org.
Just search for history of the Democrat Party in America.
Yeah, it was actually a fun article to write and for me fun.
It's gonna sound odd for me fun is like, oh, that's a new heresy, you know, I
don't watch sports I don't you know, you know and It's like Heresy
heresy.
Oh stupidity.
I get a kick out of us.
Well, I think well.
I got I got to tell the story about you and I.
We were in California together speaking at a conference.
We got we got the the the guy who's moderating the conference driving us around and
We drive past a I don't know if you remember this we drove past the Kingdom Hall and
There were a bunch of people in the parking lot.
Do you remember that?
We both looked we looked at each other and looked at the driver.
We're like, can we turn around and He's like I got to take you guys somewhere.
We're like, but there's people in the parking lot.
He looks at me in the front seat looks in the you in the rear mirror goes you guys are just
weird.
But the lady was it you in the car.
Were in the the in Washington DC in the lady driver, you know.
And we're going.
Oh, yeah.
We're all we're insulting each other and she was having a great time.
Just listen to us be stupid and we're talking about the Lord witnessing all this.
I remember that that was fun.
I don't think that may have been Nathan.
Because Nathan was with you in DC if it was for the reason.
Rally.
Reason rally.
Yeah reason.
Yeah, the reason.
So for those who don't know the reason why reason rally was a thing that the atheists did.
It was a big rally.
They wanted to get together and show that they're a political force.
So every four years they meet in DC and have a big rat rally for atheism.
And.
We brought Christians.
They did it twice.
2016 was the last time so the first time they did it they said they'd have about you know five to ten thousand people there,
but they were predicting five thousand people and We came down with about one to three hundred Christians to evangelize
them.
I listened to the rally and basically all their rally was Anti -republican anti -christian they didn't actually
say anything.
That was pro Democrats or pro which was the party they were supporting.
Or really they said nothing about anything pro -atheism.
It was supposed to be an atheist rally and all they did was bash Christianity and Republicans.
And so they said so rained a lot that day.
There was only about a thousand people and they said it was because of the rain.
Well the next for next four years later and one time they had it.
I called up Matt slick.
I called up Ray Comfort.
I said hey, let's let's get everyone out here to to evangelize.
And so with the help of Ray Comfort, they they put it out there promoted it and Matt promoted it.
I promoted it we had a thousand Christians that came out that signed up to join
us for the outreach and so it was quite interesting because we we were
there to evangelize and They said because they were saying they were gonna be 30 ,000
atheists there and they were predicting this and well they had 5 ,000 people in total
according to the the Capitol Police who.
You know check, you know do these things and they they have people when you have events like this.
They they count the number of people.
They said there was 5 ,000 we made up 20 %.
Their rally.
And so they said always because those Christians they they scared all the atheists off.
Well, they didn't have another rally after that because they realized that atheism is not a political then.
They don't have the political clout they claim.
Yeah, they didn't have a rally lately.
I wanted to go to it go to it again.
Yeah.
Well, they would probably say oh, it's it was the 2020 it was because of kovat.
Well, hey.
You know atheist rally folks.
Another elections coming up.
Yeah, let's do it.
Let's have your rally.
You know, I want to do a calm rally, but we could do a you know mutual do a thing apologetics rally.
We meet someplace I just have people come in and we talk and we make plans and we see what people
can do and then Start reaching out.
Yeah, so I'm actually going right now to look to see.
Maybe maybe I missed it.
Maybe they have another.
Nope.
Re reason rally coalition is proud to have hosted two of the largest of Gatherings to
celebrate secularism Identity and speak up for reason in American history
reason rally 2012 and reason rally 2016.
So the reason rally 2012 was atheists and secularists gather and then reason
rally 2016 was Speak up for reason now.
They it was the largest gathering Thousand people the first year we made up
300 of the of the thousand.
Okay, so we made up 30 of their first rally and
Their second rally we made up 20
So I guess they did a better job of getting more out there but like it is quite
interesting that we made up 20 to 30 percent of their rally and they claim it's the largest ever.
You ever see Spongebob where I think it's Spongebob says
you have to use your imagination.
You know, we had our kids we do Spongebob on Saturday.
So I was I always say the reason rally because it's good make -believe.
Yeah, I have no idea what Spongebob is.
It was fun.
We have kids but There's a lot of fun because I'd say to the kids.
There's fire underwater and they would give me an explanation.
Ridiculous explanations.
A lot of fun.
Well, any rate.
So the reason rally there was not much reason there and You know, I try to have conversations with people.
Aaron are in raw was there and I made eye contact with him and we had a discussion once.
He doesn't ever want to see Me or talk to me again.
That's because you're logical and he's not.
Because I accused him of being a man of faith.
Yeah.
Not like that.
Everything you cannot prove everything he does.
He has certain philosophical assumptions that are necessary in his worldview and you know I bring this out and it's a
fake.
You can't prove it all if you presuppose ability of logic.
That's a faith issue that you're having that it's ubiquitous and it means you presuppose.
So how then can you be consistently and say you don't have any faith in anything?
You know, it's just it's you know, and so, you know, you talk to talk to them there.
I found out they don't really.
Do logic very well, you know, we did we did a real interesting thing at the reason rally the first their first one in 2012.
Lots of us were going around and we didn't get good video footage of it because it was raining.
Eric Coven I think had some that he tried putting out but the first.
He was out here just a little while ago.
Oh, was he?
Yeah I talked.
I was on the phone with him not too long ago.
But Eric was it got us to all to ask one question to start conversations and it was
great to do.
We walked around and asked people if I could convince you to your
satisfaction that Jesus is God.
Would you?
Worship him when you bow down and worship him and they would go.
No, you don't have any evidence.
I said nuts, but if I could convince you to your satisfaction, whatever your satisfaction is.
And in the back no, it's like okay, then we don't have an evidence issue.
So this is a religious issue now and well, I'm not religious.
You're not you're not looking at the evidence.
You're you're ignoring the evidence.
So we're not dealing with evidence anymore.
We're dealing with religion.
That.
You know, I actually went to an atheist convention in Minnesota and was there and had some interesting
conversations.
I didn't go to start any trouble people recognize me, which I was hoping they wouldn't.
But I wrote an article when I got back the religion of Atheism.
There are so many commonalities with religious systems that they would do this rally.
It was interesting, but.
They bow to the God of rationalism and secularism and all this stuff, which is
unfounded and ungroundable.
So I I'm really nervous about this Matt.
I don't think I'll play this but if you check your text message Cameron a friend of ours just sent me a
video of SpongeBob imagination.
Cameron's watching.
Oh, hey, how you doing, buddy?
There it is.
Let's see.
It's one minute long.
Yeah, it'd be fun.
Yeah.
Well, okay.
I'd have to.
You know, I.
Played in a different browser.
I probably end up getting some copyright strike, but let's let's.
You have fair use laws though, yeah, so if I.
Use laws, I just got to play it.
Let me let me first I got to set something up to be able to do that, but so if I
play it in the I think if I played in the same browser as we do this
that becomes an issue, so.
This is called sharing the screen to a different browser.
Go down below.
Share.
No.
No it what it is.
I'm mocking him.
I get an echo in if I do it in the same browser and want me to play it.
No, no, I got it set up here on a different browser.
So I just didn't cause problems.
Well, what else is new?
Way to go.
Cameron, here we go.
Cameron's a good guy though.
Yes, we won't say it out loud.
But here we go.
Let's see.
Nope.
I.
Have to first off.
Make sure the volume is up here.
And why is that not?
That should have been playing.
Oh.
Because I put it in the wrong one.
Hold on.
Here we go.
Now I got it in the right browser.
Now, I just got to find that browser.
I.
Can be anything I want.
Starfish.
Patrick, you're already a starfish.
How are you two making those boxes and
Imagination Imagination.
I have more Imagination in one tentacle that you two have in your whole
body.
That's good.
No, all you need is a box.
Welcome aboard Squidward.
I.
Guess I'm concerned what was with the rainbow.
That they they.
Every time he says imagination they show a rainbow.
I don't know.
Yeah, interesting, isn't it?
Yeah, we stopped watching all that stuff for years ago.
Be well, they grew up but also went to see a movie and it was they're starting to get woke.
I'm like, ah crap.
So we you know, oh, yeah, like everything else.
You know the Muppets.
Anyway, let's wrap up serious stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So so you have this article that you put out on the history of Democrat Party?
Yeah, you want to go through that or some?
Of the quotes.
Whatever you want.
MOC.
What when you.
You know, which quotes do you want to go do and I'll just put those up.
Make sure those aren't screen.
Well, we can see it right now.
I mean there it is.
Number one.
You know Democratic Party was formed around the election of Andrew Jackson in 1828.
Mainly a negative one in the sense.
It was against big government progressive reform such as abolition of slavery.
Okay, if you could skip down to number three.
It's underlined every segregation law in the United States from the 1880s to the 1950s was passed by a
Democratic legislature.
Signed by Democratic governor enforced by Democratic officials and there's not a single exception to this rule.
I'm continue with this the Democrats were the party of slavery of segregation the founding of the Ku
Klux Klan of reviving the Ku Klux Klan of Racial terrorism and in opposition to civil rights movement in
the 1960s.
Don't trust the Democrats what they do is they say they were always the party of this or that
they lie.
They lie so much the first 23 of African -americans in Congress
did belong to the Democratic I mean to the Republican Party due to the GOP's support for voting
rights and Democratic Party's embrace of whites White supremacy, oh the Democratic Democratic Party for
that.
And I thought this was interesting that Democrats were the party of slavery black codes Jim Crow and that
miserable terrorist Excreta since a great word the Ku Klux Klan
Republicans were the party of Lincoln reconstruction anti -lynching laws Civil Rights Act of 1875 50
1957 1664.
Yeah, how could you be?
Parties just you know.
It's a terrorist organization that's entrenched in our government.
And if we don't root out this piece of crap Dems get them out of office.
They're gonna continue to destroy this country and I watch videos every now and then on the Gen Z Gen
X all this stuff.
Oh my goodness.
They are they're Kool -Aid drinkers for those of you don't know what that means.
Not Heaven's Gate done in Ghana.
Yeah, it was Jim Jones Jones Jim and he killed what 900 people
with poisoned Kool -Aid.
Very quickly became as a cult.
Very quickly became drink the Kool -Aid and that's what it means.
You just buy India's drink.
It is it's harmful to you.
So Too many people just drink the Kool -Aid.
They don't think they just.
They just abdicate their minds their wills.
To whatever the news media is telling them the Hitler said Hitler knew that if you can get
control the media publication of information you control the population and get the children as well.
This is why those Friggin L socks need to get into get the children's minds going and in
school I got stories of stuff but in school, they're they're promoting socialism communism
LGBT the alphabet mafia crap moral relativism.
They're destroying our country.
This is a serious problem.
I know it I see it.
I get emails from all over the world I guess if all over the world, you know, the Karma's had a huge impact on a lot of
people's lives.
I get information and I'm gonna tell you it's a lot worse than people think.
What's filtered through us in the media is a tenth of what is happening out there.
It's bad.
It is really bad, there's a lot of corruption in the government.
There's a lot of corruption in governments all over the world.
There's a movement for one world ism.
There's controls of parties.
There's manipulation of economies.
There's all kinds of stuff going on.
They want to be in control and the demonic forces are behind that because that's what the demonic forces want.
They want to be in control not God.
That's what's going on.
Anyway, so let's look at some what you got.
Here is the the history and you just you know, whatever you want.
I will scroll to to give the timeline but.
Yeah.
Coming up with a slogan for the Democratic Party in the chat with and here I got one.
With there we go that that would be the the Democratic Party slogan with Antichrist
will unite.
So in 1829 the Democratic Party was founded on a platform of individual rights state sovereignty and pro -slavery.
I Read this on about once every two months in the radio.
I'll go over this when people when it comes up.
By the way, I've been doing radio for five days a week for 20 years.
I Think there were 19 19 and a half and two.
I did one day a week for two years.
So but I just see about 21 years of radio but anyway 1830.
For folks to know you just go to karma org and you can see you can actually join the radio as well and ask
questions.
Matt.
Stump him with all your really hard questions.
He would he likes that and.
But the you can go to it's the written in the program is Matt slick live and if you can't
catch it live.
He does do have a podcast as well by the same name.
That's like live.
So that's a podcast you can search on any podcast app and listen to there.
That's right.
Amen.
Yeah, calm that org forward slash radio will give you all the stuff you need.
So Look at this.
1830 the Democratic president Andrew Jackson creates the Indian Removal Act Which forced
indigenous people to leave their homeland?
You know that it bothers me.
It just didn't know that that happened to the Indians.
Oh, they were lied to so much.
In.
1854 the Republican Party is founded on an anti -slavery platform.
1857 in the case of Scott versus Sanford the court ruled that slaves
aren't citizens.
They are property.
The seven justices voting in favor were Democrats and the two dissented were Republicans.
So which.
What does this sound like about the abortion issue?
The life in the womb is property.
It doesn't have rights.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'll say oh but they did that only for tax purposes which is true.
They did it.
There's I mean two two reasons for that was taxes.
They didn't want to have to pay taxes for slaves.
And the other was, you know after after slavery was You know, they wanted to
they'll say well with the the North.
Didn't you know, they would say afterwards that it was the North that said blacks were three -quarters of a person.
And the reason it wasn't there were three -quarters of a person.
It was three -quarters of a vote and there's a difference there because the slave owners of You know
would could then force people to get so that they could get more votes they would force people to say, you know,
this is how you vote and Very much like what we see going on right now with the illegal immigration.
There's a direct correlation here.
You had you had the Democrats who used blacks to vote a certain way to get the votes
they needed to affect elections and now we have the the Democrats who are opening up our southern
border for the purpose of Getting votes.
They need names for ballots.
Okay, it's all about the ballots and They need names for that.
And so having all these people whose names they now have They have people who they could
vote for so there and if you if you're saying Oh the Democrats wouldn't do that the Republicans
just passed a bill That stated that only American citizens
federally they wanted to put a federal lawsuit only American citizens could vote and the
Democrats Every Democrat voted against that.
Well that tells you that they want people who are not American citizens to vote.
Because it wasn't one of these bills that had a whole lot of things in it.
It was very clear.
Very simple only Americans vote.
It makes sense, you know, I'm from moved here 20 years ago from San Diego and
I worked at a hospital registering patients.
We were about 45 minutes north of Mexico on the border.
Okay, give or take and.
Not all of the Hispanics were bad.
Some were very great people.
But it was common to not be able to communicate with people because they didn't speak English.
I remember once I was in the hospital registering somebody and I speak enough Spanish and I was saying
Okay, are you pregnant?
She said yes.
Okay, about how far along and how many children have you got?
These three kids are all yours.
Yes, and you're pregnant with it.
Okay, where's the father of this child?
Don't know.
Is he the same father as that child?
No, where's the father of that second child?
I don't know.
Is the same father of the third child?
No, he's not.
Where's the father of that child don't know there's a man sitting next to her.
Is that the father of one you're pregnant with?
Yes.
Are you married to him?
No, how long you been in the country eight years?
You speak English?
No.
This is representative of a lot of what happened and I thought that's not all there's some very good
Hispanics with character.
I mean I met a few but this kind of a thing is what is brought in when.
When you just open a border up and let anybody come in.
These are the illegals who came in and we wouldn't turn a man and we wanted to build to get you don't care and stuff.
Like that my car was broken into my wife's car.
Was stolen and they found it near the border.
So, you know I had to learn Spanish even more in order to be down there and do what I had to do and
it's because.
When you open the border up it gets flooded.
Mm -hmm, and this is what the Democrats want.
They don't want harmony.
They don't want citizens who paid the taxes to to have their rightful do.
They want to take advantage of the system manipulate the system for their own power and their own control.
And they don't care if they harm others in the process.
That's the point the Republicans used to control California until they flooded the people in from
the border got them voting Democrat now California's purely Democrat, you know, the the
Republicans try something that at first I thought was very dangerous.
I was very much against when Barack Obama was president.
He wanted an amnesty bill and the Republicans they gave and they
Voted for an amnesty bill that had every single thing that Barack Obama
Wanted except for one thing.
There's only one thing they left out.
Everything he wanted for amnesty, but they had a stipulation that the people who got amnesty
could not vote for 20 years and Barack Obama vetoed it
that tells you what he wanted with it with the M's.
Yeah, okay.
That's what it was all about.
So he ends up trying to do it through executive order, but.
So so let's continue you're now up to nine to 1860.
So in 1860 11 states secede from the Union Democrats start the Civil War.
Now they wanted slavery.
And how many thousands and thousands and thousands died because of that.
In 1863 Republican President Abraham Lincoln signs the Emancipation Proclamation.
Again in 1863 Republicans elect their first Hispanic governor Waldo
Pacheco of California.
1865 Lincoln was assassinated his vice president Andrew Johnson.
A Democrat assumes a presidency who was opposed to integrating the newly freed slaves.
So the poor blacks, you know, they're getting their rights are given to them and
then the Dems get in power when Republican presidents killed assassinated murdered and
they want to be in control and We could talk about similarities between that and what happened a couple of weeks ago.
In 1865 Republicans passed the 13th Amendment which permanently Outlaws
slavery.
Who passed that with the Democrats?
Nope but in 1865 Democrats established a black codes a state in
a state and local statute intended to Marginalize blacks and keep them in indentured
servitude.
Poll taxes and literacy tests prevented them from voting.
You didn't have any problem, you know, you prevent the people you don't want to vote by certain requirements, but then
you Remove all requirements when you wanted to vote.
The hypocrite pieces of hill socks.
1865 Confederate veterans found the KKK to oppose the Republican Party's
integration of blacks.
Its first Grand Wizard was a Democrat named Nathan Bedford Forrest, you know.
1868 Republicans passed a 14th Amendment giving blacks citizenship.
It was opposed by the Democrats.
1868 again Republicans passed a 15th Amendment giving blacks the right to vote.
No Democrat supported it.
1868 again KKK Grand Wizard is honored at the Democratic National Convention.
Could you imagine that?
Whoo, we've got the street to the day with a Gen Z.
Gen X say one of the political parties in the 1800s hosted.
What honored the KKK Grand Wizard.
Which party was that all the Republicans?
There's no conditioned.
It's not that long ago that there was a Grand Wizard who just died Representative
Byrd and he held the seat longer than I think anyone in history
was you know.
And Joe Biden was there praising this guy who is a KKK Grand Wizard.
Yeah, that's bad.
It's you know, and Amy's right in the text.
Why are so many blacks?
Why are so many black stems and and the reason for that is is because the Democrats realize that if they After
they destroyed and this is the thing you have to see as a pattern with the Democrats.
They they cause a problem and then say they're the only solution to the problem.
So they cause the problem in the black communities by destroying the the black family and then
claimed that the blacks need them as the as the.
Solution to it by a welfare system and then once people are on the welfare system there look I had this
with a guy.
He passed away, but I went to church with him.
He he had.
He claimed he had you know OCD.
He couldn't work.
He was on a welfare system once he got on the government assistance.
He was capable of working.
He knew work would be good for him.
But he was so afraid that if he got a job he can never get on the government Welfare system again that
he ended up staying on in the system.
Knowing that it was you know hurting him.
But he did that because he was he was so afraid that hey, I got a guaranteed check coming in for the rest of my
life I don't have to worry about it.
If I go get a job I could lose that job and then what do I do?
So so we face that issue system.
They keep voting for him, but They're waking up now.
Oh, yeah.
They are as they are.
I face a similar issue with karm with people that that are have disabilities.
They want to work and volunteer with karm.
I can't pay them because if I do They lose their benefits.
This is a real problem, you know.
Oh.
Anyway, so in 1869 Reconstruction ended Democrats
reestablished white supremacy in the South with Jim Crow laws that legalized Segregation that would
take another 100 years to abolish.
Way to go.
Dems.
1871 Republican President Ulysses S Grant dismantles the KKK.
1872 Republicans elect the first African -american senators and representatives.
1877.
Quote.
When reconstruction ended in 1877 Southern Democrats reigned regained power and began passing and
implementing legal restrictions such as the poll tax literally to literacy tests and
Grandfather clauses effectively disenfranchising much of the new african -american doctorate or electorate.
Fix that title.
In.
1878 Republican Senator Aaron Sargent introduces a 19th amendment to give women the right to vote
the Democratic controlled Congress.
Vetoed it ah.
In.
1911 Democratic President Woodrow Wilson stuffs his cabinet with Dixie crats
Powerful Southern Democrats and set back the cause of civil rights for decades.
1918 the KKK is reestablished Targeting immigrants Jews and Catholics in
addition to blacks.
1919 Republican Congress passed a 19th amendment Guaranteeing women the right to vote.
This is a Republican Congress that did that and Note, it says that Democrats It
says under the leadership of Democratic President Woodrow Wilson The US Constitution was amended to grant women the right to vote notice
how they try to take credit for what now is good.
But then they work against it.
They're hypocrites.
Mm -hmm.
1922 Democrats Try to keep lynching legal by creating filibuster in the Senate.
I mean think about that.
Lynching.
Well, you know, they're the ones saying that you know.
It's like there was the the NASCAR driver who had a rope Hanging from the garage and it had
a loop on it so that you could grab the handle and pull it down and they were.
Like all see he's racist.
That's a lynching.
He's trying to say that they should lynch blacks.
It was the Democrats that wanted to keep lynching legal so that they could continue doing it.
Yeah.
Yeah, they make like I said, they create problems and then.
To be fair people will say well that was the old Democrat Party.
Democrats are different today.
I I'm saying that as we go through this to show they haven't changed.
They've changed.
You want blacks to be enslaved.
They've continued they continue to want to get their power off the the
backs of black people.
That's been their consistent history.
Blacks are waking up though.
They're waking up.
They're saying we had enough of this.
Anyway in 1822 Democrats, I can't believe that.
Trying to keep lynching legal.
It's murder.
Let's just do that.
We can lynch him.
We can accuse somebody get a mob together and go kill him.
Let's keep it legal.
Yeah.
Anyway 1929 Republican Octavine Octaviano Lorazolo becomes
a first Mexican American senator.
What party was he of?
Republican.
Oh crazy about that and 1929 Republican Charles Curtis becomes the first Native
American VP vice president.
1939 Democrat and KKK covered girl Margaret Sanger.
Oh, yeah.
She's great.
Created the Negro project and planned parenthood to call the black population
murderers.
1954 Republican lawmakers outlawed segregation in public school.
Opposed by state Democrats Republican President Eisenhower sent in federal troops to enforce the law.
Yeah, even in the 50s the Republic the Democrats were still being.
But heads.
1959 first Republican Asian senator Hiram Fong is elected.
1964 President Johnson Successfully runs an ad title.
This is important to confessions of a Republican.
Democrats learned that by accusing Republicans of racism even without evidence They
can gain political power.
Now I'm gonna tell you a story.
Does that happen today?
Oh, hey, so I'm gonna tell you so I won't tell you his name.
But he ran for the Senate in Missouri and we're sitting in a car.
We're talking.
He's a Christian and he said that what happened was He never losing the election.
What happened was?
He was Being honest being forthright and the Democratic
Opposition started spreading lies about him.
Just sit made up stuff.
Just made it up and let it go.
Public gossip false accusations lies.
He said he spent most of his time defending himself.
But he is a Christian wouldn't do the same thing to him the other guy because it's lies.
So he spent most of his time defending and defending defending it was it was bad.
And he said then the day before the election.
The there's this one particular area geographical area subcounty.
That was incredibly important for who's gonna win and in that County all of the voting
machines stopped working a day before or two days before and.
Then they were new ones were put in from the company that was run
by Democrats and He just barely lost the election.
He told me this I know who he is.
I can still get in contact with him, but he told me this I'm not gonna say what was.
But but I mean you're saying that and I mean, this is this is what we end up seeing though this isn't
unusual now what the the Democrats are having a hard time with the reason they hate a guy like Trump is.
The way Trump handles it is he doesn't he doesn't sit there and defend the racism.
He points out what they're doing.
I don't know if you saw the he was on the with the black journalists and they asked they're like, you know.
Asking him all these questions, which really weren't questions.
They were attacks on him.
You know you believe this you say this and it's like there's no question here.
It's just an attack on him and.
So they they asked do you think that you know, Kamala Harris is a DEI president?
He goes.
Well, tell me what DEI is define it.
You know, it's like what diversity.
He goes, okay, what does it mean, you know, so it's basically like well is it you know.
Do you think she's a black, you know black president?
He goes.
Well, I don't know.
She's I you know, she's been Indian for many many years.
It's all of a sudden.
She's black I mean like so if she's not like if she's not okay with being you with her
own background.
Well, why should I be you know now?
What did he do?
He never even you know, he they want to say he's a racist.
They want to say he's against her because she's black and yet he's just what does he do?
He just points out.
Well, she's actually Indian.
She's not black.
It's like people used to get upset with me when I when I'd say the appeal be like well Barack Obama's the first black president.
Well, he's more white than black.
He was raised by his white mother and grandmother.
He by his own if you read his own books.
He'll tell you in as a teenager in high school his mother took him to a library so he could
Learn what it means to be black.
So when he talks about all the black experience he learned it from books according to his own writings.
He didn't know the black experience because he grew up white.
Hmm, you know, you know liars deceivers.
This is what the Bible prophesies.
We could do a little show once called the Prescott ology and go through the Bible.
Yeah.
Okay, well.
In 1939, why is Margaret Sanger so important?
Because she was The one who founded Planned Parenthood by which the justification for
killing millions and millions and millions of babies is there.
Yeah, and for folks to understand I want you to note the date of that 1939.
Let's put it in in history.
This is when Adolf Hitler is in Germany and he is writing.
For he basically what he's doing is he is writing for a case
against Jewish people.
And.
He's he's basically saying well, they're not human and he he's arguing for
a.
Essentially he's arguing for What we would refer to
as a social.
You know social evolution it was called.
I'm trying to remember the full name, but Jet eugenics, I think I'm not pronouncing it properly.
I forgot how to pronounce this project eugenics.
That's a eugenics.
So so here you have Margaret Sanger at the time of Hitler seeing what's going on over there
in in.
Germany.
Seeing the eugenics project that they're doing there and she is applying that here in the United
States with the help of the the Democrats and Planned Parenthood is still
supported today by Democrats in black areas when the purpose of it If you read
Margaret Sanger her purpose of it was to limit the growth of blacks.
Thanks to thanks to Joanne.
I'll put the link Here in the chat for folks to look at but again this article
just go to Karm .org and search for history of the history of the Democrat
Party in America is the full title, but if you you go you can there's a link.
So thank you for that Joanne.
By the way, I should I should give a plug for Joanne.
Joanne runs the prayer Group at karm so if you have prayer requests that you would like you
could contact karm go to karm .org and There you'd be able to click where you can get
prayer requests and they pray Regularly for those people that have prayer requests.
So something that you could do.
You know good job at it too, yeah perfect for it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
A little bit.
Yeah.
Okay, but I think it's important that they learn to use lying and deception in order to gain
power.
That's something the Antichrist would love.
Anyway, Democrat Lyndon B. Johnson who became president after Kennedy's assassination said in 1963.
I'll have those n words.
Vote Democrat for the next 200 years and these Negroes they get pretty uppity these days and that's a problem for us.
We've got to give them a little something just enough to quiet them down not enough to make a difference.
Yeah.
In the last one here in 1964 Republican controlled Congress passes the 1964 Civil
Rights Act as an extension of Republicans.
1957 1960 Civil Rights Act.
Democrats senators filibustered filibustered the bill for a record
75 days.
Wow.
Yeah.
So it was so 1964 it was the Republicans that were fighting for the Civil
Rights Act and the Democrats trying to prevent it.
So just let these things sink in when we we talk about these parties.
Now Matt what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna let you mute yourself go look at what Cameron said.
I just you and I both know Cameron and we I don't know that I could trust him.
But he wants me to.
He sent a video to us and said I should go to the 19 -minute mark and Play that
I will let you decide whether we're gonna play.
I have it queued up in case you say yes but it's from your Matt
slick live show.
So I Will let Matt Check that out while he mutes himself so
we could see whether that is Something that we should play or not.
Sorry Cameron, but we both know you well.
All right, so.
What I will mention is We will both both Matt and I will be in
Arizona next week and.
You're still muted Matt.
Are you are you back?
Did you unmute?
Yeah, I'm back that it was.
Yeah, it's a I've let he found that thanks a Cameron.
It's a great insult.
Give you the bat in the background.
This guy calls up names.
Ryan calls you up on the show and he's Intellectual and for some reason I keep cornering him and
exposing his problems.
It goes on and on and on and.
So he let's just say he He got really upset.
He got really upset last week and I think it was last week.
Oh, wait.
Yes.
I remember this one.
I know exactly you're talking about.
Yes.
Yeah, and so he started insulting me and I.
Ought to do is just hit mute hit gone.
It's all I gotta do and I go.
No, I'm gonna let him go.
And he did this whole fake.
Because he couldn't out -argue me, I mean, I'm sorry, but he couldn't.
He doesn't know what he's doing.
And so he just got so mad that he this is what he did guy play it.
I think it's awesome.
He would call you he calls you regularly and he would be like he would he would try to.
You know, he would he would sit there and try to use what you say against you but every time you do it It's like
he wouldn't stay consistent with it.
But yeah, let's okay.
Let's listen.
Well, the thing is I've gone through exactly what I do with biblical exegesis.
I just taking you through that you agree.
I've done my own translation.
I've done my own exegesis.
Okay, and by the way, I guess we've come to the same point again.
So, why don't you enjoy your guano buffet for your feudal symbiotic sycophants and enjoy yourself.
Okay, your ignorance and your stupidity is a Degradation to the cause of Christ into the
cause of apologetics.
You are ignorant and you're arrogant and you are a stupid debater.
Okay.
Well, and yet I beat you all the time.
Sorry, but but people who've watched him he and I in our debates and listen to go.
Why does it keep going?
Yeah, he would call.
He calls regularly.
He would.
His issue is he he he hates Calvinism.
Yeah, he doesn't want to deal with it.
And he tried to bring these things up.
I mean I've listened to him and I mean You know, I would I would agree with some of what you know, I would agree with some of what you're saying.
A lot of what he would say on first john 2 2 but the problem he has is his way of arguing
was was really pathetic.
And.
He didn't like that.
You would.
You know, it's really interesting.
What he wanted to do is he wanted to nail down to let's ignore all the other scripture.
And only look at this one and then use this one to define everything.
And.
And yet.
You know if you do that, it's like no you can't do that.
Like because you turn to to like john 6 and like no no, you can only stick
to first john 2 2.
Well, you know the challenge I would have for him would be okay.
I could agree with his view of first john 2 2 now.
My question is how does that fit in with everything else that scripture says?
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, it's like hermeneutics.
You and I both know about hermeneutics the overly basic simplicity as you begin with I
call it a target and then it gradually gets wider.
What's it say?
Look at the context what it says related stuff around it related versus, you know, you just that's it.
It's not hard you know, there's variations in there, but that's all you got to do and apparently that Wasn't
the right thing to do.
Interesting.
Yeah, that was good.
I liked it.
That was pretty good.
Yeah.
Cameron.
Yeah, cameras.
Listen.
Hey way to go.
Cameron way to go.
Appreciate it.
So, uh, so we got like a couple minutes left.
First off let me just ask is there anything that uh, you want to promote going on with karm?
Any work that you guys are doing over there?
Just working on articles.
We're trying to get our seo up.
It's very difficult to do.
We are trying to monetize their videos.
We're having a major problem with that.
Over 20 000 22 000 people on the karm video stuff having a major difficulty with that.
I've got just another problem.
I just finished rewriting or re not re -editing my uh, my novel Uh the influence and I want to
get it up and released within the next day or two.
Working on that and i'm going to probably pick up another project.
I started 10 years ago.
Um.
The family training course and uh work with that.
I don't know if you've seen that.
No.
But it's an idea i've had.
And.
I think it's a really good idea.
I could share it with you and you could tell me what you think of it.
But I think it's a really helpful idea.
For the family and uh, I need to work on something like that.
So, you know, there's that and then my wife's health and uh, I just tell her, you know.
You're lucky to have me.
I'm wonderful.
Yeah, um.
She rubbed her forehead a lot more lately.
I don't think she believes that just so you know.
Well, she doesn't doesn't deny it.
But she's getting more headaches.
Okay.
Rubbing her forehead.
Let's let's just be clear.
Her shaking her head back and forth closing her eyes with her hands on her forehead.
That's not agreement.
It's not I thought it was you know.
No, that's not anything.
That's right.
Yeah, so that's her just going.
He's helpless.
Hey, we've married 36 years, so I think I got her trained and we'll figure it out.
Yeah, so let me let me mention, uh for folks who are watching live uh this week,
uh, we'll put out we where I will be next week is at the Christian
responsibility in an unchristian world.
This conference will be held in Vail, Arizona.
Uh, i'm going out early.
It's going to be august 8th to 10th.
I will be out because i'm preaching at pastor dominic's church this weekend.
It'll be actually pastor dominic.
And he also is uh for folks who know the name gabe hughes uh, gabe hughes church is
out that way by uh, uh, I forget where in.
Where dominic remaldi is?
Uh.
In custom custom mesa, I think is is the town Costa mesa, it's california your costa
mesa.
Well, no, that's not it's it's.
Well then i'm thinking the wrong place.
It's it's something it's in arizona.
Oh, i'm, sorry yeah, so so um but but uh Gabe hughes from
uh, when we understand the text the what videos.
Um, his church is out there.
And so I will be doing an evening service to both their churches this sunday.
But uh, the next weekend is the conference christian responsibility in an unchristian world if you want to attend.
Uh, there's a qr code there that you can quickly scan i'll leave it up so you can scan it.
A lot of people will be like hey, I don't know any of these speakers.
That's the whole reason what we're trying to do is get a conference where a lot of the speakers aren't these celebrity
speakers.
Uh, but they're all outstanding excellent speakers so that folks would hear some great
talks.
And we're covering a wide variety of topics.
I mean it's going to be a packed Uh event so I want to encourage you guys to come on out to that.
You can go to striving fraternity .org and we have a banner page for that.
So if you can make it out there, uh, it will be very good for you, uh.
To see so, uh here we got fatima from philippines matt.
This is one of the folks that when I was out of the philippines got to to know.
She says great show andrew.
Good stuff to see more of matt slick's work.
I thought he didn't do well in Cessationist debate though.
He's better with the history stuff.
Ha ha ha ha.
So at least one person agreed with my my uh position, but I think she came into that debate agreeing.
We we did make one.
I think I made one fatal mistake in in that debate but talking.
No, that was the the idea of saying that the the loser Was going to
have to sing to ed.
Happy birthday and and people agreed that they wanted you less to sing.
So that's for sure people people decided you won the debate i'm going is it because they wanted to hear matt
less than me.
Was that I can't sing.
I cannot sing.
I am so bad at it.
My voice sounds like this when I sing except off key.
It's it's horrible.
You know my my daughter who's one of my daughters very very very very good singer.
And uh, we're driving one day.
She said dad.
Could you really sing?
I want to hear what you sound like.
It's no you.
No, you don't you gotta be honest.
I said no it's look it's not gonna be good.
She goes.
No, I really wanted I said you for real.
She goes.
Yeah.
She's okay.
You serious?
He goes.
Yeah, I should only do this once she goes.
Yeah, I want to hear so I said, okay I'll give you five seconds.
So I sang for five seconds dead serious best I could.
She paused for 10 seconds didn't say anything looked at me and said.
Was that for real?
I said Said yes, and she said Aye -aye -aye -aye -aye.
I just never forgot that I started laughing.
She speaks some hebrew.
Because I yeah, I told you you were kidding.
Yeah, it's pretty bad.
Can you can you sing for us for five seconds?
Oh, no, no.
No, that's that's okay.
We don't want to get uh banned off the internet permanently.
No, I I think it would be it'd be nice.
I think I.
Do you guys do you guys want to hear matt sing not happening?
Let's see a yes or no whether you want to hear matt sing and uh, um.
No, I don't do that.
In fact, even when i'm in church, I don't sing.
I don't sing because i'm just that bad and uh.
What I will if i'm by myself and then it's just enough so I don't have to hear it.
Uh, well.
Fado says maybe you can rap instead of sing.
Oh, yeah, there you go.
That's sometimes when i'm working on something and hit my toe.
So.
All right.
Well, let's let's just I i'll bring this up.
Uh, give me a moment here uh matt i'll give you one of my.
Your hate mail that I got.
Oh, yeah.
What you think of that?
Uh.
It's it may not be as good as the the hate mail you get but let's see.
Um, all right.
So you gotta wonder about matt that he likes hate mail though, but oh it's awesome.
It's awesome.
Enjoy it though.
Maybe teach how to enjoy it.
Yeah.
All right.
So, uh here here's an email that I got some time ago.
Um.
Hello andrew, I listen to you all the time.
I watch your program every week but you are a Liar and
never say anything.
That's true.
Everything you do is a pack of lies.
Why don't you just stop everything you do?
Well matt on your reading.
Well, how is that for some hate mail.
Good.
See the look.
Okay.
I gotta help you out here.
Now when you get an insult, one of the things you want to look for is clarity of thought.
Succinctness and then and an attempt at an accurate delivery.
I think that's pretty good.
That's at least a five.
At least a five.
Okay, so there were several very succinct points there.
Uh, you're a liar.
Okay, and uh, you never speak the truth.
Uh, just a pack of lies.
And just stop doing it now.
See.
I appreciate those kinds of insults those kinds of Declarations the person is now
imposing his value upon me because everything I say is a lie.
And so how could it be that everything I say is a lie since i'm saying i'm on the radio and i'm reading this guy's stuff.
And i'm reading it.
Is that a lie, too?
I don't know.
Maybe you can help me out.
You just gotta have fun with it.
You start going and go that's a good one.
That really is nice and never speak the truth never.
Then why am I staying with me?
Why how do I sign a bill?
How do I how do I pay this?
Never.
I mean, come on.
Maybe.
He does not have all his Uh paws in the litter box.
There's some issues there.
It's quantum tunneling doesn't work.
Yeah.
Well the thing my response to him was actually.
Well, i'm glad you continue listening every week.
I mean the first thing that hit me was he listens every week.
But everything I say is a lie.
Everything you say is a lie.
That's right.
See.
I like pulse.
Quasars, uh in it's unique and you know stars that pulse when they're in sync.
Quasar doesn't pulse, you know.
I love those things.
Pulsars and pulsing.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean it you're right in the fact that was quite succinct.
I I thought it was just funny in the fact that he says he listens to everything I do.
And yet.
And just stop.
I've gotten the same kind of emails.
I mean there's variations of it.
In fact uh, I was so Discouraged by the lack of quality of the
insults That I wrote a page an article on how to insult me.
I actually wrote 10 insults.
They started off rather mundane and they got to the more sophisticated.
They're grammarly correct.
They have it not too many invectives in there.
You can't be a pejorative, but you got to be insulting and intellectual.
So I just said one through ten and they get longer more sophisticated.
And I I said just pick which one you like and then email me a number whatever it is.
Literally, someone said to me.
I don't like you insults.
One through ten.
I wrote back well said.
I I don't know if you remember years ago.
I had an app on my phone.
It was a shakespearean insulter and I didn't tell matt about this for years.
But I would every day I would I would send I'd you get an insult and send
matt the a Shakespearean insult so it sounded very high and lofty and yet it was an
insult that'd be like Wait a minute that that was an insult.
That's right.
It was great.
You remind me there's uh, three little pigs like you've never heard them before this guy does.
Uh, three little pigs with shakespearean style.
It is so good.
Oh, yeah, so good.
Oh, yeah, you you gotta watch it.
It's just well done.
Very entertaining.
And in fact i'll put put it in right here in the in the text.
Uh, it's easy to find but it was thoroughly enjoyable the way he was doing it.
And um, there it is.
Okay, so it is it's on youtube.
Yeah, and you type in Three little pigs like you've never heard uh before.
Brian john branion.
Gotcha.
Yeah.
Okay, I will have to check that out.
It was fun it was enjoyable just like that, you know.
You know, I would go to hear him do nothing.
But I would pay to go to here and do nothing but uh tails, you know, like the little red biting hood.
Whatever it is all the stuff.
Uh that way, you know all of that.
I'll close with this i'll close with this and say so I had I had a guy I.
You know that he was telling me how the black preachers preach in a cadence.
And he was saying that.
Uh basically.
Uh, you he has he was saying it doesn't matter what you say.
It's about the cadence.
And and you'll hear like even barack obama used to used to give speeches with that kind of cadence.
Kamala harris right now is starting the same thing and it's it's a mesmerizing type of cadence.
And he said I could preach a nursery rhyme and people who are used to the black
churches.
Would would know to say amen at the right moments.
And i'm like how would you preach a nursery rhyme.
And literally we're we're in this missionary housing in the in the.
Um.
You know in the the lobby.
And so he starts preaching little miss muffet.
She's sad on her tuffet.
And he's not with the that kind of cadence and literally this woman Walks
through the lobby and goes amen brother preach it.
And I just stopped I'm looking at him.
He looks at me and goes Told you I mean just some random woman is walking through.
And she's just and she's saying amen.
I'm like I'm, like do you even know what he was saying?
He was preaching a nursery rhyme.
But amen, brother keep reading.
Yikes.
Well, i'm trying to find a black church.
The black preacher does a little cadence, but he's calvinist.
Oh.
Well with that folks, uh, go go check out karm .org we were we've played we've uh showed you two of
the the Articles written.
Okay.
They were political articles, but Uh, there's a ton of other theological articles out there.
Uh, I I should say with full disclosure. I used to be on the board of directors at karm .org.
So, uh, I don't think that makes me biased in any way.
Uh, it means that I fully supported the ministry for many many years before that and
uh.
And and that's why they asked me to be on the board.
So, uh, but I still support them even when i'm not on the board.
So, uh, it's a great ministry great work being done there.
Go check out their articles karm .org.
So matt, thanks for coming on.
I thought I think it was helpful folks, uh in what we got coming up for you guys next week.
Um, maybe matt will jump in.
I won't be here because I will be at the conference, uh, but Drew will be doing a show his
his title will be calling down.
Holy fire.
Judging teachers and open q a so, uh, i'm sure he's going to get into some bethel
music maybe and things like that.
Um.
You know, so, uh the week after that the 15th august 15th.
Uh, we will have an atheist that I debated in dallas, texas.
Uh bill he's going to come in and Just understand.
This is this is the title we're going to discuss and I want you to remember this is with an atheist.
But the the title the the topic will be have atheists gone too far with bill
cleck.
Bill is someone who loves justin peter's ministry.
He he loves the work that justin's doing.
He loves the work that i'm doing.
He thinks it's great and he's an atheist.
He loves when we call out benny hinn and these others.
And so he actually thinks that some of the atheists have gone too far in criticizing christianity.
That should be a good discussion following that on on august 22nd.
We're going to have the godless grandma.
Uh.
She is uh, kelly parcell.
Piercell, she is coming in.
Uh, she had a video she did criticizing uh, layton flowers on
his argument on god's sovereignty human responsibility.
And as an atheist she had pointed out problems.
She claims she used to be a christian.
I'm sure we're going to address that uh, april august 22nd and Uh, she
she'll come in and I told her that I think I can resolve the issue of human responsibility and god's
sovereignty for her.
So.
Um.
We will do that On august 29th.
I'm going to have john harris from conversations that matter come in.
We're going to discuss a video that one of you sent me To review and I figured it'd be good with him because
someone is criticizing.
This is supposedly a christian pastor preaching a sermonette.
I'm saying that because well, it may not have been a pastor, but he was preaching for his pastor who was who was away
and uh.
It's hard for me to call it a sermon, but we'll review that 20 minute.
I think it was about 20 minute message.
Uh and look at what he talks about Christian nationalism and his view of it and we'll
address that.
Uh, so it should be quite interesting now in all of september what we'll do.
September's episodes are going to be devoted to some counseling topics and it may go
past september.
We'll see but the topics we plan to cover is In this order we're going to cover
communication anger marriage parenting anxiety depression money and sexual
sins.
And we're going to have our two speakers at striving fraternity aaron brewster who many of you here know you've seen him.
And also our other speaker anthony russo who both of them are acbc counselors.
We'll also have my pastor and his wife who both of them are also acbc counselors.
So we're going to be dealing with these topics from a counseling perspective.
So if you do have questions in any of those areas.
My encouragement to you is to let us know make sure that you join us those weeks for your
questions.
But you can email us your questions if you want info at striving for eternity .org.
So that we could get those questions make sure they're in for that.
So info at striving for eternity .org.
And so with that we're going to end the show and just remind you all To strive to make today an eternal day
for the glory of god, and we'll see you next week.
And thanks matt.
Okay, thanks for having me on god bless.