Matt Slick - What political party would the Antichrist belong to?

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Weren't you gonna call it something else? Yeah. Christian research apologetics people.

But I guess I guess that acronym crap doesn't really work, yeah.

We're gonna do you know, like Christian research apologetic ministry, but it'd be cram, you know, we had a couple. I just Perfectly honest here. I had no clue what to call it. And the only reason I called it that was because the reason I started karm Was simply because I got tired of writing this team answer out to people in different discussion areas.

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You know. Talking to the history of that folks may not know how we came up with striving for eternity. Originally, my plan was to call the ministry eternal perspectives because that was the the thinking of it was that we should have an eternal perspective on life and I was going.

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And I had been signing my emails striving for eternity, so that's that's what I ended up doing. That's how the name ended up. But I'm not striving for it. I already have it. Yeah. Well, that's why you should go to it because this is for believers.

It's not an evangelist for believers. See first John 5 13. These things are written. So you may know you have. Yeah, eternal life. Yeah.

Got it.

It's actually more out of Colossians 3 that we should, you know have eternity, you know having eternity, you know in our minds above all things, but The specifically the the verse 2 which says set your mind on things above and not on things of earth.

But it's it's really if you think of the quote John Edwards is most known for the quote, but it's not actually originally with original with him. I had.

Had.

Did some research figure out who originally it was with but I don't know I don't remember the name anymore. But it's but it's that you should have eternity stamped on the inners of your eyelids so that when you close your eyes It's eternity that you see.

That's a long way for a bad kind of it, yeah, but that's a kind of stuff I would do so.

But it's it's a good thinking. It's so you have an article that you recently came out and I I was like. That is interesting. Let's let's see if we could discuss that and I should I should mention that Last week.

I did get some folks who last week we talked about the assassination attempt on Donald Trump's life we got a lot of feedback a lot of people thought that was very good very helpful the Balanced approach that Chris Han holds and I had with that I think that a lot of people appreciated that.

Appreciated some of the insight that with Chris's background in law enforcement my background with the federal government provided some some good insights for people and. One thing that we got response that someone thought that we didn't handle.

Well was the fact that people thought that we did not address that Donald Trump's turning of the head was a divine Miracle and so Figured let me let me address that. To be clear on it. I don't think it was a divine miracle.

I don't think it was a miracle because God didn't do anything supernatural in that instance. What God did was what could happen at him? We all turn our heads all the time. Look Matt just did it. That wasn't supernatural, right?

So.

It was you know, a divine intervention intervention a lot of people are saying well I don't know that it was divine intervention either. It was what I would put in the theological category of Providence and There is divine providence, but divine providence is not miraculous divine.

Providence is not Out of the ordinary. It's the way God works with his creation. He God holds every single atom in its place. You can you can look at Colossians chapter 1 on that 15 to 17 but Everything's held in place by God by Christ.

So in a sense you if you want to say that then everything that happens is is divine intervention. Because you know, why did God want Trump to be alive? Yes. How do I know that. Because Trump's alive? It's really that simple.

So.

The the thing that we're looking at is was it something supernatural? Was it miraculous? Was it God intervening? I don't think so. It was God doing what he does in his Providence. Matt I don't know if you have any any thoughts about the the.

You know I'm looking at the comments that I just your comment, you know, I did see that Andrew from Australia says Matt owes Andrew too many dinners lol and I guess you decided to respond with. Which was very true.

I got Andrew great on with the dinner on the hundredth show and folks if you haven't watched this is like episode 252 I think but go back to episode 100 Where we had a whole bunch of apologists in and Matt got me back for buying him too many dinners and it was epic.

He's always beaten me it's ridiculous. And then. The last time we were in Salt Lake just a few weeks ago. In Spanish, I'm telling the people restaurant is telling don't let him pay blah blah blah and I give the card.

I go to get some ice. He steals my card and.

You you walked around the corner to use the restroom. What you couldn't see was what I did was I turned to the lady and I pointed up to the the menu that they have All the pictures so she would turn and look and as she turned I reached over just grabbed your card.

Which you went to Bay there was no card there anymore. So I just gave her mine and she's looking. I went. I held it up. And as I'm holding it up to her you walk around the corner, so I just turned.

Yeah, it's okay, but I got you good on the hundred so you did.

Yeah, that was epic.

It was really good. So so any any thoughts you had. I actually haven't heard if you you spoke any on the assassination attempt of Trump.

No people have asked me if it was a miracle or not. I say there's no way to know. It could have been that God did something. It could be that God didn't do something in his Providence. You can set it up how we define as a miracle.

Who knows? Did God cause? Thought in his brain to move and he turned his head possible. Did God cause something to happen? Who knows but Maybe just just one of those things and God's Providence and that was it.

So I think I think and I'll just pose this to you and see what your thought is. I think that when we see miracles at least in Scripture Everybody knows it's an act of God that it's miraculous. There's not a question of is that a miracle?

Is that not a miracle? So extrapolating from that. I assume that if God does something miraculous everyone's gonna look at and go that's a miracle.

America would have been like he's sitting there and Five shots into his chest and all of them just stop right at his chest fall down and he's got no vest on. That would have been a miracle. Yeah, that's a miracle, but Just turning your head at the right time I mean how many times that we've done something in life where we miss something because we look left look right accelerated decelerated.

You know, it's just whatever and I just say well All in God's Providence. Let's move on. That's all correct.

And that's why I think it is important for us to have proper categories for theology because We don't want to. This is on you emphasize at calm org. The precision in theology is important. I mean how many I'm waiting for you to get precise I am I'm just waiting for you to.

You'll get there eventually in eternity. But oh, thank you I mean look even RC Spole agrees with me today. What do you say. Well because he's now in heaven so all his theology is corrected so he agrees.

Yes, the pride part is still there too, but that's okay.

You're the one that's very proud of your humility. That's Bill McKeever said that.

From Bill McKeever.

Something else.

Bill McKeever is with Mormon Research Ministries and so. So, yeah, so let's let's get into the discussion here folks who are watching. I'll encourage you guys to share this episode what you're watching right now on social media.

Let others know especially if you get some value out of this now Matt. This is your your screen up here. So this is the article one. Just go to the top of it quickly. So people can see that the full title and this is what we're gonna refer to is and this is an article Matt put out.

What political party with the Antichrist Belong to. And and first I want to ask you what made you think of this as a article.

To be honest, I don't know. I don't know. I'm serious. I was talking to some people about stuff. Whatever. I don't like a Democratic Party and I think we're talking about Democratic Party, you know, it's bad bad bad, you know.

It is and I. It's.

The Antichrist, what party would he. So I that's what I think that would happen. And then I wrote it and it's been well-received so far, but actually Joanne she works with me. She said something about I could scroll up it got banned.

Warned or something like that on a really on one of the social media probably Facebook.

It was Facebook, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised even Andrew from down under in Australia. He says the Antichrist would belong to the demon cratic.

Party.

So even down under they understand our politics well.

Yeah, better than we do apparently. Yeah, you know, so I don't see what it was. Yeah, but I think it was Facebook. Anyway, yeah, well X has been a lot better for.

You know for sharing news for sharing things without it getting censored. I find it very interesting that Joe Biden. Well, whoever whoever announced Joe Biden's retirement from from the election.

I.

Would I'd hate that. I'd love to have seen what it was like actually. When Joe Biden woke up in the morning and found out he resigned. Yeah. Yeah surprise interesting. They did it on X. Right, they didn't go to one of their you know more supportive platforms, but.

So so if we look at this article In examining it, what would be.

What was?

What were the basis of what party you think that could be and why. Which one and why. Well?

You know, I've studied the Antichrist before and I've you know I go into discord a lot and I have discussions with people and I like to go into the rooms where the atheists are and Sometimes I'll go into rooms that are trans this trans that LGBTQ this or that Sector politics.

I'll go in and just listen and because they know who I am. A lot of times. I'll just start asking me questions and So I was nodding on the Democratic Party a while back and reading some of the stuff from the history of the Democratic Party.

Which is an article I wrote a long time ago Back in 22 and So I have like the history of it, which you know, you go through some of this stuff, but it's the party of slavery Jim Crow laws abortion homosexuality socialism Etc. Etc.

It is a I'm going to say it's a piece of crap denominate not a nomination but Political party and and I say that my radio show I don't think that any true Christian who knows his faith and knows that Democratic Party states.

But it can be a Democrat. It cannot be you. I don't understand how that's possible. Because it is it is an Antichrist Party, I think the discussion that's what I it hit me write an article on what the Antichrist would be.

And so. Make it a little bit larger there. That's all right.

And so if you scroll down what I did was I went to the policies of the Antichrist and You know image that you created for it too, yeah, I did that in them. Yeah with AI inside of discord, but it's really pro LGBTQ because Apparently, it's gonna be homosexual because it says in Daniel 1137 He will show no regard for the gods of his father or for the desire of women.

Well, okay, then that means he's going to be pro homosexual. He's going to be pro LGBTQ. It's not a stretch to say that.

So.

Abortion. All right. Well the Antichrist activity will be in accord with Satan second Thessalonians 2 nines. Right there. That's what the Bible says and Jesus said in John 8 44 That Satan's a murderer from the beginning.

Well, simple logic if a equals B and B will see an a equals C. So Since he will have no desire of the gods of his father.

And.

To be homosexual he's all that's against scripture. His Arrival be in the accordance with Satan who was a murderer. So he's going to be pro abortion. He's going to want to kill The babies. It's just that's what Democratic Party does.

In fact a few nights ago, I'd really get animated when I'm talking to people about abortion. I it's one of the things I just lose my cool kind of over. I call them womb scrapers baby killers. Oh, I just attack them.

I say no man should be able to be like this. You guys get your get your Get your pleasure make the woman pay for it. They kill the baby. I talk to the women in the rooms. I say and you just kill your babies and you want to say it's just it's not human.

I just go. I go into. I really do and and nevertheless, so the Antichrist he's going to be a man of death and abortion is the ultimate death of the so to speak innocent and It's done by the hands of the evil people.

So there's that and then also He's gonna support a one-world government.

Before we get to that, you know when we think about abortion and a lot of people don't think about this. People are against slavery and yet, they're for abortion and Abortion is there's no fundamentally no difference between saying this is my property and this is my body.

Both of them are ownership issues. And when you did your debate with David Smalley, I'll play a clip from that debate that when I asked my question because The whole debate you had on David Smalley he was addressing the issue that.

You know slavery is wrong. Slavery is in the Bible that makes it immoral and. And and that was your debate. What was whether you know The the God of the Bible could exist and is moral, right? And and so I ended up asking him one question.

And because if you remember that you went you debated David Smalley one night and Matt Delhunty the next night. So I've always said you're nuts. You do two different debates two different people. Like what were you thinking?

Yeah, um, well it wasn't so easy with Matt Delhunty if you remember you suddenly just. Just you were there. Yeah just before Matt. When Matt Delhunty gets up to start his opening you suddenly looked at me and you're like I'm feeling sick.

This was outside you remember it was outside. I just told someone this recently Yeah, we're outside and all of a sudden I started getting super sleepy and I mean Sleepy so sleepy that if I'd have put my head down on the pavement, but I laid down I'd have been out in two three four seconds.

I was having so much trouble staying awake. I couldn't believe it. I remember that so clearly someone got me a cup of coffee someone this it prayed a whole bit I'm just looking like I don't know what happened.

It was like it was a chemical problem on my body. I've never had to happen before since and then when we got in there because we all prayed. We got in there and I'm at the back table and and Delhunty went up.

He's speaking first. I had my laptop. I still remember this. I remember thinking do not close your eyes and lay your head down. You'll be out and I remember so clearly just focusing. Oh, what am I gonna do?

How's it gonna be? So finally for 20 minutes, he's he's there and I'm just oh I could go to sleep. I started walking up and by the time I got to the stage. I was wide awake.

Yeah, and and you were sitting there was a guy that tried coming out. You're you're trying to focus and Pay attention when Matt's saying in his in his opening because you got to give a response in in the rebuttal.

And you're just sitting there showing there was some guy that wanted to come talk to you and I'm like I was playing bouncer then because I was just like I. Just basically what the guy that an atheist wants to come talk to you and I just stopped him like look, dude.

He's paying he's got to pay attention that you know this is part of the debate just. You know. But you didn't want to go up there and sit up there because you were just like item. I'm not something's weird wrong.

Well, we we had met these guys before and talked to them and I remember talking to Dave. They'll hunty because most of his argument was gonna be on. You know the issue of slavery and I asked this question of Dave Mr. Smalley, do you believe that abortion is moral?

Oh boy. And the reason he had that reaction was because he knew that abortion was a slavery issue. We already talked about it before the debate his whole argument to you Matt was God's not moral. But if he agrees to abortion if he says that like he wants to say that's not a moral issue.

If he says God is not moral then he has no moral standing by what you can say God is or is not right or. Plus he has to have a universal standard of morality by which you can then judge whether God is right or wrong.

Third there's an issue of slavery in the Bible that he's not aware of. There is no equivalent to chattel slavery in the Old Testament. It's all kind of stuff. Yeah, and.

Yeah, so when we talk about Abortion which is one of the issues you have here. Remember this is also a form of slavery as well. So when when the world wants to talk about you know With the Antichrist be more supportive of slavery or not.

If you're supportive of abortion then you are you are Agreeing to the underlying argument for slavery. It's an ownership issue of another human being.

Don't forget he's gonna be a politically savvy gentleman. So what will happen is he probably will pick the politically correct view in a lot of areas so he'll probably publicly say slavery is wrong and Stuff like that.

He'll probably do that. But you know in his heart, he's a liar and a deceiver.

So we'll just say, you know when he comes around. How do you know a guy. Maybe maybe it's a woman.

Yeah, that would be interesting. But if that's the case and the Bible would say it's male Then but it said it wouldn't have any regard for women. So it's got to be a male figure and I believe the reason is because the Antichrist is going to imitate Christ.

The Antichrist will imitate the true Jesus because Jesus was killed and rose. Well, there's going to be a type of death and resurrection of the Antichrist. He's gonna be wounded his right eye right arm will be withered that symbolizes his right the right side and Is the side of salvation left his judgment?

So the right side is withered which means he has none. He has no good judgment. He has no good strength. He's evil. That's why it's gone from him. That's what the symbolism is there but. Anyway, yeah, so he's gonna want to one-world government and which political party do you know of.

Supports one-world governments. It's let's see. Which one is they made the claim that that was what George W Bush was trying to do.

He was part of a group in the skull and bones. That's what they were saying. Oh, he's trying to. He's gonna be part of the one-world government. He did talk about Things that they would use to say see see see he's part of one world government.

Maybe yes.

Well, I don't. You know, I don't. He's not the end of Christ. Yeah, I'm not a Republican or Democrat. I think the Democrats on the scale from 1 to 10 10 being crap. They're at a 10 and the Democrat. I mean the Republicans are probably at a 5 or 6.

You know, I look I like how damn damn Bon Jovi says it if you ever listen to him. He says, you know, the Republicans are not the solution to all your problems. But the Democrats are the cause of all your problem.

Yeah, that's a good way to put it not the solution to but the Democrats are the cause. The Democratic Party is socialistic communistic Marxist Oppressives and it wants to confiscate people. It wants to censor them.

It wants to force Morality on people according to their views homosexuality the alphabet mob. It wants to have compliance and want to get rid of our weapons so that they can be in control. This is the demonic movement.

It is demonic.

So what scriptures we look at that supports that the Antichrist would support a one-world government? Well, it's right there.

Because it says Revelation 13 7 is given to him to make war on the Saints with the Saints and overcome them. That's a whole nother topic and authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation was given to him.

And then he provides it no one be able to buy or sell except those who receive the mark of his name. So in Revelation 13 7 and 17. That's where the one-world government comes in and we know that the Democratic Party a piece of crap Democratic Party.

They wanted one world government issue. They you know open their borders. Let everybody come in. They don't need a national language we don't need to have submit themselves to The United Nations let the United Nations Court be the ones in control of us selling our land to foreign powers.

And things like this. This is going on a Democratic Party. In fact, I've said it over the radio many times I believe the Democratic Party can be likened to a terrorist organization. Seriously, it is Bad, it is bad.

I don't see how any Christian can know knowingly know the Democratic Party stands for and Also be a Christian. I don't see how those could be consistent.

You know, it's very interesting if I'm finding that if I was to post something that's true about Kamala Harris like the fact that I posted recently, you know the question of how do you have someone that's Jamaican plus Indian equals African American and the response from professing Christians is Well JD Vance is you know, and I'm like wait.

What's that what anything to do with JD Vance like they were like well JD Vance was an atheist who suddenly becomes Catholic who's married To someone who was Hindu and wants to raise the children. Can do it nothing do it.

Yeah, it's Kamala, right? It's like well, okay. So what like, you know, it's it's like they can't see these are professing Christians. They can't see you post anything about the Democrats without bashing the Republicans and I'm like what makes a Christian like Is is there some untrue about what what I posted about Kamala Harris?

And actually if we get time at the end Matt I saved some hate mail because I figured on Fridays on if you listen to Matt slick live on the radio or in his Podcast which is part of the Christian podcast community on Fridays.

He usually does hate mail and kind of rates him whether they're good or bad. So I I kind of saved up some hate mail and I will see it. We'll see whether the hate me are as good in their hate mail as We could have some fun with that so hate mail is great.

So he's gonna support a one-world government you also provided Revelation 13 17 so 137 and 1317 to support your garden. How would 17 support it?

Well, you can't buy or sell unless you're under his authority. That means everywhere because all people are all the nations. Every tribe people tongue and nation was given to him. So inside of that governmental control There's going to be a policy of submission to him.

It's a form of pseudo worship. That's what it ultimately is, but you really can't put that in there. I could have but you know, I could make a comment. It's a form of pseudo worship where he is an absolute control.

This is what the Democrats want to. Democrats want to be in control because they're more knowledgeable. They're wiser. They're better at morals and understanding than you are. So they need to tell you what to do.

This is the arrogance of the Democratic Party and the Antichrist would fit right in there. I'm not saying he'll be a Democrat. He might be a Republican for all I know. Because it's a Democratic Party is bad and the Republican Party is going bad.

Or he might create a third party or might be some somebody from Europe who knows, you know, we don't know.

So yeah, I wouldn't I actually wouldn't assume he's gonna be in the States. I I would actually assume he's somewhere from well I would make a case that at least the the the prince who is to come. Maybe not the Antichrist is gonna be from Rome because it says in Daniel he who destroyed Rome that's where the the Antichrist will come from but I think that when we we think about what you were just saying as far as the buying the selling and that they're wanting to control I Want you to think about because some folks may not think this through you look at what happened during kovat.

During kovat you had a president Donald Trump who was letting states decide what to do so he allowed the states to decide whether they are closed or open and. The media and the Democrats were trying to push Trump to make it to do something as at a federal level.

Which the moment he did that they would have accused him of being a dictator. I Mean they they're so they're accusing of wanting to be a dictator now. Even though he allowed states to make decisions when he was in office.

When there was pressure to take complete control. He left office which they said he's never gonna let happen again. He did it before why wouldn't he like if he did it before when he thought they stole the election, why would he You know not leave office when he knows his term limits are over right but look at what the Democrats are doing right now.

They they just said there's one branch of government that they are having a great difficulty now controlling and that's the Supreme Court. They had control of it for years and now due to Trump they lost that.

And what are they doing. They want to change the structure of the of the court why. Because they want control of the court you now have a presidential candidate who no one voted for. They could have allowed for a primary in the Democrat Party.

They didn't that in fact what they did was they they moved the the The DNC their convention to where now it affects The whether they can get votes in Ohio, so what are they doing. They're voting right now today.

I don't know if you even knew that Matt, but the Democrats are voting virtually Today to vote Kamala Harris in as the candidate so that she's the candidate in time for the ballots in Ohio. But here's the thing.

Nobody actually voted for her in the primaries. They could have had a primary because they had two different people that were running Robert Kennedy jr. Who they used political means to prevent him from being able to be put on any ballots in the primaries and he now decided to run as an independent and.

Then another guy that they didn't allow to have any and they're trying to make sure that Robert Kennedy jr Doesn't get into any of the the debates or anything like that. And so they could have allowed primaries to give a different option than Joe Biden.

They didn't. So they say they're the party of democracy and that if you vote for Trump, you're ending democracy and yet they're the ones that want to Select a candidate the the their elites not the voters not the Americans.

They handpick Kamala Harris to put her in. They're not allowing a primary. They're not allowing they could go to their convention and allow for the convention to vote that there that's how it should be if It's called a contested Convention and that is in the rules.

But they're not allowing the vote right? So so as Matt was saying when they want control. Well, which party is trying to get control? You know, you have a party that is completely trying to control this election trying to arrest, you know.

They tried to bankrupt their opponent arrest their opponent. You put him in in jail there will still see if that's gonna be what they're gonna do and the and The other side is not doing any of that so I just want to say when we look at the other the argument of one world government, I Think that Matt has a good argument to be made there that which party that is.

Yeah.

Could be the Democratic Party plus which party uses deception. Well, they would say they would say the Republican Party, yeah, they're liars the Democratic Party is a bunch of friggin so. Yeah, you would I really want I want to be able to have a show on What was it?

What's the satellite network and do that? You can say anything you want. Have a show there and say I'm not pulling punches here. No, no censorship. Yeah. No, no no censorship and I would say stuff I would and I got things I was gonna say about them and They're friggin pieces of crap and the Democratic Party needs to be investigated for being terrorist organization but their filthy grubby hands are fought far too entrenched in the CIA the the the IRS and the all three branches of the government FBI.

That's right. And so they're the filth and the liars are there and I'm gonna tell you the reason that this is happening is I believe it ultimately is because The Christians aren't doing their job. The Christians aren't doing they're supposed to be doing and I just released an article today.

And we talked about on the radio on the on the nature of the rapture and stuff like this but one of the sub points in there is That if those days be not cut short No flesh would be left. Now I personally believe this.

I believe in Genesis 2 17 when God said to Adam the day that you eat of the fruit. You're gonna die. I believe he's speaking not only to Adam but to all people and I believe that the fruit of the sin of mankind in rebellion to God will be self-destruction wages the sin is death.