EP 42 GOD'S MERCY ON AMERICA

Thanksgiving for Mercy After the Election

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Welcome, welcome panel. Hey, Jeff.

This is the day the Lord has made. Let us rejoice and be glad in it.

Here we are. Here we are. And we got a special guest today, Ivan Solero. Say hi to the audience. Hey, hi. I'm putting a little music in the background for us. Just going to start this off the live thing a little bit here.

Hey, Tim.

Greetings. How are you guys doing today? Happy to be here. Y 'all look happy.

And then I was going to say we had a secret guest, but he's got his name there. Just no face. So the man in black, Seth Brickley from Wisconsin. How are you, sir?

It's great to be with you guys. And yeah, it is a great day.

It is a great day. Hey, should I, I want to start off this video that we talked about actually. And then hopefully a couple of people log in. Why don't you guys text a few people, you know, tell them we're going on here and we're going to be live if they want to interact with us in the notes.

I mean, in the text, in the chat. So here's the video. So that's how the Trump headquarters celebrated last night when, hey, did something big happen last night, Jeff? What happened? What are we looking at here?

The Righteous Outcome of Trump's Victory

Well, it says righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people. And I think the election of Donald J. Trump was a righteous outcome because the idea that we should kill babies in the womb was put down in the name of Jesus.

I think Christian showed up. And as that song indicates, evidently people in that room have been praying just like we were.

Yeah, it's really obvious that there's a lot of believers involved in what's going on here. And you know, what do you think there, Ivan Solero? What was so impactful to you about last night's victory?

Well, I think that we saw a sense of Americana that was under conviction of what was happening, not just on the abortion front, but of course, in the cultural front, what was happening in the schools, what is happening with the transgender movement.

And when leadership started personifying this with having people who are transgender in leader positions, I think it bridged somewhat of a gap for people to say, we can't allow this anymore. We can't have our leaders that.

And I think that was a proving point that we saw yesterday, especially in rural America. They just cannot put their head around that.

Tim, what'd you think last night? What was the big impact for the Robinson family?

Blessed, whose nation, whose God is the Lord. So I think that the nation is gonna be blessed. I wanted to grab an American flag and run around the streets because Trump won. I'm gonna say if Harris won, I don't think that her supporters would have been doing that.

They're not allowed to say Jesus is Lord because they'd be at the wrong rally. I don't know what's going on with the, I couldn't see it on my screen, Joe, but are someone singing at a Trump rally?

How great they are. Yeah, that's a recording. That was after the victory speech last night after Trump announced that he had won the event. So that's, they're singing.

Well, they're all at the right rally then. So I'm happy to see that. They got to the right rally. That should be really telling that people who voted for Donald Trump, everyone who I see is happy because they wanted to see America saved.

They wanted to see America thrive. They wanted to see America do good. They love America. There's really people out there that I think hate America and want to see people in trouble. They want to see agony in people.

They want to see people sad. And it was just so depressing four years ago. And now I just see everyone's happy. It's like a relief. I haven't seen what I guess liberals and Democrats look like, but I just, I don't think that their life was, I don't think they noticed or saw how impactful it is and how what a good thing it was that Trump won.

So yeah.

Well, this just in, we got another thousand votes from Kensington, but also impactful was Wisconsin. We won Wisconsin too. Seth Brickley, what's going on from Wisconsin? And is, are you having a power outage or what's going on?

Yeah. Yeah. Having some technical difficulties here, but you guys can hear me. So I'm glad you can hear me and you can hear my voice. But yeah, Wisconsin, actually Bill Hemmer on Fox News last night, he says it's, it's the swingiest of the swing states because the vote is usually decided by less than 1%.

And so last night, or actually early in the morning, Donald Trump won by 0 .9 in Wisconsin, 30 ,000 votes over about three and a half million that were cast. You know, so, so yeah, I was looking at all the different counties and, and I was happy to see that the Western Wisconsin counties did better this time around than four years ago.

So yeah, I mean, every, every little bit counts. Yeah. So, so yeah, we're, and I was, I was telling you guys before we got on here that I've never experienced a victory, a presidential victory in my home state, right?

Cause I lived in Minnesota. And then four years ago I was in Wisconsin where Trump supposedly lost by 20 ,000 votes. So yeah, so we're we're, it's a weird feeling. It's like the Vikings winning the super bowl.

I've never experienced that, but hopefully that comes in the future too. But, but yeah, it's, it's quite the exciting feeling that I have.

I saw them lose a wild card game to the Eagles in 1980.

Oh, no. Did you, did you see him in 2017 when they lost the NFC championship?

Yeah. I don't know anything else about the Vikings. Sorry. Okay. Well listen, this was, this was a pretty historic occasion, you know, and, and listen, there was a big deal that we spent a lot of time in Kensington, Jeff.

I mean, do you feel like you, you, you, you really brought, brought the votes in, you know, in Philadelphia? I mean, I'm sure you weren't the only one out there, but we, we, you know, what, what do you think happened?

It is alleged that there were 10 ,000 flyers distributed and it is alleged that thousands of people changed their minds and conversations were had. I wonder if the black Hebrew Israelites came home to Trump, that conversation we had with them and the guys, you know what, I'm going for Trump, like go back to your people, tell your people.

But here's, what's interesting, like the vote, right? You would think that Butler, Pennsylvania, he got, he got shot there, that that would be all the difference, you know, it would be up, but it was the exact same amount that he got in 2020.

What was different in 2024 is that the inner city did not turn up for Kamala to the tune that they needed. They needed a 400 ,000 blowout in the County of Philadelphia, and they didn't get anywhere near that, fell about a hundred thousand short.

So yeah, we, we were just foot soldiers. We were not the decisive difference makers, but there were a lot of foot soldiers that multiply the more of us that, that do that. It was God, it was all God, all glory to God.

He inspired us to do this a couple of months ago. And the result I think speaks for itself, but many people had a similar leading and I just give all glory to God because this was the mercy of the Lord.

This president was shot at in Butler and the bullet missed him by that much. You're telling me this is not God delivering him by He even mentioned that last.

Night in his acceptance speech. He said, you know, some people say that it was God that.

Stopped that bullet, right? So And he said, and it's for a purpose. He's in here for a reason. And that was the Equality Act is now crushed underneath our feet in Jesus' name. The National Abortion Law, right to abortion is crushed underneath our feet in Jesus' name.

The transing of adolescence is crushed because that's what Trump ran on. There's a mandate against that stuff now. Boys competing in women's sports crushed underneath our feet. And another big one is the globalist takeover of America.

The seating of America authority over to the globalist superpower has been crushed underneath our feet because Trump is anything but a globalist. And the globalists know that. Yuval Harari, who is that right-hand man to Klaus Schwab, these globalist rulers, he said this before the election.

If Trump becomes president again in 2024, it will be the final death blow to what remains of the global order.

Wow. I love it. I love it. I want to see that come to fruition, the death blow. Hey, if anybody's got a question out there in the audience, because we are live today with Tearing Down High Places. Love to hear you.

We're keeping an eye on the chat, share your questions. I'll get those questions to the pastors. All right. What else do we got here? Ivan, what do you think about the Christian participation? You had shot out a little graphic to me.

Christian Participation, Providence, and the Public Square

Yeah. Well, before we go there, I just want to say it was a repudiation of what people believe to what this administration beforehand was doing. But even to that point, Jeff's books that he sent out earlier, and you think about God's timing, starting from two and a half years ago when he started the first one, and then he continued on, this is a complete validation of what took place.

It really, really is. And not to promote too much, but to say that people really need to go back and read what was talking about a few years ago that came to fruition now. And I think that the groundswell from this was kind of a bellwether for people to really take a step back and think about where does God want me to be at this point, at this time?

What happens? Not looking at the past now, and not looking too much at the future, just right now. And you know, Jeff hit it with those books. We saw the repercussions of it from what happened at the EFCA.

But America came out and said what they believe. And I think there's a great opportunity for us in terms of ministry and evangelism and all that to really talk about God's sovereignty and providence of how things work.

And I think that that takes more of a front and center than just the fact that Donald Trump now has been put in place.

You can't promote Jeff enough, Ivan, because he won't do it himself. I think it's because instead of promoting himself, he just goes and writes another book. He's up to 12 or 13 now, I don't know. Another one just came out.

Well, I appreciate you saying that. All it is,.

Is that time and truth walk hand in hand. When you tell the truth over time, it's validated. This is Isaiah speaking. I think it's in chapter 54, maybe verse 21, 17, somewhere in there. He talks about vindicating those who stand for the truth.

And no weapon formed against you shall prosper, but he will vindicate. And time and truth walk hand in hand. But you know what? Evangelicals for Harris, that aged like milk. They're a problem. They're such a problem.

And I don't think we're going to have to keep an eye on this. I don't think we have good data right now. We got to keep an eye on what the participation was for Christians, because if it wasn't big enough, that hurts our seat at the table.

And that is what we're called to do. We're called to bring truth to the world, right? Called to shine a light on the world. And how do you shine a light if you don't have a seat at the table? Because you're not relevant.

You're not participating.

Get out there and participate. There's really good news coming out of New Jersey. And that is the Republicans tried to put up a gay, a so-called married, it's a mirage, gay man who is pro-choice to be the Republican senator.

And so evangelicals like myself did not vote for him, even though he had an R next to his name. And he lost New Jersey by nine points. Trump only lost by 4 .9. So the margin was almost double. That sends a message to the Republican establishment that won't listen to us, that you'd better listen to evangelicals or else you have no chance at all in New Jersey.

But think about this, that New Jersey was only lost by 4 .9. It was 16 points just four years ago. We are closing the gap. And that's with the flight of conservatives to Florida. So Florida takes all of our conservative families during COVID and they go just bright red because that's a wonderful thing.

But here in New Jersey, we were left with not as many conservatives and yet we still close the gap. I think that's a testament to some of the South Jersey pastors that have been speaking. All of us were speaking out about this, all of the conservative ones.

And the result is I think New Jersey is tightening. We're not there yet. But wow, if that's not an encouraging night for New Jersey, I don't know what is.

Yeah, the New Jersey Republicans need to talk to you. They need to come on the show and sit down and have a conversation because they are really bad at the New Jersey Republican leadership. Maybe we get some new leadership in there.

I like to say, Joe, can I make one last point?

Yeah, please do. I think another seismic difference that happened here was the propaganda machine started to fall apart. And Musk said last night, and he summed it up perfectly, where he said that you, the American people, are the media now, not the other way around.

And that kind of, it's coming through. So shows like this, other people are coming together and they're sharing God's truth. And it was almost coming across like news because it's so relevant to today's narrative that that's going to start taking hold more and more.

And I think that the past few years, we started seeing that again, another groundswell of podcasting and everything is starting to take hold with people. And they're listening to that more and putting more faith in that comparative to what the major news networks have been doing.

What do you think, Seth, in Wisconsin? Is that what you're seeing? The same thing.

Ivan's talking about? Yeah. Yeah. In Wisconsin, like Jeff said, we do have people leaving for Florida. Not as much as Minnesota. Minnesota has really flocked to Florida in large numbers. But I do, I'm encouraged by some of the friendships I have with some pastors.

It does feel like pastors are getting more vocal. I think that the lie of pietism is being exposed. And it's such a horrible thing because Satan loves pietism, if we can, if we are silent, if the church is silent, then he can just do whatever he wants in our communities.

And it's gotten so bad over the last four years. I think more and more pastors are like, okay, we got to say something. So I hope it increases. It's still honestly kind of pathetic. I mean, I still feel like most pastors don't hardly say anything at all.

But we do need to speak out. We do need to speak on these things. I preached a sermon, an election sermon recently, where I explained biblically and constitutionally that every pastor has every right and should be doing this speaking clearly on the things of our day.

Right. So to these political issues, because if churches get out and vote, if Christians get out and vote, the communists can't take over our country. Think about that. No, they can't. Because the most anti-communist book in the world is the Bible.

Are there any communist Christians? Seth, are there any communist Christians out there?

Oh, that's an oxymoron. I mean, there's false teachers who oppose us Christians who are communists, but yeah.

Well, wasn't Jesus a socialist? Isn't it the same thing? Yeah. Being sarcastic there, brother. So I got to give credit to the little joke on the bottom there to Dave Wilson, my favorite Tin Hat warrior, brother in Christ.

So that's just too good. I loved it. So Seth, you say, we're talking pronouns now. I'm sorry to cut you off there. I wanted to go to, if you guys want to, Jeff, you talked about earlier, all the things we avoided.

You just talked a little bit about what Trump is going to do. Why don't we do that round robin you were talking about? Start talking about what we avoided.

What the Election Helped Prevent

Yes. Let's go to Tim Robinson first. We haven't heard from him yet. Yeah. Tim, what did we avoid? No one to skip over me for some reason. No, all I was going to say was, I don't know if it was someone from Wisconsin or one of our fans.

I'm not sure. Someone wrote, I saw in the chat that TDHP should be invited to the White House for their work in Philadelphia. I mean, I couldn't agree more. We're not going to get that kind of clout. If we did get invited to the White House, you know what we would say is just to God be the glory.

It was God that worked through us. But I was going to ask Jeff, he has that paper that we used, the flyer, just to put that up there to see what we were sending out. I don't know if that's a good idea.

If you have an extra one or they all went out, maybe they all went out. We left them all on the street. But hey, that flyer went out and who knows how much that multiplied where it might've hit 10 ,000 people, but those 10 ,000 people might've told another 20 ,000 people.

Then the TDHP viewership went up right at the right time. One of our videos went 60 ,000 views or whatever. I like to think that we made a difference and God used us to make a difference. I'm just thankful for that and just happy to be a part of TDHP, but also just Kingdom work.

I was just so amazed. Yeah, that flyer was fire. That flyer was fire. We had immigration, inflation, and assassination. And we gave people a handle to say, this is why it matters so much that you go and vote.

So Joe, back to circling around, circle around like Jen Psaki here. We're going to circle back and we're going to say, what did we avert? Yeah, what did we avert? I'll go first and then everybody else throw something out.

I'm going to go with the Equality Act. And I know this is dear to your heart, Joe, but this victory was so good for the church. Instead of having censorship on what we can say in our counseling sessions with someone who's struggling with same-sex attraction, so-called, or I guess it is being same-sex attracted, we can now, as we would have anyway, we can tell them the full truth of the gospel, preach the whole counsel of God without fear of going to jail.

But instead of fear of going to jail, which we wouldn't have feared anyway, as MacArthur said, you just start a prison ministry if that happens. Instead, we have an example in a president of somebody who fights.

I think we don't, I understand that we shouldn't celebrate the egotistical aspects. And people talk about how Trump has these personal characteristics that are less than admirable. Granted. But don't forget, this man had courage.

I've never seen a person take a bullet and stand up and his instinctual reaction is to say, fight, fight, fight, and to show the people that he's not down for the count. And how much lawfare that he endured, how many things that the left threw at him, not because he actually was any of those things, but because they opposed really us.

Trump was standing in the way of their attack on us, the church. So the Equality Act was a real thing that by God's grace, he used this Cyrus of a man, this Persian King Cyrus to interpose and put to death the Equality Act and many things like it.

And instead of that, we have the model of a person who will fight the left, who will not stand for that kind of thing. And hopefully that will embolden us to actually be stronger and louder for the sake of truth and freedom.

But then ultimately, and most importantly, for the sake of the gospel. I got to comment on that a little bit.

Because you do. Yeah, that is, that is near dear to my heart. And it's because I don't want to see y 'all go to jail. I just got you pastors a couple of years ago. I'm real excited to be here at and I, you know, I don't, I mean, it's really, it's crazy.

People don't realize y 'all, you know, not only you, but any of us, we, none of us could open up our Bible and actually be able to share God's wisdom with someone who was struggling in certain situations.

But there is another real thing that's actually, I'd love to see Trump do something, you know, about this, but in New Jersey, if you're, if you're now not a psychology fan, but if you are a Christian psychologist, which is not always an oxymoron, you, you cannot, you, you can lose your license.

If you do that same kind of counseling today, you know, I mean, we're not out there promoting Christian psychology, but those people are shut down. They can't share scripture. It's evil. And yeah, I'm glad you brought that up.

So who's next on the, on the round Robin here, Tim, did you want to, do you.

Want to say what we avoided? Well, who's next is Ivan. So we'll go to him. Then me, if that's cool.

With you, Joe. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I think one of the, I think one of the most important things that was done was the redefinition of crime and punishment, which Trump said and, and, and said what was going to happen.

We we've spent the last four years getting away from that and, and actually coalescing to whatever took place takes place considering the open borders, considering crimes in the city. People were being let out.

People were being allowed to do whatever they want to do. And there was mayhem all over. And Trump came in there and said, no, this is a crime. This got to be stopped. This has to be stopped under my watch.

This is going to happen. And I think that that kind of jumpstart the sort of the person to have a little, a little more boldness than what they had before that they actually can say something like this and say, you do this, this is what's going to happen.

And, and I, all of a sudden I started seeing that, that seed of doubt that was there before starting to really move away, that people were actually saying, this guy's really going to do, if he's going to do it, then I'm going to do it.

And, and it gets back to what, what, what Jeff was just talking about with the whole Cyrus analogy is that there, there's something above the personality of Trump that really was God led. And, and you can't put your finger on it, but you know that anyone who's a believer in Christ knows this is not just a usual thing that this happens.

Somebody who's just, you know, just puffing his chest out and saying something, there was something that is God led and what's going to happen. And I think believers started to pick up on that and started to see that.

And the whole crime and punishment thing was really a kickstart of everything that was going to happen. So that's, you're talking.

About his, his, his faithfulness to do what he promises. We, you know, I think I've heard a lot of people say that it's, it's not that I, not that I agree with every policy he has, but when he says he's going to do something, I do trust that he's going to do it.

Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

All right. Who's next, Tim? I'm up Joe. First of all, I just want to say, thank you for that encouraging comment to our friend, Daniel Catton. Miss you, bro. Thank you for that. And also I just wanted to say some of the things we avoided was a female inside of the white house, every house in America where a female runs the nest or runs the house never like in my experience and what I see, it almost never works out good.

And I don't think that would have been any different in the white house. And especially with someone with, you know, with all the views and against God and someone like Kamala Harris, I think it would have been a judgment.

So we avoided judgment. So I'm thinking that maybe, just maybe there's people out there that did repent and are now trusting in Jesus Christ. Another thing is I have some friends that are liberals and they like to mock and joke.

And I avoided that mocking and scoffing from scoffers that Kamala would have won. And instead we got the victory. I'm in a group chat with 10 men, probably, you know, six or seven liberals and maybe like one Rhino and then one actual conservative who doesn't talk a lot.

But today he was talking and we were rejoicing and, you know, they were a little upset, but we were happy and we got a victory. So I thank God for that. But we avoided scoffing and mocking and judgment.

And I think that's the greatest thing we avoided. Tim, you are as politically incorrect as Isaiah in chapter three, verse 12, where it says, children are their oppressors and women rule over them. Yes.

Yeah. Amen. Amen. And now we're going to Seth, Joe, if you didn't know. Okay. Thanks.

Okay. What's your favorite thing we avoided, Seth?

We avoided World War III, at least for the time being. I mean, look at the Biden administration. It was just an epic disaster when it comes to foreign policy. I mean, look at the Afghanistan debacle. You look at Russia invading Ukraine.

You look at Hamas and the October 7th Israel attack and Hezbollah and Iran, you know, how aggressive they've gotten with Israel. It's amazing that the bad guys have been able to do just about whatever they've wanted over the last almost four years.

I mean, look at the southern border and we don't know who is, you know, going through the southern border. I mean, there's some very evil actors. So now, I mean, think about this with Trump. I mean, Trump is, you know, for all of his flaws, he is a masculine leader who bad guys are afraid of.

He shows us masculinity better than most pastors, honestly. I mean, he does some name calling. I don't like that, but he is a tough guy who doesn't back down to evil people. And we can look at that and say, you know, Trump is, he's the kind of president we want.

And I'll admit this, guys. I think I started off tolerating Donald Trump and now I've grown to really like him and appreciate him. You know, and my appreciation for evangelical leaders has declined and my appreciation for him has increased, I think, over the years, you know, just because like you guys said, right, God's hand is upon this man.

We're not saying that he's our savior. I mean, because immediately when you say that people are like, oh, you're idolizing Trump. It's like, no, we're not idolizing Trump. We're just acknowledging that God's hand is upon this man for good in our nation and in the world.

Yeah. So this world will be a safer place with him as president. So this was a really bad day for Hamas, for Hezbollah, for Iran, for North Korea, for Russia, for China, a great day for Israel, a great day for the American citizen, great day for Christians, great day for Jews.

So it's worth celebrating.

Yeah. Yeah. And I think we also avoided a civil war, you know, I think which would depend upon how far the Democrats would push. Right. How far would they push the states, you know, if they did win power.

Right. And, you know, at this point, we're we're we're I'm probably thinking we are expecting some blowback. You guys, what do you think? Are we going to be in summer of twenty twenty again? I don't think so.

Oh, OK. Well, let's pray that that doesn't.

Happen because that was horrible. Yeah. Here's another thing we avoided. We avoided the Californication of the United States of America. If you realize California was a red state in the 80s and they just flooded the border with with illegal immigrants, and then it was not within just a short amount of time that it was completely blue because of all the new voters that they were able to bring online.

Well, if this border had stayed open the way it had been for the last four years, there would not have been another chance. This was our last chance to close that border before America as a people was just completely swamped and overrun.

And we lose.

Our chance to have an election like this again. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Wow. What else do we what else do we avoid? Anybody anybody want to jump out on that or do we want to go on to what did we gain? What's what's the future look like?

Yeah. But let's move on. OK, I can address that.

OK, sure. Sure. I think what ends up happening is this is an opportunity for believers, for the evangelical community to start really speaking out and setting a tone for the rest of the country and how we're going to be doing things.

It doesn't have to be arrogant. It doesn't have to be any of those things. But I think that that the level that we're at, and I think we showed a little bit of that when we were at the library and just was repudiating the people there for the books they had there and the way we handle ourselves and the way that we carried ourselves was a witness for other people of how to behave.

You know, I just was teaching through C .S. Lewis, Smear Christianity. And during the time when he was preaching or actually having his radio broadcast, a mantra that was going through the U .K. during that time.

I don't know if you remember, Joe, it says manners maketh man, you know, and and it was a very simple, but strong saying manners maketh man. And it's that whole idea of us as believers to keep that in check and to live that out.

We don't need preachers out there screaming and yelling at people anymore. We just need them to tell them the truth adamantly, put in the 11th commandment thou shalt not be nice or whatever, you know, that we just tell them the truth and we say that and kind of set the standard.

The other thing, too, is that schools, I think the whole school paradigm is going to change. I think homeschooling is going to start to really in the next four years really start to come about with school pods and home pods, which is another opportunity for believers to get involved in and to add what God's going to give us as new ministries.

And I think that the just the national program of education here in the country, they know that this is this is a way that's starting to really build up. And I think the next four years.

We're going to see that start to change. You know, I want to comment on your first point, Ivan. I thought that was really great when you talk about self-control. And, you know, I think a lot of people don't like some of Trump's mean tweets and things, but if you've seen him enough now, we've seen him in a lot of different environments.

The man has amazing self-control, amazing discipline when he's in front of, you know, and and how could he not when he's in front of these world leaders and he's negotiating deals, you know, that the ability to stay on on target.

But if you listen to the Joe Rogan podcast, boy, man, he was focused for three hours. And what is he, seventy nine? Just wow, blow me away. Yeah. What else do we gain, guys? I think so. So the homeschooling thing, Ivan, that's a great thing, too.

What what what makes you say that we're going to have, you know, big bumps in homeschooling? Have you heard anything from the Trump administration on that or. You think he's going to get rid of the.

No, I don't think he has enough time to get rid of it, but I think that he's going to give incentives to have homeschooling become more prominent than it is before. He's already talked about that, that that should happen.

But this is where the churches need to get involved more in terms of building up that community and helping, you know, just just on coalescing like we're doing now and bringing other people to help, you know, treat, treat and educate children.

I mean, we have we have a chance here. We have one generation where we can actually educate from a Christian perspective on what what is going to happen for for the remainder of our lives. And I think the opportunity is here for churches to get involved, to do that education.

So we got the Senate, we got the presidency. If we get the House,.

Gains for the Church, the Economy, and Education

Who knows what else could happen, guys? Well, we gained Elon Musk to get the budget under control. We gained Tulsi Gabbard and some of these other spokespeople that can move the needle a little bit. We gained RFK to make America healthy again.

That's a real thing. Like that's going to be great. But here's probably one of the biggest things. We gained an economy where the stock market's already taken off because business people know this, where we can afford things because government spending with handouts, needless handouts, which were done in 2021, you know, and and beyond, which caused the inflation.

And now the building costs went through the roof, you know, interest rates out of control. If you look at the Trump economy pre-COVID in 2019, it was the best thing that this country ever had. And we get that back in time over the next couple of years.

So for a church like us that wants to build, we have all these plans, building costs coming down relative to the incomes of people going up, giving the chance for us to take ground, maybe to have another church that maybe a church that needs help that can't make it.

Maybe we can go in and and strengthen that and continue to plant like we did with the rock taking ground. And with that, I think comes a mood. When you see victory like this, you are encouraged and you see like, you know what?