January 9, 2018 Show with Jason Wallace on “The Death of Mormon President Thomas Monson & What This Means for the LDS Church” PLUS Mark Chanski on “Jonathan Edwards’ 70 Resolutions”
January 9, 2018:
Jason Wallace, pastor of Christ Presbyterian Church of Magna, Utah (OPC), & producer of LDS.Video, who will discuss:
“The DEATH of MORMON PRESIDENT THOMAS MONSON & What This Means For the LDS Church”
AND Mark Chanski, author & pastor of the Harbor Reformed Baptist Church of Holland, MI, & teacher of Hermeneutics for the Reformed Baptist Seminary in Easley, SC, who will discuss:
“JONATHAN EDWARDS’ 70 RESOLUTIONS”
Transcript
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You're a host of iron sharpens iron radio wishing you all a happy Tuesday on this ninth day of
January 2017 I'm delighted to have back on the program as a returning guest
my dear friend Jason Wallace who is pastor of Christ Presbyterian Church of
Magna, Utah in the Salt Lake City area.
And he is also producer of LDS video and all of the videos under that
umbrella.
On the Mormon Church or the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter -day Saints.
Today we are going to be discussing the death of Mormon president Thomas
Monson and what this means for the LDS Church and it's my honor and privilege
to welcome you back to iron sharpens iron radio pastor Jason Wallace and
I'd like everyone listening if you have a question on Mormonism and
Especially if it has something to do with the late president of the Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter -day Saints Thomas Monson.
Our email address is Chris Arnton at gmail .com.
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Please give us your first name at least your city and state and your country of residence if you live outside the USA and only remain
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Well, first of all before I even go into The topic at hand as we typically
do because there are new listeners joining the iron sharpens iron radio audience every day.
Well practically every day tell us something about Christ Presbyterian Church of Magna, Utah.
Well, I bet the Mormons regret letting you get a hold of their ward building.
Well, obviously it wasn't technically a church before you occupy this.
Great.
Well if anybody wants to find out more about Christ Presbyterian Church in
Magna, Utah, you could go to gospel utah org gospel utah org
now.
Your your accent doesn't quite sound Like you're from Utah.
Tell us about where you're from originally and why you specifically Accepted a call
to a church in Utah, or did you plant that church in Utah?
And have you seen any fruit yet?
While you have been evangelizing the Mormon neighbors that you have there.
Wow, I
think the
fruit that we hope to get the message out and
folks are aware of us.
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Lynn K Wilder Vince Eccles.
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And then on Friday Corey mill Corey Miller and Vince Eccles will be on the
program and I know that you happen to be personally acquainted at least with Lynn K Wilder, correct?
Great, so you'll have four hours this week Thursday and Friday two hours a day of
Testimonies of former Mormons who left Mormonism and these were very educated individuals PhDs.
They weren't your average Mormon just like sadly an average evangelical may
be extremely ignorant about what the actual teachings of the Bible are
and of historic Protestantism.
It's amazing how?
Ignorant many professing evangelical Christians are in regarding the truth but
these Were not like Jack Mormons as they call them or Mormons
that had very little knowledge of what their church stood for.
These were people who knew what they were Believing when they were Mormons and they knew what they were giving up.
They knew what they were abandoning so I think that that would be worth your while Thursday and Friday to tune in and
Write your questions for these guests about that subject.
But just recently Perhaps you could give us the exact date, but the president of the
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter -day Saints passed away.
His name was Tom and Thomas Monson and he was 90 I believe when he
departed this earth.
What was the date that he?
Departed the earth one week ago today,
and I heard A James White our mutual friend.
Dr. James are white of Alpha Omega ministries on a recent dividing line.
He was describing this individual as From an earthly
standard a human standard seemingly a very kind
Gentleman a man who made a humorous Event
out of a little boy disrupting a speech he was making rather than having anyone be stern with the little
boy.
He.
He started to wiggle his ears to see if the little boy could repeat what he was
doing because the apparently the little boy was imitating him from the crowd and while some
Pastor or perhaps parents of a child doing that might be furious with a child
And or embarrassed by him this man made light of it and tried to put everybody at ease so that they wouldn't be
perhaps overly Disciplinary of the child, but what can you tell us
about Thomas Monson?
So tell us exactly what the Mormons mean when they call someone an apostle when they
call someone a president what exactly are the gifts and rights
and Abilities and so on that this person has that would be above and beyond.
The average
Mormon
he claimed that he was
restoration
of
all
things.
They had to have a restoration
of.
Interesting now, I don't want to go too far afield of our topic today.
But I've always wondered and always forgot to ask you if you ever saw the 1940
Hollywood movie titled Brigham Young starring Tyrone Power and
Linda Darnell and Dean Jagger.
That was about how the Mormon Church
Basically survived after the assassination of Joseph Smith and you have Brigham
Young leading his band of followers into Salt Lake City
eventually.
I was wondering have you ever seen that movie?
Okay, because I was just wondering how accurate it was.
Because in the movie as you may recall Brigham Young was dishonest
about having received a vision that he would be the new prophet for the
the church and the his dishonesty was apparently haunting him, especially when
things were not going very well for the His fellow Mormons as they journeyed across
America to eventually land in Salt Lake City, Utah.
And when Locusts were eating their crops.
When they finally made a settlement there in Salt Lake City and a swarm of locusts were devouring their
crops.
Brigham Young reached the end of his rope and was Having someone ring the church bell.
To gather everyone because he was about to make a speech admitting that he had lied about Seeing a vision or hearing a
voice something to that effect.
That he was to be the new Prophet and then a flock of seagulls.
A giant enormous swarm of seagulls.
Flock of seagulls Came and devoured all of the locusts before he said anything and he took
that as a sign of God to keep his mouth shut.
And basically keep his post.
Is any of that something that has any bearing upon the historic record and.
The email address again for our listeners is Chris Ornson at gmail .com.
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Your city and state in your country of residence.
If you live outside the USA we have Harrison in
Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania who wants to know.
What can you say about this?
Most recent president of the Mormon Church Thomas Monson who just passed away.
Was there anything different that you can Specifically mention that set him apart from other
Mormon presidents.
Was he closer to the truth?
Was he just as far away from the truth or was he even further away from the truth through the
scriptures?
And.
Was this is this compromise.
Something that was coming directly from him or just as you were indicating before since he was
largely a figurehead something that those In the
background who are really who were and are yielding more actual
power were doing and he Monson was basically doing nothing because he was
perhaps mentally incapacitated or just not.
As.
Mentally clear as he once was.
In fact,
we're
gonna
go
to
our
first
break
right now.
If anybody wants to join us with a question of your own for pastor Jason Wallace about the Mormon
Church in general and if specifically if you have a question about Thomas Monson their recent
President who departed this earth.
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We Have our guest on with us Jason Wallace
pastor of Christ Presbyterian Church in Magna, Utah, which is a congregation of the Orthodox Presbyterian Church and
we are discussing the death of Mormon president Thomas Monson and what this means for the Church of Jesus
Christ of Latter -day Saints and Let's make this clear.
Even.
Though people who listen to this show often enough would readily know this anyway, but we want to make it
clear we do not believe that the so -called Church of Jesus Christ of Latter -day Saints is a
church and it is especially not a church of Jesus Christ.
We believe that this is a cult.
It is a false Religion, even though it might be filled with many many wonderful people
from a human standard.
The unfortunately and this is an embarrassment to The modern
state of evangelicalism, but you might have Neighbors that are Mormon who are better neighbors than your evangelical
neighbors.
I'm not I'm not saying that that's necessarily the case.
But Mormons have been known for being wonderful people, but they do have a false gospel and a false Christ.
Am I right pastor Jason?
Deeper
you go.
That's why our listeners have to go to LDS video and find out more
about the.
Heresies of Mormonism.
LDS video that.
That
initial
video
that
documentary
that
you created.
What
was
that
titled
again?
And of
course.
We never intend this to be some kind of a mean -spirited hateful bigoted thing.
Truth is truth and falsehood is falsehood.
And if Something is being believed and practiced that puts one's
eternal destiny in jeopardy The most loving thing you could do is to make them aware of that fact.
People constantly Equate evangelism
and apologetics and polemics and
Trying to correct a friend or loved one or neighbor or acquaintance in error.
They equate that with hatred and.
But why would that be hatred when no one seems to think that way when it comes to politics?
No one seems to think that way when it comes to health exercise and nutrition.
When people have differing views perhaps polar opposite views.
No one thinks that if you are trying to get somebody to stop the diet they are
on to use a different form of Weight loss
or something like that.
They don't think that you hate them Because of that and yet when it comes to something that is infinitely more
important They think you're hating them by getting them to change their minds.
By attempting to change their minds.
But which
of
course
we know the
only the
Holy
Spirit
ultimately
can
do.
Yeah, and
ironically
I've had
Roman
Catholic
friends.
Who have asked me?
Why don't you have Catholic guests on iron sharpens iron radio?
And I said well on some occasion I do either because there's going to be
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for me to expose an error within Catholicism.
I had Robertson Jenison for instance Roman Catholic apologist and we were discussing
the liberalism of Pope Francis and an overview of Pope Francis from a conservative
Catholics point of view.
Because you will never hear that anywhere EWTN will never have something like that.
The Catholic answers will never broadcast something like that.
So I thought that was a unique Situation and of course, I did take heat from even Protestants.
In fact, I only took heat from Protestants for doing that.
Some of my fellow brothers who are theologically reformed
really sternly chastised me.
But I said I'm not going to have a Roman Catholic on to promote Catholicism or
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I said that would be Like theological suicide for me to do something like that and then
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How is that different?
There is some hypocrisy going on here and I'm not saying it's intentional hypocrisy.
It's just people don't see the forest through the trees
now when it comes to specifically.
A.
Thomas Monson departing you you wanted to speak about this.
And what what do you think is going to be the aftermath?
I mean, you're not a prophet.
I understand that but what do you think.
What do you foresee as being a a Change if any within this
so -called Church of Jesus Christ of Latter -day Saints.
Really?
In fact, didn't they teach that the only thing the highest Goal
a black Mormon could ever achieve in the afterlife was to be a slave of
whites and in the afterlife.
Mormonism
and the
thing
that you were
bringing
up in
regard to the priesthood.
Not that you would rejoice in any organization Withholding a
privilege from a black person or anybody else for because of their race or their ethnicity or the color of
their skin.
At the same time you're just saying that they are being completely inconsistent by saying that that
was Revelation from God and yet it somehow disappears.
And we are in
a catch -22 because in some ways.
We would prefer that they remained racist because we don't want anybody being sucked into their
damnable teachings.
I mean Gladys Knight has been supposedly a great recruiter of
African -americans into the Mormon Church and the Modern -day
Mormon doesn't even might not even be knowledgeable about some of these things from the past.
Well, we're out of time brother, I'm sorry, but since you were only on an hour today the time just went by like a bullet.
But I know That for anyone who wants to get in touch with Pastor Jason Wallace The
website is gospel utah org gospel utah org and of course, don't forget about
LDS video LDS video.
Do you have anything else to say very quickly before we go to our break?
Yeah, you don't have to become Mormon to watch him with
you and ask for feedback.
If they contact us would be happy to help.
And very quickly isn't dr. James R. White going to be speaking for you very soon.
Sunday we're trying to arrange for him to go in
dialogue with a Muslim or
whites going to
be
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And if you want more information on attending those events with dr. James R. White of Alpha and Omega Ministries
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His spirituality and immaturity.
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Especially since you bring up one word that may shock or disturb some of our listeners if you speak of Jonathan Edwards
immaturity.
But before we go into that tell our listeners about Hope Reform Baptist Church of Holland, Michigan.
Well, actually, it's Harbor Reform Baptist Church Harbor Reform back.
Didn't I say that?
Okay, I apologize because I'm looking right at the name and it says Harbor so I apologize.
You may be you may be familiar with Hope Reform Baptist Church in Medford, New York where my friend pastor Rich
Jensen pastors.
Yes, I've heard of that church.
Well as far as up
here at entered by the
Reform Bath Bridge, Alberta.
We thought
you know what having
nearby at some
focal to
invite people in the church out here in Holland, Michigan.
And the Lord gave us some of the
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And that was the foundation for our church that was back in 93.
We began meeting People since then Chris.
Well, praise God.
Well, uh.
Our interpreters on radio seemingly is getting new listeners joining our audience every day.
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So there may be a lot of people who are unfamiliar with Jonathan Edwards.
I don't know how much many of these folks know about church history, even though Jonathan Edwards is
quite a prominent figure in church history from the 18th century
and in fact, he is very well known even to secular
historians and and your average Student of American history,
even if the person may not have any religion at all that they adhere to.
But tell us something about and of course in a summary fashion who Jonathan Edwards was.
He
may be
best known.
Angry
God.
People.
A phrase among us today
chapter
6 the Lord Jesus says woe to you and all men speak Well of
you bright light of its preaching.
And so frankly wanted to get him out.
And they
did and Edward
Tory died.
He was
actually appointed to be the present
display.
How him to
be so
important.
He didn't want to waste an ounce of it and a good thing.
He lived that way full because.
Yes, in fact, I don't know if I've told you this before and sorry for repeating myself if I have but
very dear friend of mine pastor Ed Moore of Northshore Baptist Church in Bayside
Queens who I've known since the early 1990s.
He was raised in an Arminian Christian home and Went to college
as an Arminian Christian and was led to the doctrines of sovereign grace by a
professor.
Who was teaching on the impact that Jonathan Edwards had in?
American society in the 18th century that has lasted through to today and that the professor was not
even a Christian.
So during these lectures on Edwards Pastor Ed Moore was convinced of the doctrines of
sovereign grace.
Gentleman named pastor Mark rains.
He now pastors in
English
or
class on the
classes
read after
Mark
rains
or in
a flat.
Praise God for that.
Well, we're going to be.
Obviously we can't.
We can't address all 70 resolutions that you refer to in the theme today.
Jonathan Edwards 70 resolutions and his spirituality and his immaturity.
We can't obviously don't.
The time doesn't permit to address each of the 70 resolutions.
But what were these 70 resolutions?
Well, they were.
Constantly running along in the little cave and on day after day
after month year after year.
Back and to ponder.
And in fact you look at the dividing lines of time that the Lord
gives to us Genesis 1.
Ponder
where
you've
been
in
19.
He polished him on to
snap the
thing.
Abilene
University.
His mind.
That's what my new American state
and I
think.
Resolution, it's not me
some five where you will hear my voice.
Resolving is Edwards
himself some way falling
common there in
the
1700s taking
then and you
can read them even now.
Apply
myself and divert
my mind from my
business.
But contemporary he
might become so that I might
Redeemed him so as
a young
man, and
even though I think there's a lot of spirituality to be found here and overwhelmingly.
That's the benefit we can draw from them.
I think we're wise to about that.
Maybe toward the end.
In fact, that would be a perfect place for us to take our final break.
It will be shorter than the last one.
And if anybody would like to join us on the air with a question now is the time to do it before we?
Run out of time.
Chris Arnzen at gmail .com.
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We are now back with our discussion with Mark Chansky Pastor of the
aforementioned Harbor Reform Baptist Church of Holland, Michigan, and we are discussing Jonathan Edwards 70 resolutions
his spirituality and his immaturity if you want to pick up right where you left off pastor mark.
Let's just dive into his spirituality.
The theologian the most lofty
of concepts.
But
as a young
man for
the highest degree of
Christian honor and of love to man sense of
my own
Conscience was birth
a border guard and
not allow any in keeping
with the
leaks about even.
We
all
know how at
alignment
on a car
kind of self
-idolatry
and 1219
an abomination to the Lord.
And so he wanted to be a man of truthfulness and.
That was an emphasis that he made himself.
And even he talks about his time didn't come
as resolved.
Endeavor always to keep a benign.
Here he
knew he knew
there were times
you may
have and smite me and
I'll be
something he wanted to be.
Good.
Find the good.
Him sometime Chris.
I don't know about.
You can have a Bullseye
for the good.
Joe.
One considered my servant.
Lord knows that he he finds the good in Joe.
Hey, have you consider my servant
shuns evil and and I want to be somebody who who finds the good.
I speak something
resolving.
Praise God.
Well Why don't we delve into the more uncomfortable aspects of
Jonathan Edwards, believe me I I.
Know.
What the outcome may be whenever we bring to light anything that is
a matter of correction or Rebuke or or
whatever negative thing that you might have to say about a great man of God a hero of the faith.
I have Gotten some emails wondering why a
Guest or two has said something in criticism of something that one of our heroes have
said.
Or written.
And of course, we are not to make idols of our heroes.
In fact, I don't know about you, but I've had Christians say Oh, we should never use the word heroes and I
don't.
I don't agree with that.
There's nothing wrong with having a hero in my opinion as long as you don't idolize the person.
What do you think about that?
Well, I think it was.
Remember though conduct and amen.
That's right all of a
right
but one when you reach a point where no
one can criticize those heroes.
You're in a cult whether you know it or not.
And so why don't you tell us something about the spirit the immaturity of Jonathan Edwards?
Well when I
say
image
God for the work in the heart because in his life, but the point that you're
making is he was 18 He was 19 years old.
In fact any any man who pens any treatise or any book or any?
Series of books, you know the
best of
men
or
four years ago
in mind
that
my appreciation and that is
because Edwards does not give a full orb Display
there's heavy emphasis on a duty in our generation can be a
naughty word and without
being
said I think
Sinclair Ferguson
He
writes this a the mark of
Infrequent
was then great.
Well, this
is not dominates over
divine provision Peter
divine pattern.
He often deals with profit,
huh?
And we do have.
We do have a listener question from RJ in White
Plains, New York.
RJ in White Plains, New York.
Asks, I hope this isn't too far off topic, but I have heard from fellow
Calvinists That as great of a man and as biblically faithful of a
man that Jonathan Edwards was.
They have said that his understanding of man's will Before regeneration
had some deficiencies in it.
Do you concur or are you aware of what I am speaking about?
I'm not really.
Okay.
Well, thank you.
RJ in White Plains, New York.
And keep listening to the program and keep spreading the word about the program in Westchester County
and beyond.
We have.
This whole issue of the the immaturity and again, I think
Responsibility and not much balance said that being
said He does put a preface in it.
He writes this in the preface against being sensible
that I am unable to do anything without God's help.
I do humbly and treat him by his grace to enable me to keep these resolutions as
far as they are.
We see in Edwards even as a young man.
He's saying I need the sap of Christ spirit.
Preamble
that that being said gene Edward V.
So conservative Christians can sometimes
fall into the trap of paying too much attention.
That's that
question Chris.
Second Corinthians 13 says test yourself to see that you're in the faith in yourself.
Don't you know that the Spirit of God dwells in you unless of course you fail the test.
I think we can do that,
but it is
important
that we look finding a
sense of a from our cell Christ.
Amen.
By their fruits you shall know them and it's a great question to ask do I have the
fruits are always going to be a
provider.
Surely Edwards would agree with Martin
Luther instead.
They should look to Christ on the
cross
side of ourself found it on the unshakable grace of God on the object.
It would say that inside
ourselves and confidence.
Amen.
In fact, we have a listener question about that very thing.
We have an anonymous listener Who says I know that reformed Christians believe in what is called the
perseverance and preservation of the Saints.
I know that a part of that is That we are to see as a litmus test of whether or not we
are truly among God's elect.
That we are living in obedience in spite of the fact that we do sin and we do fall.
But we always repent of these sins and return to following our Savior.
But at the same time I wonder if I am truly of the elect because there are some sins.
Private and mental sins that persist that I cannot seem to shake typically involving
sexual lust.
Am I to view myself as Unelect or am I to remain in a point of uncertainty?
What should I how should I view myself in my relationship with the Lord?
I do love him.
I do go to services weekly and I'm not saying that all these things that I do are
Meritorious.
They are just something that I love to do because I know that I love my Savior and I want to please him.
But at the same time there are things that seem to be ever -present in my life that disturbed me.
Lusts after the spirit they war against each other if you are merely
putting up overall In you
on the
other hand if
there is a fight
that is dwell in you think of
you the good that I would do I Do not do but the
evil that I wouldn't do that I do.
What a wretched man am I who will rescue me from this body of death to the ache you see the groan.
Yes fight that's going on in this man.
And that's the encouragement.
Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
So we live out
here fish ladder
and in the fall.
They've got they jump up again are fighting against
of sin even in your own heart.
That's an indication that there's life.
No the other hand if you're just a drifting stick Who's drifting along with
and the lust of your
serving it in
the kill of a most
will grow.
Amen.
Well, I want you right now to have five minutes of uninterrupted time to just summarize what you most want etched
in the hearts and minds Of our listeners today before we run out of time.
Again, I think of
read Jonathan Edwards
Glorifying God and all that we
in the life of John Piper.
So if you like the passion and in these resolutions,
just think of that
is resolved never to do anything Which I should be afraid
our of my life upon to
that little of foam.
That's a mighty motivation revelation 19 resolved never to do anything Which I should be
afraid to do if I expected it would be Not above one hour
Before I should hear the last that we should live.
Amen.
Who knows who knows if Christ's toes are gonna break through the clouds the next hour or if I'm gonna breathe
my last.
Whether it be a an aneurysm or
should live right now as if this were my last hour.
Amen, that's where we live our lives
or or even
here Chris
your old guy.
How about this one come to die over again resolved
I had done.
It's a
19 year old kid lighten
up Jonathan some may say.
But Chris the reality is the guy died at age 54.
And the Lord, you know what the Lord says, uh, John chapter 9.
I was him wall is like and what we
do we better do quickly and I'm so thankful that this guy was spurred.
When he was just 19, I would say that's just in conclusion
Edwards wasn't
40s.
There was another teenager
Christian life she lived which was not far and
Edwards would go and he replied to this girl with a 19 -point
letter and he speaks a lot to this
girl of certain disciplines and
best advice of this long 19 page letter and
all your course
taking hold of Christ's hand.
Keeping your eye on the mark of the wound.
There's a guy
1819 he was driven with duty.
But by the time that he became a he looked on the beauty
strained him.
Amen.
Well brother it has always as always it was a pleasure to have you on the program today.
And I just want to make sure that our listeners have all of your contact information.
First of all, the Harbor Bible Church, or I'm sorry The Harbor Reform Baptist Church of Holland, Michigan.
The website is Harbor Church Holland.
Org.
Harbor Harbor Church Holland org and Do you have any other contact
information that you care to share?
Amen so just make sure you write that down Harbor Church Holland org if you
ever are visiting Michigan in the Holland area or if you have friends or family and
loved ones that live there or.
If.
You are either visiting or planning to move there.
Please look up The Harbor Reform Baptist Church of Holland, Michigan.
That's Harbor Church Holland org.
Please remember that tomorrow my my former pastor my most recent pastor before moving to
Pennsylvania Mark Romaldi pastor of Grace Reform Baptist Church of Long Island in Merrick, New York.
Who is a part of that congregation is a part of the Reform Baptist Network along with the Harbor
Reform Baptist Church of Holland, Michigan a pastor.
Mark is my guest tomorrow on iron sharpens iron radio to address Rethinking biblical
polemics.
I want to thank Everybody who wrote in today.
I want to thank everybody who listened in general and I want you all to always remember for the rest of your lives that Jesus Christ is a far
greater Savior than you are a sinner.