Trump Assassination Attempt is Not What you Think

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So just ask that slick. Ask Matt slick that poor guy is getting no mercy from Andrew since Andrew's been out there this week out there in Idaho. They were ministering to the Mormon community out there and that poor Matt can't even buy dinner without Mandrew mocking him saying I beat you to it and putting him on video.

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So we have a new co-host with us. Drew couldn't make it so I last minute and I literally mean last minute about 50 minutes ago said hey could you join. And he's like sure. What's the topic now I like that.

About a guest co-host he says yes before asking the topic. So you know I could have thrown anything at him but no he joined anyway. Mr. Chris Honholds who we heard in the intro there and just for the record Chris it was not me that was posting the videos.

Other people were taking video because Matt planned he had planned to buy me dinner or lunch and had he wanted it on video. So the videos that I shared at that time was simply because Matt planned it and it failed.

Now I we know that Matt got me here in an epic way. Just go back to episode 100. Matt brought me back and bought me dinner. After nine years of trying that was classic. Well so we do have an update on it though Chris.

So Matt and I were in Utah. We did a debate together on the charismatic gifts and and Matt drove down. We go after I got I did eight sessions and then a debate with Matt slick. So Matt just casually comes down and like is all comfortable relaxed and preparing for one debate.

But we go out to dinner after after one of the nights and Matt he he figures hey let's go to a Mexican place. Andrew doesn't know Spanish. He talks to the lady behind the cash register in Spanish thinking I don't know what he's doing as he hands her his credit card and she's not charging it but waiting for my bride and I to come over and ring up and Matt decides to go to the restroom.

Well she's like okay and I just I just pointed to something on the on the board behind her so she would turn and look and as she does. I pick up Matt's credit card and when it's time to pay I give her mine and she looks down.

I said oh I have his. So she used mine as Matt comes around the corner from the bathroom looking and I'm holding his credit card.

And he goes. You did it you would think by this point Matt would know better than to walk away. Well Matt come on. You're smart. One of the smartest men I.

Know what are you thinking. He doesn't quite learn from his mistakes. What can I tell you. But you know he will be coming on. I will say that we just scheduled a time with him. We will have him on. I think it's we're planned in October.

I forget when it is. Let me look. Maybe it was August. Maybe we did have a date in August. Yes. No it's. Oh that's strange. I booked him for September. That doesn't work. I'm gonna reschedule with him.

Okay. Yeah September we got a special series coming up and I will cover that later in the show. All. Right. So what I want to do today and and folks just I see that StreamYard made some changes and I don't quite know like I there were.

Yeah just like there's things that they used to have up here like I I used to be able to to see the the names like your name would be down here in a banner. I could. I can't seem to get that. But what I do want to do is this show is going to be not so much political though whenever you mentioned Trump everyone jumps in into knee-jerk reactions and gets political.

It's it's more gonna deal with the assassination attempt as I titled this Trump assassination. Assassination attempt is not what you think I want to. Well I want to be a voice of reason. That's how I prayed in realizing that I have Chris here.

And Chris is the co-host of a podcast named voice of reason radio. So I but I do want to. I do want to kind of ask folks to just take a step back from all the things they're thinking and all of the different views that that people have been having on this because I believe that there's a lot of things people are getting wrong and I want us just to to be able to step back evaluate and and as Christians we shouldn't be having knee-jerk reactions things like that.

Okay so there's gonna be a bunch of things we're going to address. Some that people won't like I get it some that people are gonna think. Is you know you know they're just they. Some people have come to their conclusions.

They think they think they know everything with the situation and I think there's some things you might find incorrect. So let's let's begin with the fact that there was an assassination attempt on Donald Trump's life.

Maybe. Okay there's some people and let's go to the gamut. You know Chris I don't know what you've heard and by the way Chris has had like an hour less than an hour to prepare. So I didn't even prepare.

I was driving home. Yeah but I'm sure driving home. You were like oh okay what am I gonna say. No I was busy stuffing my face with dinner. So while driving. Yeah that's the second biggest cause of accidents.

Not being on the cell phone but driving while eating. Dude when you when you text me as I'm.

Leaving work I don't have a lot of choice. Do you know what the number one.

Cause of most accidents are no not a clue. People think it's your cell phones and that's number three eatings number two. It's farting now. What are you laughing at. I understand. You don't know what farting is.

Farting is putting your makeup on in the car. Okay it's called don't blame me for its name I you know I.

Was I was gonna go somewhat completely different with it. You know biological warfare you know driving people off the road. I could see that happening. Yeah no.

The number one way that accidents are caused there people are people put I was gonna say women but now we have men who do it too but putting makeup on in the car. So so this is gonna be an episode. If you guys want to come in join us just go to politics live comm go to the stream yard icon and you could join there.

So okay so I was mentioning differences with stream yard and KT says does this mean we can we can chat. And Andrew won't see it. I guess I just answered that question. That would be scary if we had the if KT and others had the ability to chat about the show.

If you don't watch live. Folks if you listen to the podcast and you don't watch live the chat is a world unto its own. Sometimes it's right in line with what we're talking about sometimes it's not. Sometimes it's it is.

They're evangelizing. We've had that. But when we I want to take a look at some of the things one of the things immediately that I noticed was the news. Because the news articles immediately after Trump leaves rally.

Yeah after you know one was he after gunshot Trump Trump falls down after noise and has to be ushered out of rally noise. You know it was very entertaining to see how they they could they quickly adjusted it when they realized they couldn't avoid thousands of people with phones that are taking video of Trump and it's all over the internet.

So they had to admit. And even that night when they woke Joe Biden up I sure did you know got him dressed and brought him out a couple of hours later he would not admit it was an assassination attempt.

I may agree with him but we'll get to that. But there are those who will say and have been saying that this is nothing more than a PR stunt. Okay I watch both sides to get an idea and I'm gonna encourage folks share this out because we're probably gonna say some things you haven't heard.

Okay at least I'm gonna say some things you probably haven't heard. But when you look at what the left is saying the left you there were people saying that this was nothing more than a packet of blood that either Trump had on him or his security detail had on him that he when he fell down he it was all acted in and they were saying he's an actor after all.

So he fell down and you know he's you know he they put this fake blood on him so he could stand up and they say when he had the the bandage at the RNC that was all faked. Okay first off I will say the people that were wearing fake bandages.

Yes. Okay stop. Yeah. But there were there were there's a number of people now Chris this is one thing I do find very interesting the number of people that I saw that was claiming that this was a false flag.

Are the same people that say that January 6th was a true insurrection.

Oh yeah yeah the one where everybody did an unscheduled tour of the Capitol and didn't actually you know try to kill anybody or take over anything yeah.

There's there's three guys in jail because they left their guns in the hotel because they knew they couldn't bring them to DC. That's a weird behavior for people wanting to do an insurrection. Yeah yeah.

Well I mean it's it's again.

Before we even get into the various aspects of it I mean this is this is you know we're seeing now as you pointed out you literally thousands of people with video cameras that are far more advanced. Even the most basic cell phone has far more video capability than anything we used say at the last attempt on a president's life Ronald Reagan.

Everything it's more advanced. We can see literally every angle. We have drones we have you know camera footage we have everything. And the media cannot get out of the mindset that it can still control the narrative.

And thank you thank you to people like Elon Musk who have actually I mean if this had happened four years ago X everybody would have shut it down and we wouldn't have gotten what we have. But thank you for people like Elon Musk who really did actually protect free speech by reopening that that up and allowing these things.

But they they still somehow think that they can control the narrative when you literally have thousands upon thousands of people every day on the internet uploading video and you can't stop it. And so yeah oh a loud noise and he crumpled to the ground.

No it was a gunshot. You know that we know that everybody knew that. But you didn't want to admit it because that's positive press to Trump it would build sympathy for Trump they are still attempting to do this and that's why it's like oh it's it was a it was the you know Biden's recent speech talking basically nodding toward January 6 talking about is the worst attack since the Civil War.

No it wasn't. You know it wasn't. But you have that's they're still attempting to do that and that's why everything that's happening now this this is one of the most significant events that's happened in modern history.

What are we talking about. Oh that old old man Biden has stepped out of the race and young person Kamala is running it is an attempt to control the narrative and they still don't. They still are thinking decades ago that they can control the narrative and they're not quite as powerful as they once as they think they were were in the past.

Well she's not quite so young it's like 60 but that's his knowledge his comment about the younger generation. I'm just he said any Vance would be younger right I.

If 60s young. Hey I I'm a kid I have put me in there all right. Yeah you do a.

Better job than calm I'm sure. You know there's a couple things that you said. There's very interesting one. You know it is interesting that the free speech of X because when you think about it Joe Biden retired and maybe we'll get to this later he's gonna he's he steps out of the race and it's done on Twitter or X.

Yeah it was a weird weird weird you know on his on his own letterhead with a signature that's not his. Like I wonder I wonder what happened when he woke up in the morning and discovered that he resigned you know.

Okay Joe here's your.

Ice cream. And by the way you're not gonna be president next year. Yeah so I.

Mean there's there's a lot that we could look at with that. But let us let's get into the son that you did say. That is a staying in line with the Trump assassination attempt and that is you know Time magazine did you see their.

Cover. I'm trying to remember which one that is they had a cover that they.

Almost went to press with the picture of Trump fist in the air. Mm-hmm. Flag behind him bleeding from the ear. Yeah. And they changed the cover because that might make him look good. Mm-hmm. When is it that that journalism is supposed to be making a decision on whether a political candidate looks good or not.

Yeah it's that goes to what you said Chris about the power they think they they have. You're seeing it with Kamala Harris now. They decided she's now the the candidate they've decided it. She's never had a vote then.

No one's voted for her. She you know this is. They're saying they're doing it for democracy while they do everything opposite democracy because the Democrat elites have hand-picked somebody and are deciding who the candidates gonna be and therefore we have to deal with that.

And so this is. That's not democracy. And so what we what I do want to point out though as we you know as we think about it here you have Kamala Harris who for three years now has been referred to publicly as the border czar.

That was her job. She was given the job of taking care of the border which she never actually did ever know. And there's plenty of interviews about her in this position being called the the the borders are.

And all of a sudden as of yesterday everything's being scrubbed. You have newspapers and magazines that refer to her that way. And what do they do. They're saying that was a misprint. So so they want to erase all that they're gonna so the media George Orwell would be proud.

Yeah the the media who feels that they can't put anything out that would make Trump look in a good light is gonna retry to rewrite history and make anything that's negative toward Kamala Harris be okay.

That's look I don't care which side of the aisle. I'm not telling you who to vote for. I'm not saying be pro-Trump anti-Trump pro-Kamala anti-Kamala. I'm just saying the fact is that's not journalism.

Right. Journalism is supposed to be getting down to the facts and and supposed to be hard on both sides to do the investigating and know what's really happening. And I think in because of the lack of journalism we have wild accusations and assumptions.

What what happened with Trump's assassination attempt. Okay so some say on the left it was nothing but a publicity stunt on the right some of the things I hope that we're gonna cover tonight. Was it planned by the Biden administration or the FBI or the CIA or one of the other government agencies.

Okay that's a question that's been challenged. A lot of people think that's what's going on. Was it an inside job. Was it the Secret Service that was trying to kill Trump. Okay you know was he denied Secret Service.

Yes he they did put in requests for more Secret Service people resources and they were denied. Kind of strange. The guy that denied it was not the head of the Secret Service until now. Right. The head of the Secret Service didn't wasn't the one that denied it.

It was her second-in-command and that's now first-in-command. Hmm he just got a promotion. People are looking at that. So. Was it. Was this some sort of conspiracy. Okay these are difficult questions and I'm going to explain why.

I think it's a difficult these are difficult questions. Ackman's razor the the simplest answer is usually the right one. When we look at all of these facts it looks like the easiest answer is that there was some plot to kill Trump.

Okay and I'm gonna go through details of that. But that aside. Okay I think that I want to provide some information for this audience to have a more balanced view of this and this. This is just education.

Right. What do we do here at Apologetics Live. Not only do Apologetics defending the faith the Christian faith but we also want to teach people how to do it. So politics is one of these things where people get knee-jerk reactions sometimes and kind of throw things out because they're listening to too much whichever side conservative or liberal listening to too much.

And what we need to do is learn how to be discerning. We need to learn how to evaluate these things. And basically what we need to do is we need to be able to use logic common sense and critical thinking and I see a lot of people that are not applying that here and in some that I like as I say we'll get to.

I'm gonna have a different view but I'm gonna bring we have Brad backstage. He has some questions about voting for Trump. So I'm gonna bring him in first and then we'll get to some of the stuff with the assassination attempt.

So Brad welcome. I guess you hear me all. Right. We.

Can. Okay excellent. Yes. So this whole thing about voting for Trump is kind of I've had a very hard time trying to land on what to do or what the best thing to do is and the most God-honoring thing to do and just trying to I see so many different viewpoints and just trying to just trying to have it just make the best decision possible.

So I guess my question is this is it. I guess as of right now I would say I would be leaning towards as much as I want to. I would be leaning towards not voting for Trump because of of an argument that I can't seem to answer.

I was wanting to see if you guys might possibly have a response to this that I haven't thought of and it's basically you know we would wholeheartedly agree to say that you know voting for Biden would be wicked and evil for a Christian to do.

Correct. Because of it's an abortion abortion and.

LGBT right. I'm not gonna vote for Biden but come right. Even worse. Yeah yeah absolutely. It is kind of funny because Biden was supposed to be like the moderate we people are saying moderate they're not the crazy you know Bernie Sanders and yet now we have Kamala who is the only one that's to the left of Bernie Sanders right.

And and Joe has pretty much been to the left of Bernie.

Sanders. Yeah correct. So more or less what I was. Where I'm going with it is that if it's if we would say it's evil and wrong for a Christian to vote for Biden prime and you know primarily because of his stance on abortion and LGBT issues wouldn't that same standard be applied to Trump and his state and his stance on abortion and LGBT.

And and more or less would and it not be more or less an answer to that. Be pragmatic as much as I really do. I can't seem to. I can't seem to come up with an answer and I just didn't know if you guys might.

Have something. Well Chris has something first and then I'll go. Let's just make a distinction on something with regard to that because I've heard this and I understand the argument you know where people are coming from when you have the Democrat Party their stated stance stated stance their platform is to advance these issues.

They are LGBT all the way trans rights are human rights. That's the Biden said you know when he ran for previously that this was the the human rights issue of our day. They want a federal law enshrining abortion protecting it.

They want you know kids being you know getting access to to trans surgeries medications etc. They are specifically making this their platform the things that God hates they have said that. That's what we support a platform and push for.

When it comes to the Republican Party and Donald Trump they are not doing that. What they have done and it is despicable and they should be held accountable for is they've softened their stance. They said well if we continue to say no abortion at all if we continue to say no homosexual marriage those are losing propositions for so we're going to soften our stance.

They're not platforming it. They're not making it. We're going to protect abortion we're going to advance LGBT. They are they are back stepping which again I think is despicable and every Christian needs to decide where the where that line is going to be for them.

But they are not advancing it as the Democrat Party is. So that's that's the distinction I want to start with. Secondly what we do know is that as happened in the previous administration when as much as Trump likes to say he he he helped overturn Roe v. Wade as I was Dr. White pointed this out.

It wasn't him that did that. It was the Supreme Court and the reason the Supreme Court got what they were is that he was given a list of constitutional justices or judges that would hold to the Constitution treat it as a fixed document on a living document as some want to.

So there's there you know we.

Have you Chris on. And he went with those because remember because he wanted constitutionals versus Bush who had lists like that but went with guys that were more you know willing to compromise and that's why we have had problems.

Right so when it comes to what are you voting for number one recognize there is a very big distinction between those two parties and number two what are what are the policies and what are they surrounding themselves with in order to advance those policies.

You're not voting for someone who's going to say I want abortion it at every stage and shrined into the the federal law they may not want to create a law that would ban it which is despicable that they won't do that but they are not trying to advance it.

Additionally when we are talking about okay we have the Trump and the Republican Party as it is now they would be a stopgap a measure to prevent basically a foot on the accelerator plunging us off the cliff.

Maybe they've got their foot off the gas and it's idling toward the cliff but it's not. It's it's not running headlong that gives the Christians time over the next four years to determine hey what are we going to vote for.

I would argue and I've said this online that the Christians at this day Christians at this stage do not owe their allegiance to the Republican Party. And the reason Republican Party is getting away with what it's doing is it recognizes much like the Democratic Party believes they own certain ethnic demographic blocks for the vote.

Republican Party is doing that with groups like Christians. Oh we own that vote. Well I think we need to no longer ensure that they have that but we're going to we have opportunities through primaries through local elections etc to advance you know those who will actually uphold that which is right and good.

And so voting for someone like Trump allows us that time to advance those things forward and to petition you know groups like the Republican Party if you want our vote you need to represent us otherwise you don't get it.

So I would that's my argument is that Trump is problematic on multiple levels. He is far from an ideal candidate. Yeah he's far from an ideal candidate. I really would prefer DeSantis. I don't want to see Trump back in office but that's not gonna happen.

So now the question is do I and I'm gonna say this up front and this gets me gets all kinds of people mad at me. You need to go to the scriptures read them apply them pray about it and then cast your vote according to your biblical informed conscience.

And the reason I say that gets people mad at me is because oh you're throwing you're gonna you're gonna go third party. You're gonna throw away your vote. I look I believe there are Christians who are gonna do that and vote for Trump.

They're just going to so vote according to your biblically informed conscience. But there is a distinction between these two parties and one of them is going to drive us straight off the cliff into a Marxist regime which we've already kind of been dealing with the last four years.

So do we want to slow that progress down and try to give ourselves more opportunity to advance people we really want in office or are we going to say I cannot on the basis of my my biblical informed conscience now I can't vote for this guy.

Hey if you can't you can't you vote according your conscience. Do not let me Andrew or anybody else push you into a vote that would violate your conscience. But vote for the person you believe is going to best represent what God wants he wants for you and wants for the nation.

That's before it that you have an opportunity to influence that.

Would be my argument. Okay so and let me give you mine. I mean one this is this. Well this could have been a very different because election because we actually have the records to go off of. Right Trump was president.

If it was Trump versus Biden we have both of their records and know exactly how they would do things. So as far as the abortion issue Trump is has been the most pro life anti-abortion president we've ever had.

He's the first one first president ever even even the guys that said they were Christians. He's the first one to go to the March for life made a big stand. He's the one that that put people on to the Supreme Court that would overturn Roe versus Wade.

Okay so we look at that and I wanted to put this comment up when Chris was talking D D basically I get think was giving you a hard time there Chris. You're saying compromise. So I and I wanted to put that up because I want to address that as well because I want us to ask this question why are we voting.

Why do we in this country give its citizens not people who are here citizens the right to vote. I say that specifically because right now the Democrats want to open up to just anyone who is here which is what we knew back when Clinton was president he did the motor voter bill where if you get a driver's license you get a voter ID or a voting registration.

By the way when you get a voter registration you get a voter ID and the purpose of that is so you have an ID to show that you're registered to vote. So when they say oh it's racist to ask for ID people wouldn't know how to get ID.

Did they know how to vote or register to vote because it came with an ID. Like it's rocket science. The only reason they don't want voter ID is because they want to cheat. That is the only reason because you need ID for everything.

But we have to look and Chris brought up the fact that you have one party right now that is completely anti-democ anti-democracy. Okay I will agree the the Republicans are not the solutions to all our problems but the Democrats are the cause of all our problems.

That's a quote from Dan Bongino. But the fact is that that is true. I don't think I think far too many people will look to politicians for the solution to the real problems in America. The real problems is the fact that you know Christians need to be sharing the gospel more so that more people get saved the the real God.

The real problem is that the gospel is not going forth in America and I think a lot of it is too many Christians know the Republican Party message. They don't know the gospel message and so that is a major issue that needs to be addressed within Christians.

But our problem is a moral one. It's because of the fact that there is no there's no shame anymore in America. I mean shame was kind of gone with Bill Clinton. But so you do have a thing that when you're voting for is between two parties because unfortunately like it or not we're a two-party system.

I will get to the whole thing of voting conscience and voting third party. I'm gonna get that a moment but right now we are voting. We have a responsibility to vote to keep our democracy. That is part of the reason we have in our founding documents the right to vote was to keep the democracy.

We have a party as you heard from Joe Biden and Kamala Harris in her first rally stated that the first thing she's going to do is stack the courts and and start to to make it where we could have voter by voting by ballot everywhere.

So what are the two main things she wants to do. She wants to make it easy to to cheat and make it. And they don't like the way that they got one part of the government they don't have control of. So what they want to do is establish it so they have control forever.

Okay that is anti-democracy. I mean I know they accuse us you know like the right of being anti-democracy and January 6th was a you know a horrible day for democracy. What was it. They were protesting for January 6th.

What was it that they wanted an audit that is following with democracy. They wanted to show their support for the Republicans for the 17 Republicans that were going to stand up and ask for an audit. That's what they were protesting for.

So they weren't trying to overthrow. That's that's what the left was doing with the BLM riots went for two years. What was it. They said they wanted to to fundamentally change this system because it is it is inherently racist and so you know like we have to evaluate all this.

But to your question Brad right now my biggest concern on what's on this ballot this election is Christianity. Okay people who follow this show follow me you know my background because of my Jewish upbringing I wish we studied the Holocaust a lot.

I've always said this which someone gets in power with they stay in power with Adolf Hitler got into power by by using the Jewish people as a scapegoat. Oh they have money they have power they have all they're the cause of all our problems.

And he was able to rally all of the different political parties because that way that he refocused everything on one common enemy that they can all have. But once you get in power with that you lose that power if you don't keep having that enemy that everyone focuses on.

And so right now you have a party the Democrat Party that is blaming well now Jewish people as well but blaming Christianity for all the ills of this country. The reason people can't love who they want to love is because of Christians.

The reason people can't just abort their children if you know if they want to is because of Christians. Christians are stopping us everywhere of doing what we want. That is the message they're they're conveying there.

There's when they say that the federal government is targeting Christians and they're using it in a broad sense Roman Catholics anyone that's going outside an abortion clinic any Christians that are going into a you know a school board meeting they're they're looking into their lives because they're Christians.

And again broad sense Christian the federal the FBI the federal government was doing that at the behest of a party. So so what is on the ballot really for this year is Christianity. Because if the Democrats win if they get the house and the Senate and the White House you are gonna see more laws that within my guess five years Christianity will probably be illegal.

Okay they will be. They already are looking to and you can go back on my rap report show Andrew Rappert's rap report podcast I did a show back when when Biden first got into office evaluating their basically people don't always go and search this.

But I do. But there are documents of what defines domestic terrorists and if you look at that document you going to church every Sunday makes you a domestic terrorist. And that's not a joke. That's one of the things meeting weekly with a regular group of people is it is one of the things that they identify as a domestic terrorist.

That's very broad but you know they've applied that to Christians. So so I would say the biggest issue as a Christian is Christianity is on the ballot. So let me address and I know this is a longer answer but let me address what Chris was saying with the voting your conscience.

I I believe we have a responsibility to vote according to God's will. Problem we don't know what his will is hit God's will maybe for Kamala Harris to be president. God's will might be for the Democrats to put someone else in there and that's you know whoever it's gonna be that's that's gonna be God's will.

But I had this discussion with someone who wanted to say that I was somehow being sinful for for saying that I would vote for for a Trump or a DeSantis and I like Chris would have preferred DeSantis. But I'll vote for Trump because God's will is that there's only two men that are gonna be elected or two people it's gonna be from the Republican or Democrat Party.

That's God's will. This guy was telling me you know you have to vote your conscience. You know last time I didn't vote for Trump I voted for you know. So this other guy and and I said okay how many guys.