WWUTT 2255 Q&A Confronting Pride Parades, Door to Door Evangelism, Fourth Watch Ritual

How can churches respond to pride parades in their town? Is door-to-door evangelism really all that effective anymore? And what is the fourth watch movement? The answers to these questions and others when we understand the text.

This is When We Understand The Text, a daily Bible commentary that God's word may be a lamp unto our feet and a light unto our path. Be sure to tell your friends about our ministry at www .wutt .com. Here once again is Pastor Gabe.

Thank you, Becky. You're welcome. Do you like the strobe light I have installed here in my studio? It's a little distracting, sure. It's not on purpose.

My light is apparently on the fritz. It's kind of blinking in here. Yeah, you know. A little odd. Wink, wink, wink, wink, wink, wink.

Somebody's trying to transmit a message to us, but neither one of us speak Morse code. Yeah, you know. That's what's going on. So anyway, we've got questions and comments we're going to be getting to today.

Guarding the Heart and Speaking Wisely

Let's open up the scriptures and come back to Proverbs chapter four. I'm starting here in verse 20. My son, be attentive to my words. Incline your ear to my sayings. Let them not escape from your sight.

Keep them within your heart, for they are life to those who find them and healing to all their flesh. Keep your heart with all vigilance, for from it flow the springs of life. Put away from you crooked speech and put devious talk far from you.

Let your eyes look directly forward and your gaze be straight before you. Ponder the path of your feet, then all your ways will be sure. Do not swerve to the right or to the left. Turn your foot away from evil.

Coming back up to that verse 23 there, that was kind of a theme verse for me. I think about my college years. Proverbs 4 .23, keep your heart with all vigilance, for from it flow the springs of life. I think the version that I had written on a post-it note and was kind of posted in places around my apartment, dorm, and wherever I was living then.

It was guard your heart, for it is the wellspring of life. Oh, yeah. Okay. I remember that one. Yeah. That's the, I think that's the NIV. This is the ESV that we were reading here. Yes. So guarding your heart is actually a good thing.

You hear a lot of people say, don't be guarded. Yeah. Open yourself up. Yeah. Be willing to try new things. Yeah, follow your heart. That's it. That is a heart that doesn't have any boundaries around it, apparently.

Yeah. Just go where you want to go. Yeah. But it is good to guard or protect yourself from certain things, to have guidelines, principles, to set guardrails, and not go beyond those things, because once you step beyond that and your heart gets exposed to that, I think it'd be better to kind of provide an example here.

So, you know, sins that I got into when I was in college that I had never known before. Yeah. And now suddenly I'm experienced in that, and my mind is going toward that, where previously I wasn't ever thinking about those kinds of things.

Oh, true. Yeah. And now that I've dabbled in it, it's like I'm more tempted by it than I was before. Right. So if I had protected myself from going into those areas in the first place, then I would not be so tempted by it.

How much more easily are we tempted by sin that we've experienced and want to experience again? Yeah, that's true. So sins from your heart flow the wellsprings of life. You don't want that water to be polluted.

Right. Definitely. It's better for you to keep that clean. That's a good way of wording it. One of the things that I've liked about, you know, how we have kind of helped to protect our kids. They haven't grown up in public school.

Yeah. We've homeschooled them. Is that they are less experienced in certain sins that I was already doing by the time I was their age. Yep. Yeah. I feel that too.

I share occasionally some of my past experiences with our 16 year old and I'm just like after I get done telling my story, I'm like, I'm so glad you don't have to worry about that.

Well, be careful about that too, because I remember my dad talking about his escapades when he was in high school and he would tell it to my brothers, but then they got older and would do those things and they were like, well, dad did it.

Yeah. Yeah. So I even have to be very careful about the way that I talk about past experiences and things like that. Yeah. It was just me being ornery. Sure. Well, some of the other things that are said here, Proverbs 424, the next verse, put away from you all crooked speech and put devious talk far from you.

We know that Jesus says in Matthew chapter 12, that out of the overflow of the heart, the mouth speaks. Yeah. So what the heart loves is going to come out of your mouth. That's true. So verses 26 and 27, ponder the path of your feet, then all your ways will be sure.

So you think about those things, set your minds on that, that everything that you do be God honoring, will be growing in the spirit, will be, as said in Galatians chapter five, walk in the way of the spirit and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh.

And verse 27, do not swerve to the right or to the left. Turn your foot away from evil. Yeah. All right. This being the Friday edition of the broadcast, we take questions from the listeners and you can send those questions to when we understand the text at gmail .com.

We have to come back to an email that we ended with last week. Yes. Did not finish answering. So we're back to that here from Chris. Let me read it again to refresh everyone's memory. Hey, Brother Gabe, I was hoping for a bit of insight from you guys.

I live in a very fast growing town in North Carolina. We are traditionally a small farming town with Baptist churches on every corner. Well, now we have a pride event scheduled at a community park coming up.

Folks tried to fight it in the council meetings to no avail. But my question is, what should the churches be doing? How can we intentionally and biblically organize against this stuff? I know standing out there with turn or burn signs isn't the way, but I can't help but feel that standing idly while the darkness just freely creeps in isn't the right way to go about it either.

Would love to hear your feedback on some possible action steps to try to implement to guard against this or at least outreach opportunities. Much appreciated and thanks so much for your ministry. Now that was from Chris.

Since reading that last week, I got another email from another Chris. Okay. And he says, Pastor Gabe, it's great to exchange emails with you. It's the town of Wake Forest, incidentally, the home of Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary.

The event is on October 5th. Pray for a lot of rain that day. If you are interested in viewing the public comments where a lot of folks from our church and others have spoken out against it, the recorded sessions are here.

And then he sent me a link. I didn't have time to go and watch any of that in preparation for this, but it doesn't matter anyway. So Chris goes on. The pushback really started in May when we became aware of the event.

The May 21st meeting is where the first public comments against the event are recorded, and then there have been folks attending each monthly meeting since. The event is being organized by a group called Wake Forest Pride.

They claim it's a family-friendly event, but anything associated with the LGBTQ stuff is very not family-friendly. That's putting it mildly. Yeah. No joke. I mean, just consider what you're talking about.

Lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer. And we know this agenda is even trying to mutilate children, turning boys into girls and girls into boys.

Every time they have an event of any kind, of any size and anywhere, it always ends up somehow perverted. Oh, very. Very, very perverted. Like stuff we wouldn't even think about watching on TV, and yet it's there in public.

Now hold that thought because we're going to come back to that and some of the advice I'm going to give here regarding this. So Chris goes on. For clarification, the town is not putting this event on.

They are merely allowing it to happen in accordance with policy. Said policy applied consistently would obligate the town to allow other groups to use public spaces to celebrate their festivals, regardless of how their ideology might be.

I hope this is helpful. Thank you. Well, I didn't check with the first Chris to see if this really was the same thing or if there is yet another town in North Carolina that is doing this. But either way, I think it's something relatable to a lot of people in a lot of towns because this stuff is spreading far and wide.

And it doesn't even matter how conservative your community might be. It's just a matter of time before something like this sneaks in. So I said that I was going to share personal experience regarding this.

This goes back to a little farming town, a true farming Southwest Kansas conservative town called Mead. This was where I graduated high school. It was where I was baptized. It's where I worked in Christian radio for a number of years.

How many kids were in your class? Thirty six, I think. Yeah. It was less than 40. Yeah. So, yeah, small graduating class. One of the articles that I dug up trying to recall some of the details about this story said that Mead had sixteen hundred people in it.

I think that's a little generous.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, too.

I think it was about eleven to twelve hundred. So sixteen might have been the whole county. Yeah.

Those in the country, too. Yeah. Anybody with a Mead address. That's right.

Actually, if I remember right, the whole county was like three thousand people. So yeah. So the town of Mead itself was, you know, at peak, probably fifteen hundred. Right. And one stoplight for the whole county.

Yep. So the stoplight that was right there at the intersection of highways twenty three and fifty four, that was the only stoplight in the whole county. But this story goes back to two thousand and six.

There was a California couple that had come into town sometime before that year, and they had bought a very historic building in town, one of the most historic buildings in town called the Lakeway Hotel.

Oh, right. Which is not there anymore. They've since torn it down and replaced it with a Love's gas station. Oh, yeah. So a friend of mine, a deacon from our church, as a matter of fact. Sad. Yeah, it is.

It's really sad. But honestly, I just kind of like was judgment poured out on this place because of this whole saga. True. But anyway, one of the deacons from our church actually drove through the town a couple of months ago and took a picture of it going down Highway fifty four as he was driving through the town.

I missed that. I'll have to show you the pictures. That's awesome. I think I did because I showed you. See, look, there's that Love's gas station right there where the Lakeway used to be. Maybe. I was pretty sure I showed him to you.

You could have. I don't know. I've slept since then. It was a while back. So anyway, the there was this California couple that came in and bought the Lakeway and they wanted to turn it into this big bed and breakfast kind of wanted to make it their nest egg.

This was like their retirement plan, so to speak. I'm speaking presumptuously here somewhat, but that was kind of the intention. Why did somebody come from California out to southwest Kansas and buy a historic hotel?

But business was not going well. I mean, it's a little town, less than 2000 people. So of course, he's having trouble getting people to want to come and stay. Yeah. Filling up those rooms. I knew somebody I knew the family that owned it before him and all the renovations that they did to the place and how hard a time they had trying to get business into it.

So as a bed and breakfast, it just never was going to work. There was a restaurant downstairs. The restaurant was really good, but it just wasn't enough to sustain the business that was needed in order to maintain the Lakeway Hotel.

So sometime in 2006, he decided to fly a pride flag out front. Now, for a lot of us in town, it was kind of, you know, like eye rolling, humorous sort of thing. Sure. Because it's the couple from California and here they're flying a pride flag.

Yeah. And the story was type of thing. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they're Californians. Yeah, that's true. I mean, we're not treating them as outcasts. It was just like once the pride flag went up, it was like, okay, if anybody in town.

Yeah. Okay. Okay. Fair enough. Yeah. Of course, it was going to be the couple from California. Now, the way this story went was that their 12 year old son had sent them this flag as like a memory of California.

Okay.

So he mailed it. No, he didn't live with them. Oh, I was going to say, where was he? Yeah. Not there.

Not there. Oh, okay. So he gifted this flag to his family. Remember us out here in California. And they flew it out front of their restaurant out front of the hotel. Okay. So they said that it was just bright and colorful.

And that's the reason why they were flying it, which is usually the first excuse. Yeah. They think it's just bright colors and that's why we want to fly it. But I mean, we all knew that wasn't the reason why.

And they were, of course, stirring up controversy in the town. The local paper printed a story about it that started going out to other papers in Southwest Kansas that started saying Meade, Meade of all places, is flying a pride flag.

I don't think you could have driven down a street in Garden City, Dodge City or Liberal and seen a pride flag. No. But here's a pride flag in Meade, Kansas. Yeah. And so this ended up becoming national news.

And of course, that draws the attention of Westboro Baptist Church. I think it had their attention before this and that was what kind of pushed it into the national spotlight. Westboro will post on their website all the places that they're going to go to and protest.

And so they say they're going to come to Meade, Kansas and they're going to protest.

Now, for those of you who aren't familiar with Westboro, they are, I guess they're still are. Yeah, they're still there. Okay. A church in Topeka, Kansas. It's a very small church, but they. A cult. They have like a compound.

Yeah, they do. And it's, they go out and they protest things that they feel that are against the Lord. Pride is one of them, like pride parades and stuff like that. They'll also do military. Funerals.

Yeah, that was one of the biggest ones. Yeah. Probably did more military funerals.

They don't, you know, peacefully protest. Of course. They are very loud and they have visual pictures on their pickets. Like I won't drive by them whenever they were out. I would totally go the long way around.

They have these, yeah, very brightly colored posters that are done up in the rainbow colors. They're done up like pride colors. And so. For the pride protests. Right. For the pride protests. And honestly, driving by them, you would almost think, unless you were stopping and looking at the signs, you would almost think you're part of them.

Right. Yeah. Because of the way they do their colors. Right. It's like you look like you belong in the pride group. It's kind of odd. But anyway, Fred Phelps was the name of the guy that founded the church.

And a lot of the money that they make, the way that they were able to sustain their church and keep them going is because is through lawsuits. So Fred Phelps himself was a lawyer who became a pastor, a lot of lawyers in the family.

And they would sue people, you know, usually over free speech events such as this. And the settlements that they would make is what ends up sustaining the church. So when they said they were going to come and protest in.

Nobody supports their church, by the way. Not in Kansas. That's outside of, yeah, not in Kansas.

If you've ever seen the documentaries about them, a lot of the members that they have come from other places. They're not even. That's true. They're not even from Kansas. Somebody that will be influenced by their message, motivated by what they do.

And they'll decide, oh, I need to move to Westboro and join them. They're the, you know, I can't even say what their slogan is or what their website is because it's got a word that I wouldn't say on this broadcast.

And if I said it, I would get wiped from Facebook. Yeah, that's true. But anyway, yeah, it's God hates a certain group of people. That's who these people are. Yeah. Anyway, I can't remember what I was going to say.

Oh, yeah. So with regard to that church coming to protest, I reached out to them and I said to them, look, this is all a big scam. This couple is losing money on this hotel and they are trying to find a way to make that revenue back so they don't go into a pit.

This whole controversy has been drummed up to stir people to come to Lakewood. It's like free publicity.

Yeah. That's what I was thinking. It's nationwide publicity. Now he's got nationwide publicity.

Yeah. And you guys are feeding it to him by saying that you want to come and protest. This is not a legitimate pride flag flying. He's not even trying to make a statement that he's pro LGBTQ. Right. At least in all of the interviews that he's done.

Right. Yeah. And, you know, the those of us who are in town, we knew better. But all of this was still what he was trying to do to to gain the attention of people so that he doesn't fall into this money pit.

And you guys are giving him the most publicity he's had. Yeah. So I'm asking you not to do this. We can take care of this. We in our town can take care of this. Don't come and protest. And I got an email back from Shirley Phelps Roper, who is Fred Phelps' daughter.

And she ripped into me, said that my name, Gabriel, was a waste of a good Bible name. She had a seven year old, either nephew or grandson whose name was Gabriel, and he had more sense than I did. And, you know, just just one insult after the next.

And and, of course, that didn't stop him at all. They ended up coming and protesting with sometime in August of 2006. I can't remember the exact day, but that was the controversy that happened in our community.

And so all kinds of people from everywhere end up descending on the town on that particular day. And it's going to be the day that Westboro was going to be there. So they really set the date. Yeah. The date for all of this was from somebody outside our town.

And because they said they were going to protest that day, then there were counter protesters. So you had pro LGBTQ people that came in that descended on the town, kind of had an unofficial parade. It wasn't like they, you know, streets got blocked off and they walked down the street where it was just people everywhere.

Yeah. And the owner of the Lakeway went up on top of the hotel and he blasted a stereo with, you know, pro LGBTQ music that was playing. Oh, interesting stuff that would be appeasing to that community.

And people were standing around on the streets dancing in underwear. And there were men in makeup and in dresses. And they were making lewd gestures to this boy George music. And there was there was national media from everywhere.

NPR was there. A lot of the big, you know, cable news networks like CNN and Fox News. And there was representatives from just about all of them who were there. And on that day, it was like everybody who was involved in this was not from Meade, Kansas.

Yeah. There were a bunch of people that were there that were, you know, either celebrating or protesting this thing. And none of them were from Meade. That's interesting. Some of them were. But for the most part, we in the community just kind of abstained from it.

We just pulled away from it. And it was a day that came and went. And after that, there wasn't anything else. Eventually, the owner of the Like tumbleweeds after that. Yeah. Our tumbleweeds returned again.

Even they came back to our little town. And of course, the owner of the Lakeway never made his money back. He ended up having to bottoming out somehow. I don't know that he declared bankruptcy or anything like that, but got out of the hotel.

Yeah. And as I said, it's since been demolished, isn't there anymore, and it's a Love's Gas Station. So that's my experience in a little town that had nothing to do with really any of this. It was people from the outside that were coming in that were doing this.

Fueling it. Yeah. And so I would imagine, though there are some people in your own community there in North Carolina that probably are behind this and going to be involved, I would expect that a great deal of it is from forces outside.

Yeah. And a lot of times that's the way this goes, especially in conservative communities. So the question being asked, what can you as a Christian do about it? It seems like there's more that you can do than just kind of sitting idly by.

Right. First of all, I think that you've been doing the legwork in advance. That would be the first steps that I would tell you to do. Who in official capacity can you address and talk to to try to say, can we keep this out of our community, please?

Yeah. No joke. And it sounds like you're doing that and nothing is preventing that. And so it's going to go forward. It's going to happen. So now what do you do? This piece of advice that I'm going to give you is you got to be really careful with it.

You have to use discernment when practicing it. OK. But nonetheless, I'm going to tell you, go to the pride parade. Don't participate in the pride parade. Don't take your children. Don't take your children.

Don't be there as somebody that is celebrating what is going on. I think it is a good idea for us to be aware of what is in these parades. Now this is a public place. This isn't like going to a gay bar or something like that.

I would not advise you to do such a thing. But with discernment, with a lot of prayer, with accountability on top of that. Don't do it by yourself. Right. But people in your church talk about what you can do to go to that event so you can see it.

Because a lot of this stuff with pride parades tends to be kind of whitewashed. And when it ends up on social media or in the news, I mean, there's some places in social media where you can see exactly what they are.

I wouldn't advise that you go find them. No, don't look for that. But when it hits popular culture, when it hits the news, they've been largely sanitized. And the worst parts of what typically goes on at a pride parade, as you were just describing a minute ago, how gross and disgusting it is, a lot of that gets taken out in any of the publicity that they receive.

So I have to use this terminology loosely. I was going to say it's good for you to see that. It's not good for you to see that. No. But to be aware of it, that you know the level of debauchery that goes on around this kind of thing, and somehow be able to present that back to the city again and say, see, this is what we let into our community.

This is what got in here. Our concern was not about somebody being able to express their views freely. This is public perversity that we as a town, as a city, we just allowed it to happen.

And so... Because what's in writing isn't exactly what happens. Right. So you have to go back to them and show them, this is what occurred. Right. And because our policy wasn't more detailed, I guess, or something about not allowing these things.

Right.

I mean, there are all kinds of public displays that we have laws in place to prevent from happening. And if somebody does such a public display, they can get arrested. Yeah. And they will end up being prosecuted for indecent exposure or something like that.

Right. That happens at a lot of these pride events. Yeah. And so it's good to know what's in it so that it will help you fight this battle. But just being on the backseat, just trying to abstain from it and being totally secluded is probably not going to help arm you in trying to prevent these things in the future.

So that's one thing. Now, your church may decide that you want to go to the pride parade and do evangelism. That's fine. Yeah. That's what I was going to suggest. So you could do it that way as well. But don't feel like you're obligated to have to do something like that if what you're doing in the first place is just for research.

Like I want to know who these people are that we're going to have to minister to or reach out to. And let's just kind of go gather data for right now. Yeah. That's okay. But if your church wants to make it an evangelism event, then do that too.

Yeah. Again, just be planning for it. Don't let it be something that you're just kind of without a strategy, just going right into and doing it because you might end up heading into something that you weren't prepared for.

Right. So these are things that you and your church can be talking about. What can you do? There may not be anything else at this point that you can do to prevent it. Maybe you can. I don't know. I'm not in the community, so I'm not sure.

As a church also, you want to be reminding people of what God says about sexuality. Like if there's going to be Sunday school lessons about this or a sermon about this or something like that, understanding how the Bible defines us as men and women.

And above all, just bathing your congregation in prayer. Yes, definitely. That you would be praying about this. I mean, that is often a thing. It's often a step that people will downplay. It's like, well, that's just being lazy.

We're not doing anything if we're sitting around in prayer. That is one of the most powerful tools that we have at our disposal as Christians is prayer. That's what I was going to suggest.

If you are concerned about it affecting you negatively instead of in a godly way that you don't want to go, is to have people stay at the church, a group, and pray. And pray. Yeah, right.

During that time. Because there may be a group of people that doesn't, I don't want to go there and expose myself to that. Right, that would be me. That's fine. You don't have to see it. But that group can be at church praying while the others are out either evangelizing or observing for themselves what goes on at a pride event such as this.

So there's kind of some immediate counsel for you. I know as far as like the government steps or the, what would you say, the legal steps are a concern to try to stop this kind of a thing. I'm not in the community.

I don't know what you can do regarding that.

Get involved in government and be on that committee. And, isn't that a committee, not.

A board? Well, it depends on how the community itself structures. Or the board. Right. And get involved. I mean, because I lived in a town where the mayor was not elected. We never voted for a mayor. Really?

So we voted for members of the city council and then the mayor was chosen from the city council by the city council.

I don't know if I know how my hometown was elected or conjured up that.

So different towns, different communities may be structured in different ways. All right. Fair enough. Yeah. If you want to get in. But get involved. Right. And pray for them. Another, if you want to get another picture of this, look up the town called Rajneesh Puram that existed in Oregon back in the 80s.

That was a theocracy. So they had their own kind of structure in how the town was run as well.

You have an ornery smile on your face.

You may not want to look up Rajneesh Puram, I don't know. There we go. So we spent this half responding to Chris's question. We've got some others that we're going to get to. We responded to Chris and Chris's question.

If you want to listen to the whole program, go to www .utt .com for those of you listening on Christian radio. God bless. And thanks for joining us.

The Holy Spirit's Work of Conviction and Regeneration

Is the Holy Spirit still at work today?

Yes, he is. In John 16, Jesus said that he would send the Holy Spirit and he would convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment. When God's word is spoken and we see according to the law that we've broken God's law and our hearts are convicted and we realize I am worthy of the judgment of God.

When the gospel is declared, the good news that Jesus Christ died for our sins as an atoning sacrifice, that he rose from the dead conquering the grave, that he ascended into heaven and he's seated at the right hand of the father interceding on our behalf.

We come to receive and accept those truths because of the power of the Holy Spirit.

As John 6, 44 says, no man can come to me except the father who sent me draws him. Long my imprisoned spirit lay fast bound in sin and nature's night. His heart is a heart of stone. God removes that heart of stone and he replaces it with a heart of flesh that is alive.

It is the work of regeneration. God breathes into a dead man and he brings a person to life.

Look for the documentary, Cessationist, available now.

Once again, if you have a question that you would like to send to us, it's when we understand the text at gmail .com or you can send us a voicemail, go to www .utt .com, click on the voicemail tab. And I've got a couple of voicemails we're going to get to here in a moment, but first this email from Andy.

Food afternoon, Pastor Gabe.

Oh no, got to love those typos.

But you know what? Even if that wasn't a typo, I will welcome a food afternoon. Then I'll slip into a food coma and take a long nap. I'm a Baptist. I can roll with this. So food afternoon, Pastor Gabe.

First of all, thank you for all you do. Like many, I found your ministry through Wretched and have listened for many years. Yeah. By the way, speaking of Wretched, so they're launching something brand new on October 1st.

How far away are we from October 1st? That's on Tuesday. Pretty close. Tuesday. Yeah. Tuesday is October 1st. Yes. Man, September went fast. That's around the corner. Yeah. It sure is. So they've got something new coming out that day.

They're doing a brand new app. And I think it's going to be like what we're used to RefNet being, the Reformation Network. Oh, neat. Somebody's finally jumped on that hype. Finally, yes. Way to go, Wretched.

And it's all free from what I understand. Oh, wonderful. So another internet radio sort of a thing. That's awesome. Something to check out. I don't really know all the ins and outs of it. Somebody did kind of show it to me like the prototype a couple of weeks ago.

Looks neat. We'll all find out together what all of this is going to entail. So anyway, he goes on to say, you and your family have truly been a blessing to me. Your teaching has helped me grow in sanctification and I am forever grateful for what you do.

Aw. Thank you. Because I really just talked to a wall. Or me. If it's the Q &A, I've got Becky across from me. Yep. But we've spent more years doing this side by side and not looking at each other. That's true.

And now we can actually see each other when we do this. I like this much better. I know. This is better. Ever since I heard about the wreck, which you were in a car accident about six weeks or so ago, I had planned to send you a donation to help you guys out.

Life got in the way and I just did that this morning through your church website. Aw. Thank you. I did add a note that this was specifically for you and I did create an account under this same email address.

May God continue to bless you, your family, and your ministry in his love, Andy. Aw. Well, I so appreciate that, Andy. Okay, I'm changing the giving page slightly because there's still been a lot of people that have contacted us and said, okay, whenever I click on it, it goes straight to your church, but I just want to give by PayPal or something like that.

Oh, okay. Understandable. So if you still want to give by PayPal, the email address is whenweunderstandthetextatgmail .com. That same email address is attached to the PayPal. Or if you want to give by Venmo, it's Gabeki Hughes.

Yeah, G-A-B-E-K-I Hughes. H-U-G-H-E-S.

I had said Hughes at a restaurant the other day. So who's this under? Who am I calling? And I said, Hughes. Okay, spell that. H-U-G-H-E-S. And she's like, whoa. I said, just say Gabe. Gabe, I'll hear it and I'll go, yeah.

That is true. Also Hughes as in H-U-E-S. So I mean. Who does that? Who is that person? It's the colors, you know, Hughes.

Hughes. The Hughes of the rainbow. Our surname Hughes actually derives from that. It was originally H-U-E. Oh, really? So what was wrong with that?