Dead Men Walking Podcast:Living on the moon, Scientology, Jason the Minimalist, & Greg's movie mess

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This is us figuring out what the heck yeah, maybe we'll just leave this in. Oh, it's fine

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I don't think anybody really cares. No one cares. Well heck let's just do All right.

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Here we go. Regular. How you doing Greg? Well, hold on. Let's let's let's keep talking

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Don't do an intro. All right. All right good. Yeah We'll do this one, okay, and I'll talk over it.

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Yeah, this will be the most unprofessional Dead man walking.

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Are we gonna start thinking it might be the new that's the newness, right? Walk in welcome to another that was so bad walking.

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Yeah I Feel like we've moved into tenacious

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D territory on that. Sorry we could do that. Oh man Yeah cost and all and yeah another dead man walking episode, here we go

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I just got over here and Still not warm in the studio. No, I feel yeah, it feels pretty good better than a couple days ago when we recorded

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Yeah, you're your fireplace over there I don't know where you got that from but I think does kick out some heat

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You know who gave that to me my sister -in -law Oh, she's like, I'm moving and I don't feel like moving it

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Do you want it? Yeah, and I said, I don't refuse free things. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, right.

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I'm 25 % hoarder. Yeah Percent frugal, you know, what's so funny about Thank You Stephanie.

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I just went through a Few closets.

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Yeah, and I am a I will throw things away that somebody might still want

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You know, like I'm one of those those people like I don't like stuff. I can't very minimal Dan.

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Yeah I'm a minimalist for sure. But like I Literally want to be you know 45 years old.

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I want a suitcase that shoes fit in it and a Nice button -up shirt and some nice pants can just fit in there and a hat, you know, like Brooksy from What's that movies

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Shawshank Redemption? You know like like I literally don't want anything, you know

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Make sure the meat is in the freezer and make sure I got some good food in my fridge

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But other than that, I don't want stuff. Well, first of all, every time I go to your house, it's like Absolutely spotless.

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Yeah. Yeah No toys anywhere. He's got you got little kids. You got a big Journey guy look and I'm like, dude, how do you do this?

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First of all, I always clean and then I'll tell you that I'll tell you a quick story. Yeah, what when I knew we were different.

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Yeah, okay when we were different personalities, right? When we went outside when we went to Franklin, uh -huh and We're going down to your buddy's house

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DJ DJ. Yeah. Yeah. Shout out to DJ. Yeah, love that guy and We're there for like three days or whatever four days

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And we can we open the trunk and I have a duffel bag You could get us like hands in a duffel bag like Joe Pesci style.

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It's like huge. It's got two wheels on it Yeah, it's four and a half foot long. It's stuff full of clothes and all stuff

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I look over and you've you've got a back. I had a computer bag They're in here dude,

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I'm telling you man when we were on the road it was so funny because I would have a

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Carry -on Suitcase duffel bag, right? That was not that big It was the size of my computer if you're watching

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YouTube right now the size of my computer And I would have seven shirts rolled up I would have one pair of jeans that I wore and then you know the other amenities or whatever

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But I literally I was always clean I was not one of those nasty dudes on the road that would sweat the night before Never washes shirts never wash anything and just go with it

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I was not like that, but I would always make sure that did my laundry whatnot, but I did not like having

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Stuff the only time there was one tour that we did I grabbed

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I had I think I had seven guitars on this one tour

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I Had so many guitars I had this huge nice rack of You know for the guitars and you know,

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I was putting all these guitars on there and I was just like, oh man This looks so good. And then during the show, I would literally only use one

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Look cool though get more guitars than shirts, right? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, we're just as many

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I mean, oh my gosh, but yeah Anyway, we're gonna go through our stuff at home. I'm gonna go through every closet

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I'm gonna go through the basement and I'm gonna you know Get rid of things that we don't need and more than likely my wife's going to win that argument, right?

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But but I think that's the subjective because my wife's a little bit that way too where she gets into a mood and it's like We're just throwing it out right and like what we need is subjective

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She'll be like she'll think we're throwing it out and I'm like, but we might need that. Yeah It's an it's an old

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Monopoly game. That's right half the pieces and I'm like, well, we might need extra pieces Exactly the new game, you know something dumb.

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Yeah, but the other thing too when we went down there The other thing I noticed is like you're so inventive when you're a minimalist because yeah

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We get there and we have a futon to sleep on and you're like dude take the futon I'm good on the floor and I'm like what?

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Baby yep blow -up mattress he had in his laptop bag and then uses the laptop

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My laptop bag, but yeah, it literally been you're like a Navy You gotta be outside.

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You gotta think outside the box man. I'm one of those artists, you know Yeah, this guy's been on the road man.

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I mean it's life in a backpack Literally beds in the backpack I had to be very good with my packing too because we toured in a car for a little while So we were in a

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Grand Prix four -door Grand Prix. Yeah, we had three bags a guitar case our merch box and I'm pretty sure

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I only had a Tuner at the time so I didn't even have pedals. I did like we didn't have nothing

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But it was perfect because we've show up at a venue people. Yeah, what what are you about to do?

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Oh, we just need two mics and a guitar and some electric some electricity before getting the board.

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Yeah, right Oh, that's that's funny. Anyway, yeah good thing. You didn't have like full set of like drums and stuff though I mean it takes up space.

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I know but think about that man like cars think about how much stuff We have on on You know, we don't our person yeah, we don't need you know and then along with that like in our house like things that we go to the store for that we just There's no need to have like I mean for us.

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I'll be completely transparent right now guys get ready for this All right, we drop it on have a budget with our food okay, our budget for our three per three person

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One toddler family 75 bucks a week

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Holy cow. Yeah, dude. We are really good. My wife is awesome about the food budget

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She does really good and we eat at home, but we eat really good though Like yeah, she she has recipes.

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I mean she's always bacon that's why I'm you know a little bit larger than I should be but I Mean like my wife is really good about what you know the way she spends our money, you know, no

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That's a Proverbs 31 wife, right, right, and it's we've read that on here before. You know what

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I mean? She knows what's profitable. No, yeah save knows how you know, yeah, but I mean Basically $300 a month even with even with this 10 %

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Literally. Yeah increase in cost of goods right inflation 75 bucks to get tips from you.

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I know right and then once a month I will be honest once a month We do go to Costco. So, you know, that's that that obviously add to it

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But just just say we spend 500 bucks a month in food. That's good, right? I mean like I spend 500 every time exactly.

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Yeah Exactly, right. But like okay, so so I was just listening to a

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Lex Friedman Podcast and Elon Musk was on there. Okay, and it was super interesting

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I mean like but they they got into the conversation about the moon and Mars and You know people people inhabiting

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I mean, that's the next next frontier. Exactly. Yeah, exactly I mean like how like how is this even going to happen?

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You know, like I mean we we have so many things that We think we need here on earth

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I mean and and some things for sure like a like a nice fireplace over there that you can just click a button and it warms

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You up, but imagine having to take all of these things, you know from just your house

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To the moon or to Mars, but then along with that you're gonna have to have food

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You're gonna have to have you know people that might be doctors I mean, you're gonna have to have so many different things in place, but the first missions are gonna be super minimal

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Yeah, I feel like if anyone should go to the moon and start civilization, it should be someone like you

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Yeah, like that can get everything they need for the next generation right into one. Yeah into one backpack

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You should show up to NASA seeds. Everyone's got all these, you know, just these huge boxes of Spacecraft boxes that can you know withstand the

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Sun's heat and you just got a backpack. I'm ready. Let's do this You know, we're going up there for 60 years, right?

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Yep I mean, it's just it's just insane to even think about because it's like how much money would it cost?

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To even I mean if you're taking ten people up there. Yeah I mean first of all the rocket has to hold ten people and then along with that I mean, you know, like you're gonna have to have food

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You're gonna have to have Maybe even some some wood or Shelter go to the moon.

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You got it. You got to build a structure, right? Right, right. Yeah, and I know there's people planning to do that even in the private

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Sector they want to do it. Yeah, but it's a really weird legal thing too because I mean, it's a really weird thing

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If you think about it, we just went to the moon stuck a flag in it. We're like we own it, right? Yeah under international law.

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We technically the United States owns the moon gosh Supposedly, I mean,

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I I don't why haven't we been back Because it's fake because the earth is flat dude. Oh, yeah, that's we can't get past the filament or whatever.

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That's called That's really weird, okay, let's just talk about that for a minute.

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Okay, and then we know this is gonna flat earth This is a this is a free thought episode. So we're just gonna go anywhere.

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Okay. Oh, we're not the sweater Not the flat earth I'm saying why haven't we gone back to the moon We went once in 1969 with technology that wasn't even advanced as a game boy.

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Okay, that just blows my mind Yeah, like we're just like hey, we're just gonna rocket you out there 300 ,000 miles and hope you get back and Then somebody said yes

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Yeah, there's like some people I'll try it yeah, right but then what we sure and then there's the Apollo missions right after that Right.

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I think they said we went it Someone's gonna have to correct me or we'll have to Google it But I feel like we then walked on the moon one one or two one or two more times in the 70s and then just haven't

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Gone back. It's like the early 70s Like what's that all about and then I hear like people saying? Oh, well, we got these

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Van Allen belt the Van Allen radiation belt. We can't get past did the Apollo I don't think the Apollo stopped.

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I think they went around it, right? Did they just go around it? Yeah, they just went around it Yeah, I'm pretty sure Tom Hanks Tom Hanks and Kevin Bacon just went around it

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Who's the other guy? It was that dude from Twister the the husband.

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I can't even remember his name. Oh Yeah, he was he was big back in the 90s. Yeah. Yeah, man

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Yeah, I you know, my favorite part of Twister was when Van Halen came on during the during the

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Twister I don't know if you remember that tune but This is like the most random episode

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Stuff right now. I'm sorry. Well, this is great. So no, no, I just said something about a Van Halen tune Oh during the

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Twister and it was awesome. But But yeah, man, I mean so Apollo 11 was the spaceflight that that was no humans on the moon.

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That was 69 flight Yeah, but is that the only time we landed on the moon? Pretty sure man

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I don't know. Somebody's gonna have to fact -check both of us one of us are wrong Either we walked on it again or we didn't but I'm pretty sure we did but either way that's weird, right?

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Six missions landed humans on the moon beginning with Apollo 11 And then Apollo 13 was intended to land

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However, it was restricted to a flyby due to malfunction aboard the spacecraft all nine crewed missions returned safe safely to Earth So six times we landed on the moon.

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I don't know. It says list of the moon missions Let's say not that we need to know this but oh no,

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I I would rather be factual than weird A launch failure.

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Jeez. Look at all these that weren't success. No Yeah, I mean imagine making a rocket.

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I mean Elon Musk. Did you did you know he did not go to school? for What he does at SpaceX like he is lead head engineer and he's never when he's never went to school for Yeah to build a rocket

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He just talked to a lot of really smart people and then he's read a lot of books on how to build a rocket

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You're just like so you're telling me You built a rocket by reading a book.

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I mean why not rocket it goes into space It comes back down it lands safely, but I mean, of course the first what three or four missions they blew up Yeah, but but remember the

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The one the the one that finally made it if it would have blown up They would have been done

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SpaceX would have not been able to to go on because he wouldn't have been able to fund it. Yeah, Luna 24 1976

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August 9th, 1976 was the last final mission that put people on the gotcha. Was it us?

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Yeah, it was we're the only ones who have no one else's What else has walked on the moon?

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Americans, that's why there's like except for ET Conspiracy theories out there that are like yeah

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We never really wet like how is you know, China can't get up there Russia can't get up there. We can get into orbit

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I don't know if you knew this or not Greg But there was a war on the moon look at it and all the crevices that's on it.

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Wait, what? It's this conspiracy theory. Oh, so some people think

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Floyd song. Yeah, exactly dark side of the moon, baby But yeah, no Some people think that all of the different crevices

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Have that there was a war on the moon. Oh like way before way before Civilization Something like that like we just don't know about it.

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But I mean, I mean would no one take into account Comets and you know some of these different things out in space that may have just ran into the moon and maybe made a crater

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Possibly, yeah, I mean look at we talk like we know so much stuff Sorry No us too.

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We don't know But I'm saying this is conspiracy. Some of this conspiracy stuff does get wild.

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I'm saying humanity is like we're so smart We're so advanced. We've got all these theories and it's like we don't even know what's at the bottom of parts of the ocean

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We don't even know what went on truly 15 ,000 years ago, we don't have any recorded history before that It's like we don't know where anything came from how it got here science a we

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I'm saying Secular science. We have a biblical worldview that we know where it came from exactly

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But it's just crazy like we don't we still call medicine a practice I mean you go to a doctor like I think you

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I don't know you maybe got this I mean, do you know that a misdiagnosis is the leading cause of death in the

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United States? Huh? No practice. I know that 80 million Errors are made every year in hospitals through doctors and nurses.

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We just don't know what we're doing. Yeah Yeah, sorry to any doctors out there listening, but you're still practicing. Yeah, there's only one great physician

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So yeah, exactly not that I'm anti doctor, right? Right? We're not. Yeah, we do have some wisdom knowledge

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Like Mary bet Mary Baker Eddie was the greatest. Yeah Isn't Scientologist kind of into that too because I don't

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Tom Cruise and all those guys like a oh, yeah Don't use once you become theta or whatever.

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It is like you can't use any type of drug any gotcha any Pharmaceuticals, right? Cuz that's what you got in an argument back in the 90s with another celebrity.

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Yeah, who was taken? Yeah Yeah, it was about anti -depressant shields. I think it was it.

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Yeah anti -depressants and stuff like that So Scientology is like Jehovah Witness a little bit like that to different stuff, man, you know, yeah

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I I see nothing wrong with modern medicine except for Something that just came about within the past year ish

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But I mean, you know It's like once things are proved to work and you actually don't get what it's supposed to stop

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You know, then we can have the conversation about putting it in Different people's bodies, you know these cookies that yeah

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Man so if we actually get on the moon, hold on. I want yes for a minute So Mars you got it or I we're not we're not getting to Mars in my life.

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I'm sorry It's just never no man too far. Elon Musk has been selling a lot of shares of Tesla Like he sold a billion dollars worth again yesterday or the day before why not?

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Why not cash out if it's I know Yeah Because it's all made up money until you have some type of Dollar dollars in your bank account.

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That's just now that's just numbers a number in a ledger Yeah, it's really gonna come down to who has the most land gold water

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Shelter right at some point cuz it yeah, cuz and really I mean, it's like what is money gonna do if if the book of Eli Actually did

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Happen, that's a good. No, it's a great movie Yeah, but imagine that happens and you know

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Everybody's just kind of fending for themselves and it's like it doesn't matter if you have a million dollars in your bank account if you don't

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Know how to grow food if you don't know how to homestead to some extent, you know, you're

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Might be a little bit of trouble. Let me ask you this or have a brother that knows how totally off Greg Are you can you figure out like plot twists and movies pretty well

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Do you see like like in those movies where they have a did I realize that Denzel Washington was blind the entire time?

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Yeah, no, not the entire time like The first time I was just like this is crazy.

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And then I didn't realize it until up till they reveal that he's blind Yeah, yeah, I'm horrible.

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That's why I love movies with a plot twist cuz I'm like, uh, I'm like a three -year -old. I'm like, oh I don't see it coming my wife.

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I can't watch those type of movies with this. She sees it coming a mile away Oh, it's like so observant I don't know if I'm just so into the movie or like, you know a little bit of the

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ADD and I'm like I don't know. I don't pick up small details. Oh, yeah. Yeah You know those movies that drop like a couple hints throughout the movie and then when you go back and watch you're like, oh, yeah

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I said she picks them right up. She's like, oh, yeah, he's blind. Right? Well, thanks for ruining I Yeah, but well, they're not that good at that or I mean

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I can be but I mean the thing with that movie though He he like did karate at one point.

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Yeah, I mean like he was playing these people Right, right, but like, you know, it's it's like man.

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He was doing some Kenneth Copeland stuff some Benny whipping people

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No, but yeah, I mean it was just yeah, that was that was a really good movie I loved seeing

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Tom Waits in it too. I mean Tom Waits is yeah, Tom Waits, man. It's so good Yeah, so I'm so you're so you're like me you can watch a movie with twists and be surprised at the end

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Yeah, I can yeah, okay for sure that makes me feel better Yeah, I feel like such a dummy when I'm watching it with my wife because she's like you didn't see that We don't understand what's going on.

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I don't even know who that guy is. She's like, he's been on screen five times It doesn't look familiar. He just has a hat on now.

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I'm like, no, yeah, no facial recognition whatsoever Don't know any of the main characters look Greg Pinocchio is a wooden

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Puppet, I don't get it. Oh Hey, I don't want to sound like a snob but have you ever read the book of Pinocchio?

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No, so much better than any movie that's ever read that book We actually listened to the audio version of the original book when we drove down to Fayetteville Arkansas, yeah.

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Yeah nice with the kids very I was like dude. This is a good audio book, too Yeah, I don't know so so much better in life lessons the idea of good and evil the idea of cheating and honesty and Wanting to become something that you're not it was just I don't know.

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I thought it was good. But yeah, no, that's awesome Yeah, so welcome to our episode of Pinocchio book review

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We're all right, so we have to get a structure on the moon if we go up there cuz I know yeah I mean, how are we gonna get things up there?

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I think the private I think the private sector will do it before the public sector before the government will yeah

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I mean Elon Musk is already Working towards that he could take 20 % of his net worth.

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So he's worth 320 billion 310 last I heard was 280, but I'm not sure.

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I'm not sure. I mean, I'm sure it's more right now I mean Tesla is way up the price if he took 30 billion

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He could probably get a couple rockets up there with some people with some structures and probably with 30 billion

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Prolong a two to three year mission up there to get a structure. Oh, man Something like that seems like it would cost a trillion dollars

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You think so you like I mean something like that like to have a sustainability up there for like I'm just saying it's like like put a

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What's in Antarctica? like a Station yeah Yeah, like we're scientists called a building.

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Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Let's go with a building a scientist building on the moon

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It seems like it would have to be You would have to bring a lot of things with you

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I mean wouldn't you have to have a refrigerator wouldn't you have to have oxygen? You would have to have a golden space

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Camp in the winter and you just throw your drinks. Oh, yeah, you don't need a cooler makes sense But I mean, but I mean, there's just certain things that you're gonna have to have like a microwave, you know

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How are you gonna make your coffee like Dude, let me get this straight. We're planning a trip to the moon and you're worried about and you're worried about microwaving your pizza rolls

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Exactly He's gotta eat Well, I mean Dude, you got some things that you got some things that you're gonna have to take with okay that those are funny jokes

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Okay, but seriously, but they're not you could get up there with a small. Let's say a small thousand square foot structure you get up there with some type of You know self -contained

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Garden system to where you you know, you have to have a self -contained oxygen system, whatever I think you could do it for 30 billion dollars and at least do like a one -year experiment send them up Oh, you're there for a year billion.

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You don't think so. Really man. I don't know You don't think that I think how much 30 billion is

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Oh, I know how much 30 billion is but I don't know and in this day and age in space

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I'm joking, but yeah, but no 30 with Joe Biden's inflation. I would have to see the numbers

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You think a half a trillion you think 500 million would do it man. I really think it would take around Yeah, like quite a bit who's gonna pay for it.

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We ain't going to the moon Elon Musk. No, I'm joking. I Have no idea.

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I I mean this is It's just so crazy though in the first place that I'm gonna

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I'm gonna I'm gonna bring it a little bit back home a little bit here, but think about this

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Why are we trying to put a civilization on? another planet when there are

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People that are hungry in the world. There are people living in extreme poverty like you know, like like can we

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And and this is gonna go in a different direction Okay, but can we can we as humanity at some point figure out how?

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to fix a few of those problems Rather than trying to head out into space.

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No Never you think do you think that there's always gonna be? World the number one characteristic that we have is self -interest, which is greed

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Milton Friedman talked about us No an economic. I understand that but Milton Friedman talked about it every

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Transaction you make in life in human because of human nature is self -interest is a form of greed is a form of self

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I hear you. I need to survive. I need this. I need that right? We're never gonna get to world peace. Sorry, Rick Warren Yeah, you can write as many purpose -driven books as you want, but we're never getting to the

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Catholics. Did you just call me Rick? Not you I'm saying in general So no,

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I'm very I'm pessimistic in that you are pessimistic. I'm no No, no,

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I'm a realist okay with human gravity, that's biblical. I do be

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I'm not That's Gonna cancel

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By the four people who watch us on you yeah Much many more listeners though on yeah, we appreciate people to realize we're on you to just go look

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Please just go look. We're so insecure. Yeah, right. I just don't understand Listening some people watching.

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I know right? There's like some of them that have 2 ,500 views There's a like a ton of them that have three.

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Yeah, that's okay. Whatever. It's okay. It's not the numbers It isn't but it is Yeah, right, right, but uh, no men walking podcast not just dead men walking there you go dead men walking in Go to the website

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DMW podcast. Yes. Thank you. So we sold two more of the the Bible determined. That was a lot of shirts today

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Dude, I keep forgetting Because we got to wear some for the show Yeah, for sure.

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But yeah, since this is the advertisement portion go to DMW podcast .com go check out

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The website in the merch site we got and we sold a Kind of love this which

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I don't know why I Thought of it. So that's why I love it I don't know why but it has a big picture of Stephen Furtick on it and it says we don't say the f -word in our family

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Someone just bought that one a little dicey where that one do a little family get together Okay, should we let's change?

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Yes We should should we put I have an idea for a t -shirt so I should just sit on here or do it offline Offline just in case.

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Okay, because what if you say it and it's like and people out there like what if someone steals it?

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Great. I know I am that too Exactly. Yep. Okay. Yeah, I'll tell you I'm holding you. Tell me what hold it

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Because we're always thinking up new new t -shirt ideas But yeah, so I don't know

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I don't think we're gonna get to a point to where we where we could feed every single person like I We had a whole episode on this like capitalism like is it biblical the principles and all that?

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But capitalism is even rooted in a in a system of self -interest and that's why socialism will never work communism will never work

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That's why capitalism has to be the best system that has come along because at least in self -interest. We're both having a mutual beneficial exchange of goods or services aren't we supposed to as the church take care of widows and or 100 % right and You know, it's it's like I feel like we're always just sending money overseas

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Sending money overseas. I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with that. Okay, okay sounded like you were well

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I think I've heard a figure like something like 50 billion dollars put online.

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Yeah It's It's something crazy like 50 billion dollars a year something like that goes overseas or something crazy yeah, you know why why can't we just hold back a little bit of that and Maybe take care of those in our community around so you're a

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Christian nationalist. Yeah Get ready get ready. Let's review and this is where yeah.

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Yeah, and you're a Christian nationalist you I'm saying the church Trump supporter needs to do a better job

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You know, oh, you're right here in their own community And whole point of a church is to take care of the immediate community.

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Yeah, like I think that's why I'm a limited government conservative That's why I believe in like that's why I like Doug Wilson Same right.

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He's he's fault falls more in libertarian actually, but just not like social libertarian I just watched a clip on him talking about that Didn't he do an episode on I'm sorry, we can get back to this.

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Okay. Yeah, but a sweater -vest dialogue with dr White and I'm agreeing with you though.

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Yeah that Yes, we need to do a better job as a church to take care locally

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Not that we're like saying oh, it can't go outside of these borders, right? Like could you imagine if every church mega churches small churches medium churches said hey

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We're gonna focus any tithes offerings anything that we get back to the immediate

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Community. Yeah in which we are in it would be it would be a different place. I mean, this isn't this is

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I'm about to go way out there. Let's do it. But get ready for this everybody get ready.

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You're ready Get ready to laugh Get ready to cry and just get ready cuz he's coming in a twinkling of a night.

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No, I'm joking I'm sorry. I went into that. Um, but uh, yeah

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So imagine Imagine this I'm listening what

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I'm about to say is really is really like I know I need to say it but it's like really hard for me to get out but Imagine if the church did something crazy like helped people with their bills mmm

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Yeah, like gave back to the people That are giving in a way like Kenneth Copeland says

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Yeah like like instead of you know, like like the

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Kenneth Copeland jets and you know Wasn't that the new wasn't that the new system under?

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the new church After the Ascension with Paul, that's what they did. Everyone brought everyone brought everything.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I see They brought everything and they shared it between themselves.

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Here's the thing though the pilgrims tried that, you know The pilgrims first year they were here.

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They had a very I don't say socialist because that's not yeah No, that's not what I'm talking about everybody You know workers on the means of production blah blah blah, but it was literally communal

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It was like hey, this is our 200 group of people. Everyone bring your crops everyone break, right?

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Yeah, and Then we share equally among themselves the only problem with that dude, and I'm I know

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I'm getting off No, no, you're good. The only problem with that is you will have people that go Well, if I'm being provided for I'm not gonna work right

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Proverbs talks about the sluggard turns over and says I'll do it tomorrow Right now that's different from what you just said.

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Yeah, which is why isn't what why aren't we going? Hey, we're bringing in 1 .2

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million dollars a year as a church or less or more, you know, whatever it is I'm just throwing in a random number out there and we know this single mom has a need sure this widow

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She's living off of her credit cards. It's divorcee. Why is why can't me? Why can't we pay?

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Why don't you pay that off or at least help her with housing something? Okay, but here's my then again Who knows if they're doing it, but here's my thought though And it goes back to teach a man a fish versus give him a fish if I just give you that money

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No, I know we're just enabling. I would love to see financial discipleship tied to giving exactly so and not because it's like Oh, I need to teach you how to pull yourselves up by your bootstraps

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I know how about we educate our brothers and sisters in the Lord not only spiritually in discipleship, but like real world

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Yeah, you know what? I mean? Like this is how you save this is how you have plan B and C This is how you invest.

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This is how you buy real estate. This is how you know what I mean? This is how you set a budget like you're doing.

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I guarantee you right now There's some people listening to this episode when you said you spent $75 a week or maybe a little more than that by the time you factor.

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Yeah, they're one they went. Oh my gosh, that's insane Right, you know, there's no way we're even

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Christians are just we and I'm guilty of this just wasting money Yeah, yeah, not only that but some people would even look down on you.

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Yeah. Oh, he's frugal And I'm probably holding back from his family. No, we you literally said that We're sitting down and you got to tell me how to oh, yeah for sure

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We get vegetables we were all organic my wife is organic and like yeah everything man

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So it's like yeah, she does really good. But but no, but yeah, I hear what you're saying mindset and could you imagine if we had a all these churches in the

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United States had this You know discipleship of fight of finances. Yeah, but also yes freely giving.

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Yeah, no strings attached I'm not saying like oh you got to go to this class money, but say hey brother. Hey sister.

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Hey family, whatever it is We want to bless you this we we need to you know, help you out because that's what the church is called to Yeah, but also

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We don't want to do this every month or every quarter every year exactly We want to show you in Proverbs how to be self -sufficient

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Yep, how to make wise financial decisions how to live a godly life in being good stewards of everything

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The Lord has given you yeah, you know, it's it's one of those things. I mean, I'm I'm actually doing this with with Aubrey right now my my daughter she

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Is 12 years old about to be 13 and I'm just like look like I'm showing her the stock market.

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I'm showing her You know different things about just saving and and you know, just I mean on a very small scale

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I'm not like going into spreadsheets and whatnot with her But you know, it's like just you know, like you just give me your

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Christmas. Yeah Give me some of that. I'm gonna buy you some Shiba Inu She made me and we're just gonna ride it out for 20 years.

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No, I'm joking. But uh, but you know On this same subject There is a crypto called

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Saitama Inu and I am NOT giving financial advice right now, by the way but it's called Saitama Inu and their focus is to educate the younger generation on Finances and that is that's their mission

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It's like they want kids to know how to invest and how to how to learn about money

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And and they want to teach I do like in the schools and whatnot and that's yeah, that's really awesome

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I mean like I don't understand why we didn't really have many Or any finance classes besides accounting

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I think in in high school. I don't know if you remember that and that was the only teacher He didn't even teach accounting. He just taught me about the stock market, right?

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This is the most interesting teacher. I have it was like real -world stuff. Exactly. Yeah, man, and But yeah, no,

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I'm right there with you. It's not just like let's just hand out a bunch of money Let's just pay off everybody's stuff and you know, just go on your freeway, you know, but it it's like man

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Wait, hold on. Could you imagine though taking your idea? Yeah. Yeah and say oh you're a church member. Yeah, you're a member of this church

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Yeah, we're totally taking care of anything you need. Yeah strings attached Obviously, we want to bring you along and in disciple you but could you imagine that the church growth and just not the growth but just like We've lost this thing of like being a

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Discipleship and being a community of brothers and sisters who all have have been forgiven Yeah, and who have been, you know purchased by the blood of Christ instead

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It's almost just like a it's just like I got mine. I got mine go get yours and it's all like separate

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It's all just like I I did this for me. I did this for my family. It's like I Mean, I I get that to a point like you have yeah, you know, you're you're striving towards something you're working hard and whatnot, but it's like man, there's there's certain things that I I would really

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Push back on with that type of media mentality because we're supposed to deny ourselves

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Did you see okay my ADD just kicked in do it why did you see that?

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Well, you might you probably did because you monitor our social media Instagram dead men walking podcast but I posted that screenshot that they

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NASA hired like 24 theologians to see what yeah religious responses would be to when they if they reveal if there's extraterrestrial life

38:43

I would love to know who the theologians were like that's what that was the first thing that I thought and I saw it in the

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Comments, but like I wanted to know who the theologians were. I hope one of them was Creflo dollar. Yeah, right

38:54

He was like we got Trying to get a plane. Yeah We need to ask them for a little bit of money

39:02

I mean, I wonder if we could could you could you imagine if you because the only reason I bring that up is because I'm Thinking who you're taking you're taking 50 people.

39:12

Yeah to the moon. Yeah. All right. We got a base set up Mm -hmm the year let me set the stage for it. Yeah. Yeah the years 2028

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Elon Musk 28 that soon 2032 Okay years 2028, okay, that's too soon, right?

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Yeah, what is it 2021 the years? 2040 yeah, we've constructed a Self -contained apparatus on the moon

39:36

Elon Musk is now the president Wow My whole point is okay.

39:42

He spent his hundred two hundred billion dollars Yeah, yeah We have to take up 50 people to the to be the very first group of humans to go to the moon

39:51

Yeah to live there. Let's say for a three -year mission Yeah, what 50 people are you taking and why like what what variety of people should be up there?

40:00

Taking the 1988 89 Detroit Pistons I'm taking the 1984

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Detroit Tigers No, the bad boy, yeah, yeah, right except to hit, you know,

40:15

Dennis Rodman exactly. I don't know you'd be pretty old. Yeah My point is the thing you take you take scientists do you take you have a load you take pastors?

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Do you take? spiritual people or just all just hey, we got to survive so we're taking you know, you know people who are physically fit scientists that know how to you don't have to be a little

40:37

What do you have to be a mixture? Right? I mean if yeah, I mean, of course if it was you or I picking

40:43

It'd be like, okay. Well, we need we need dr. Why? We all just sit around arguing, you know ran

40:56

Paul's a double predestination. He's a doctor, you know, right? Oh, yeah, but you know, but it's like it's like you need you kind of need governance don't need

41:06

It literally be like day one land on the land in the moon structure day three James White has already debated every single person here and crushed him.

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Yeah. Yeah Yeah, exactly Yeah, I mean it's day five doug wilson has written four books already exactly

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Yeah, yeah And and did 20 blog posts Day nine dale partridge has set up four home churches

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And there's already nine denominations Yeah, yeah Because of who we brought up, right?

41:42

It's like the worst and best yeah, man, because I mean you're starting a civilization

41:47

That's a that's a pretty wild, you know, that's a pretty wild thing to think about but uh, yeah Do you think it'll happen in our lifetime?

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Do you think you'll see? Do you see you think we'll see a structure on the moon in our life? I think

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Maybe I will say yes just because of how fast Yeah technology has gone.

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I mean think about it man back in the 90s. We're creating around like this I mean, I didn't have one but it was a big old bulky phone.

42:13

People had those, you know, uh, Suitcases in their cars that they were calling phones and uh, yeah, man, but I mean think about it now,

42:22

I mean Well, I mean kerswell was right about everything else the guy who created the kerswell keyboard and the genius and the futurist who predicted

42:30

He predicted, uh, the russian dude getting beat by the cray ibm computer within six months.

42:35

Okay, 10 years before it happened He predicted cell phones he predict like when I say predicted he's saying we will be at this level of technology at about this year

42:43

Yeah, and he's been within a year or two of every major event just because he says it's a scientific probability

42:48

He says 40 42 will be on the moon living on the moon in 44. That was he said 40 42 or no 20 42

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I was like what? No, that's yeah Sorry Oh, that's my omelette coming out

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Jesus will still be raining. Yeah. Yeah, there ain't no turbulent on the kingdom, baby That's right, uh, no 20 42 i'm saying yeah, uh 20 42

43:11

I could see that I could you know, but it I feel like uh, jim and dwight right now from the office when jim has like, you know

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He's asking, uh dwight all these different he's like well eight months he's like Dwight's like I could see that He's like a year and a half.

43:29

They're just sitting there for I can see that Yeah This has kind of felt like one of those anyway, yeah, exactly.

43:34

Oh, geez, we've been talking for 40 I don't know. Should we wrap it up or no? Might as well. Yeah, we probably should

43:41

I'll keep going. I don't know. Yeah, right. We might have lost a few of them out there people like these guys.

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Oh nuts I'll tell you the hardest part about this is gonna be uh me making the uh title. Yeah Uh, because i'm not gonna remember.

43:54

I mean, it's basically gonna be like maybe we talked about a moon landing I don't know. I remember that. Yeah We could we covered some stuff though.

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This is a fun one to just like stream of consciousness. I know we wanted salad bar Call this one salad bar

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Um a good dude a good salad bar though. I know if you go to a restaurant that has a good ryan steakhouse

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Exactly a good like 50 different toppings good lettuce good spinach like yeah, but salad bars, man

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I would always like Just do they still pile on? I don't know.

44:27

Well golden corral Sorry, yeah, sorry anyone I mean jeff foxworth is their spokesperson.

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It's not that great. Oh, really? Oh, man. Yeah Yeah, I I just I went there a couple years ago with my dad just on a ram and we were like, oh

44:41

Yeah, dude, there was a little gas station. It wasn't a gas station salad bar.

44:46

No, no, listen, listen I was like, you know where the you know where the ta is over on dixie. Yeah. Yeah for sure Yeah before that it was a bp gas station, but also a restaurant connected to it

44:55

Yeah, they had an unlimited salad bar. That was really good. That was some 80 where fazoli's is now.

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Yeah. Oh, gotcha This is the part of the podcast where you guys have no idea what we're talking about because it's local

45:07

Monroe county Right from the 80s. No. Yeah. Yeah, it hasn't been there since like 92, right?

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