News Roundup: PCA Madness, Inner City Crime, Revisionism, & the Death of Manhood

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Dot -com there's a lot of news to get to today. It's kind of hard to choose which stories to focus on but I This is conversations that matter, right?

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So I have curated for myself what I think are Important news stories to think through and I wanted to start

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Here, I wanted to start with a situation That took place over the weekend

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Regarding a murder and it seems like what's happened with this murder that took place in Charlotte, North Carolina it has opened up a

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Discussion that is ongoing and I believe will intensify. I don't think the discussion is going away We are going to for years to come be talking about violence, especially when it comes to violence emanating from certain racial groups and What accounts for the level of violence that come from certain racial groups?

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Racial minority groups in particular obviously illegal migrants have been part of this discussion but more broadly speaking black people in this country the descendants of slaves and I would include those who have assimilated into that culture who have come since the times of slavery

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That particular culture receives a lot of scrutiny and it's from both the left and the right

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The left wants to say the reason for this is deprivation from years ago from the days of segregation and from the days of slavery if we didn't have those

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Experiences you wouldn't have this level of crime There are there's a

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I guess a you could say a spectrum will say on the right that analyzes this And says hold on a minute.

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Look at places like Canada that don't have those same experiences and you have the same kinds of Situation you have crime you have the crime at basically the same levels in that population look at certain

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African countries now There are differences by the way, I didn't This episode really wasn't for this particular purpose

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So I didn't get a list together, but there are places I know they might be smaller places But there are places for example, there's certain islands in the

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Caribbean that have very high black populations and have very low crime rates So you have to get into each particular?

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Cult all the cultural factors in each particular situation to find out Okay, why does it look this way here and not there?

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I actually pointed out many times during the great Riots of 2020 that most of the violence seemed to be in the north and yet we ripped down hundreds of these

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Confederate southern statues And and and not just that we ripped down Christopher Columbus statues.

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We even ripped down some Founding Fathers statues mostly southerners who had some kind of a connection to the institution of slavery in this country and I Thought it was ironic that most of the violence though was in the north the place that you saw cities actually burning down We're in northern areas.

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The closest you came to violence in the south was probably in Atlanta and it did not compare to cities in the north like the

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Twin Cities in Minnesota or even Chicago So I think there are differences in populations of quote -unquote black people even in the

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United States But obviously we have our crime statistics and there has to be a reason for it, right?

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And so I'm not I don't shy away from those things I've been talking about those things for years and I will tell you

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What I think and we don't have time to get into all the details with all the things we're gonna talk about today But I will try to give you

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Somewhat of a solution what I've thought for years about solving the problem of crime in inner -city urban areas and Whether it's it's people who are black or people who are

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I don't care if they're green or whatever color The right way to approach this particular situation We also are going to talk about the

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PCA today and a situation that happened the Sunday before last

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At a particular PCA Church. It's a wild situation I'll play you the video but it's a pastor who decided he was going to Convert to the

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Roman Catholic Church and as part of his goodbye He served the Lord's Supper right after making the declaration that he is now a papist

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I don't know what to make of that but there are some it's a very prominent PCA Church and There happens to be someone who's very prominent in the

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PCA who serves at the church And so this has caused somewhat of an uproar Probably it should be more of an uproar to be quite honest because the

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PCA has shown they have a fighting spirit To go after all manner of quote -unquote racism kin ism and it seems like Christian nationalism

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But I don't know why this doesn't register quite as high but we're gonna talk about that We are going to talk about masculinity in general in this country

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There was another example that went viral last week of a man and I feel bad for him But I think he did the exact wrong thing and I understand

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I think why he did it and I think it's time for a pep We're gonna have to have a pep talk men about what your responsibility is to your children

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Even when it's a Cubs game and the baseball is for your son.

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You've caught it and someone else wants it We're gonna have to have a conversation about what to do in that situation without pointing too many fingers and condemning

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But what happened guys what happened to the American man? This question we've talked about many times.

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We're gonna talk about it some more We have some president Trump clips to talk about we have some Barna polls to talk about that unfortunately give us some dismal evidence for the situation in the

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United States concerning Christianity and That's most of it. We're gonna also get into Jamar Tisby's whole analysis of Racially motivated crime and what he thinks should happen.

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Of course this it's not anything that would be new to you We went through this in the social justice years, but I think it's good to bring it back up refresh

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Our minds a little bit and last but not least. We are going to talk about a clip that I think

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I've just had it it's from Candace Owens and Who else there was someone else on the podcast with her?

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We'll find out in a moment Anyway, Candace Owens talking about the true history of the United States and the poison pill

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Constant. I don't know if she mentions the Constitution, but our American ideas basically in the founding documents being motivated by Freemasonry and I think

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I'm just I don't know if I'm just getting in my middle -aged here a little more Rambunctious about these things, but I'm not gonna turn a blind eye to it

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I'm just a little sick of hearing these things and I know it's mostly on X most of you Maybe have not heard about the theory that I'm gonna show you but I'm just seeing so many

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Wacky theories out there and they're popping up on the right and they're not helpful They make they do make us look kind of silly

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And so we'll talk about Freemasonry a little bit and if you want we'll do a whole episode on it

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But I want to at least respond to this clip. So that's where we're going today Let us start with this situation.

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I'm gonna read for you a new story about this murder that took place and we'll use that to launch our discussion about crime and safety in the

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United States That's that's the men's retreat. Sorry. That's the men's retreat video good reminder again, though For the men's retreat if you haven't done so here's the

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New York Post now this story has gotten a lot of Press in right -wing circles

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Especially because it has not received a lot of press in the mainstream media and there's a question of why why is it that the

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George? Floyd's of the world gets so much press and this particular story doesn't get hardly any well

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The New York Post is a bit right -leaning for New York standards at least and they did report on it

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I noticed today the mainstream media is reporting on if the AP had a weird headline Making Donald Trump the center of the whole thing and a lot of the mainstream stories for some reason do not mention the name of the particular victim in the case which is another interesting thing because when it's something that fits the left -wing agenda the name of the victim is always front and center, but We will tell you the name and we will talk about what happened

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So liberal media and politicians have been accused of staying silent on the savage murder of a young Ukrainian refugee that makes this even more interesting.

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It's Ukrainian refugee. I thought we were supposed to care about them Well, this Ukrainian refugee was on a train in North Carolina in Charlotte and after a career criminal with no fewer than 14 arrests

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Was charged with her murder and those arrests by the way included things like breaking and entering stealing assault it's a it's a long rap sheet and This person is still on the street and it's kind of odd that this person isn't in prison already out

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It doesn't make sense. Why is this person freely roaming around this person? Does have some issues with supposedly schizophrenia.

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Maybe he's just talking to demons. I don't know He has some very weird ish ideas including thinking that this young Ukrainian woman was reading his mind apparently but Erna Zaruzka who's 23 was stabbed to death on a light rail in Charlotte with horrifying surveillance footage showing the moment the

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Unsuspecting young woman was brutally attacked now. This man is sitting behind her He just stands up and just starts stabbing her in the neck and kills her and the people around her don't even notice what happened

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Initially because it happened so fast it was unprovoked It doesn't seem like she even had time to scream

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She just she just dies right there in cold blood and this criminal starts walking around the bus blood is dripping from his knife and The name of the criminal is

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Decarlos Brown jr He's 35 and he's allegedly shown pulling out a allegedly pulling out a pocketknife and getting out of his seat behind Zaruzka before the video cuts just as he prepares to plunge the blade into her.

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So it's a nasty thing I obviously have seen the video like most of you up until the point where the attack where this screen

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Is where the attack begins and that is censored for obvious reasons Zaruzka is totally unaware of the killer behind her

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She's fiddling with her phone after the killing the attacker can be seen wandering through The blue train line dripping blood across the floors

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He carries the weapon bystanders barely seem to notice that a young woman has been knifed to death right behind them

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This is one of the tragic commentaries on our modern life isn't it that you have someone who has died someone who has been murdered and If you look at this picture

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You have this this guy's kind of in a daze looking ahead of him people are probably tired They're coming home from work, but most people are just looking down presumably at their phones

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And we're so distracted by our technology. Do we even notice what's around us? It's kind of a

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Sad thing he leaves the train Takes off his bloody hoodie then calmly awaits for the train to pull into the station before exiting

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But in the wake of the monstrous killing which took place on August 22nd So this actually took the actual incident did take place a while ago a few weeks ago

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But I think the footage was not released until last week anyway Mainstream outlets and politicians have stayed silent

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Charlotte's Democratic mayor even thanked publications that chose to keep the video from the public.

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There's a picture of the criminal right there The video of the heartbreaking attack that took Erna Zaruzka's life is now public

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I want to thank our media partners and community members who have chosen not to report or to share the footage out of respect for the family he said

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So here's a picture of the mayor mayor by Lyle's It's terrible representative

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Brad not Republican Said this about it the mayor's refusal to condemn senseless horrific and preventable violence is as telling as it is despicable violent criminals

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Regardless of who they are or what they look like need to be in jail Lyle's office did not respond immediately

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The violence in Charlotte is a microcosm of a national epidemic. Mark Harris from North Carolina Republican representative says

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Charlotte City Council candidate Edwin P Beacock posted a video of his nighttime ride on board a light rail train in Charlotte as he called for a crackdown on public transit crime a

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Week ago 23 year old Erna Zaruzka was brutally killed on Charlotte's light rail. Her death is a tragedy So people are weighing in on this it's just So preventable.

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I think that's what's got people riled up. It's so preventable. This could have been stopped This guy was on the radar of law enforcement for quite some time.

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He had issues that should have kept him out of society and yet there he is and Senselessly killing people now,

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I'm not gonna show it but I I was in a little perturbed that When the mainstream media was not covering this which was

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I think I looked it up last Saturday There was local media and there was a local I believe was an NBC affiliate that decided

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To use social media posts because sometimes news stories do that from what appears to be a local

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Activist a left -wing activist who didn't blame any of this on On evil coming from the human heart.

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It wasn't the problem of the law enforcement Being prevented from actually locking this guy up.

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It actually had to do with mental health It was all a mental health issue, which right when there's a murder that's to the left wings advantage in their narrative

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It's always it's guns. It's Republicans. It's something else in this particular case, though It's mental health and we just need to raise awareness about mental health.

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I guess that's the takeaway I thought that's ridiculous and I went to the guy's profile It was it was not even someone worth talking about because he had so few followers

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But it was someone on Facebook who was a black lives matter Activist and I just thought this is ridiculous.

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That's the takeaway, you know That kind of a narrative would be completely reversed. Obviously if it was a white man and a black woman

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Or a you know a white Ukrainian refugee actually, I don't even know would that play into the rights

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Anti Immigration stuff. I'm not sure but either way This didn't fit the narrative and so they didn't either report on it or they tried to take this odd Stance that it's all just mental health and we have mental health problem.

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That's what caused this no sin caused this evil caused this a criminal justice system that's broken in our inner cities caused this and It's that's where you can trace all of this back to so That is the situation

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There was I feel like there was something else that yes, the Charlotte mayor responds to the deadly light rail stabbing this is from August 27th going back to August 27th

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Lyles did not mention the victim by name or discuss any Specific measures the

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Charlotte area transit system where police are taking to address safety on public transit I guess there's just no way to prevent this stuff

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It's just gonna happen right and I mean, of course things flip through the cracks But these are some pretty big cracks to have a rap sheet as long as this guy did and he's still out there so That is what was happening in social media discussion over the weekend.

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How do we stop this? What's going on? and of course, there were a lot of takes that were very racially focused that Either this is what this particular demographic people who are black people who look like mr.

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Brown This is what they end up doing in higher numbers, or this is something that's particular to certain regions this is an inner -city problem or Like I said, there's some people who just think oh, it's mental health

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I guess and I wanted to open this discussion up a little broader and read for you

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This is something I wrote. I probably wrote it in 2020 or 2021 But it was published in my book Christianity and social justice in 2021

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I've been talking about these issues for a while and it's in a response I made to Jamar Tisby when Jamar Tisby is blaming all of the violence that takes place that takes place because Minority groups are committing more of it and he says that it's essentially

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Because of white people to you can trace that back to the way white people have treated black people, right?

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That that's the whole issue They say Jamar Tisby. We're gonna get to Jamar Tisby Phil Bisher, but they're basically the same narrative

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So it was a Phil Bisher thing. I was responding to And let's see, where do I want to start? So Jamar?

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So Jamar Tisby's part of this, too I guess I talk about both of them. So he talks about this in the color of compromise, you know racism

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Just adapts racism never goes away. It's all racism And Did I get rid of it?

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I thought hmm. I thought I had it queued up, but maybe I have the wrong page number here in the book

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Okay, so let's go to Bisher So Bisher takes the same narrative and promotes it in a very viral video that went viral in 2020 about racism in America.

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I Say this Bisher incorrectly states that vagrancy laws were only applied to black men ignores the desperate

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Economic circumstances in which they arose he neglects to discuss the ways in which some white people Promoted integration gradually and the constitutional concerns associated with forced integration when it comes to disparities in homeownership

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They sure so I talk about all these economic things Bisher's wrong about all of it Basically, he leaves out things that are inconvenient to his narrative fast forward he insinuates that white people's fear of black people created disparities and policing and Cites a poll known to be compromised which falsely alleges that the majority of Americans blame black people for crime in 1968

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However, he overlooks the fact that many urban black people requested additional law enforcement themselves

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I thought that was an interesting thing that the communities which experience high crime if you actually pull those communities generally

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They'll say they want more law enforcement But then they end up voting for people who do the exact opposite right and rage bait against the police and so forth

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Interesting dynamic Bisher also points to higher incarceration rates as evidence that harsher penalties for drug -related crimes

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Especially for crack cocaine violations single out black people yet again He fails to mention that most of the Congressional Black Caucus supported these harsher measures

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So I go through all that drug crimes and all that Bisher insists that there is no visible connection between higher

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Incarceration rates and higher violent crime rates yet only about 17 % of black people in prison.

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Are there on drug charges? Violent crime is currently the most proportionally significant category in which more black people are incarcerated than white people

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The FBI reports that black people account for over 37 % of violent crime arrests Even though they make up little over 13 % of the population according to Census Bureau The Department of Justice found that over 70 % of violent crimes against black people are committed by other black people

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Black criminals also commit violent crimes against white victims nine times as often as white criminals do against black victims

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It is likely that this data could make more sense of the current 33 % incarceration rates among blacks and Bisher's charge of white racism

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Bisher also alleges that a study of drivers in New Jersey showed discrimination when you're gonna skip past that one because you got that one wrong, too

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At one point Bisher falsely attributes the findings in a survey specifically focused on economic conditions Experienced by black people who live in urban areas to black people in general at another point

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He cites a study that suggests white teachers are half as likely to recommend a black student for a gifted track So in every category

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Bisher is saying law enforcement every category. It's just Against black people the whole system is just rigged and that's why you see these these crimes.

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I Go through the Planned Parenthood stuff. Let's see. Was there anything else I wanted to mention here? Okay, I think that was pretty much it

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I Think there's some more things I say about this, but the long story short You have a higher rate and I do go through later on Some stats it there.

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It didn't wasn't always this way basically and I don't know where I went over that but I'll just from memory during the 1920s and Through I don't know right before the

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Great Society You had much higher As long as we've been tracking these kinds of stats at least you have much higher marriage rates you have

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Also lower crime rates now As long as we've been tracking it black people have always

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Contributed more to the crime rate as opposed to quote -unquote white people and that's how the crime statistics are done

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So I'm just using their categories but much lower than today So today is

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I think the out -of -wedlock birth rate is something it's like close to 70 % maybe a little over that you're if you're born into a

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Situation a black you're black person being born. It's more than likely. You're going to be born to a single mother

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It was the reverse before the Great Society stuff. Now. I don't think the Great Society makes sense of all of this.

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I think it's Exacerbated a problem that was already present, but we've through policies and this is a good

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Situation to talk about this through our own policies. We have made this problem much much worse So when you got a guy with a rap sheet, he's got 13 arrests.

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He's been stealing He's been assaulting and he's still just on the streets. He keeps getting acquitted somehow.

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He keeps doing getting slaps on the wrist Then what do you have to blame you have policies to blame at that point?

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there were so many times that this could have been prevented and yet it wasn't and That's been our problem for quite some time especially since the 19 late 1960s 70s

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We've had an aversion to and I say we I say I'm meaning Politicians have had an extreme aversion to doing things that would have disparate impact doing may

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Enforcing policies some of them already on the books that could be accused of racism because there's some kind of a disproportionate

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Impact it has on people who are black or people who are fill -in -the -blank

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Hispanic in certain areas that's you know coming from Los Angeles. That's the thing you hear the most about It's gonna have a disparate impact on this population

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Therefore must be racist. You can't do it. Well, that's just killing us

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That's just making the city's inhospitable places making the cities because they're controlled by mostly

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Democrats who Are living with these high numbers of these populations and they are not enforcing basic laws about crime

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They are creating inhospitable environments and people don't want to live there anymore and for good reason

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They don't want to take public transportation Right now I live about two hours outside of New York City It is very well known in my area.

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If you go down to New York City, don't take the subway That's just kind of a common -sense thing and it's been that way since the

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Daniel Penney thing There's way too many things that have happened on the subway. I mean, there's crazy people that ride the subway

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There's murders that happen on the subway. The subways are dirty. Don't ride the subway if you go down in New York City Take a cab drive yourself find other accommodations and public transportation

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Subway is just not something that you're supposed to do and everyone here knows it So they don't take it and so who takes the subway then right?

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It's people primarily who are caught people who? Can't afford other means of transportation.

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And so they are forced to take transportation that carries more risks with it It's a big problem and now you have someone who's running for New York City mayor who will likely win who's a communist who will

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Make the situation likely more worse than it even is now There's there's no solution.

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There's no political solution, right? And this is this plays into why Donald Trump is going into Chicago I don't like that.

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By the way, I don't I like federalism. I like localism. I don't like the central government

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Playing an outsized role in what should be local law enforcement But I can understand also why

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Donald Trump feels the way he does about this. He's a nationalist. He looks at the whole country Thinks it's an embarrassment what's happening in Chicago.

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It's an embarrassment. What's happening in Los Angeles. I'm sending in the National Guard It's an embarrassment what happens in DC?

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I'm gonna clean these places up if they won't do it. I'll do it and And he will do it.

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That's the thing. He actually will get results that the local populations for some reason They're not voting for people who will give them those results.

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These places are basically places that you can't live They're inhospitable. And so what options do you even have?

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Well, your options are you get out of the city Which a lot of people do including black people including people who have been there for a long time whose families go back generations

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They just get out as soon as they have the economic means to do it. They leave and they never look back That's one solution, right?

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And that just makes the situation worse because you're intelligent population the people who actually have maybe some virtue and should be the leaders of society

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They're gone. You have a brain drain happening. So now you're just leaving the criminal elements to control things even more

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The people who are there end up voting for Governments who do not enforce the laws or they change the laws so that they're even less hard on crime so you end up just having a war zone and You either have to tolerate living in a war zone or you get out as soon as you can and most people

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Who have some common sense try to get out if they have to work in the city They work in the city, but their families are protected in the suburbs, right?

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We've been going through this for years and years and years and it doesn't seem like in many places. There is a local remedy for it

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You don't have people winning who are going to carry out the policies necessary. Now, what policies would those be?

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It's fairly simple to me What you would need it to have you would I think I what did

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I call it on X the other day? I called it a type of paternalism, which I'm gonna read you an article from jar martis be in a moment paternalism

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Apparently very very bad, but a I don't think I said genteel. What did I say kind of a benevolent?

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I think I said benevolent paternalism. That's what you would need a benevolent paternalism What does that mean? That means you're gonna have to be very hard on crime and there's gonna have to be a strong police presence

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If people can't protect themselves, they're gonna need to be protected people won't limit their choices to destroy society Those choices are gonna have to be limited

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You would also need to have available Low to medium skilled jobs jobs that the people there could do and make an honest wage and take care of themselves and hopefully families that they would form and you'd have to cut off the welfare you would need welfare reform so that they're not incentivized to just spend their time thinking about what crimes they can do and what trouble they can get into and Children being created into an environment where they're not going to be protected and so forth.

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And so that's the other thing You would need those kind of fat but those factories and those jobs are never gonna go to those places

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Obviously if there's not first a heavy police presence and crime isn't curtailed. That's the first step you would need to do and Then the third thing it would be you would need a heavy moral presence or have to be

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Very strong disincentives public shame if you will to participate in evil things and so there would need to be a cooperative effort among Christians to evangelize those regions and make sure that there's a hope and with all the mess that there is there's a

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Mechanism for counseling people out of those things should they want to leave their dysfunctional lifestyles?

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That's it What what other options are there right I mean for a plan right that that would be the plan

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That would be what you would have to do. Otherwise, they're just gonna keep getting worse and worse and worse and There's there's no solution in sight

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So when you have major cities going down this road, they're a threat and you're going to get heavy -handed people in the state or national governments who want to correct that mess because they're tired of hearing about it and It does affect the economy it affects investment it affects all kinds of other things so I Think that's always been the solution.

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But Jamar Tisby says no, that's not a solution for these kinds of things In fact, he just wrote this today

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So I'll just show you Jamar Tisby for those who don't know and I don't have a problem saying this very much promoted

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By guys like Lincoln Duncan and even Al Mohler and your big witty evangelicals years ago as kind of an up -and -coming historian of The new intelligentsia that the evangelicals are producing now

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They don't talk about because he started working with Kendi. He got on the CRT train really hard He started saying very heretical things and now he's not

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I don't think he's even on X anymore He writes from his substack and posts on blue sky But he wrote something on his substack today because I went to his substack.

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I just wanted to find out I was like is he? Talking about this situation down in Charlotte and it doesn't appear that that's this if he is it's

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Related to this and it's more along the lines of the National Guard coming in and cleaning these places up That's the thing.

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That's a problem So here's Jamar Tisby why Trump's plan to send troops into cities is about race and not crime.

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Okay. All right It's about race not about crime This article blend. All right So this is what he says that first Trump's talk of sending troops into major u .s

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Sounds like partisan warfare red verse blue, but look more closely. You'll see another dynamic Trump isn't just targeting

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Democrats strongholds. He's targeting black leadership Chicago LA Baltimore Oakland all run by black mayors often black women

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Just think about that for a moment, I mean, I don't know if that's The point he wanted to make if you just stop the article there

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I mean all these places high crime areas that jump site is it's just weird, right? They're all run by by black women

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What what could be I mean, it's if Democrats is not the I don't know why he's making this point

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He said this is a Bartisby's point, but he's saying it's not Democrats. They're black women. That's that's the thing these cities have in common

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And then he says when Trump points to Chicago and these other cities as so far gone notice who leads them

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They're all black mayors. And then there's there's a picture of Jefferson Davis, right?

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It just that's that's a line That's a connection right there Jefferson Davis right there with his adopted some

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Jim limber a biracial black child Is so you Jefferson Davis?

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Yeah, he's just like Donald Trump Look at him with his paternalism. Look at him trying to help this black son that he adopted

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I mean that I mean, I don't know if this makes the point Jim Artis be wants to make either the president of the Confederacy adopting a black child

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I mean, I thought they were all hated black people, right? But here he is adopting a black child and so instead of drawing the obvious conclusion from this maybe they didn't actually hate

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Maybe not all of them hated black people The conclusion that he draws is there must have been hatred behind the adoption there must be hatred behind trying to stop crime in these places where high populations of black people and Latinos live it we because we know already we just assume that all these people are haters

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So everything they do is motivated by that whether it's Jefferson Davis or Donald Trump So he talks about white racial paternalism.

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He says it's not enough to call these attacks racist. They're also Paternalistic. He's not talking about the attack in Charlotte He's talking about the attack of Donald Trump and wanting to Have law and order in these places at the core of white supremacy is the belief that black people cannot care for themselves hmm

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White racial paternalism cast black communities as intellectually morally politically and economically deficient

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Whether because of skin color or more often today because of supposed flaws in black culture So this is the funny thing like you can't escape the charge because even if you want to say it's a culture thing

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Look at the rap music. Look at what they're singing about That too is racist. You can't talk about that.

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Yeah, that's just like going after them for their skin color, right? You're just to the social justice mind.

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It's the same thing This deficiency is imagined and permanent the so -called remedy is white control paternalism insists that black people need

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Guardians caretakers or overseers that white leadership is both necessary and beneficial

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That's why black political power is treated as a crisis a black mayor black voters or black demands for equal rights

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Appear not as democratic progress, but as breakdown of the social order in This paternalistic imagination black people must be protected from themselves

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Like a child who has to be put on a leash to keep them from running into traffic Now, I don't know who's leading the efforts that Trump has to go into these places

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But I'll just tell you this with the ice videos that I've seen out there from Los Angeles There's an awful lot of people who are not white in Ice gear going into these regions.

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I'm positive Trump doesn't think about it this way I think he looks at it as there's crime over there

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There's a population that doesn't seem to be limiting itself and you have leaders who aren't enforcing the law

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So therefore I'm gonna go do it. That's I I think is that's the simple explanation and the one that makes the most sense but Jamar Tisby wants to make

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I'll tell a civil war thing All right So he goes the lost the lost cause right the lost cause was a myth that recast the

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Confederacy is a noble slavery as benevolent and Defeat is honorable the myth of the lost cause rose like the smoke still clouding the air in the aftermath of the

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Civil War All right. So, you know Jefferson Davis Robert E Lee They're just seen as heroes when they shouldn't be and he takes this quote here.

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Let me give you a quote This is from Jefferson Davis in moral and social condition African slaves have been elevated from brutal savages into docile intelligent and Civilized agricultural laborers and supply not only with bodily comforts, but with careful religious instructions.

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Oh, no Oh, no to make an observation like that to say that they're better off Under a system that limits choices and teaches them

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Christianity by and large No, obviously there's exceptions to this But if you go through all the stats on slave conditions if you read the slave narratives

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If you look at what foreign observers were saying Yes during the time of the 1840s when this actually this is an 1861 speech 1860s when this was happening there was a great interest in evangelizing the slaves who lived in mostly the

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American South at that time and Jefferson Davis talking about how their condition is better as a result of that I mean, it's something

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Robert a lot of people said this at the time he goes into Fitzhugh and What George Fitzhugh had to say

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George Fitzhugh very much a hierarchist who? He basically he even lectured in Ivy League schools talking about how

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Hierarchy is inevitable and basically well, I'll just read this quote in the slaves of the

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South are the happiest in some sense the freest people in the world the children of the family black and White are well -fed well -clad and well taken care of the master labors for the slave and the slave labors for the master

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Fitzhugh's words drip with paternalism So he's saying look they just do better when they're in this circumstance when they're not making all the leadership decisions

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They just tend to be happier. They tend to do better. And this is of course the same thing Donald Trump's doing So he goes on and on and puts more quotes in there and it's just typical

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Jamar Tisby stuff He everything in Jamar Tisby's mind. It seems like goes back to its civil rights or its slavery

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That's the cause of all things now. I I wanted to just for fun. I wanted to read you This is an article at the

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Abbeville Institute from 2015. It's called apostles of racism Anyway, I've Referenced this article many times before Because it all it is is quotes.

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It's not even an article as a class. The blacks are indolent improvident servile and licentious and That's the first quote

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Okay And the question is who said this in American history right and it's quote after quote after quote after quote that are basically just like This Missouri for white men and white men from Missouri, right?

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Colonization would keep our Anglo -saxon institutions as well as our Anglo -saxon blood pure and uncontaminated On and on and on and you think well this this guy this has to be the

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Klansman That's that's what's going on here. And then you find out every single one of these quotes was a very prominent

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Republican, right? I thought Dinesh D'Souza said it's all the Democrats right every single one of the quotes is from a

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Republican maybe More than a third of them are Abraham Lincoln quotes

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Horace Greeley Frederick Law Olmstead. It's all it's a who's who Lyman Trumbull of the

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Republican Party and That's basically why the Republican Party formed was for free They don't want to keep black people out of the

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Western Territories wanted to keep it for free black So why isn't it? This is just my question historically speaking. Why isn't it that Jamar Tisby?

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Why doesn't he ever pick on them? It seems like I mean, maybe he does at times I just haven't seen it but it's like he always goes to it's this paternalistic thing

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It's just it's always it's it's the southern mindset here It's the southern elites and it's coming out in Donald Trump who's from New York.

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He's got that mindset, but it's never northern Republicans It's it's never the way they viewed the differences between peoples and you know

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Northern Republicans did not have the paternalistic mindset perhaps as much they didn't live around Black people in high numbers.

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They didn't have slave populations and high numbers anymore The first Jim Crow laws had already been in effect by the time the

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Civil War came around in the north and They were just they just didn't want him around in their society.

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That was pretty much it I mean one time Abraham Lincoln even was looking into the feasibility of how do we ship all these people back to Africa?

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But Jamar Tisby doesn't really talk about that. Right the the line the politically correct line goes from the

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Founding fathers mostly the southern ones like Thomas Jefferson, right? it usually starts with Thomas Jefferson and then there's a direct line to the

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Confederacy and then there's a direct line to segregation and then there's a line to Donald Trump and that's the only history you need to know about and that's the reason that You still have crime high levels of crime in these areas and it's anyone who wants to solve it

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Is accused of being a racist so I just pitch it to you this way What's the solution What is the solution?

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I mean really I don't have any evidence that this crime that happened in Charlotte, North Carolina was racially motivated

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By the way, a lot of people are saying that online and so there's no evidence for it, right? It's the same thing with the Derek Chauvin thing.

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There was no evidence saying this was racially motivated. So don't say that we don't know I Don't know but this guy had a long rap sheet

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Why I mean is it there's situation after situation comes up like this and you're you start asking yourself.

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Why is it that? People in only certain regions in this country and it tends to be an outsized

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Group tend to be minority populations Members of minority populations.

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Why is it that they get slaps on the wrist if they live in these regions? What's up with that?

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Why? What do we what do you do about it, what's the solution to what happened in Charlotte?

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I mean the mayor has no solution just a mental health issue. I guess if things happen Isn't there a policy prescription isn't there something that can be done aren't there harsher things that can be done

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It can't someone be kept behind bars when they assault someone and keep Breaking and entering and robbing people.

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I mean what at what point do you say this person can't be on the street? I think the last capital crime that was punished in North Carolina was something like early 2000s

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It New York has basically outlawed it doesn't happen. Most states don't do it anymore I don't even know when the last one happened but this is a

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Situation where it should happen If you had actual punishments for these things there would be deterrence but if you're not gonna punish them you're gonna get more of this law and order is the only way forward and anyone who tells

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You that that's racist or paternalism in and of itself is just racist and that therefore it must be wrong

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I think they're the ones that don't want to solve the problem They're the ones that must hate so badly the people that live under these conditions

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They must want more murders They was must want more crime because they don't have any constructive solution for it

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Martis B is no solution. All he does is rail against Donald Trump for having a solution admittedly. I don't like Trump's solution

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I already said that I would rather this handled on the state level But it's Illinois gonna do anything about Chicago.

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I mean at least in North Carolina You would think there's you know, kind of a swing state, but you'd think there's maybe some

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More Republican influence, but maybe that doesn't even make a difference anymore Well, who was it?

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I wasn't gonna talk about it. But who was it last week in what state, Indiana of all places this state?

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You know, I think it was a it was it was a member of Congress I believe who was saying we're gonna import whatever 20 ,000

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Haitians like really into the interior I mean we have Puerto Rico we have we even have

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Florida which is closer I mean, there's we could use people in Alaska, right? Why we put them in Alaska They really want to come to America or why do we even need to take them in at all?

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but That we're gonna import these very different people with a in a population that has a much higher crime rate different language barrier different religious

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They're different in every way. We're just gonna put them in the heartland We're gonna put them in Indiana of all places, right? Republicans are contributing to this problem as well even during Trump's presidency

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But if no one's gonna solve the problem, which I would love to see it solved on a local level Then what do you expect to happen?

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Someone's going to eventually demand. It's solved Or you just barricade the cities and say no one go in there and I guess it's gonna be a war zone and let them fight it out

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It'll be just it'll be like escape from New York, you know, those old movies escape from New York escape from LA it'll be like that those kinds of conditions will just block it off and Everyone there will have a shooting war and when when it's over then let us know and we'll come in and repopulate it

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Take it back. I mean you tell me right you tell me what the solutions are because I mean is it

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I mean some people want to say like Bring back segregation or break bring back some kind of like a very intentional type of you know

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I'm not saying many people are saying this but a slave type system again or something I mean, I there's various reasons.

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I think those things are impractical and and and on some level not right at least

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I think the In our current population with the lack of virtue and everything you really want to do that You really want to bring in a slave base system when we already have slave systems.

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We have the prison system We already have sex slavery. We already have I mean,

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I would say that a lot of the Benefit of the labor that's overseas that we benefit from is, you know, basically slave labor

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The illegal migrant situations basically slave labor. None of that is good. None of it all

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Produces more crime and we don't have virtue anymore So it's like that, you know, that's not really a solution at all to any of this

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It's we're so downstream from that What I think said at the beginning is the only solution to this.

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It's the only morally right solution to this strong on crime Low to medium skilled jobs and the an intentional missions effort from Christians.

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That's it Thought about this for a while for years and I don't see any other way

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So I wanted to just weigh in on that, you know semi quickly I mean we've been going for 45 minutes, but I just I you know, it sort of sticks in my craw to see all the

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This wound reopened every time a situation like this happens and it's not going away

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And so I think it's good to just put it out there. Here's a solution we have to craft this into a policy and then it has to be enacted and you can't just Shoot at the guy who wants to do something to enact something similar to that because they're the only ones that want to actually

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Solve the problem. I don't think Jamar Tisby is interested in solving the problem So I'll take some comments and then we'll go to all the various other news stories

44:54

We have cosmic trees and do they vote for those who do the opposite though? John, maybe the Democrats are stealing all the local elections

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I've thought about this concerning LA just because I have a connection to LA and California in general

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Things don't seem to add up or make sense and I have many stories along the lines of that that my relatives have told me but as far as Statistics and and study.

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I mean the Democrats have kept this pretty Untraceable so I don't know

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I was looking at recently actually was trying to find Evidence of stolen elections in California and it's all circumstantial stuff.

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It's very hard to prove those things But I think you are on to something that could very well be the case

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There's Democrat there's guys who there was a few years ago There was a guy in California in Los Angeles who was a

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Democrat But he was a MAGA Democrat and he was a businessman and he did not have a back

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He wasn't caught on camera saying racy things that would cost him all an election and he ran and they still

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Mowed him over right but that's in Los Angeles. That's where you have to run. You have to run in the Democrat primary and It's possible the conditions just have to get so bad and they've gotten very bad where you know, it's just a landslide in favor of someone who wants to do something about it, but it takes a long time to get there it just People this is the thing too with the acceleration is to think oh like, you know

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Like right now Nick Fuentes is on this whole Let's vote for Gavin Newsom over JD Vance and there people are debating.

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Is he serious? Is he not blah blah blah, but I I heard him give the pitch on his show. I don't listen to his show

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I think it's ridiculous to be quite honest, but I heard him give the pitch What was it two weeks ago saying look, you know,

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I I thought millions I thought you know, the the BAP guys the Bronze Age pervert guys. These are the pagan right people

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I thought they said billions must die and we basically making the The argument that things have to get so bad.

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We have to basically suicide ourselves We have to we have to get the Democrats in there We have to get the communists in there and just train wreck

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America before people will really wake up and then Then we can rebuild from the ruins. How come it never happens that way, right?

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It just doesn't look at the country Look at South Africa The conditions are so bad and they just keep getting worse and people just become accustomed to it

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That's all that happens people just adjust to it and the rich are able to shield themselves and everyone else has to serve

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Five under these horrible dismal conditions same thing in the United States people just adjust to these terrible conditions.

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They think it's normal I was in Chicago a few years ago I remember talking to some folks there and I was like Chicago's got such high levels of crime

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Aren't you afraid living here? Don't haven't there been you know murders like oh, it's not a big deal

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Yeah, there was one a few weeks ago like one block two blocks over and I'm thinking Well goodness,

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I wouldn't want to live near that but you just get used to it. That's what happens You adjust yourself like the frog boiling.

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You just adjust yourself to the new set of conditions John Carter says no majority of blacks anywhere vote for people who are going to give them

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Less free stuff and hold them accountable for their behavior. I mean, I heard that claim a lot

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I don't know if that's true or not I have to look into this a little more just because I know that there are some places especially in the

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Caribbean where you have very high populations of African immigrants or slave descendants and they still have decent incomes, you know largely might be tourism related

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They still obviously Haiti's not that but I'm trying to think was it Tobago? I was looking up recently that had that Maybe I can maybe

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AI can tell me right now I'm gonna just type in a queue here and see

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Okay, let me see Because I remember being skeptical. I'm like, I don't know this if this is as universal as some people are saying

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Okay. Well, it's giving me It's giving me rich areas to there are that in our country.

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It's not what I was expecting, but it's giving me Specific locales in the

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United States, so you have Ladera Heights Baldwin Hills, Los Angeles, California There's view

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Park Windsor Hills, Los Angeles Mitchellville, Maryland's Charles County suburbs Olympia Fields, Illinois, so places where People that make more money are able to escape and they formed communities that do have lower crime and Yeah, Barbados, I think that was the one

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I was looking at Barbados was kind of oddly It has a high population of black people

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But it has a low crime rate. So there are some places like that. I think it's a very this is a thing

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It's very complicated and there's so many Converging elements that cause these situations and I've been a guy for years and and of course,

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I you know I've read a lot of these You know the racial determinants guys bio determinants,

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I tend to call them and There's I'm not against reading every analysis of why there's high crime among certain populations in certain places at all

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I've you know, I've listened to Jared Taylor stuff going back years I don't even know if he would qualify as that to be honest

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But he's he's made arguments that sound similar that he's one of the smarter ones in that I guess, you know race realist type of direction

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But the thing is I think at the end of the day I don't know that it matters to be quite honest with you.

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I'm a shared experience guy. I think the experience you have with populations is

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What you base your policies on if you've tried everything or if you've tried Solutions that don't seem to work.

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Don't try those solutions try other solutions Human nature is also the same across populations, right?

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Sin is sin. So A place like, you know, where did

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I just say? Barbados You don't need those same policies, obviously Or maybe those policies are already there and they're being enforced

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Place like Haiti like if you were gonna make order out of Haiti It would be it would have to be so much more drastic than anything.

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You would even do in an American City Like it would be dictatorship day one No tolerance a militarized zone

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I mean that's kind of where Haiti's at and and what made it Haiti the way it is, right? I mean you have demon worship.

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I mean that could be part of it. There's a heavy satanic and Voodoo presence in Haiti. I mean that doesn't help right?

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You know, I don't think this stuff boils down to one thing I think there's a lot of things that converge to create conditions on the ground

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But it's the conditions over time that are the important thing. What do you do in the face of those conditions?

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What's the solution and I think there's some universal things for any population that are solutions.

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You got to punish crime There's got to be opportunities for people to fulfill their responsibilities before God if you don't have those then people were are going to go towards crime there has to be a public shame restored somehow and that goes for any population, but If Republicans would actually vote the mayor would be different But according to my 30 year old his peers think it's not worth it and don't even pay attention

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That's a big problem a young one younger people. I've noticed that too. They don't think that Voting is a solution anymore

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All right. I can only take a few more before we get to the next thing Federalism doesn't work with a universal franchise

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I think what you means by that is if everyone's voting for policies that emanate from the center federalism doesn't work

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Yeah, this has been a gradual Many gradual steps we've taken to get to the point.

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We're at now the thing is people are Generally better governed by those close to them than those distant from them

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So people who are have to live under the conditions they set for themselves tend to set good policies because they don't want to live under bad conditions

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But when you're governed by a distant Elite bureaucracy, they don't have the same incentive and as we've become more nationalized there has been more and more of a disconnect between those in Washington DC who now are setting more and more of the policies for this country and those in outlying areas and different sets of policies have to Be applied differently in different areas.

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You can't have one size fits all because different I mean do there's a rural population out in the middle of Missouri.

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Let's say need the same kinds of laws That are on the books that should be on the books at least and enforced in a place like Chicago.

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Absolutely not They don't have the same problems. So why would they need the same police presence? They should have

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Andy Griffith, you know and Barney five say they don't need people that are going to An army to stop basically what amounts to gang warfare that are their own malicious, so you do need uniquely tailored policies and Federalism takes that into account the government we have now though where things become more and more and more about what emanates from the center is not capable of forming a

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I mean Unless they become a totalitarian regime. They just can't even manage Everything that happens in this vast country

54:21

Let's see, I see the curse of ham stuff is in the chat. I'm not gonna get into that now I do plan on getting into that by the way at some point

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So I've asked someone actually to write about that for true script for some months and I haven't gotten a manuscript yet so I might have to write on it, but I I don't

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I do not believe the a lot of the Man, I'm gonna get into it.

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If I start talking about it. I'm just gonna stay away from it right now Cosmic ugly. Sorry, we already got to no offense cosmic trees and I'm gonna try to find someone else

54:52

Um John Carter wants to know what my argument is against segregation. We clearly can't live peaceably together

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I think for me so I Haven't seen actually a very informed

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Policy prescription to bring back segregation. It's just people ranting online saying it used to be better when there was segregation

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That's all I've really seen that we should go back to that. I don't think you can completely And I think you already are in some sense.

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Let me explain what I mean by that When there was forced integration there was a de facto

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Segregation that was produced as a result of that even where I live in the neck of the woods of the suburbs where I live

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There was a de facto segregation that just took place so people moved out of Regions that were high crime if they were able to do it and they made a life for themselves in the suburbs and yes mostly

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Different kinds of white people different kinds of descendants of Europeans, but there were also people who had a higher income who are minority populations who tended to be better adjusted to That environment and they were able to come out of the cities as well

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Because the schools went to pot and the society went to pot the businesses moved out and it created the conditions that you have now

56:10

So we actually are downstream from the kind of society people talk about when they talk about Well, what about the days of segregation?

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What about when you used to have? Separations between people's in these urban environments didn't that kind of keep people separate and keep people from doing crimes to one another?

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Because they didn't have the opportunity for it Well, I mean you could try to enact a policy like that I suppose in an urban environment, but the cats kind of out of the bag at this point

56:37

You already most of these environments are so Because the population that's left has been is so Oriented towards crime and so forth.

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There's I don't see like I said before a political solution They might pull sometimes and say they want relief

56:58

But then they're always voting for not having relief and I don't think I don't even think you would need

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I mean look at this Situation here. Would you even need a segregation policy number one? You're never going to get it number

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I think it's impractical number two. It's not the same conditions that you had in the 1940s or 50s

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But number three, what about a just a basic punishing this guy for the crimes He's already done wouldn't that have prevented this that seems to be the main thing that's not happening

57:25

If you just don't punish crime, you're gonna get these kinds of things So the next step would be how do you bring in a mechanism that actually punishes crime?

57:34

the Circumstances under which segregation happen if you read things like Read the

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Southern Manifesto. I don't know how many people actually have read that but if you go read it Read what they're saying and they don't want forced integration

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And the reason they don't want forced integration is because they say in there and this is not quite a direct quote But it's close they say for many years.

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I don't know if it's decades but for a long time black populations where there's a high black populations in regions in the south and White populations have been essentially learning to build trust with one another in other words conditions have been improving and these things take time it takes a gradual time and if you

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Forcibly integrate what you are going to do is you're going to create a new level of mistrust and There's going to be more crime and it's it's not it's not even an argument for Universally segregation is good.

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At least I don't see that it's more of there are people who thought that by the way, but in that particular document, it's more of a

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Circumstantial thing if you do this policy right now, it's premature and you're gonna cause problems what happened it caused problems and people who were able to pull their kids out of schools right away because standards went down and discipline went down and all the other things and I mean, you know read even what happened in the north in places like Believe it was

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Long Island race war in high school You know There's so many accounts of what happened after that and how these neighborhoods just went downhill

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But you can't put the genie back in the bottle. So I think your only way

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I mean, it'd be nice to have low a low police presence, you know, you don't and if you had a situation where people are

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Managing themselves then you could do that, but you don't have that situation and we don't have that option anymore

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It's too many incentives to move out of these areas if you're a high achiever So you the only way is to you know, and I hate to say militarized zone

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But you have to come in with a very strong police presence. I don't see any way around it

59:38

It's just a different situation now and the public virtue is so much worse now than it was Back in the early part of the 20th century

59:46

Question says Jen. What are your detailed thoughts on Candace Owens reconstruction on history and Christianity? We're gonna talk about that as the program unfolds

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I can't get into more on this issue. I'm more starting a discussion than Ending one, but I hope that this at least gets the ball rolling

01:00:05

Okay, let's talk about What is next on the agenda, which do

01:00:12

I want to do PCA or do I want to do Let's do Trump. So we can we do Trump?

01:00:18

I'm gonna play for you some clips from a Trump speech that apparently happened just recently

01:00:24

Here's the first one for you did the first ever Department of Justice task force to eradicate anti -christian bias

01:00:40

And for those people that are a little bit naive or not well -read there is a tremendous anti -christian bias

01:00:46

We don't hear about it. We don't think about it. Do you hear about anti -semitic, but you don't hear about anti -christian

01:00:52

No, you have a strong anti -christian bias, but we're ending that rapidly I will tell you it's a whole we're not much different world today than we were one year ago.

01:01:01

This is like Good for President Trump.

01:01:08

He talks about the fact that anti -semitic A hate speech quote -unquote gets so much play in the media, but you don't hear about anti -christian bias

01:01:17

And that's absolutely true. If you think for one second, it would have been better to have Kamala Harris. I Don't there's a bridge

01:01:25

I can sell you. I don't know what to say I mean we are despite not getting every single thing.

01:01:30

We are getting so many things I just didn't think I would hear come out of the mouth of the president of the United States And that's one of them that I really appreciate

01:01:38

Centering things on Christians again. Do you know that there's Christians in Nigeria getting mowed down left and right?

01:01:45

It's a war zone over there and you don't ever hear about it. You hear about what happens in Palestine, but you don't hear about the record numbers of Christians dying at much higher levels in places like Nigeria and other places to around the world like Pakistan and India so I'm really grateful

01:02:02

President Trump talked about that and wants to do something about it. Here's another clip We're all people of religion, but there are evil people and we have to confront that I just give my love and hope to the family of the young woman who was stabbed this morning or last night in Charlotte by a madman a lunatic just got up and started.

01:02:24

It's right on the tape Not not really watchable because it's so horrible But just viciously stabbed.

01:02:31

She's just sitting there So they're evil people we have to be able to handle that if we don't handle that we don't have a country people at the first day people went after Trump on the line for he didn't even mention that Situation down in Charlotte and there he is.

01:02:49

I mean it you know, the paint paint wasn't even dry yet The ink wasn't even dry and people were already going after him.

01:02:55

But no he did talk about it. He did talk about Erna Zarutska and I'm grateful that he did.

01:03:01

Okay. I just wanted to highlight those from President Trump. Let's talk about the disappearance of American masculinity.

01:03:09

Shall we? This is another reason by the way that in some of these regions in urban areas

01:03:15

Especially you need a higher police presence because who else is gonna do it who a peep

01:03:20

American men have been so Disincentivized they've been stripped of their backbone from doing anything that would showcase force or authority they just It's sad.

01:03:32

It's sad to see what's happened. It's been gradual steps over a long period of time But that's another thing that historically has changed.

01:03:39

I mean you can try to look pine for the days Right of your and say we had a better circumstance back

01:03:47

When we had lower police presence men were men we were able to solve our own problems

01:03:54

Different communities even in New York City you had Different communities would police themselves now for the

01:03:59

Italians that look like the mob Not saying I like the mob necessarily, but hey, look those guys.

01:04:05

I don't think anyone would argue. They weren't men, right? I mean for all the the problems and the faults and the the issues that needed to be solved there because they were also

01:04:14

In an enterprise of crime. They kept petty crime down. You would actually pay a fee because I know people who

01:04:22

You know growing up in New York they they saw this kind of thing they knew shopkeepers and so forth when they were kids and you would pay a fee to Make sure that you were left alone and the mob would do the police work right and different communities police themselves

01:04:35

Essentially, but that those situations those conditions don't exist anymore That's one region reason you can't go back because you don't have the self -government

01:04:43

You don't have the capacity for it. And why is that? Well because men primarily have been stripped of their masculinity they're not supposed to ever show something that might have been motivated by testosterone and It's and by the way,

01:04:55

I should just make as a little addendum here posting obnoxious things online. That's not a display of testosterone

01:05:01

That's not necessarily I mean I guess it could if you're you're making a major risk to your livelihood and you're about to lose your job because you did it and it was to Say the truth that was going to save someone or something.

01:05:13

But in most cases That's not that can be very much a fake kind of bravery.

01:05:19

It's not even real it's just bluster It can't it doesn't it's not a true test of whether someone actually is brave necessarily so I See a lot of that.

01:05:29

I see a lot of edginess When edginess is now somewhat rewarded to be quite honest with you in our current environment

01:05:35

But what about men actually being men? What about you know, the I think Daniel Penny was a man, right?

01:05:42

He stopped something Kyle Rittenhouse was a man, right even though he was a boy Those guys are both young but they they intervened to stop something and the mainstream media came after them.

01:05:52

They stood strong That's the kind of thing. We need more up. We need to hail those people As you know put them up on a pedestal not that they're greater than humans, but they're examples for the other men

01:06:05

But this is I think you're typical kind of grill American, right? It's this guy Okay, then well we have a man who has been stripped of his backbone there

01:06:44

Unfortunately, and I feel sorry for him kind of like I I don't feel no compassion for him

01:06:50

Who knows he probably had a long week at work. He's with his kids. He's out of Phillies game

01:06:55

He's like, I just want to relax want to see the ballgame. I don't want trouble. I have trouble every day at work

01:07:00

I'm tired and here comes this lady and a really short haircut and She walks up to him and she demands to have the ball that he caught

01:07:14

That he gave to his son to demands to have it. I think this is what makes it so bad It's not if it were just him.

01:07:20

I would say no big deal I think if it was just me and I didn't care that much. Okay, whatever the ladies, you know Maybe I would just out of principle.

01:07:26

Maybe I would say no to her, you know, but it didn't it wouldn't matter that much But here's the problem. He took it out of his little boy's hand

01:07:32

He's teaching his boy something in that moment and he takes it out of his little boy's hand that gift that he just gave him

01:07:38

And he says this is a lesson. We cave to bullies. We cave to bullies This bully came over wants the ball that I caught that I'm giving to you this older lady

01:07:47

I'm just gonna give it to her Well, this is what he said later We can't win

01:07:59

He was gonna get it anyways Sure, he wasn't gonna take it but We did

01:08:06

I decided to give her the ball. I apologize to you, but It was the right thing we just wanted her to go away

01:08:15

Yeah, and it worked out. You got a bat Yeah pretty cool Dad do you have any regrets giving the ball back?

01:08:28

Yeah, like I said, it's You know That was what we were there for we were there to get a home run ball so I thought

01:08:39

I had accomplished this great thing and putting in his glove meant a lot and She was just so adamant and loud and yelling and persistent and I Just didn't want to deal with it anymore.

01:08:53

You know, there was hundreds of people You know just staring and like I said she was

01:09:02

Very very very close and I'm you know, I'm dad of the family so I didn't want to do something

01:09:10

I'd regret and That was the choice. I made is to just hand the ball back and Tell her go away

01:09:20

Okay, if I'll just say this if those are the kinds of morally virtuous people that are grilling on the weekends and Having kids and trying to raise them right and staying out of trouble

01:09:35

We're toast right if every man was like that we're toast You can have some men like that in a society and not be toast

01:09:45

But if every man's like that you're toast because those are the little compromises that lead to big compromises

01:09:51

I'll just walk away from trouble, you know There's times to walk away from trouble.

01:09:57

There's times when it's not your fight. There's times when it's not a big deal There's also times to fight and one of those times

01:10:04

I think was this when you have someone who's a bully You know, it reminds me of the little starling that's chasing the hawk, right?

01:10:12

You see that I mean, I see that all the time, right? It's this big bird and it's being bullied by this little bitty bird

01:10:18

When you let someone like that bully you and you're letting your son and your daughter see it And you're saying this is what we do.

01:10:25

We we let someone have what they want Even if it doesn't belong to them because We just don't want trouble and you start teaching them the chief

01:10:37

Thing in life is to avoid trouble. You'll just hang your head in shame there are some things that are worth fighting for and I think if that's the reason they went there that they wanted to catch a home -run ball and they they did and He just gives up the main reason they were there.

01:10:53

I mean in his words, that's why they were there It was a special moment with him and his son he's willing to give up a special moment with his song to appease an older lady

01:11:02

Who just wants the ball? You're just teaching that son to continue that kind of Pattern the rest of his life

01:11:13

It's very sad to me to see that kind of thing I know it's a small thing But those small things end up getting translated into big things and we need virtuous people in political leadership

01:11:23

There's no solutions. No solutions will ever happen. If you don't have those people in political leadership,

01:11:28

I've lamented even recently I've talked about this a little bit that With the whole, you know, quote -unquote

01:11:35

Christian nationalism debate and I was just talking to Virgil Walker a little bit about this two days ago.

01:11:41

He's gonna be on the podcast We recorded a very short video, but it's gonna be up on Thursday. We were talking about it, though That you know that whole kind of g3

01:11:50

Christian Nationalist split for some of you know what I'm talking about. Some of you don't but it's a few years ago. I remember at that moment thinking if Christians are gonna get politically mobilized

01:12:01

It's going to look like it's good people running for office and winning.

01:12:06

It's going to look like people Producing materials.

01:12:12

It's gonna look like People getting into organizations and having institutional authority, but mostly it's going to look like people running for office and You can sit there all day and have theories of what would be good and bad.

01:12:25

We need theories we need Plans for what we would do if we have power, but if you don't have power, what's the point, right?

01:12:32

What's the point of any of it, you know, I and I don't I mean how many How many people have actually run for public office and I'm not blaming anyone in particular

01:12:42

But I'm just saying of the group that that is very adamant that Christians need to be involved how many of them have?

01:12:48

Actually become state reps for example, or even just local school You know councilmen or on the school board to try to start getting some upward mobility.

01:12:58

I Can't think of hardly any there's a few I can't count them on one hand though that in that group and That's the one of the things that I suspect is going on broadly in our country this guy

01:13:11

I don't want to stereotype him too much, but he's probably he's probably a Republican, you know, he's probably

01:13:16

Pretty conservative dad and just wants to be left alone, which we all do But we're at a point if we don't stand up, you know we don't fight for the

01:13:31

Culture that we have we don't fight for our kids future If we don't have people that fill the ranks of ice

01:13:40

Then what's the point right? Like we actually have to go do things that for it's true

01:13:45

I mean Reagan said it but it is true. Like freedom is one generation away from extinction. That's always been true It's always one generation and it always takes he

01:13:52

I think he said the blood of Patriots, but this is such a small test We have to be able to pass these tests

01:13:59

You have to be able to stand up to your local, you know, people are calling her quote -unquote a Karen But I I don't it's not fair to Karen.

01:14:06

So you have to be able to stand up to an obnoxious woman in Order to be able to stand up in greater battles that our society has there in front of us so my two cents on that it's just sort of a

01:14:21

Temperature reading of where things are at and Just I don't know. I don't want to there's no pole behind this

01:14:26

I don't know how many guys are like this just the sense of from me is that even guys who talk big tend to be Like this is it's just and you don't need to be obnoxious, right?

01:14:34

He could be nice to the lady, but it's just he's just saying no, ma 'am You know, you can take it up with Security guard if you want, but I'm not giving you my son's baseball.

01:14:44

I Hope you have a good time. I hope you can catch one later I'm not giving you my son's and if you keep persisting

01:14:49

I'm going to call security, you know It's really that simple and and then you show your kids an example of what it looks like to put your foot down Right, don't be such a pushover

01:15:01

Jennifer Shotwell says not sure if he was teaching and Conflicted how to deal with a woman. He seemed like he thought he might react with aggression the male -female conflict seemed present, too.

01:15:12

I Mean, yeah, as he did say he didn't want to do something he'd regret but what is it? I mean, that's the other thing.

01:15:17

Okay, let me just say this. It's not just aggression meekness is power under control That's what we need, right?

01:15:23

That's the virtue right James Lindsay said earlier last week power is not a virtue He's right about that powers technically not in the category of virtue

01:15:33

But power will be used by someone either virtuous or not meekness is a virtue power under control is a virtue so how about were the kind of people who

01:15:43

Don't do something that we would or would regret and all you have to do in a situation like that is ma 'am

01:15:48

I'm gonna call security, you know I'm You can call security.

01:15:53

Yes, you know go away. I mean the whole exchange was like 15 seconds. So He didn't even have an opportunity to take the basic first step of showing his son

01:16:03

This is how you deal You're not people like this your whole life son who are gonna demand things that don't belong to them

01:16:08

They think they can bully their way into it We don't give it to him. We don't just cave right,

01:16:13

I think I'm frustrated because I have a life a Former life as a serviceman and I saw so many people especially in the state of New York It wasn't as bad in North Carolina or Virginia But I definitely saw lots of people who got litigious quick and thought they could

01:16:28

I was working for a furniture company They could just get however much free furniture They wanted to get if they could just bully themselves into it and they would typically it wasn't my call

01:16:37

But they would get it from managers and stuff and I'm driving me nuts High sense of justice,

01:16:44

I guess Okay, Jennifer also asked if he actually caught caught the ball. I I think the ball like it hit a

01:16:51

A bench or something it hit I think it rolled and he he got it as it rolled or something so I don't think it was like a direct catch, but he

01:17:00

He did get it. So, you know, you could say caught but you could also say he

01:17:06

He received I don't know. He got the ball Okay Cosmic trees and one more comment on this kid said you can't win bro as a millennial two generations ahead of you feels badsman

01:17:18

Been there. That's what I was taught to You just can't win well, maybe you can sometimes and maybe it's not even about you winning

01:17:26

Maybe it's about upholding a righteous standard, you know what I mean? Maybe it's about not giving someone who's a bully what they want and that's the best thing for them

01:17:32

And that's how you love them. Maybe there's that too Okay, I'll do one more comment cuz

01:17:38

John Carter has one John if you'd caught that ball and given it to your daughter and a Black woman came up demanding it from you.

01:17:44

Would you give it up? I don't care what ethnicity the person is No, not not not if we were there if it was like a not a big deal at all and Someone came and asked me nicely

01:17:56

It would be a different scenario. But if someone came demanding my gut reaction is to say no automatically

01:18:02

That's just kind of who I am It's like the more belligerent you are the more I'm not gonna give it to you

01:18:08

And and sometimes that maybe that's not always right, but that's kind of my gut I was

01:18:14

I think time years of you know, and and I had a lot of people who of all kinds of different cultural backgrounds

01:18:25

Want to bully me or want to thought they could get something out of me as a serviceman

01:18:31

Because they probably were able to bully themselves in all kinds of other areas in their life and they thought this is one other area

01:18:36

I'm gonna get free furniture if I if I can just get this serviceman. I mean, I remember one time this late

01:18:43

She's tried to like block the door didn't want me to leave and stuff I've always

01:18:49

You know gone through those situations. I've been threatened, you know, it's weird what servicemen go through sometimes

01:18:56

I've had guns pulled on me a few times. I Never came to that stuff. It's just like if you do that to me

01:19:02

There's more of a chance that I'm going to not give you what you want. So Yeah, maybe someday

01:19:08

I'll tell you about the stories of having guns pulled but not for today, okay Let's see here

01:19:18

What do we want to talk about next I don't even know we have a bunch of stuff here Let's talk about this poll.

01:19:26

Let's talk about this poll So a lot of black pills, I suppose right men aren't men as much

01:19:32

There's no solution for urban crime except military almost militarization

01:19:38

I'll give you one more black pill. We'll try to end on some white pills meaning positive things but there is a poll that just came out and It's not the most encouraging thing, right

01:19:49

I keep hearing that There's all this interest in Christianity. I I'm paying attention as closely as I can to things that would indicate that like more

01:20:00

Bibles are being sold and there's you know, more young men are going to churches at a little bit of higher numbers, but Overall, I think we're actually still slipping

01:20:10

I think that things are actually getting darker despite some of the silver linings and this would back that up So this is the

01:20:18

Cultural Research Center from Arizona Christian University and in conjunction with George Barna's group

01:20:26

Barna research and New research from them explores the beliefs of American adults about sin

01:20:32

The prevailing views are more flattering than logical and more culturally fitting than biblically consistent One major finding is that just one out of every seven or about 14 percent of self -described

01:20:42

Christians Have a core theology of sin that is biblically accurate Wow That's Christians.

01:20:50

Okay, the finding regarding sin are part of the annual worldview and inventory More than four out of five adults agree that there is such a thing as sin

01:21:00

Reacher research revealed the population segments that are substantially less likely than the norm to believe in the existence of sin include

01:21:07

Gen Z Asians members of the LGBTQ community and people with no religious affiliation or who doubt the existence of God Now for Asians, I'm assuming that probably has something to do with Eastern religions and the idea that sin is an illusion, but It says further any substantial majority of those who believe in the existence of sin agree on how to define sin

01:21:32

You're three -quarters describe it as disobedience to God However, a majority of those who believe that sin is a reality also contend that there are no absolute sins

01:21:41

Okay, so everything's I guess culturally contextual Only half of all adults believe that everyone on earth is sinned

01:21:48

That's a problem, although the sinfulness of people is one of the foundations of Christian life Just two out of three self -professed

01:21:55

Christians contend that everyone sins Adults who attend Protestant churches are far more likely than those who attending

01:22:00

Catholic churches to believe everyone is a sinner 73 % versus 57 % for all you trad cats out there who are trying to say that Catholicism is just more conservative this and that I didn't even queue up the videos from last week on The LGBTQ whatever it was pilgrimage to Rome, but give me a break guys the stats don't bear it out the

01:22:23

Arizona Christian University study revealed that the adult members of Gen Z Who constitute the oldest one quarter of that generation currently 18 or 22 years old are far less likely to believe that everyone sins 41 % then our members of the three older generations 49 percent of Millennials 53 percent of Gen X and 57 percent of baby boomers

01:22:40

So every generation the belief in sin goes down Blacks 62 percent were notably more likely than whites 51 percent or Hispanics 50 percent to believe all people sin

01:22:51

While a mere one -fourth of all Asians hold that view Now that's this is kind of like a basic American view by the way to believe in sin

01:23:00

It's a basic Christian view, but it's also the reason we have checks and balances in our system It's to bind men's actions, but with the change of the

01:23:08

Constitution It's there's a suspicion about the potential man has to do evil with power

01:23:15

And that's why America's way it is in some ways and if we don't believe sin anymore There's no really reason to have the structure we have so anyways it let's see.

01:23:25

What are other there's a lot of stats here 70 % of adults Talk that while think that while sin may be a reality people are basically good at heart.

01:23:34

So that's a conflicting Mindset the mindset is somewhat more common among self -identified Christians 72 percent than among non -christian 65 percent

01:23:43

Unexpectedly and unbiblically seven out of ten theologically identified born -again adults 70 percent contend that people are basically good at heart

01:23:49

That view is also considerably more prevalent among Catholics and Protestants. Oh My oh my okay.

01:23:56

Well, I think that's all I want to say about this That's messed up right that's

01:24:01

I don't know what do you do with that right if you don't believe in Sin, what do you blame crime for Jesus said that the reason that people do evil things is because it's what comes out of them

01:24:12

That corrupts them. It's the heart if it's the heart that corrupts man then

01:24:19

That's going to if you believe that then that's going to also direct how you approach things like sin and crime the solution of high police presence and More religious presence and the need to work with your hands

01:24:34

I mean, these are all flowing from a Christian mindset of man's design is to work women's design is to help be a helpmate

01:24:42

We have responsibilities before God Sit power sin, you know must be suppressed by power by actual laws

01:24:51

And we were given examples of what a society looks like when those laws are enforced If we abandon the idea that sin actually comes from an evil heart then you do get the solutions that are saying well

01:25:02

We have a mental health issue. And so therefore The solution is to have more social programs that cost you more tax dollars to help people with mental health

01:25:13

And that's it. And so you don't actually go against crime. You're you're solving the problem in the wrong place

01:25:20

You're finding it in the wrong place It's I mean,

01:25:26

I think this is one of the problems with even policy prescriptions in inner -city areas because those are the areas where you have the highest

01:25:35

Liberal mindset even if people say they believe in sin. Oh, yeah. What does it even mean? Are they do they think sin is something that you know in many like charismatic

01:25:44

Pentecostal traditions? You will find that oftentimes people are sinning because the devil made him do it

01:25:51

Do they believe in actual depravity or people actually depraved and do wicked hearts actually have to be constrained or Do we live in a utopia waiting to emerge if we just had the right social programs in education?

01:26:04

And so we just throw money at problems Notice, I didn't say in my solution earlier education.

01:26:09

I don't see educate now education if it's overtly religious But no, it's that you we don't make smarter criminals and that doesn't solve your issue

01:26:18

So this is part of the problem, right? So this is where who was it yesterday that said it I Can't remember someone said though That I think was

01:26:27

Steve Dace Steve Dace said we just we need a national revival Like that really is a lot of what we need that's probably most of it if you had that like a real revival that took sin seriously and Knew that Christ paid for sins and there was a way of salvation that would

01:26:44

Take care of a lot of the underlying issues we have that prevent us from getting to the point of actually solving these problems

01:26:51

So maybe the boomers are right about that Maybe the religious right is right about that that we do need a national revival

01:26:57

It doesn't seem like we're getting one right now. It doesn't seem like we're on I'm always hopeful of some of these signs of people reading

01:27:04

Bibles more but I Don't see I mean I keep seeing evidence like this that seems to indicate that we're actually becoming more and more post -christian.

01:27:12

So Sorry, I apologize in advance for the black pill, but it's better that you know where things are at so that being said

01:27:20

What else do we want to talk about? We're gonna say the Candace Owens things for last. Let's play this clip This is at a

01:27:26

PCA Church from about a week in a day We have to serve

01:27:39

Melissa and I in our journey seeking the Lord's face is that our calling was to come into full communion in unity with the

01:27:45

Catholic Church a tradition that has shaped and Formed me for such a long time and to be a person of honesty and integrity

01:27:55

I eventually had to ask part questions that led me to conclusions that were both beautiful for me, but also very disruptive for my life

01:28:02

Which involved me leaving this vocational assignment that I have loved very deeply in so many ways

01:28:47

I Want to ask most particularly

01:28:54

GMOs elders shepherdesses leaders Comes around them and anyone else who wants to come on down to the front understanding that as Said before the service.

01:29:14

This is just see you soon Goodbye Go to the

01:29:22

Lord here Okay, let's talk about what you just saw.

01:29:30

I'm gonna show you Michael Foster was the one who posted this And here's what he had to say about it

01:29:36

He said all right Here are a few quick clips of a PCA and a park where a teaching elder pastor

01:29:42

Joel Littlepage says this I want everyone to hear it from me as your pastor because you're gonna hear it either way we had discern

01:29:48

Melissa and I in our journey seeking the Lord's face is That our calling was to come into full communion unity with the

01:29:54

Catholic Church and then serves communion to the congregation Including teaching elder and the current mission in North America coordinator

01:30:00

Erwin ince at the end of the service te erwin ince sends them out with prayers and blessings saying

01:30:07

I'm gonna ask those particularly GMOs elder shepherdesses leaders comes around them and anyone else who wants to come on down to the front put your hands on our dear little pages as We get to go before the

01:30:21

Lord on their behalf and understanding that as said before the service This is just see you soon.

01:30:26

Not full. Goodbye, so This happened with erwin ince now erwin ince occupies a position in the

01:30:35

PCA He is not this is not a small figure erwin ince serves as the coordinator of the mission to North America, and he's the adjunct professor of Pastoral theology for Reform Theological Seminary, which means he's sending people out to be pastors and erwin ince

01:30:53

Was on the hot seat last year. No, it was earlier this year. Sorry for his speaking of segregation for his

01:31:03

Segregated blacks only one I guess was it a luncheon or something and This was a big it came up at the

01:31:12

PCA meeting and remember Kevin de Young Was Telling someone who brought it up at the microphone that they needed to be orderly because they weren't being orderly and was this whole

01:31:24

Controversy. Well, this is erwin ince social justice warrior guy and This has nothing to do with race issues or any of the woke stuff this is

01:31:36

Literally soft peddling Roman Catholicism in a PCA Church now, whatever you think about Roman Catholicism The the older Presbyterians would never have gone for this

01:31:46

Like I'm a little shocked to see even erwin ince going for this I mean letting a man who's saying

01:31:52

I am now with Rome. I'm Convictionally, I've departed right I am now which the

01:31:58

PCA would say that Roman Catholic doctrine is heretical on certain levels and now he's serving communion

01:32:05

The Lord's Supper and they're sending him out and it's a big fanfare

01:32:10

You know, it's a I would think someone who did that it's a scandal and you leave quietly, but that's not what it is

01:32:16

So that happened Eric Erickson Retweeted this talk show host he goes it's not the local

01:32:23

PCA that needs to be reviewed It's the local Presbytery that has allowed this church to fester now I would say this the

01:32:29

PCA has taken it upon themselves to solve racism And now

01:32:35

Christian nationalism, these are just issues that are so egregious we need to do something about it This needs to come before the

01:32:42

General Assembly. We need to have positions on these issues Because if we don't we're gonna be overrun with whatever threats and You know, what?

01:32:53

What? Where are the threats? Who are the threats? I mean, is it Stephen Wolfe a threat? He's not even in the PCA You know, who is it who like it's just they don't even have a video like this to show

01:33:03

If there's nothing like this at a PCA service, they can show to say we need to craft a policy for the entire

01:33:09

PCA but there they go ahead and do it and On this issue though. No, no. No, this is just a local thing.

01:33:15

This isn't something the whole PCA. I'm just telling you It's just funny to see the the priorities where the priorities line up So Zachary Groff Who is he?

01:33:29

I think he must be a let's see. He's a PCA pastor Antioch PCA, I think he is so He says this morning at Grace Mosaic one of the elders of Grace DC Network inclusive of three constituent congregations under one session

01:33:44

Shared a follow -up to last Sunday's debacle My word not his involving Joel little pages announcement his defection to go to Rome This elder gave the uncomfortable felt follow -up announcement with admirable winsomeness a great nervousness completely understandable

01:33:59

It seems to me that he was reading from a prepared notes. I don't envy this brother for the announcement But it was unbelievable and it was a scandalous claim.

01:34:07

Here's what he said We just wanted to make clear that Joel chose to make an announcement about his new theological commitments during the service without consulting or the knowledge of the elders of those who participated in the service including our friend

01:34:19

Erwin or the broad grace DC leadership Including pastor Glenn. I have some major problems with this as Zachary apostasy is not new theological commitments number one

01:34:32

And he goes on about that number two It is my understanding that Joel has been treading water in the

01:34:37

Tiber for quite a while So they shouldn't have been shocked by it number three Regardless of what

01:34:42

Erwin or the other attendees at Grace Mosaic said last week might have been expected when they went to church

01:34:49

What transpired it should have stopped them in their tracks Along before Joel blasting the words of the institution if you've made it this far

01:34:57

Let me say this without any equivocation and he says this in bold If a Presbyterian minister stands up and says he is giving up the pastoral ministry because he is becoming

01:35:04

Roman Catholic then do not receive The Lord's Supper from him Right. It seems like a no -brainer right the

01:35:11

Westminster Confession of Faith calls Refers to is it the

01:35:17

Roman Catholic Church? I think it is as he synagogues of Satan Our confession continues.

01:35:23

There is no other head of the church for the Lord Jesus Christ Nor can the Pope of Rome in any sense be a head there up so this is the part of the follow -up that happened and There's a few

01:35:36

PCA things. I noticed one of the things another thing was I guess at Kevin Young's Church up until recently

01:35:42

They had shepherdesses and people were talking about that too. I don't even know what that means it's kind of a weird that's a weird term because shepherd is pastor, right but The PCA is good is in trouble.

01:35:53

I'll just put it that way. They're in trouble and the trouble is gonna be The I think the trouble is displayed depending on what battles they choose where their priorities life their priorities are they want to Get rid of all the quote -unquote racists and they have such an elastic definition of that it would include just it would include anyone who thinks that there's differences between peoples and Talks about it and they can't even come up with Examples where this is happening in the

01:36:25

PCA. It's just something we have to fight if if they you know for years it was like it was pulling teeth to get them to Really weigh in in any substantial manner on the revoice stuff, right?

01:36:40

But you know, they'll crush federal vision real quick I mean, this is I'm now taking the long view of the

01:36:45

PCA. I think some of these things are threats actually, I mean I at the time I said

01:36:50

I actually think you could write something on race and Make it biblical.

01:36:55

They can just make sure it's a biblical document that talks about that. We don't deny the

01:37:00

Imago day, right? Everyone I mean I saw who there was a guy I'm not even gonna say his name because it don't want to give the guy a free press

01:37:07

But there was a guy last week on X. He's talking about basically Insinuating minorities might not have the full extent of the

01:37:14

Imago day. It's like okay You can you can biblically counteract that right? And if someone wants to poetically figuratively say that someone who's a criminal which this wasn't but you know

01:37:26

They're less of a human or they're they're not following God and they're they're attacking the Imago day or so Like but this that wasn't what was being said

01:37:33

Make a biblical stand on those issues. Sure, but it's they're bringing in just Things that are not found in historic

01:37:45

Presbyterian documents to fight current social threats or social issues that they see as threats

01:37:50

While these this kind of things going on This is this is a softening of doctrine when you have the the director of your missions agency for North America giving an ovation to a man who just says he's defected to Rome and I don't understand it.

01:38:09

I mean that show I mean if Irwin in isn't right away Take at the soonest available opportunity fired then.

01:38:18

What do you even say about the PCA? right, it's it's just Swallowing at Nats and or straining at Nats and swallowing camels is all you can say

01:38:30

I think federal vision was something that needed to be looked into and so forth But you know what revoice is kind of a big deal, right?

01:38:36

like I've been watching the PCA from a distance, but I have been sort of keeping an eye on it from afar and I just am

01:38:43

NOT impressed with the The way that they deal with their problems.

01:38:48

It's I understand there's bureaucracy But boy, they seem to be pretty quick when it's something that they care about Okay, I think that's the last thing

01:38:58

Before the Candace Owens stuff, so I'll take some questions and then We will go into the

01:39:03

Candace Owens stuff real quick. All right, there's not a lot of questions. So Cosmic treason has some things.

01:39:13

Let's see Betty So surprising to me larger numbers of those calling themselves Christians that go to the Roman Catholic Church It's always been happening.

01:39:20

But I do think it is happening at greater numbers and the Eastern Orthodoxy It is happening. I think more so than it has before John don't know the

01:39:28

PCA and Presbyterians generally let everyone in and then use security to kick out troublemakers as does

01:39:34

As Doug Wilson put it Okay, let's talk about this clip.

01:39:40

This is how this country was founded on a Trumped -up reddit libertarian hissy fit that was not really all it was cracked up to be but was the basis for a destructive and a self -harm

01:39:54

Story, you know a founding mythology of a country that ripped out the natural System of government that is supposed to obtain over men on earth and pulled

01:40:04

God out of the system, too This is my British coming out. I know I actually

01:40:11

I'm gonna I can't even get through the whole clip So let's just real quick handle some of the things he just said a libertarian hissy fit

01:40:17

That was the founding of the United States. I don't think so. Do you think libertarians were?

01:40:23

interested in anything remotely connected to Christian moral Constraints and Christian civilization because the founders sure were they swam in those waters and they preserved those elements

01:40:35

So I don't I don't know where I mean, it wasn't libertarian It was localist in the sense that you had the state and Royal Charter state constitutions assemblies

01:40:50

Representative assemblies that had already formed in the colonies and There was two levels of government and you had one that that was closer or nearer and that one that was more distant and the one that was more distant was

01:41:02

The government in England and so you had an ocean dividing the two and when there became a conflict between the two the question was one of jurisdiction which one were the colonists going to be loyal to and There were those who were loyal to the crown

01:41:17

But remember it was Parliament initially that the colonists had a problem with it wasn't actually the king as the olive branch petition was an attempt to get the king to stop

01:41:27

Parliament because this was not the Arrangement that they were used to Parliament was changing the rules in their minds

01:41:35

So Parliament was now taxing them and quartering troops and calling their legislatures to inconvenient locations

01:41:42

And doing this all Unconstitutionally British Constitution is unwritten. It's based on tradition basically, but they're doing all these things and it wasn't theirs to do

01:41:52

These were the kinds of things that should be up to local approval. They had royal governors.

01:41:58

They had local assemblies They had a mechanism already for these kinds of things and instead

01:42:03

They're being told from a distant government that they must accept

01:42:08

These new what they would see as innovations and oppressive measures So No, it wasn't a libertarian hissy fit

01:42:17

It was an attempt to go with the local governments over the faraway government and King George did not intervene on their behalf

01:42:24

So they had a problem with the king What else did he say that I wanted to address there? I can't remember but They kicked

01:42:31

God out of it. You know, they where did they kick God out of it? I mean where he's just throwing stuff out there to say stuff

01:42:37

I mean the Declaration of Independence certainly mentions God where it was. God kicked out all the state

01:42:43

Constitutions the ones that were even revised in the years during and after 1776 they

01:42:51

All of them mentioned God on some level. What's he talking about? They kicked God out of it as if this was a secular libertarian founding.

01:42:59

No, it wasn't nothing like that so That's just ignorant and and I don't know why

01:43:05

Milo Yiannopoulos would say that and I have nothing against Milo Yiannopoulos I think I don't I mean

01:43:11

I I sort of I know about him from years ago back When the alt -right was composed mainly of him and Richard Spencer.

01:43:18

I haven't heard a lot from him in years I've heard that he is not homosexual anymore. He has gone through some kind of a conversion therapy

01:43:25

I I've heard that he's I think converted to some form of Christianity I mean,

01:43:32

I've heard these things but he's not been as active so I don't or at least as known So, I don't know what's happened to him over the years, but that's not an accurate representation of the founding at all

01:43:43

But I'm gonna there's there is something a little similar about the way this country was founded to what you're talking about which might suggest why this country's so vulnerable and so, you know, it's so so susceptible to precisely this kind of Psychological and political warfare because it is how the nation knows itself how it was born was in a

01:44:06

Fit of injustice that was corrected by a few brave men taking a stand.

01:44:11

That's the whole story of America Okay, so I'm in Okay is

01:44:17

England where he comes from is Britain's Great Britain impervious somehow to Manipulation and control do they

01:44:25

I mean Great Britain seems to have a big issue with immigration Just like we do except there seems to be worse in some regions

01:44:31

Great Britain has Problems with being post -christian beyond ours their official church

01:44:38

I mean, they're they're they're the defender of the faith their King the great monarchy that I assume my

01:44:43

Oenopolis is all for here. It's the natural state of government Apparently that great monarchy a great defender of the faith is now bowing to Allah with Muslims so you don't lecture me on America this and that when

01:44:58

Great Britain is farther gone and It's it wasn't in the structure of Great Britain. That wasn't able to defend them against what ended up happening.

01:45:06

So Please don't give me that I said now this is gonna bring us right into the occult and what they actually believe in because you're right the founding of America is an absolute myth.

01:45:14

Mm -hmm That's just Candace Owens like she's smiling with glee it's like this is just it's like my face like her favorite topic

01:45:21

It's gonna bring us right back into the occult We're gonna talk about the occult and you know, I Candace Owens. I admire to some extent her bravery over the years

01:45:29

I think that she's gotten Maybe she always was and I cuz I never really listened I've never listened to a whole episode of hers or anything, but you know, maybe she's getting kind of nutty

01:45:38

Maybe she's just going to bad sources. I think what's happened. This is just my from afar Observations is she has

01:45:46

She has gone through a number of different conversions Catholicism is one of them.

01:45:52

She also has leaned in very hard into The question of Jewish negative influence which

01:45:58

I've just noticed guys who tend to and girls I guess who tend to go down that path super heavy

01:46:04

They tend to get themselves into odd places and I'm not saying there's not a conversation to have on The influence that high successful successfully driven

01:46:18

Jewish people have had in certain industries and so forth, but people who start making that the explanation for most things as if it's an ideology is like that that to me is like that just gets you into very odd places you start fitting everything into your ideology instead of letting the

01:46:35

Information speak for itself and when you're talking about America, you don't even have heavy levels of Jewish immigration until starting in the 1880s

01:46:42

So the problems that we all have that go before that which just about all of them do to some extent

01:46:50

We're coming along just fine without the participation of Jewish people but this has now become kind of the key right and part of that is

01:46:58

I know because I've known people who've gone this direction is The Masons the

01:47:04

Masons are a sort of one arm of world quote -unquote Jewry and the Masons control these governments and the

01:47:10

Illuminati is another arm of that. In fact, they're connected and And and so Candace goes through I think part of it is her

01:47:18

Roman Catholic conversion She goes through these big changes in her life in a short period of time

01:47:24

And now she's just like everything's a red pill Everything that she wants new is all wrong

01:47:30

And she's now going to be the prophetess who comes to you and tells you about all the things she got wrong

01:47:35

But it's it's so fast like she hasn't had time to actually digest the things she's reading and the book she references here

01:47:42

I actually know about because I've read it and I that's when I think I decided to do this I was like, oh, I know exactly what she's talking about and it's bunk.

01:47:49

It's historical garbage. But here's what it is. Here's the theory I'm actually supported by the

01:47:54

French but hold on. What is the book that I'm reading the secret founding of America? I'm reading a book and it's basically just blowing my mind

01:48:02

It's telling me that everything you think you know is completely false But when I was in study with some priests, they sort of pish -poshed me

01:48:09

You know I was in the I was in England studying with some priests and they were just sort of like everything that you Americans think You know is so foolish like America was obviously founded by Freemasons and now

01:48:17

I'm really understanding like yes You had these Freemason lodges that came over, you know, the Scottish Rite and I berith and they

01:48:25

Just real quick the Scottish Rite didn't even come over until when the 1820s or 30s. It wasn't even in existence

01:48:31

In the United States. So, you know, that's not part of the founding at all Hey, they were the reason behind the

01:48:38

Civil War They were the reason but they were literally fighting for control of America and the way that they do

01:48:44

This is very similar to what we're seeing today There's there's this kind of mainstreamed lie. I mean, let's get the few ask

01:48:50

Americans Oh, it was just the tea tax was too high and this is what we did We started throwing it out in the harbor and we said we're ready to go to war now that I say it

01:48:58

It sounds so stupid. That's kind of dumb Years ago but people were people

01:49:07

No Paul Revere the British are coming it's actually Just Gay it's it's gay.

01:49:14

It's gay. It's in his gay Okay It's gay apparently to believe that the

01:49:23

Paul Revere Announcing the British were coming the battles of Lexington and Concord the skirmishes or the bat they were battles

01:49:32

I guess you could say they're the Boston Massacre. I mean, I'm just talking about the Northeast I'm not even talking about what happened in the

01:49:37

South But the the things that were centered around Boston which did not represent the entire country

01:49:44

In fact Thomas Jefferson and Patrick Henry thought that the Boston Tea Party was terrible that this was a bad thing

01:49:49

There were plans on how do we repay England for this tea? But this would do it boil everything down to that.

01:49:55

Yeah, that would be kind of dumb But that wasn't everything that wasn't everything That's part of the problem is if you have a cartoon of history, which many of us have been given a somewhat of a cartoon

01:50:04

Of history, it's very northeastern centric and it only focuses on a few things Then yeah, but maybe it is that in more so More than that as well.

01:50:13

Maybe maybe it's also the fact that British soldiers were being quartered in people's houses Maybe it may go read the

01:50:19

Declaration of Independence read all the grievances That the colonists had and this was written by a

01:50:25

Virginian. So this wasn't just unique to Boston or Massachusetts Read everything that they had the problems they had with the government in England It went way beyond just a tea tax, right?

01:50:36

And then well, it wasn't even the only tax of the stamp tax, right? this is This is taking a straw man knocking it down and then saying if that's not true

01:50:48

If that sounds far -fetched then, you know, the other option is my option here, which it was all Freemasons, right?

01:50:54

It was all Freemasons. So let's go through a few things I don't want to spend a lot of time on this but Nicholas Hager's 2016 book which

01:51:01

Candace Owens is reading called the secret founding of America in that book Hager posits that even the concepts like federalism were taken from Freemasonry By the founding fathers for the purpose of establishing a new world order

01:51:13

So the New World Order has the globalist vision has been there from the beginning George, Washington and all the rest that they were behind It's insane by the way, this is an insane accusation to make it shows a lack of understanding of Freemasonry and a lack of Understanding of the conditions that led to the war for independence

01:51:31

But he's not the only one that's been saying these things you have the all sorts of conspiracy websites that I mean

01:51:40

There's one called the cutting -edge that maintains that Freemasonry has been guiding our nation's direction since 1776 this stuff is not new and it's one of the reasons that I did my

01:51:51

Final paper in American It was a Christian heritage, I forget it was my grad school one of my grad school courses

01:51:57

I decided to look into this because I kept hearing these things and there's there's really weird claims that get thrown out there like There's a guy named

01:52:06

Alexander Holub who ties Masonry to occultism Which you saw Candace Owens doing claims that 98 % of the founding fathers were

01:52:12

Masons. Well, that's not true at all either So I'm gonna bring you through just a little bit of history of this

01:52:17

Yes, Masonry started in Europe in the Middle Ages. It was trade guilds. That's what it was it changed during the

01:52:25

Enlightenment and part of that was you had free trade there wasn't you didn't have the need for these guilds as much and and there was

01:52:33

The organization became more interested in what they call speculative masonry

01:52:38

But this was also dependent on the region you were in So one of the first places that you had this speculative masonry was

01:52:45

London London combined a few of the lodges into this one grand lodge and And so they were you know, it got a little more mystical and all of that but masonry especially in the

01:52:58

United States in the early years was primarily Christian in the sense that the people there even had to take oaths that were uniquely

01:53:07

Christian early masonry had oaths to the Father Son Holy Spirit. It was Trinitarian. Obviously that's changed

01:53:15

But if you don't understand that masonry went through a number of developments Depending on region and time then you're not telling the whole story

01:53:23

It's not one monolithic thing that always had this view of creating a new world order so Anyway, so operative masonry different than speculative masonry during the reign of Edward the fourth the

01:53:38

Oldest Masonic motto was God is our guide in 1594 in the

01:53:43

Lord is all our trust 1688 the Grand Lodge of England motto was in the beginning was the word And holiness to the

01:53:49

Lord. I mean, so these things it wasn't always this occult stuff that developed later in 1723 the

01:53:58

Constitutions of the Masons stated that it was expedient only to oblige brothers to that religion in which all men agree

01:54:05

So you start seeing ecumenism form? But George Washington Benjamin Franklin who were Masons very low committal

01:54:12

Masons, by the way I mean Benjamin Franklin's funeral the Masons weren't even present to do anything there

01:54:17

George Washington went to a handful of meetings. Yes. He became a third -degree Mason, but at that time you only had to attend two meetings

01:54:26

Or three I suppose in like a six -month period and Washington attended them when he was in the military

01:54:32

And that's how most people got involved was when they were soldiers and then he didn't go back For something like 30 years.

01:54:37

He didn't have any he himself would not let himself get painted in Masonic regalia

01:54:43

He had no attachment to it that all those paintings are from later So there if you want to talk about a hoax being put on us

01:54:50

It's the hoax that says that these guys were Believing all these crazy oaths these blood oaths and that they were the kind of Masonry they believed in was the kind of Masonry we have today and That they were very involved in it.

01:55:03

They weren't But the oath that he took would have said you must serve God honor the king and assist any brother By the contents of the sacred writ.

01:55:09

That's scripture. So help you God So you have Protestants in masonry it was a place for Fraternization between the troops during the

01:55:18

French and Indian War and then the war for independence The Roman Catholic Church condemns masonry in 1738 there's an anti -masonic bent in the

01:55:26

Roman Catholic Church Candace Owens has converted to Roman Catholicism Now there is also in Baptistic circles, by the way in Anglican circles

01:55:34

Which George Washington was an Anglican there was a lot more acceptance of masonry, but there were Baptists were also

01:55:39

Masons today I would say see that as a big problem Back in George Washington's time.

01:55:45

It was a different kind of masonry and especially masonry in America was more of a social club so anyway during the front during the the

01:55:56

French Revolution The Illuminati is suspected of being involved in that that this is where you get a lot of the accusations that Masons Were behind that that it was a

01:56:05

Jewish organization and stuff. It's from the French Revolution. It's not from the American It would let's see what do

01:56:12

I want to cover? I'm sort of going through some of the high points in the paper. I wrote George Washington Attended his first Masonic meeting in 1752.

01:56:21

He was 20 years old He went back twice it looks like by the time the revolution there was approximately 150 lodges in America 10 military lodges were set up under George Washington in the

01:56:34

Continental Army at least 42 % of the generals commissioned by the Continental Congress were Freemasons So not even a majority in any army made up of men from various regions cultures and nominations

01:56:45

Freemasonry forged bonds not just between soldiers, but also between soldiers and their officers So it's a place you could go and you didn't have ranks anymore.

01:56:52

You could fraternize with officers Which was an important thing for bonding Let's see, so it was nothing more than a social charitable club in the 19th at the turn of the 19th century according to Attorney General William Ritt and in 1749

01:57:11

Reverend Charles Brockwell preached from a pulpit of Christ Church in Boston that an upright

01:57:16

Mason is under the strictest obligation to be a true Christian and I have many quotes like this from the late 1700s

01:57:23

Ministers even talking about and acknowledging Masons in their congregations not seeing a conflict and so forth

01:57:31

Um, let's see, what else do I I don't want to go through I might do a whole podcast on this

01:57:37

So I don't want to give you everything right now So Here's a interesting figure as many as nine signers

01:57:48

Which is 16 % of the Declaration of Independence and 18 signers, which is 25 % of the

01:57:53

Constitution were Freemasons So 16 % of the signers of the

01:57:59

Declaration were Freemasons and you want to convince me it's a Freemason plot. That's kind of low I'll be honest with you.

01:58:05

That's kind of low There's suspicions about the great seal of the United States. But here's the funny thing about the great seal of the

01:58:11

United States Yes, Benjamin Franklin is the only confirmed Mason in the group that formed it

01:58:17

He proposed a biblical image of Moses lifting up his hand and dividing the Red Sea The Eye of Providence according to the

01:58:23

Journals of the Continental Congress was meant to be a radiant triangle and central to the scene After three committees looked at the proposal over the course of six years

01:58:30

Charles Thompson Secretary of Congress and author of the Thompson Bible was not a Mason Submitted the design modern

01:58:37

Americans are familiar with the pyramid was signified signified strength and duration and has been added by Francis Hopkinson Who was likewise not a

01:58:45

Mason it was not until 1797 that the all -seeing eye was first used as Masonic symbols So that all -seeing eye predated

01:58:52

Mason's using it You think that the dollar bill is Masonic symbol the historical record doesn't show it guys.

01:58:59

It's bunk It's historical bunk and it's ancient aliens kind of history There's so much more so much more.

01:59:08

Yes. We did have an anti -masonic party in this country. Yes things changed in the 1800s

01:59:13

Yes, you did have the Scottish Rite come in yes, masonry was delivered a big blow by the

01:59:19

By the anti -masonic party Yes, the Morgan affair of 1826 dealt a huge blow to masonry.

01:59:27

You had 228 lodges for example in New York And then it was reduced to 45 by 1840 so masonry was the influence it had the high point of masonry is influence was basically the 1830s and 1820s 1830s and then it did not play the same kind did not have the same kind of influence

01:59:49

That's all you need to know. That's all you need to know to know that Candace Owens is blowing smoke about this stuff It does annoy me

01:59:56

Because it's like, you know, I'm gonna tell you the truth. I'm gonna tell you the real history because I read this this ridiculous book

02:00:02

Candace Owens clearly does not know how to do primary source research and I don't I don't falter necessarily for that but what

02:00:09

I am realizing is that more and more so we have podcasters who are very good at presentation who are very sure of themselves and Who have a good style they have a good

02:00:22

Image that they can project and people listen to them because of the way they use words how they come across But not because of the quality of their information because Candace Owens is giving you very bad quality information

02:00:35

You know, I think this is one of the things I got into a discussion with some guys about Nick Fuentes No, I don't really want to talk about that much

02:00:42

But I you know, I I can't I saw I've suffered through so a little bit of Nick Fuentes so So I can understand him and understand why people like him and it's to me

02:00:51

It's empty rhetoric, right if you understand if you look at his show Basically, you have the formula for every show

02:00:58

At least everything I've seen when you just you add in a few elements How many times does Nick mention himself or his audience and their superiority, right?

02:01:07

That seems to be the focal point of the show like where we have an in -group and we're better than everyone We're on the cutting edge.

02:01:12

We know this we have the inside scoop It's sort of like a Gnostic knowledge you get when you listen to him How many times when he his back is up against a wall is it just you didn't get the joke

02:01:23

You didn't understand my angle. I'm playing 4d chess here. I'm just so much smarter than you and everything routes back into that I'm just smarter or he goes ad hominem.

02:01:33

Those are his only two moves He just starts making fun of the person right and that alone should convince you that he is right

02:01:39

And so the standard now for truth is the standard for whether he's believable is how many zingers can he get in and if you have the gift of gab if you're

02:01:48

Good rhetorician if you are someone who has a smooth way of talking Which doesn't impress me that much impresses me a little but doesn't press me that much then you can get away with all those things

02:01:59

It's the presentation that matters. It's not the quality of the information. I do believe as Christians we should make good presentations when we're gonna present things, but we ought to have and prioritize more so good quality information

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That should be the hallmark and we should know what to look for We should not have firm strong opinions on things because we heard someone's rhetoric if we're not sure we should look into it

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It doesn't always take that much time by the way with this thing Candace Owen said it wouldn't take you that long looking into it to realize something's wrong with what she's saying

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Take some time do some research before committing to a view. My fear is that on social media the

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News cycles are so short. What ends up happening is we never fully digest and come to a conclusion on an issue

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Before we make a decision about what we believe and we do it based upon What we think is common sense

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What we feel as we're listening to someone we are they telling the truth? Are they not they seem like they're honest, right?

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Those are the things that are hitting us and it's more dangerous in a video medium or an audio medium

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Than it is on printed medium. It's actually better to read things. I'm not you know, I'm not saying you can't use it

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Obviously you're listening to my podcast here. I think there's the spoken word obviously is important in preaching but when you have a written medium you take time to digest you're not getting the

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Inflections in the voice that can also be persuasive You're just getting the raw information and you have to make a choice based on the information now you're getting some of the rhetoric but It's less and that's what we need more of is people who are able to listen

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Know what questions to ask know how to go back to primary sources and not just take someone's word for it

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Because they have an incentive to believe something There are incentives to cast asunder everything that you've been taught growing up because you don't believe the people who told it to you

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You don't think they have your best interest that's understandable. Don't just cast everything aside though simply because You don't like the people who told you it make sure that you have good reasons and then cast it aside if you need to Right, but there there's not going to be a simple answer to every issue

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You can't become an expert on everything either and most things don't require you weighing in But I do think the founding of your country that's kind of a big deal

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It does confer identity and you should probably know a little something about it and so So be a student of history.

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That's I guess my encouragement So that's kind of the podcast and I said, I wanted to end on an encouraging note.

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The encouraging note is this We are on an adventure We are on a series of adventures in this life and I think right now in particular there's so much up in the air

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There's so Like I said at Michael Foster's conference a few weeks back there's so much opportunity right now to get the true narrative out there because a

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Pandora's box is open anything goes any explanation someone's has as long as they have a microphone, which most people do

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They can broadcast it So you have an opportunity to broadcast the truth on your social media in your community at your church with your children

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Where whatever you the platform God's given you you have an opportunity to get that view out there And I do think people are more open than they've ever been now whether people actually move towards the

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Bible and Christianity We that still remains to be seen. I'm Cautiously optimistic about that.

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I hope barn is wrong. People were dismissing Barna in my chat, and I hope they're wrong about that, but I think there's tremendous opportunity, but There's also tremendous opportunity for lies both the lies and the truth are equally being elevated So are you we gonna be people of the truth

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God put us here for such a time as this so get out there And I'll make sure the truth is what you What you put out there what you signal what you give boosts to?

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don't just buy into lies right take things with a grain of salt do the research and Do your due diligence and if we are people of the truth if we are solid if we don't let people down because our particular

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Theories and the way that we view the world actually can Undergo a stress test that we will gain credibility

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Christians will gain credibility and we have the advantage of having a Bible having a word of God that actually does

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Go through the stress test and it it is successful in every test that you can give it