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We're doing a new thing in 2020 We're partnering partnering with throughout all ages ministry and Stacy will tell you more about this ministry and introduce our guest

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Okay, Stacy. All right. Thank you so much Robin Let's open up in prayer before we get started

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All right, please join me Lord God. Thank you for this time. We are so grateful for your

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Technology that you have brought our way and that we could meet all over the world to proclaim your word and I just pray that you bless those have arranged this and always so Diligent in making sure this all works out and I pray you be with our speaker tonight as the words that come forth from his mouth will be from you and may we be blessed by his message and Be able to take it elsewhere

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Lord as we learn the truth of your word Lord We love you, and thank you for this night in Jesus name.

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Amen So I'm really excited about this speaker. First of all, let me tell you a little bit about throughout all ages ministry

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We're throughout all ages ministry 1530 apologetics we go into the public high schools junior highs and elementaries to build up the students character to intellectually

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Have them think about their worldview and weigh it with truth 65 to 85 percent of kids who grow up in the

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Christian home end up walking away from their faith. So apologetics is very

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Important and one thing I want to share about our speaker tonight him and Joe my husband my late husband worked on a curriculum together and came up with 12 to 13 lessons with Q &A and a lot of Resources and I were praying and please join me in prayer

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For God to use that to glorify his name now in regards to our speaker tonight today.

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His name is Joshua Josh wine, he is And he recently graduated from San Diego State with bioengineering and he has been working experience for 10 years working at the

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Creation Museum and Volunteering he also spent two years teaching high school apologetics at Christian Heritage Christian School in San Diego, which my girls attended to lots of apologetics to homeschool groups workshops college students so he has a lot of experience in what he does and his topic tonight is

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Humanity versus Christian Christianity. So go ahead Josh.

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Thank you so much for being our guest tonight Yeah, thank you Stacy. It's uh, yeah it's very nostalgic to be back in this group setting because yeah,

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I've worked at the museum for a while, which of course this group is based out of and Yeah, no,

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I love you guys and It's good to be back with you. So yes topic for tonight is humanism versus Christianity so we're gonna we're gonna be covering a lot of definitions, so if you're

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If you are unfamiliar with stuff, don't feel prepared. Don't worry. We're covering everything

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My presentation format is often a blitz. So yeah, I probably won't be addressing questions to the end and it's going to be a ride lots of information this is while I do enjoy, you know, the do a lot of Historical or scientific apologetics.

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This is more a philosophical Kind of apologetics tonight because I felt this was very timely.

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I gave this lesson that The college group at my church and Yeah, I I think that this is very relevant for today because this is

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I think one of the primary attacks against Christianity so Yeah. Yeah, here we go medicines versus Christianity So we're gonna start off with what is

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Humanism and I thought it would be very interesting to Look at the humanists definition of humanism first Okay, so I'm just adjusting the camera

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Now, I want you to pay attention to these definitions and like Yeah, they they're so glowing.

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Well, we well, it's gonna do a couple of them real quick Humanism is a progressive philosophy of life that without theism Or other supernatural beliefs affirms our ability and responsibility to lead ethical lives of personal fulfillment that aspire to the greater good

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You see that's from the American Human Association free of supernaturalism and recognizes human beings are a part of nature and Holds of their values either religious ethical social or political have their source and human experience and culture or this last one, especially it's

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It's so interesting to me Humanism is the light of my life and the fire in my soul to the deep felt conviction in every fiber of my being

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Human love is a power far transcending the relentless onward rush the largely deterministic cosmos

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All life must seek a reason for existence from the bounds of our uncaring physical world. It's kind of a bit of a contrast there

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And it is love coupled with empathy democracy and commitment to selfless service which undergirds the faith of a humanist now

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How do you strike me and how they should strike all of you is I'm as believers that have substance to Substance backing such things as our morals and our hope this is it's it's incredible how

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Just How glowing these are and it's it's like this is incredible This veneer of beauty this veneer of meaning but but what substance that where?

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Why should human love be a power far transcending the relentless onward rush of the cosmos?

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What human love is merely a chemical reaction in the brain and they're specifically defining Okay, they're getting their values without theism or without other supernatural beliefs so humanism basically you can think of it like Humanity's humanity's attempt to define morality and meaning for themselves without You know without theism or without any other higher power so if you have

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Let's say the values you get from some random witch doctor over in the you know, third world country

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That that's not humanism because it's attempting to get it from a higher power. It's just the wrong higher power but this is yeah, this is secular people looking to themselves to define what is right and what is meaning and The tragedy of humanism, of course is that we know there's only one source of morality and meaning so all other attempts to find it apart from God are bankrupt and yeah, you you're just It's all you can really have is nihilism you that you don't have any any meaning really and and the relativism that's humanists often employ which is

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That you just come up with your own meaning it's just merely it's optimistic nihilism. Okay, there's no value So I may as well come up with my own but it's but then it's just your opinion and you're just It's like playing

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Minecraft. You just keep setting goals for yourself. But really it's Nothing to it

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So Here's some yeah Here's the I guess the Bible's assessments of humanism as well.

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The fool says in his heart. There is no God They're corrupt. They do vile deeds. There's none who does good The Lord looks down to see if there's anyone wise anyone that seeks

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God and all they all have turned away They've all become corrupt. There's no one that does good. You can't they can they can

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Anyone who thinks that they have found meaning and good apart from God. They're they're deluding themselves according to the

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Bible All of us have become like something unclean our righteous acts like a polluted garment

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For I know that and then this last one the Apostle Paul himself. I know that he was so good wasn't he?

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But he said that nothing good lives in him that is in his flesh Nothing, nothing of his natural self was good.

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Nothing of his self apart from God Because he can he can desire what is good, but he doesn't have the ability to do it

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There's that's it's a bankruptcy of fallen man trying to find goodness and meaning apart from God Yeah, it's just think some of the humanists themselves are recognizing this

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Yeah, this philosopher saying that we need to begin with a noble why so he isn't he he clearly hasn't been attending

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There's apologetics group because he thinks that the Bible's been debunked but because of that he's like, oh well that he sees the the need for Something like the

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Bible and God to give moral foundation and meaning to people's lives. So what are you gonna do?

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Well, you gotta come up with a lie a noble lie something that people can feed themselves Now that they can no longer believe in God and the

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Bible that will that will keep them good and keep them Hopeful and trying to strive toward some meaning

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And yeah, he's Good luck finding that good luck Really deluding yourself and having it work

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So yeah, even atheists recognize the moral bankruptcy of humanism Now, oh

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I should have not revealed the answer so fast. Well, okay. This isn't interactive. All right answer. Here we go

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There's a famous biblical example of someone trying to find meaning apart from God and that's Solomon Solomon was my

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I see Solomon as a classic biblical humanist Not how he started out. He started out.

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Well, but he drifted away from God and you read Ecclesiastes and yeah, he's He's talking about life under the

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Sun everything under the Sun which is just the natural world Because of course

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God's above the Sun, you know, so If you just look at the natural just look at on earth.

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You you have Ecclesiastes and that's that is humanism I'm trying to find meaning down here alone without any

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Anything from God, which yeah, he turned away from God. That's all he had left was stuff down here. So Here's his here's his glowing assessment.

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The wisest man ever lived of humanism I've seen all the things are done under the Sun and found it to be futile pursuit of the wind and Yeah, life raising morality that consists only of things under the

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Sun are empty and meaningless Even the pursuit of wisdom apart from God Solomon says is striving after the wind.

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So yeah, they're Humanism's it's doomed attempts to find morality meaning and Actually, and this is not down here.

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I Thought was very important to add that it's actually humanism can be much more satanic than even many false religions

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Because not that it makes people most follow Satan because we know cults and false religions have people follow demons and Satan, but Humanism is more satanic and then it makes people more like Satan That it makes people think like Satan because Satan elevated himself and he wanted to He wanted to define things himself he wanted to He thought he could be his own master and the source of Meaning and destiny for himself.

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So I just thought I'd throw that out there now addressing the the

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Christians response to The Yeah, I guess the allure is the how good these humanistic ideologies can look and the criticisms that come from these ideologies aimed at Christianity so don't don't these have valid criticisms of the church.

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We're oh yes, by the way, the humanisms are looking at our popular ones right now, which are communism socialism and social justice and critical race theory now

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This isn't going to be political though, this is just a worldview analysis and the claim the worldview claims of these different Ideologies so I'm not so don't let the don't let that turn you off.

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You're not going to get political but those ideologies Communism socialism critical race theory and social justice don't they have valid criticisms of the church and these ideas seeking to do good

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Well, we have this caution from Colossians Be careful that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deceit based on human tradition

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Based on the elements of the world rather than on Christ It remember it's the Saints They're going to judge the world not the other way around And it's the light of the world and the salt of the earth.

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We should we should be setting the standard of morality and justice now These There may be some valid criticisms like the world they ought to see us marked by love for one another and if we're not doing

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That then we're not not really Following the Bible as we claim and we should yeah, we should be caring for the oppressed like like these ideologies also insist but the

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Bible is but we should remember the Bible is a source of morality meaning life and We can't

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We can't give up the Standing on that authority Even if even if there are valid criticisms coming towards Christianity these criticisms of Christianity it's a you know people saying that oh you were you were not loving enough

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We're not you're not really looking out for the interests of the poor or the oppressed well

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Those criticisms they shouldn't point us towards humanism because we know humanism is a bankrupt it should point us back towards the

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Bible and If we're actually following Bible, then we will be doing those things But yeah, we it is a it is an error is a mistake to Take To respond to those criticisms from Humanism and then go to humanism because we know that's that's bankrupt.

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Sure. Everyone can be a critic but Just think you have food just now like everyone can be a critic but not everyone can cook you know, we we've got we've got the goods on our side and Yeah, we should

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Chris these are Criticism should point us back to the Bible What's back to God all that to say

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So we're gonna be so yeah communism socialism critical race theory Need someone up real quick there humanistic ideologies

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Like we just went over trying to find morality meaning apart from God in his word These There's nothing new in these they're

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They're not novel ideas. Nothing new under the Sun humanism has been around since Garden of Eden when

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Adam and Eve first took the fruit They bear many similarities I am not sure why they're they have such commonalities and then they could be from their common origin in Marx because Well Marx was inspired by socialism and critical race theory is inspired by Marx So he could be the common thread in all of them or it could just be that it's just because they're

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Products of humanism and they they're similar because they're made similar by that Now, why should we consider ourselves these ideologies?

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well While they are economic political and social theories They make claims in many key theological areas in many areas that touch deep on the human soul.

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So claims like value rights morality sin Consequences for grace and salvation and purpose for human beings and it's that one and these ideologies are becoming very popular all not just in the culture and as well as in the church itself and we need to as people that Must live our lives guided by the truth of God's Word.

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We we need to know what else is on the market and how to respond to it, especially since Well, there's that well first Peter 315 that we should always be prepared to give a defense for the hope that's within us.

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So even for that alone like we need to be able to Defend what we believe against these these increasingly popular competitors

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And we we want to be shaped by the word rather than by the world so we want to Do that and we want to know

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What do these say and see if we're if we're being influenced by these humanistic ideas Rather than by the

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Word of God Yeah, we don't want to be carried around by every wind of doctrine by the trickiness and craftiness of men now this is

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I Want to give a very balanced approach to these Ideologies now, so I've been

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I've been contrasting them a lot with Christianity doesn't how I've been phrasing things But but this is going to be this is going to be comparing contrast.

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We're going to see how much overlap there is and whether or not we there are ideas from these that we can accept a quick summary of each of these three main ideology social justice

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You may be wondering where that went it's kind of found in all of them and it's very vaguely defined if you try to look it up on the interwebs is somewhat dissatisfying so it's

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Think of it like it's it's the humanism justice. It's people defining justice apart from God and We'll see how good they do over the course of this but that's part of all of all three of these.

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So Yeah Jump in so communism It's been around for a while but Marx popularized in 1847 it comes from communists

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Which is yeah over by the community. It's a political theory. This is your

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Oxford language definition Political theory derived from Karl Marx advocating class war and leading to a society in which all properties publicly owned

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Each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs sounds interesting, okay and socialism

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That's a political economic theory advocating them to the means of production distribution exchange To be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

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So kind of kind of similar. It's very similar to communism From that in so sheer mean to combine the share and Yeah, why it's so similar well

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Socialism is it will Marx and Lenin themselves considered socialism just to be kind of the initial stages of communism

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So you haven't you haven't abolished private property yet, but you're but you're sharing everything

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While so critical race theory while it was officially organized in 1989 it goes back to 60s and 70s and the critical legal studies movement

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Concerned an offshoot. Well, yeah, according to the Britannica encyclopedia Concerned offshoot of Marxist oriented critical theory.

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So yeah, it's it's based on that And if anyone thinks that isn't so you can point to them to the encyclopedia

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Britannica the core idea of racism is Is that racism is a social construct and not merely a product of individual bias prejudice

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So that's a kind of self -definition of that there With instruction to those so these humanisms they

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I've kind of summed them up together because like I like I mentioned earlier there They make very similar claims in a lot of these areas on rights meaning

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Values stuff like that so we can we can just kind of sum them all up tidily on the left and can contrast it to Christian their right so communism socialism

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Socialism both use the state to substitute God as a source of rights meaning and physical provision now

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Bible on the other hand God is a sole authority to determine rights and meaning and he's also ultimately the source of physical provision you can

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Drop this down. It goes up later if you'd like or watch the recording later and find again However, you want to get up these verses.

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You don't have time to read them all Communism socialism drop mankind in socio -economic classes and thrives in class envy if you don't have and that was you know,

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I'll back up the previous slide that gets advocates class war that kind of the kind of the machine to drive things if you you can't be revolutionizing your society if people are content with the way things are and Yeah, and he is the motivator of choice to get the revolution going

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But oh, but we're not supposed to have it anything that belongs to your neighbor This is where and I want to make a

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Tangent right here When looking this up that there's there's a lot of ideas of it's it's easy pick up ideas from the culture around you and One one such idea here that I realized that I had just accepted was that but found that it's actually from it's actually a humanistic idea is

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That income inequality is inherently bad Which it it could be bad

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But it also could not be like what if you had two people that were making that's had different amounts of stuff

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But they were both happy with it then it actually wouldn't be bad in that case, but But we're we're trained by the culture around us.

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That's that's one such thing. I believe that Oh income inequality. That's bad But is it though it could be but it also could not be so I'm just This is so this is meant to it's like a

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Yeah, a check to see how much of the ideas were picking up from these humanistic philosophies and how much are actually a

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Bible -based Anyway, I digress The other one is one of the basic tenets of critical race through identity depends on an intersection of different social categories

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And such as race class and gender but oh there is but according to the

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Bible and how God sees us Therefore there is neither Jew nor Greek not race. There's neither slave nor free man a

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Class there's neither male or female no gender for you are all one in Christ Jesus God doesn't

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We're not he doesn't define us by our classes. He defines us as individuals and and the identity that really matters to him is whether or not we're in Christ and that I think that's that's evidence the

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The sole significance of that identity is evidenced by how Christians from around the world can can bond even if they don't even speak the same language even if they they they look nothing like have become entirely dissimilar backgrounds and yet we share this common bond in Christ and That's how it ought to be is

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That's that's all that defines us is Christ so Yeah, I mean the other stuff is it's cool

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God made that too but It's not it's not nearly so meaningful as As our identity in Christ and how how

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God sees us Okay, so contrasting principles of humanism versus principles of Christianity So this is all

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This is all humanism right here So one way humanistic governments often to value people because you don't have the

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Bible's what you're going to do now So they often value people by their contribution to the state. That's just that's just pragmatism.

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You know what? Yeah, what are you going to go off of there the production is a productivity is a

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I mean It's a good metric I guess if you don't have anything else to work with But the unborn the elderly and the handicapped don't contribute nearly as much as everyone else.

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So they're valued less Since everything you have came to you from the state Marxism and socialism abolish all rights of inheritance a

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Powerful humanist the government will always compete with God for authority over his people. So churches are a threat.

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That's why Communism more more martyrs have died under communism than under any other

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Any other ideological system and then that includes Islam Which Islam has has had a crack at making martyrs of Christians for hundreds of years longer than communism, but then and other humanisms, but that communism is that's

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Yeah, that's killed the most Christians. Most Christians have died under communism. So anyway, the marks himself

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The first requisite for happiness of people is the abolition of religion. So you guys Have against religion, but you you'll naturally if you're trying to find life and meaning for yourself apart from God you're not you're gonna compete with people trying to get those things from God because they'll be defining things differently and it's just gonna it's

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Yeah, you're gonna drag your society back you won't be able to have society the way you wanted

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There you got all these people flying a different flag marching to a different drum Can't have that. Oh Marks of this

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Yeah, the this quote he doesn't really paint himself as um, this is a nice humanitarian

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My object in life is to dethrone God and destroy capitalism. Okay, at least he was very clear We make war against all prevailing ideas of religion of the state of country of patriotism

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The idea of God is a keynote of a perverted civilization. There must be destroyed That's nice.

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Thanks marks And one note I want to make quick on an example of that first point here the

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What happens when you have a humanistic society a society apart from God to try to try to value place value on people and My great -grandparents have had many friends that well nations in them, but I've had a few friends that Have been euthanized against their will euthanasia is

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Even where it's illegal it it is a problem in European countries first world countries one example,

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I'm thinking of right now is Germany, I think it was in Germany that's my great -grandma's friend was

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Yeah, she was euthanized against her will and my great -grandma was told that so she had just she had passed last night

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Right after you saw her so yeah, kind of scary, but oh I realized that Time may become an issue.

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So Stacey just turn your camera and wave wildly at me if that happens. Oh, yes,

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Robin Belgium does that too? Yep, it in first world countries and are doing that so it's crazy

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But that but we don't have God people drift a far away It's it's incredible how how it happens how societies drift and you don't have that anchor on God's Word now

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This is a big quote. I'm gonna ask it, but but you'll find this very interesting

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I think the communism attributes alternate value to the state. And so this is a Someone's assessment of communism.

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I'm trying to guess who it is without looking ahead at it so Man has made from the state from that state for men

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Well, sorry, not the state for men man has no inalienable rights. His rights are derived from the state

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His liberties of press and assembly are restricted by the state stream to vote for him to listen read man Must be the dutiful servant of the omnipotent state all this to the contrary

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Not only is a Christian doctrine of God, but also the Christian lesson of man Christianity insists that man is an end in himself because he's a child of God made in God's image man is

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More than an animal a producing animal guided by economic forces He's a being of spirit crowned of glory and honor and out of the gift of freedom

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The ultimate weakness of communism is that Rob's man of that equality for that quality, which makes a man He's stripped of conscience and reason in spite of going talk about the welfare of the masses communism's methods and philosophy stripped man of his dignity and worth

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Leaving him as little more than a depersonalized car the ever -turning wheel of the state from Martin Luther King jr.

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The Social justice person and This was his assessment of communism, isn't that interesting but he but he was calling out how

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Yeah, how he saw it he that it is it it can't deliver what it promises what people think that and that it's going to because it's

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It's apart from God it it ultimately Reduces humans and Rob some of meaning and morality

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Isn't this an interesting quote down here to Christian love which applies to all even to one's enemies is the worst adversary of communism that comes from the

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General Secretary of the Executive Committee of Communist International It's not interesting.

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So he seems he himself seems to think that There's something about Christianity.

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That's is antagonistic to communism Excuse me so There's a little bit of attention, but I thought it was worth going into Martin Luther's assessments of Communism there

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So principles of humanism versus principles of Christianity and this is we're going on social justice now finally got to it

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Humanisms so this is This is really all you can get apart from God people are merely biological machines

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Yeah, if God didn't make him then they're just products of their genetics and their environment including society

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Contrast that with Christianity while influenced by society environment people have many things built in by the manufacturer of God and such as a moral compass

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Sin nature is another thing about that's tragically built in because since the fall But free will is another thing placed there by God.

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They're not just machines Now It's or now a

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Bit of a tangent there. I hope as we're reading some of these you guys can think of modern examples

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In society where these principles are playing out Oh Looks like I do explain it.

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Okay. All right I'll let this explain it. So as words of individuals problems of society in under humanism, but in Christianity people will do their free agents

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And so the society's problems can be traced back to the individual. So It's it's kind of flipped rather rather than the individual just being a part of their society.

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No, they people are free They're not machines. They're not just programmed by their environment instead society is comprised of the actions of free individuals

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Yeah, you put a free individuals Social justice if you want to help or fix people you must fix the society

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Young under Christianity if you want to fix society you must change people's hearts It's flipped

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People are the product of their environment. So their class past identity must be considered injustice but under Christianity justices and Judaism because this is

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Old Testament, but The justice is meant to be impartial that you you just you you just consider the crime

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You consider what was done because ultimately people have free will and moral responsibility Under humanism no objective morality to satisfy with justice, but So you have to you have to maximize other things and this is what

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I was going to get into considering all these previous points You can that's why you have the humanistically minded

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Political leaders not to get political but you but You have leaders

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Not they want to learn to rehabilitate people or they think that if you just If you just show them kindness then they'll well then you're reprogramming them, right?

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so as if some commits a crime and you just you just let them off then they should be good now and so Yeah, you have you have all sorts of people being a lot of prison and They're after doing very bad things

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That's they're they're working with this. So not and not to get into the

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Justice of the justice system, but that's that explains where those where those actions come from They're informed by these humanistic principles of social justice

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Another last thing because of the group's identity Because you your identity comes from your group the descendants can be guilty of their ancestors actions

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Whereas in Christianity the Sun will not bear the punishment of the father's iniquity So you're not you don't just carry on the guilt of your of your ancestors

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And I'm I'm sure you guys can think of an example Reparations, I think it's the biggest one where people are insisting that's the the sons do bear the iniquity of the fathers which

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That's humanistic. It's a Doesn't doesn't seem to be Christian. Yeah, of course.

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These are discussions to be had. These are important things to That we should have an answer for but we should realize

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How these ideas are being informed are these is that biblical justice or is that or is that some other system of justice?

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that That's insisting on those things. All right, so principles of humanism

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Where's Christianity now going to personal responsibility and sin? This is a big deal because the whole of Christianity is trying to Not the whole of Christianity but a really big part is trying to address the sin problem so you can have a relationship with God and I mean the rest of its relationship

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God, but Yeah, it's a big deal. So how what's the humanistic perspective on it?

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All right, so I know humanism you are a product of your environment and the things that happen to you Okay, because you're you're just a machine after all in Christianity.

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You're a part of the choices. You've made from the options presented to you So sure your environment has something to do with it, but but ultimately you are a free agent now it in humanism

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Of course, it wants to break up things in classes. So you've had the the oppressed class and the oppressor class

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And really that's it's too it's a very simplistic way of dividing the world because I mean

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We all like we all in in different scenarios in different situations I've either been the oppressed or been the oppressor we just because someone is

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Just because someone is kind of No In unfortunate circumstances and beat down Doesn't mean that they can't then do the same to someone else because ultimately we are

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We're jerks. We've got that sin nature and so Yeah, even even victims can victimize people

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But anyway, the aggress so for the oppressor class on the humanism, you've got specific inherent irredeemable sins but in Christianity everyone's got a sin nature and chooses to sin and Tim and for the oppressed heavy the evil in you is not a result of your sins, but the sins of others

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But again with Christianity, we there's not that distinction being made between the oppressed and the oppressor

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I mean not not before God in We are supposed to stand up for the oppressed in In society, we shouldn't we should be against oppression certainly

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People taking advantage of other people but but before God there's

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Everyone has a signature and chooses to sin, but Christ can cleanse us from all unrighteousness. It's not and the real danger is not

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When someone is the real danger for someone is not when they're deceived into thinking that they're an oppressor

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I mean that that's hard for them to that. They're if they're just classified as oppressor because then they're just Because The system that classifies them as that doesn't offer

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Sins, there's not well, sorry doesn't offer redemption for sins. You're just you're just Irredeemable.

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Yeah there is there there's no There is no system for redemption in humanism but but the worst part is if people are convinced that they are just oppressed that they're merely victims because there's a certain self -righteousness that comes with being a victim because it nothing your problems are not your own fault and You're getting this idea that you're you're just You just get

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Wrong done to you that you don't do wrong Victim victimhood actually, yeah, it comes.

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Oh, let's say looks like I say it again later But yeah, but self -righteousness that and they often comes with being with this victimhood mentality

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It's one of the greatest defenses against the gospel against the conviction of the Holy Spirit Which is very dangerous

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Yeah, looking at this either under humanism either you have sinned without redemption or you have no sin at all How how is the gospel supposed to get in there if people if people have accepted this stuff?

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This completely underline undermines the need for personal grace and the good news of the gospel The greatest barrier people can have to receiving gospel self -righteousness.

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And like I said, they can work is a form of self -righteousness now You can see why the enemy would would so love

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Spreading these ideas because this yeah, this is really good gospel armor If you don't want the people to receive the gospel just get him to Just get him to accept this

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Yeah, because everyone's a thing and it's so this can be sold so easily to them the marketing on these ideas is tremendous because Everyone's a victim in some way.

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And so everyone can be convinced that they're a victim and That's no,

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I'm not the one in need of a savior there in need of a savior I am in need of them to be saved like they you know,

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I'm a victim and I'm not the one in the wrong Also If you recall from our social justice line

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That the the focus is on the ills of society because if you want to help the individuals, you know, you fix the society.

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So No one looks no one looks at themselves And that their personal need for a savior the society needs saving but people don't people look at themselves

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So what is the assessment here final assessment? I know I've said a lot been going really fast, but what can we conclude about these ideologies?

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so at best they provide valid critiques to Christians failing to do things such as Help the poor strive for justice show compassion

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Love one another turn from the sins of their fathers These are and these are all things that were commanded to you in Scripture.

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You've got the scripture right here But again these critiques they ought to point us back to the scripture and Jesus not to humanism because while they can make the critiques they can't they can't provide the the actual morality the actual meaning and or Or that aside the power to actually change.

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It's actually be different That of course comes from the Holy Spirit Now what these are certainly is the distractions from our key focuses as Christians, which is sin righteousness and judgment of which of course the

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Holy Spirit is has come to convict the world of sin righteousness and judgment and of the gospel these are these help put people against the the truth the convicting truth of the gospel and the good news that that's a it's

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They don't you'll have you have a person that they're they're convinced they're no longer they're not drowning even though they are and so they they won't they won't seek saving and Christians that find themselves pursuing these humanistic ideologies there

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They're in a vain pursuit of good without a real solution to the world's problems. And it's it's tragic to see

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Christians but also churches if Look at they respond to the valid criticisms against the church from the world by then trying to be more trying to trying to go with the world trying to be you know trying to be humanistically more trying to Not not stand on the

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Word of God and stand on the authority of God, but but instead follow these these man's attempts to To fix society to To do to accomplish justice

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We can't allow ourselves to be sidetracked from what the real problems are and who the real solution is the real problem.

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It's not It's not There's a whole host of factors which are Sure symptoms.

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It's it's not you know income inequality or racism even though these are

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These things racism is certainly bad And you have an equality I mentioned earlier that it might be

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But yeah bigotry all all these things that there those are symptoms of sin, which is the real problem and and the real solution is is

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Jesus so Can we these old diesel model our focus and they'll they'll distract us from what the problem is and and so we won't recognize what the solution is so At worst

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These are these are calculated deceptions like many cults are this is like this At worst these ideologies are our cults of men that they they

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Yeah, well, I worry the best here. I guess they hook Christians through superficial similarities and derail them through fundamental differences which

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Maybe maybe you have a couple churches in mind where they've gone this route But these are and at worst these are heretical substitutions to the gospel undermining biblical concepts of sin and the need for a

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Savior by the means of Satan to vilify Christianity by Yeah, you define a new morality and okay now well now

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Christianity is wrong because Christianity isn't fulfilling this new morality that that society just came up with and also like mentioned earlier to People people buying these they set themselves in the place of God suddenly they're at the helm of their own lives and The ones that define what's right and wrong for themselves the meaning your destiny

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So Could be those things that you Judge for yourselves, but yeah, these are these are what they could be

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So I'll just say This is a there's a good Prompting to examine ourselves against the culture around us and against the

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Bible see who we're really what we're really following and Also, this is a just some

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I guess some tips and reminders. That's what is Stand on the authority of God's Word.

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Don't don't give the moral high grounds to morally bankrupt ideologies and don't

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Yeah, don't don't follow man's ideas trying to try to fix the world's trying to solve society's problems because ultimately there's there's only one solution

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Society needs a gospel. They need to know the good news. They need to know Jesus. So are

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Anything that would they would distract us from? Giving a solution to society other than the gospel this

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I mean There's a lot that is a lot of work that Christians have to do in society such as you know

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Like Paula, there's lots to do in politics lots to do in economics, but but that's that's just managing things so with what will really address the root of the problem is we need to People need to hear the good news and they've got to we've got to know the actual

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Powerful truth of God's Word So I'll Open this up to questions

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That was very good Very insightful for such a young man attending a university

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Did um, how how was that? Attending the university Knowing that you're a believer and you know, six -day creationists, etc

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Yeah, that's it. That's a good question Well, I must say so I I went to UCSD which is quite

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Quite godless But even they have a statue of the Sun God as they're on campus and the

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Sun God's their mascot Yeah Walking by that thing the class and being like, oh, yeah that guy's on the other team.

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I like that guy but I have to say I was well prepared by my parents by People older than me by the

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Christian Museum to things like that that I really wasn't I wasn't ever in doubt with my faith and then my faith was not one that was merely defensive, but Yeah, I but offensive to I guess

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So I didn't actually What's that? That was gonna be my follow -up question

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It did you were you able to give the gospel because you know, we're losing our our children as they enter college were you able to Witness on campus or did you share the gospel at all?

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Yeah, so I I didn't witness on campus not like I went to grab

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I didn't grab a box and a microphone and stand up and start speaking people But what it was

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I I wasn't involved in a Christian club I didn't find one of those but I was really busy with other things by joined a secular club

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Called open dialogue that it was awesome All I did was practice talking about controversial things about getting angry at each other and there's a really neat club lots of opportunity to To give the

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I guess the Christian influence. And so I was I was like the Christian mole in the group And kind of Spinning conversations towards things that mattered more giving the giving the biblical perspective on things and gradually as people knew me better and Like and they wouldn't be turned off By by I guess knowing

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Knowing what what what team eyes on? I became more openly Christian and Actually, I did have the opportunity to give the gospel on there

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At least once a couple times and all sorts of people on there a whole wide mix.

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I I was very much In the minority as a Christian in that group, but it was really really cool opportunity and I wish

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You down or anything in America. I mean you have you have some opposition actually, but of course it

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It was well moderated people were very civil But I did have

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I did mix I mean some people were upset sometimes and I Wish I could go into stories.

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Maybe maybe someone will ask me it before if someone put a question to chat about a story, but Yeah, no,

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I I did I I did actually have some some good opportunity and I was very appreciative of that But that's great my final comments.

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I wish I wish other People could have been prepared as I was because my college experience was very different from a lot of Christians So yeah, no, it's we want all our students to be prepared and that's why we have this ministry and Stacy's ministry throughout all ages

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Do you have a website or a book or anything that you're doing Josh that you might advertise right now?

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It's quite a question, but no, I actually don't Now I'm just going to church and working really

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I have a book right now Yeah, no, maybe maybe

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I'll write one maybe that I'd be pretty cool if I had a book to my name, yeah Terry did you have any questions in live stream?

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I Don't know. There's no questions from Facebook except that Glenn just wants to express his

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His how impressed he is with Josh and that he's proud of Josh. Oh That's touching man, thank you

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Glenn. I hope they can hear me. I really appreciate that. Yeah Glenn was one of my Well, I guess you could

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Yeah, he was a mentor in a lot of ways at the museum I I mean even with even being the tour guide like I was aspiring to To be the like I was not coming to her guidance eyes as looking him in a lot of ways and but also, yeah, it's just a

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Just a another great and one of the great influences I had working at the Creation Museum So why not?

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I was going there ten years and both you and Glenn and Nathan and now and I'll really made it a special experience wait, um

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Man it's a Thank you Alan, yeah, it's that's cool

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There you go What I'm gonna do Josh is I'm gonna shut off the live stream and well first I'd like for you to pray us out

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And then once you're done praying I'm going to turn off the live stream and the recording and then we're going to take off our cameras and our microphones and Question you on a more personal level.

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I mean not about you Scratch that. Okay. Let's just have you pray.

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Can you pray us out? Yes Yeah, Lord, thank you for this opportunity

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This is real real great privilege being able to I guess Talk with all these all these old friends again and and some some new ones, too but yeah, thank you.

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Thank you also for for your word and the just the The anchoring truth that's in it

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I pray that you would you'd be inspiring us to just dive deeper into that thing and deeper into deeper into your word to really know what's true so we can then recognize any counterfeit and How that we'd be guided by your spirit and in these increasingly

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Turbulent and Sometimes hostile times We can be there can be good ambassadors of you not only just not only knowing the truth but also being led by your spirit and and Having hearts like having hearts like you

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Jesus and because ultimately it's not truth alone. It's The the real power is in is in love.

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So we need to speak the truth in love so that we know the truth we'd have hearts like yours

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Jesus and I pray also for a boldness and a conviction that the good news has to reach the loss.

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So And that we we stand on that that there's no other remedy that you have given There's no other name under heaven, which might be safe, but it's just you

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Jesus. So Yeah, got us got us throughout our lives and we thank you that we think you that you're you're good and you're sovereign and you are and That you're leading us that you you want to You you want to see us

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Accomplish your victories and you're in you're standing with us. So and yeah, thank you for your leading

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You just you do so much for us, even as we're trying to work for you You you do so much for us.