Matt Slick Live: February 7, 2025

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Hi everybody, welcome to the show. It's me, Matt Slick, your host of Matt Slick Live! Today's date is February 7th, 2025. Hope you're all having a good day. It's a nice Friday. And we've got nobody waiting right now.

Had some good conversations in the past few days, so maybe, just maybe, if you want to have a conversation, you can give me a call and we can talk. Be fun, be good. The number is 877 -207 -2276. And just give me a call.

We've got four open lines. Also, if you want to email me, that's easy to do as well. All you have to do there is just send your email to info at karm .org. Info at karm .org. And put the subject line, radio comments or radio question.

One of those will be fine, and then we can get to them. And in fact, I'm going to look at some of those right now. We've got some, and we have nobody waiting, and maybe I'll get to them right away. So I had an interesting conversation last night.

I'm going to go online again on Discord tonight. And I go in there and have these discussions on whatever. And I like to open up a room or go into a room that's already there. And people just have a habit of just saying, okay, Matt, just sit there and answer questions, and I do.

And last night, a guy came on, and he hates Reformed theology. He hates the idea of God's absolute sovereignty. And he asked a question. He said, did God choose Adam to sin? And what these guys do, they want to have a question that they can ask in such a way that they want to trap you.

If you answer either way, they want to trap you. You know, okay, I get it. That's what their position is, and that's what they want to do. And so I said, well, what do you mean by choosing? Are you saying choose as in causing, or are you choosing as in permitting?

And then this big conversation got on. And this guy would not give an inch for anything. He's one of the most difficult people I've had to work with. And, you know, people just hate the sovereignty of God.

But later on in the conversation, I said, well, look, is it the case that God works all things after the counsel of His will? And if I remember correctly, if I do, I hope I do, he said something to the effect of, no, what that means is that He gives us opportunity and conditions by which we can make these choices and things happen, something to this effect.

I remember he just twisted the word and wouldn't submit to what the Word of God actually says. Now, okay, having said all of that, so let me ask you a question. When you are reading through God's Word and you come across something that maybe perturbs you, you don't like, you don't agree to, so let me ask you, do you then reject what it says and just go on or dismiss what it says, or do you then just say, okay, this is what it says, so this is what I'm going to stick with?

Now, that's a question I'm just going to ask because a lot of times I've encountered people who they will submit the Word of God to their feelings and what they think something must be. They'll do that.

And I'm really stymied by that kind of a thing. It's really, to me, very interesting why anybody would do something like that because whenever I come across the Word and something occurs that I'm reading it that I don't understand, it doesn't agree with what I think it should say, my conclusion is, okay, I don't understand it and or my belief system is wrong.

That's me. That's how I go. And I look in it. I check things out to see if I can get it to make sense in a worldview. And if the worldview doesn't comply or doesn't support that theological aspect that the Scriptures are teaching, then I need to change my worldview.

Now, this brings me to another sub-point. So I was discussing something with one guy and I asked him, I said, look, I said, what's your worldview? He asked me a question and I said,.

What's your worldview?

And he didn't want to answer. He didn't want to say what his worldview was. Someone else had to come in and tell me he's Armenian. Okay, thanks. And the guy was so difficult in that he didn't want me to know what position he came from.

And I said, look, I'm just trying to know what your position is so that I can answer your questions better. That's all I'm trying to do. And then they fight. What I find interesting is that so many people just don't want to divulge anything.

When they have a view and you have a view that they don't like, man, they will turn against you. What does that remind you of? To me, it reminds me of the Democrats and the left. You know, we'll fight in the streets.

We'll fight, go out in the streets and fight. We're going to fight you because your position disagrees with ours.

And we're going to get you.

And that's what I see. And I don't see much grace from a lot of the people who hate the reformed doctrines of God's greatness. You know, the doctrines of his sovereignty, that he works all things out for the counsel of his will.

And then we have to work out what that means and how it means what it means. And a lot of people just don't want to do that. Anyway, this is just some of the issues that I've had to deal with recently online.

Now, one of the reasons I continue to do this and go into those rooms is because I believe that by going in there and, you know, just mixing it up with people, what they'll do is they will force me sometimes to articulate certain truths in a way that's different than what I'm accustomed to.

And so by doing that, I find that I learn a lot. I learn a lot about what I already know. And it helps. So I go in there to do that. And also I hear some positions I never heard before. And then that keeps me sharp, too, trying to research everything.

So I'm glad that even at my late age, I'm still able to do that.

I'm 68.

And I can't believe I'm that old. I'm two years from 70. Man, that is up there. And I'm still working 40, 50 hours a week.

And scrapping with the youngins.

And stuff like that intellectually. For me, it's a lot of interesting stuff. So, yeah, that's right, Humble Clay, in the chat room there on Rumble. Why would they be ashamed of their position? And they get very uppity.

It's really interesting, uppity, because I'm not going to tell you my position. Why not? Because you're here to answer questions.

I said to one guy, I said,.

Am I here only to answer questions? Or can I ask you a clarifying question about anything or what? And they just get so bent. Maybe because when I come into a room, they know some of their idols are going to get tipped over.

And they immediately wanted to attack the messenger. I think that's what it is.

And someone made a comment.

They said, Matt, when you come into a room,.

The flies follow. And I go, wait a minute. What are you saying? And so I was laughing. I said, I know what you mean.

And he says, it draws all kinds of people.

Because they don't like stuff.

And I go, so it's kind of funny. But at any rate, so there you go.

Hey, look, if you want, give me a call.

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That's right.

I'm going to just be you.

That's right.

See, we have a nice chat room in Rumble. And if you want to join us who are in there, you just go to Rumble .com. It's like YouTube.

It's Rumble.

Rumble .com and then forward slash Matt Slick Live, all one word. And you can get in there and you can see the people that are in there. We have 27 in there right now. It usually goes up to 50, 60 by the half hour.

And people come in. We just talk. We just chat during the break. We do that as well. In fact, I'm rambling here a little bit. But we have stuff on YouTube as well. And you can go to YouTube.

I don't know.

How do we find it on YouTube? It's the same.

There we go.

So I can see who's in there and I can put, like I just said, hi in the YouTube stuff. So we have a lot of different people for chatting, stuff like that. All right. Hey, I think what I'm going to do is get to an email.

Let's see if we can just get to one here. Let's see. My small group was discussing the word repentance or metanoia. Yep, that's a Greek word. The main question is, why have the majority of our English Bible translations of the Greek used such a poor word to translate metanoia?

Or is this translation okay? Now, okay, before I read any more, meta is change in Greek and naos is mind. Naos is mind. And so metanoia. Okay, metanoia. Metanoia is how it's contracted to be change of mind or attitude.

So metanoia means to look forward to a change of mind. See, it's what he says about our trust in Christ. Not this is about our trust in Christ. It could be about all kinds of things. You can turn from doing something dishonest and, you know, even unbelievers can repent of their bad doing.

It doesn't mean that you're trusting Christ. Repentance is similar to the incorrect Latin translation penance. I've never thought that. Anyway, a translation that was used to make people pay for their sins.

Repentance causes people to look back and feel sorry for their sins. This is the English dictionary meaning as opposed to the biblical meaning. Okay, why aren't English? So what I would say is go to the publishing houses and find the translators and see why.

See what they're saying. Why they translated it as repentance. So that's what I would do. I don't think that the information that the person's got is entirely accurate. So I am not sure.

Not sure.

Anyway, let's get to Jim from Virginia. Jim, welcome. You're on the air.

Hey, thank you. It's good to talk with you.

Sure. I think a lot of you.

But listen, I have a question on, you know, when the Bible says that when Adam and Eve sinned, that we sin with them. What was your thoughts on that? Does it mean that it's just because we were in their larynx, that he created all our souls at the same time?

What do you think?

So this is a doctrine called original sin. And so we had a break coming up. So I'm going to go slowly, you know, I'll explain what original sin is and what is going on. Because there's a doctrine here that's necessary to understand called federal headship.

So basically, Adam represented us. That's federal headship. And so when he fell in the garden, we fell in him. Some people don't like that. But Romans 5 .19 says, Through one man's disobedience, the many were made sinners.

The many here is a reference to the many in him. And so by his fall, we fell in him, and his sin is reckoned to our account. We fell in him, and we have a sinful nature and sinfulness attached to us.

I guess it relates to the point, like we said, that Christ was a lamb slain for us before the foundation of the world, because the Lord sees everything in terms of his past, everything in terms of his future.

Well, I'm not sure the last words, I understand you, but because they're not very clear to me.

He told me to distinguish between the point where we, because it says in there that we were in his loins also. If you look that up.

That we were. What? You're muffled to me.

In his loins.

That we were in his loins.

Loins, loins.

Loins, loins.

Loins, okay. Okay, yeah, that's mentioned, the loins in that sense are mentioned in Matthew 7, 7 -10. I mean, not Matthew, but Hebrews 7, 7 -10 about Levi being in the loins of his father Abraham. So that's a similar kind of thing.

That's really what's going on. We inherited the sinfulness of Adam. Now, some say his sin was actually imputed to us, and some say, no, we just inherited a sinful nature and are automatically defective from the very beginning.

And either one of those is valid. And when we get back from the break, I'll explain why. Hold on, we got a break. Hey folks, be right back after these messages. If you want to give me a call, the number is 877 -207 -2276.

Be right back.

Original Sin, Federal Headship, and Adam's Fall

It's Matt Slick Live! Taking your calls at 877 -207 -2276. Here's Matt Slick.

All right, and welcome back to the show. It's about 20 after the hour, and if you want to give me a call, the number is 877 -207 -2276. Jim, are you still there?

Yes, I'm still here.

All right.

So, I was going to say, I'm going to look at a verse, a very important verse, Romans 5 -19. And what it says is, For as through the one man's disobedience, that's Adam, the many were made sinners. And so this means that the many, those who Adam represented, were made sinners by what Adam did.

And so there's a clue to this in the second part of the verse. It says, Even so, through the obedience of the one, that's Jesus, the many will be made righteous. That's the many that Christ represented.

So it says, will be made righteous. And what we're talking about here is the sense of being made righteous in the eyes of God through the work of Christ, that we're justified by faith. And so that the righteousness of Christ is given to us, Philippians 3 -9.

So the same kind of thing, the corollary, is that Adam's sin is given to us. So that this is a difficult doctrine, and this is basically what we're talking about here, okay?

Well, I was thinking on the lines of that, by our DNA that, you know, we were damaged with the fall. Adam and Eve fell, so we all died. It says we all died spiritually when Adam and Eve died.

Yes. Spiritually. Yeah.

So I was thinking on the line that, because at the moment, when the sperm and egg meet, that spark of life, that's the soul, you know, when that other part is joined, and it's a human being. And I was thinking that maybe God created our souls, but that was just an out-of-the-box thinking.

But I want to say I'm very thankful for you and your stance. You know, when I talk with Democrats, you can't talk with them. The Bible says they come to us reasoned together. They holler and scream. My family members.

And I say, are you voting? I told them, the Bible tells you how to vote, and they don't care. I say, you vote for the things that belong. They don't care.

Yeah, if they're supposed to be Christians.

They are criminals, and they don't care about this country. They were trying to make us a one-world order, just destroying everything the country has.

Well, yeah, I've written a lot. I've written a lot on the Democratic Party and did research on them. And they're the party of slavery. They're the party of Jim Crow laws. They're the party of abortion, of pro-homosexuality.

They're the party of socialism. They were breaking the union way back then.

Yeah.

You know, they were breaking our nation at the beginning, and they're still the same.

And I think the Democratic Party itself is wicked.

It is wicked. When you can say killing a child and leaving it on the table, and abortion, and everything. Do you see everything that they establish? All these, everything. And I'm trying to tell people they're supposed to be Christians, and they're not listening.

It's just like Romans. I was preaching on Romans Sunday. It's that, you know, you have not changed. You conform to this world. You don't show any change. You don't show any spirit or anything when you are going along with the system.

That's exactly right. Yeah, I'm shocked that any true Christian could be a Democrat and know what the Democrat party is.

They could be ignorant.

Yes, yes. Well, I'm thankful for you being there, and I pretty much agree with you. I just, I'm not a post-Trump. I'm just thinking about that, brother.

It's all right.

I got out of the Air Force and came up here. I was in the Independent Baptist Church in Germany, and I came to pray for my own child, and I prayed for liberty, and did some church ministry and things.

But it's not a hill to die on. But I like listening to you, and it's more to the Lord opening you up, and you learn and grow.

God bless you so much.

God bless you.

Thank you. All right.

All right. That was a good call, and I liked it. He said he's not post-Trump like I am, and that's okay. It's all right.

All right.

Since he brought up this issue of the Democrats and things like that, I'm going to talk about it, because we've got nobody waiting right now. It's the Democratic history of it. They are the ones who supported slavery and the removal of Native American Indians from their land.

In 1854, after the Democrats enforced Kansas-Nebraska Act, which allowed the importing of slaves into those territories, the modern Republican Party was formed with the intention to prevent slavery and essentially curb the Democrats.

In the Civil War, the Democrats sided with the Confederates in order to retain their right to own slaves. After the slaves were freed, the Democrats blocked many bills aimed at giving the freed slaves more rights, including voting rights.

The Democrats passed the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882, which prevented Chinese immigrants from entering the United States. The Republican Party was birthed during the contentious American presidential election of 1864 in order to better resist the racist fanaticism of the slave-owning Democrats of the American South.

That's from subgorka .com, look at the documentation. And so here is a timeline, okay? And so some of it will be repeated, but here we go. In 1830, Democratic President Andrew Jackson creates the Indian Removal Act that forced indigenous people to leave their homeland.

It's called the Trail of Tears. In 1857, in a case of Scott v. Sanford, the court ruled that slaves aren't citizens. They are property. The seven justices voting in favor were Democrats. The two who dissented were Republicans.

In 1860, 11 slave states secede from the Union. Democrats start the Civil War. In 1863, Republican President Abraham Lincoln signs the Emancipation Proclamation into law. 1865, Republicans pass the 13th Amendment that permanently outlaws slavery.

1865, Confederate veterans founded the KKK. They founded the KKK to oppose the Republican Party's integration of blacks. Its first Grand Wizard was a Democrat named Nathan Bedford Forrest. In 1868, Republicans pass the 15th Amendment giving blacks the right to vote.

No Democrat supported it. In 1869, Reconstruction ended. Democrats reestablished white supremacy in the South with Jim Crow laws that legalized segregation. 1872, Republicans elected the first African-American senators and representatives.

That's in 1872. How about that? In 1880, excuse me, 1878, Republican Senator Aaron Sargent introduces the 19th Amendment to give women the right to vote. The Democrat-controlled Congress voted it out.

Oh, man. In 1939, Democrat and KKK cover girl Margaret Sanger created the Negro Project and planned parenthood to call the black population. 1964, the Republican Congress passes the 1964 Civil Rights Act as an extension of the Republican 1957 and 1960 Civil Rights Acts.

Democratic senators filibustered the bill for a record 75 days. That means they would get their talk and talk trying to get the bill to die. They didn't want it to go through. 1964, okay? So, as far as I'm concerned, the Democratic Party is similar to a terrorist organization inside of our country.

Similar. I'm not saying they are. Because they promote and have promoted evil things. And now they're promoting homosexuality, LGBTQ, transgenderism, woke ideology, abortion. If you're a real Christian, you can't be a Democrat.

You're not supposed to be. You can't support those kind of things. And if you don't like what I'm saying, then you need to repent of your sin. We'll be right back.

The History of the Democratic and Republican Parties

It's Matt Slick Live! Taking your calls at 877 -207 -2276. Here's Matt Slick.

All right, everyone. Welcome back to the show. If you'd like, give me a call. And the number is 877 -207 -2276. Let's get to Dave from Kansas City. Dave, welcome. You're on the air.

Hey, thanks, Matt, for taking my call. I think the problem is when we conflate the Republican Party of 1860 and the Republican Party of 1960, we've got a whole different problem. I grew up in Pennsylvania with the Scranton Republicans.

And I moved to Texas in the 70s with the John Connolly, Dick Armey, Bill Graham Democrats. And all of a sudden, the Southern Democrats became Republicans. And the Republican North became Democrats. So we've got to be careful on, you know, where this allegiance came.

And I think, you know, again, the Republican Party of 1860 and the Republican Party of 1950 were two different parties.

Yeah, they've changed. They've changed a lot. I'm not a Republican either. I don't think the Republican Party is much of anything.

Oh, I know, especially, I mean, with Trump putting Paula White as the spiritual advisor.

Yeah, that's a mistake. He's not a theologian. And which I had his ear, I'd say she's not qualified to be in that position. She's not a pastor. You need to find somebody better. And there are better people.

I know. I think the thing about Trump is that if you understand his first pastor that married his first wife and him were Dale Carnegie, he grew up under that positive thinking. If you name it, claim it type early thing.

And if you see how he operates, it's Kim Jong Il is my new best friend. We're going to. He always projects things onto things. So he has a lot of that in him. And I guess he would. He would. That would favor his name and claim it.

Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of that back there. All intertwined. Absolutely. There is. Yeah.

Some areas more than others. Yeah. But I just you know, again, I just I'm reading a reading a fantastic book now. It's taken me a long time to read, but it's called Rebel. Yeah. It's about the autobiography of Stonewall Jackson.

This man was a man of God. Yeah.

Yeah. I heard that. So was George Washington. They called George Washington the white ghost. Indians did because they would shoot arrows at him while he's on his knees in the forest praying and the arrows wouldn't hit him.

They called him the white ghost. Yeah. There's some interesting stuff in the early guys.

Yeah. But Stonewall Stonewall was, of course, his pastor was R .L. Dabney. I'm sorry. Darby. Darby. I get Darby and Darby. All right. Because we don't want to get Darby and Dabney refused. That would be a big mistake on my part.

All right. But yeah, I just want to say there's been, you know, again, when I grew up and when I moved to Texas, all these Texas Democrats became Republican. All the Northeastern Republicans became liberal.

And I saw that change. And so, you know, we want to be careful about when we talk about, you know, the Republican Democrat Party. But, you know, again, they're they're rhinos on both sides and no party is going to be our absolute savior for we know that.

But but we do know that Christ is all life for all all of life for all life.

So that's right. Appreciate that, brother. That's good.

Thank you. All right, man. God bless.

All right. All right. Now, let's get to Nate from California. Nate, welcome here on the air.

Hey, how are you, man? Remember when I was. I'm glad. Remember when we spoke yesterday about the lady who was dying?

Oh, yes. Yeah.

Well, I have to say that she died today in the morning at 6 a .m. Well, of course, I don't know. She's more friends with my mother than she is with me. But the thing is this, that from what I spoke to you, told you yesterday, I think that she was truly like out of it.

That she what?

And that she was like out out of it. You know, she was just like a statue of wax, you know, even though she was breathing and died this morning. But what she believed in and the Catholic church and all that's what practically everything the Catholics believe, it hurts.

I can't say where she will be. I can. I'm not God. But through being a Christian, Protestant Christian and not just a conservative and knowing theology and apologetics, I listen to you and stuff. I don't know.

I can't. It's hard for me to say where she will be. But from what I see, it's I can't. I don't know. It can't be heaven. It's like a Jehovah's Witness talking to me. But there was something that that I that I did like.

I saw her granddaughter. She's already like almost adult. She was carrying a Bible. And I asked her, may I see your Bible? And I saw it and it was a good Bible. One that I would read, one that you would read, you know.

And I go, I'm going to tell you something. This is a great Bible. It has 66 books. Please keep on reading it. Please keep on reading it. And I hope it truly touches you. And opens your eyes.

Yeah.

Well, that's all I wanted to say. Thank you for listening to me yesterday and today.

Sure.

I'm sorry that she passed away. And I do hope that by God's grace that.

Yes.

That she came to faith in the true gospel and not the Roman Catholic gospel. Because you just never know.

Well, you never know. But from what I saw yesterday, she was like truly out of it. Even though she was very paused and breathing. And she died today in the morning. Because all I did was I took my Bible.

I read a verse from the Bible. You know, when a person is in truly despair and pain. To pray to the Lord. You know, oil and stuff that we do. That we follow.

What you're doing is what you're supposed to do. That's good.

You know.

Yeah.

Well, thank you for listening to me and understanding me completely. You know that I'm epileptic and I have a PNF. Like in my heart and my throat.

Sounds terrible.

Okay. Well, may the Lord bless you. May you have a great weekend with everyone in your family.

Okay. You too, brother.

God bless.

And thank you for listening.

Alright. Okay.

God bless.

You too. God bless. Alright. Yeah.

Death, Catholicism, and the Hope of the True Gospel

Let's get to Mike from North Carolina. Alright, Mike. You're on the air.

Hi, Matt.

I wanted to ask you. That guy that was talking about the Democratic Party and the Republicans. Was he talking about what's called the big switch? Where Democrats, the old Democrats became Republicans.

And the Republicans became Democrats. Was that what he was talking about?

I think so.

Yeah. I haven't heard it called that.

Well, that's a myth. That is an absolute myth.

Oh, okay.

Because if you look at the Democrats, what we'll call the Dixiecrats. Like Abe Faubus. The guy that was the mentor to Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton. And Snathers. All those guys. Lester Maddox in Georgia.

I live in North Carolina and I taught history. All of those guys. Every one of them. Except for one. Died a Democrat. The only one that switched from Democrat to Republican. Was the old guy that died several years ago.

I can't remember his name. He was from South Carolina.

Okay.

But anyway. There's only one. The whole notion of the big switch is a big lie.

Okay.

It never happened.

Interesting.

And I also have a question.

We've got a break.

Hold on. We've got a break. Okay. You can either hold on or take off. But we've got a break.

So we've got to go. Okay.

Hold on, buddy. Hey, folks. Be right back after these messages. If you want to give me a call, the number is 877 -207 -2276.

We'll be right back.

The Myth of the Big Switch and the End Times Question

It's Matt Slick Live! Taking your calls at 877 -207 -2276. Here's Matt Slick.

All right, buddy. Welcome back to the show. Let's get back on with Mike from North Carolina. Welcome you back on.

Yeah, Matt.

Are you there? Yes. Okay.

Okay. You kind of faded out there for a second. And by the way, I'm like you. I'm an independent. I am not a Republican. But I just don't like it when people pass along mythology. Just one more thing about the Democrat-Republican thing.

The leader of the Senate in the Democratic Party through the early 2000s. I can't remember his name. He was the senator from West Virginia. He was a grand plegal in the Ku Klux Klan. He was interviewed in 2000.

It's still on the Internet. You can find it. And he used the N-word four times. It was an interview with 60 Minutes or one of those programs. He used the N-word four times during that interview. And if you look at Democratic cities, they are the worst run.

The education system is in shambles. And what was it that was against the law in the slave states? To teach the slaves. You do not want an educated population. Maxine Waters District. Maxine Waters District in Los Angeles.

Not a single student is proficient at grade level in the whole school system. Now, that's an eye-opener.

Yeah, I think she's wicked. I've seen her. I think she's wicked.

Oh, yeah, she's right out of hell.

But anyway, just to let people know, that whole thing is a total, total myth. But anyway, I have another question.

Sure.

It came up in a comment section. And someone had posted that we were now living in the end times. It was a political thing. But this Christian posted that we were living in the end times. You need to accept Christ, because the end is near.

He was actually saying that Christ was already on the earth. And I commented back to him, but I never heard from him again, telling him to please stop with that kind of stuff, because that's crazy talk.