Refuting Open Theism Heresy.

The Logic Problem in Open Theism

He says God cannot be outside of time. Okay. All right. So if I were discussing this online with him in front of the class I'd say what does it mean to be outside of time?

What does it mean?

Well, how's he gonna answer it? He doesn't know what it means to be outside of time. Then how are you saying God cannot be outside of time? Do you even know what the term means? You don't have any referent for it.

But yet you're gonna say there's a concept outside of time what you don't know what it is. And God can't be outside of time, which you don't know what it means. So, how would you know that he can or cannot do about something you cannot define and know what it is.

First mistake of logic. He cannot do it. His whole premises then falls apart from this right there if he says God is in time.

Well.

Then I'm gonna ask him is he a pantheist or panentheist and it's a trick kind of question because a pantheist says God in the universe or one of the same a Panentheist says God is in the universe. Well, if he's in the universe, is he then subject to the laws of physics.

Time, Eternity, and the A and B Theory of Time

And what time is another thing? I could do is ask him. Well, what is time and what theory of time do you hold to. A theory or B theory? Okay, it's everything always happening in sequence and none things aren't known.

Or Does everything happen all at once and God is simply knowing them. That we're experiencing them sequentially. A theory. B theory. He doesn't know probably. He doesn't even know even know what those things are.

And he doesn't know who's gonna get saved. Well, then how can you impute the sins of people to Christ? Because if the open theist is as that theological position is. Well first Peter 2 24 says he bore our sin in his body on the cross.

What sin did he bear for my sin born 2 ,000 years after Christ? What sin did he bear if he doesn't even know I'm gonna be born or know what sins I'm gonna commit. How could he cancel the certificate of debt to send that at the cross Colossians 2 14?

How does he do that? He doesn't know what sins you've committed. And if I have not committed a certain sin ABC. But I have committed a sin XYZ. Well, then which one of those need to be atoned for. Well, he won't know because God doesn't know what's gonna happen.

Open Theism and the Cross of Christ

He doesn't know what Jesus is gonna do. Because Jesus is human has free will. How's he gonna know? Is Jesus gonna go to the cross? You know what the God of open theism says a lot of times. You know what he says.

He says things like this. Whoops.

Oops, I.

Didn't know about that. Oh, I didn't that's a surprise. That's the God of open theism. How does such a God decree that eternity is going to happen in all things? How does he know that the crucifixion is going to happen?

Well, the open theist comes back and says things like well, he just pushes the generic Movements of big things to bring about what he wants. Oh, so now he knows how people gonna react in certain situations.

Anthropomorphism, Sovereignty, and the Humanist Philosophy Behind Open Theism

He's the omniscient. Does he know all things present and we get all these things. It's just so many so many things He doesn't know about in 1st. Samuel 1535. He denies open Anthropomorphism right away, but look I've taken to Genesis 3.

So I say does God know everything. Some open theists say he does everything knowable right now in the present good. All right. So did he know where Adam and Eve were in the garden? When they hid themselves, of course, he did.

Then why do you say where are you. Because he's speaking anthropomorphic Lee. That's how God works and for you to be so dismissive of anthropomorphism. There's nothing more than an exegetical and logical failure on your part.

Biblically speaking God is the sovereign king over all things. Humanist philosophy elevates man's freedom man's thinking man's Rationality. Open theism is the exaltation of man's free will. God cannot know the future because man must have free choices.

Therefore God can't ordain what man chooses because man has to be free. It's a humanist philosophy That's been woven into Christian theology and the combination is heresy.