Transgenders and Violence

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In other words, I was trying to get something up on the computer that wasn't coming up right away. It had nothing to do with the co-host who was backstage. He was just going, yeah, okay, what was the delay there, Andrew?

Drew, how are you, sir?

I'm doing well, I'm doing well, and I'm in a different part of my house this evening.

So we don't get to hear the kids, or more importantly, we don't get to see your wife's arm.

Right, yeah. She's not trying to sneak behind and try to reach and grab something. But she was here just a minute ago.

Are you going to tell her that we were actually live when she came on and said hello? You really should.

I should, yeah. That would be great, yeah. I should really do that.

She'll go watch the video and go, you lied to me, liar!

I wasn't going to lie, it was a joke.

Yeah.

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Well, let's start with something a little bit more somber instead of a joke. I got an email we want to read here from a regular viewer, many of you in the chat. And folks, if you're not watching live, you're missing out.

We have a lively chat. They like to not only discuss things that have nothing to do with what we're talking about that night. I think they try to just distract us, Drew. But one thing they do is our chat room is very good for praying for one another.

And Kathy Deming, one of the regulars, has sent me an email asking for prayer. She said, hi, Andrew, I was wondering if you can have prayer requests for me on the next show. I landed in the hospital January 30th, had emergency surgery on the 31st, and was unable to join the chat as I was very weak and tired.

I literally passed out. Came home February 8th. I am looking at eight weeks of recovery period. I tried to join the chat last week, but had a hard time. Appreciate your prayers and hope to get back to the chat soon.

Thank you, Kathy Deming. So if I'm just going to ask if all of you guys could lift her up in prayer when you're doing your prayer time. I've already prayed for her today as I just got that. So but if you guys could pray for her, that would be wonderful.

We would appreciate it. And Drew, I know we are both really not looking forward to this topic.

Yeah, it's not. It's not when you go, you know what? Let's get that one. And let's talk about that one tonight. Let that's going to be fun.

You know, we could we could.

Let's just distract ourselves. And D is saying, hey, Chris Honholds, I heard James White mentioned your response to he gets a Super Bowl ad. I'm not on X. Where can I read it? I think he wrote a blog article, but I'm sure I'm sure he'll post to where you can read it.

But but, yeah, it wasn't just James White who noticed it. Maybe, Chris, if you want to be so daring, you could you could let folks know who actually shared the article and blew up your phone.

Mm hmm.

And who is now following Mr. Honholds on X. And that's what it's called, by the way, Chris. It's called X.

Wait, who did this?

Mr. Honholds, Mr. Honholds, he has revealed the name. There it is. Yes.

Jenna Ellis not only retweeted it, but started following him and blew up his phone because she does when she. When she posts something, she gets a lot of notifications and people hate her.

Yeah.

So basically he he probably thought, oh, I'm going to have a nice quiet day. Go to work. No, my phone's blowing up with people telling me I'm a Pharisee. So we're going to be one of the few that won't deal with that.

He gets us Super Bowl ad because, well, folks, if you're watching or listening here, we're ahead of the curve. We dealt with that one like a year and a half ago.

Yeah, they said they did it last something similar last year or two years ago. So this is nothing new.

Yeah, we did it before they did their first Super Bowl ad. We we looked at their different videos and addressed the problems with them. So we warned you a long time ago. So those who are regular here, you weren't surprised.

All right.

So the topic tonight and folks, anyone can ask questions. I should mention that you could just go to Apologize Live dot com. That's the way to join. You just scroll down. That's you can watch the show there.

You can watch previous shows there. You can follow the podcast there. But you can also join the discussion there. You know, I don't think it's going to join, by the way.

Drew Chris Han holds.

Oh, well, he might he he would be more than happy to. But the couple of guys who made some really interesting comments about Calvinism and, you know, and and I said, well, why don't you come in and let's discuss it?

You hear those crickets?

Yeah.

Who was it that was talking about Calvinism?

Where was this on Facebook? We had and I actually grabbed a quote because it's going to go into my why Calvinism. Talk at the open air theology. This is what it said. This guy, Jeff, says, quote, Calvinism is not response.

Calvinists are not responsible for their own actions. God is. So is it no wonder that they reject that many reject the God of Calvinism? If God is responsible for what they do, then God is blamed for much of the evil that he does not do.

Unquote.

As he read about what Joseph said about basically that very thing, what you meant for evil, God meant for good. So there is an intention on the part of man that does things that are intended for evil.

But yet God in being sovereign does have a purpose. Right. So either evil happens and it has no purpose or there are things that God allows to take place and they serve a purpose.

That's a Calvinist view, by the way, that God allows.

Oh, yeah.

So we can also throw you can also tack on Providence in there, too, and how God works things out.

You know, we may have to do an in-depth show on the doctrine of Providence. I'm just looking up John Piper book that I was given on Providence.

I heard that was a very, very good book. I don't have it, but I've heard from a lot of people it is a very good book.

Yeah, it's not a thin book. It's about two inches, two and a half inches thick.

That is a serious situation to get into.

But I also have Charnock's Divine Providence, which would be a lot weightier to get through, but even though it's thinner. The thing is, how much of the doctrines we address here, whether we're discussing Calvinism or charismaticism with prophecy, it's really Providence that is misunderstood.

So much confusion there. So the topic we wanted to talk about tonight, in case folks did not hear, and we actually had an article that I sent Drew, I don't know how long ago. And I said I wanted to...

The plan was to do this a while ago, and then we kept putting other things in front of it.

Yeah. But after the shooting at Joelstein's church, or what did you call it? You didn't call it a church.

I called it the Joel Osteen Motivational Center.

Oh, I love it. You know, I wish you'd share what you really think about these things, because you keep holding back.

I do. You know, it's part of that having self-control. It's part of self-control and the spirit working and growing me that I just don't let loose.

And I wonder if tonight's show, we may trigger Mr. Honholz. I'm kind of expecting that we may see a Voice of Reason radio on tonight's episode. Oh, look at this. Chris Honholz said, Motivational Center sounds about right.

Oh, and we have someone saying, sup y 'all?

It's either Hax or it's Darren.

Yeah, because neither one of them want to bother doing... I mean, it's like, click a button. That's all that's involved. Go to pauljackslive .com. There's instructions to just click a button so that we can get your name.

And then we know who you are. Because we just keep confusing these Facebook users. The person says it's Hax, but do we know for sure until afterwards when we go on Facebook?

Video or it's not real.

Not anymore. Not anymore. I mean, now with the deep fakes. We are in for an election year of election years, because when you think about how much they hate Trump, they're willing to outright lie, say that he supports white supremacists because he says both sides have bad elements.

And they just skip where just before that he says he condemns white supremacy. I mean, if they're willing to completely flip what he says or make up what he says, say, oh, he's told people to drink bleach.

What do you think they're going to do with deep fakes? I mean, we're not going to be... The reality is with AI, you can't trust anything anymore.

Right. So how... Once this technology really gets perfected, the idea of how do you weigh in a court of law, how do you weigh evidences when someone says you did something? Because now they can mimic voices and you can have audio that sounds just like you, saying things you've never said.

They can do AI video and pictures. There's one guy who got, I think he got well known on TikTok or something like that. But he would have this AI overlay of Tom Cruise's face on his face, and it looked just like Tom Cruise.

And so it's like, now how do you trust anything like you said?

Yeah. I mean, after all, this was what Ben Shapiro might have said.

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I mean, that really could have been Ben Shapiro.

It could.

Or not.

Right. So the thing about this, right? When you have it slowed down, you can kind of hear the cuts, right? But Ben Shapiro speaks really fast. So all you got to do is speed that up and you can't tell the difference.

Yeah.

Actually, the reality is because the only clips I had of Ben Shapiro were chopped up. If I had a full dialogue, you wouldn't have heard it chopped up as much. In fact, I may have you saying some wonderful things about me by next week.

We'll see.

Then everyone would know it's a lie.

Yeah.

So there was an article in and I want to address the issue of what happened at Joel Steen's church as well. But there is an article that was in the Epoch Times. If you subscribe to that, you can go. Maybe it's there for free.

But the title of it is Growing Concerns Over Links Between Transgenderism and Violence. Subtitled, an increase in mass shootings by gender confused individuals is sparking worry over the vital cocktail of medical health issues and body altering chemicals.

And this is the thing. And I want to kind of want to go through this article because I do see a concerning thing. Look, we just had another shooting with the, who is it that won the Super Bowl? I don't even remember.

The Kansas City Chiefs.

The Kansas City Chiefs.

Okay.

Taylor Swift won the Super Bowl. Huh?

Taylor Swift won the Super Bowl.

Yeah.

At least I now know that she's a singer. So we do have this comment. Hi, this is Jody. Can you see my name? Yes, because it says Jody. But your account says you're just Facebook user. So I just go to ProjectsLive .com.

There's some instructions for Facebook. So here's what we end up seeing. This shooter in Kansas City. Notice we know nothing about the shooter. Okay. Two people. They have in custody. And we know nothing about them.

So what do you think I immediately think after what we've seen in recent days? I think that that person must be a leftist.

Right.

Why?

Because whenever they don't put out the information, it's usually someone that isn't going to carry the weight for the Marxists. I mean, their first thing every time is the gun, the gun, the gun, when a leftist uses a gun.

And if they think it's someone that's conservative, even if they're wrong, right, the first thing they did when there was the shooting in the gay bar, it was a Christian, evangelical Christian. Oh, sorry.

It was a Muslim.

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If you think about the shooting that took place in, I think it was Charlotte where the guy went into the church. Now he they were. Once everything took place, they were really quick to point out. He's got these type of flags in his his room.

He's got these types of posts. Right. They were really quick to give information as to who he was.

Until they get corrected. And that's I mean, we still don't know if you remember how the guy, a girl that thinks she's a guy that or thought she was a guy that went into the Christian school. They don't want to release that manifesto.

All the other manifestos, they're in a rush to do. And so what we end up seeing is they had, if you remember the shooter at the massage parlor. They were quick to say that he goes to church. They weren't so quick to say that he was a leftist.

Right.

Each one of these that they, they don't promote it as much. The shooting at Joel Steen's church. Drew, do you know what was written on his AR 15?

I do not.

It said free Palestine.

Well, there you go.

That sounds very conservative, right? Oh wait, no.

Yeah.

And, and guess what?

Yep.

That person who went into Joel Steen's church and shot people.

Yep.

That person was a transgender. Now here's, you don't have the most sickening thing is of that whole account. The guy who goes into a church thinking he's a girl and brought, I think it was a five-year-old child.

I think, I think it was their five-year-old child.

Yeah.

Brought their child with them.

And very tragic. The child got shot. And I think, I think the child's still in critical condition.

I have not heard the latest on the child. I am glad that there was not a lot of death and injury in that, but we don't hear the same rhetoric coming out from the media. When it's a transgender targeting Christians.

And just for the record, you don't see Christians playing the victim card, but if you were actually to look at the statistics throughout history and worldwide, Christians have always been the number one group.

I should say evangelical biblical Christians have been the number one targeted group for persecution everywhere throughout time.

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A gun doesn't do anything without a human doing something.

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We see this on the rise, but one thing we see consistently is that most often these are people who have been on mood altering drugs for a very long time and usually got off, took themselves off cold Turkey.

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Or another way to fit in is because I see, I see everything has to do with mental health. And so I have a mental health issue. Therefore I need medication. In order to be, to deal with my mental health issues, because I'm just like everybody else.

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So this brings up a good point. That Chris makes. Okay. So if you look at Scotland, I've listened to a lot of people who have been to Scotland, like Jeff Rose, who is a open air preacher. He did a lot of ministry, lived in Scotland for a little while.

He'll tell you that guns are illegal in Scotland, but people carry around swords and they carry around knives.

Why?

Because guns are illegal. And so they need something to protect themselves with, or to cause crime with.

Correct.

And so the article here is not saying that these chemicals that are being put into people's bodies to make them, their hormones change and things like that. It's not that, we have a direct cause, but as it says, the numbers are starting to show a pattern.

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Though that sounds light, the question is, how many of the people did we not know were transgender?

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They kind of bury that.

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They make it sound like it's happening all the time in every city, every day.

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There were 37. So if we count the number of ones that we know are by transgenders, that's 13%. That's double their population. By the way, the claim is, is that they're 6 of the population. If that's true, then they do twice as much of the mass shootings for their population.

I don't know the, it would be an interesting thing to get all of the, these mass shootings and the date, the individuals and start to put some, some looking together of who is doing the mass shootings.

It may find some interesting things. This article is saying that the trend is going up in the number of transgenders. And remember, this is not, this is 2023. So this doesn't count the most recent one,.