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Everybody from the 313, get your woke hands up and follow me, uh, uh, now he stands tough, and notice that this man did not have his hands up, uh. People have been calling Ruslan the evangelical Eminem.
You know, he's a B-Rabbit. B-Rabbit, this is the turtle race. Oh man, let's jump into this today. The reason I'm talking about B-Rabbit is because if you remember in that movie, well not only is Ruslan a white rapper, I'm a dope rapper, um, he also tries to flip the script here.
And that's where that flip the script, that was a big line in Eminem. What's his name? Future tells him to flip the script. You know, cause B-Rabbit be choking all the time, you know, you know how it goes.
Anyway, happy Memorial Day, I'm having a great time, I'm in a great mood, and it's a little bit cold today, you know, I think it's cold pretty much everywhere in the country right now. Which is a little bit weird.
Um, but I got a Bud Light, and I'm ready to just enjoy life, so let's just do this because this is where Ruslan tries to flip the script. If you remember where we left off, he was trying to make it seem like the only reason this conversation was happening was because Ruslan was humble enough to go stoop down to Marcus's level, cause Marcus and us, all the non-woke people, we're just big jerks, and like, you know, we started all the aggressive rhetoric and stuff like that, he's trying to change reality.
This is a wizard spell. Because what a wizard does, is a wizard doesn't really do anything, like he doesn't have any real power, but what he does do is he distracts you and tries to get you, he basically gaslights you.
He tries to change the reality of the situation just through a bunch of smoke and mirrors and flash, like the Wizard of Oz. Um, but let's just listen to Ruslan, cause I found this wizard spell particularly hilarious, this is where he tries to flip the script, y 'all.
Be rabbit, uh, this is the turtle race.
Relations that are friendly, and like we disagree, and um, you know.
But do you know the path to have those conversations though, right? They have to be charitable, there has to be rapport. Were we not charitable? We were charitable in this conversation, right? But I had to first say, hey bro, I'm not a Marxist, nor do I like the conclusions of CRT that says all white people are evil, nor do I, you know what I mean, like, I had to first, like, show my cards instead of saying, hey, you're a brother in Christ, we may disagree on sociology or critical race theory or whatever, but let's be charitable and have these conversations.
I'm going to believe the best about you, you're going to believe the best about me, right? So this is the scam, right?
This is a total scam. So there's a, well, there's a couple scams in here. So the first one is he changes reality, right? Because what he makes it seem like is that all these woke church advocates were just minding their own business and just, just loving on people, you know, and, and, and, and leaning in and all that kind of stuff and not really doing anything wrong.
They were just as pure as the driven snow. And then out of nowhere, we were just like, you're a racist, you're a, you're a Marxist, you're a cultural Marxist, you're a social justice warrior. That's actually not what happened.
Like, that's a, that's a fantasy, right? That's a fabrication. What actually happened was you guys started calling every white person and their mother racist, right? I'm scared to worship with white people.
That was Jamar Tisby's famous article. I'm scared to worship with white people. I just don't feel safe. He's like, he's like Lysol in, uh, in that one, uh, Dave Chappelle schedule. I don't feel safe with you, man.
I don't feel safe with you. Like, like, like obviously that was insane. So we just kept, we kept getting called racist. We kept getting called white supremacists. We kept getting called all these pejoratives and you guys know this is how it went down.
Right? And so then we were like, Hey, you know, like I'm not a racist. Like, I don't, I'm not so sure about this white supremacy stuff and this whiteness stuff. Like, can you, can we talk about this? And we talk and we are, I'm sorry.
Then we asked for conversations. Let's talk it out. Let's hash it out. And what we got in return was you were racist, man. I'm not going to talk to a racist. I'm not going to waste my time. In fact, Jamar Tisby wrote articles about how you shouldn't waste your time trying to talk to non-woke people and stuff like that.
And so that's how it went down. We got, we got called racist and bigots and barely even Christian. A lot of us were, uh, Eric Mason, uh, strongly implied that we were formal heretics. Like he was going to remember the council of Philadelphia that he wanted to set up.
He was going to set this council up where all of us non-woke people were going to be race or a heretics. Like, that's how this started. And then we were like, Hey, let's talk about it. And you're like, nah, nah, you're a racist.
I don't talk to racists. And then that's when we started getting more aggressive. That's the real story. But what Ruslan here is presenting is that, that, that, uh, we were just innocent. You guys just started calling us Marxists out of nowhere.
So, so that's the first scam, right? That's the first scam. The second scam is, and there's probably more than just two scams here, but the second scam is he's like, you gotta get over yourself. Like, like sometimes people call me names, right?
Like racist, for example. And I don't mind putting my cards on the table. Hey, I'm not a racist. There it is. Let's talk about it. I'm not a racist. And Ruslan's making it seem like that's some big burden where it's like, Hey, you're a Marxist.
And excuse me. And then it's like a big burden to be like, Hey, I'm not a Marxist. Like that's not, that's no big deal. That's totally fine. Put your cards on the table. You're not a Marxist. Let's talk about it.
Right? Like that, like that's, that's, he tries to make it seem like that's such a big deal. It's not a big deal. Like, like enough patting yourself on the back for being so humble. It's not nothing humble about defending yourself.
I mean, sometimes you just got to defend yourself. I mean, just stop making it seem like you're like in the, on the moral high ground here. You're simply not. By the way, my book, you know, I, I, I, I, I looked and I just double checked cause I was, you know, I wrote my book, but you know, I wrote it a while ago and I've read it a couple of times and I thought like there's, I thought there was a very good chance that I didn't even mention the word Marxist or socialist even once.
And that was by design. And I, I, I look back and I did actually quote someone that used the word Marxist and also the word socialist. I used a couple of times, twice in the entire book. And that's by design because I understand that people like Ruslan, they don't consider themselves Marxist or socialist.
And to be honest, I don't even care. I know that they are socialists. I get that. But I don't care what you call yourself. I don't care what you call it. What I just care about is that it's not biblical.
And so my book focuses on the fact that it's not biblical and it brings Bible verses to bear upon their errant teachings. So whether they call it Marxist or cultural Marxist or socialist, whatever they call it, I don't actually care what they call it because that's not the interesting part to me.
The interesting part to me is how it contradicts the Bible. And so this book that I, that I wrote, Social Justice Pharisees, Wilk Church Tactics and How to Engage Them, it'll be very helpful to use, especially on weasels like Ruslan who don't use those words, socialist, Marxist, stuff like that, but they do have those tendencies.
I think that's a very important thing that you should be ready to address because they're rarely going to own what they actually are or even the tendencies that they have. So anyway, if you want to purchase one of those books, AD at adrobles .com or on eBay.
Again, so when you see a Dr. Eric Mason on my channel, I've been to his X 29 church plant in Philly, seeing the ministry they do on the front lines, seeing him teach the gospel, nailing it on the essentials.
And I consistently see him dismissed. Rejected guys that agree with him theologically, guys that are covenantal theology, Calvinist, but I think this is the this is a.
B rabbit way of saying he's got a track record of ministry. How often have we heard that? Right. How could you, how could you come against him in this article? He's got a track record of gospel, faithful ministry.
And it's like, but, but, but like, that's, that's also a scam. It's like, sure. You can be right on a lot of things and really, really wrong and divisive on just a handful of things. And we should still be correcting you on those handful of things.
In fact, the Bible says that we ought to, if we're going to love our neighbor as ourself, the Bible says, earnestly contend with your neighbor. You should, you should, you should not just let your neighbor stay in his sin and his teaching and stuff like that.
Like just because you have a track record of ministry doesn't mean that everything you teach is correct. And so we owe it to you unless we hate you to tell you where you're incorrect. And so, yes, you're going to be rejected, Eric Mason, for teaching errant theology when it comes to race and justice.
I mean, why wouldn't you be? If I was teaching errantly on race and justice, I should be rejected for that teaching. Right? Like, why wouldn't that teaching be rejected? And so, uh, it's so weird when people use this argument, it's like, okay, track record of ministry, fine.
Let me just assume that everything you're saying is true. What does that got to do with the fact that I'm coming against his errant teaching on reparations and Angloids and all this other stuff? Like that's, doesn't make it okay.
Right? Like what's the deal with this argument? It is such a sophomoric, another way of saying childish argument.
I think too. And, and I, I think there is sort of, uh, one, I know that personal invites have been sent to Dr. Mason and he's rejected him for private conversations, all expense paid, all these sorts of things.
So, so I don't exactly entirely agree that you got to be charitable. I think, I think that you have to be charitable, but you don't have to be stupid and naive.
Like being charitable with Eric Mason is understanding that he's a racist. He's preached racism from the pulpit. And like, like that's, that's charitable. You know what I mean? And, and the charitable thing is I'm assuming he fights it on the inside, but he does a terrible job.
And in fact, he disqualifies himself when he preaches racism from the pulpit. Um, that's charitable. The uncharitable would be, oh, he's just a complete heretic and he knows exactly what he's doing and he does it anyway, and he doesn't even try to fight it.
Um, very few people say that. Now I happen to think that Eric Mason's not a believer. Um, but, um, but the thing is like that, that doesn't, being charitable doesn't mean that you believe non-truths about the other person.
Yes, you should believe the best about another person, but that doesn't mean you believe lies about them. And to say that Eric Mason's not a racist would be a lie about Eric Mason. Chair being charitable does not, uh, uh, contradict that.
Part of, part of me, like I know if somebody slandered me, like if somebody is talking, you know, whatever, lying about me, whatever looks right now, I want to just like, let's have the conversation. Let's fight it out.
I'm a grown man. He is a, we can have that. We can have those car. If I'm wrong, you know, like, like I said, like, like I, I, you said on.
Face, my face hair looks so red right now.
Believe that you were CRT or social justice or whatever. Um, and I was like, well, let's just come on the show, man. Let's have the conversation.
Like that's playing the man. And I think a lot of these guys, but you understand that I'm in a completely different season of life with way less responsibility than a Dr. Eric Mason.
Well, you can't, you can't take me. You can't take me being well, I would say, I would say Eric Mason isn't going to come on my show. That's fine. But, but what I'm saying is like body and Eric Mason would be, that'd be such a great pay-per-view.
There's a lot of people behind the scenes trying to make that happen. I really hope it does, man.
I've been rebuked a couple of times. And I think, I think there might be some truth to this behind the scenes. Cause I said, uh, in the last episode or maybe two episodes ago, I don't care if this conversation happens or not.
In fact, I would never have a conversation with these woke church advocates. That's what I said. And, um, I'm squishy on that. I'll be honest. I'm squishy on that. If, uh, if Washington post or a pagan outlet came and wanted to get my thoughts on the woke church stuff, I, you know, I did an interview once with a lady from Washington post and she did an op-ed and mentioned me and Walter Strickland and stuff.
Um, but if that, if that happened again, I would definitely turn them down. I tell them to go pound sand. I'm not interested in trying to help the pagan sell any more newspapers on this controversy. So, uh, that I am, I am inflexible on, but if a professed Christian wanted to have a conversation, I said that I wouldn't talk to Ruslan.
I don't know if that's true. I think maybe I would. I think maybe I would. I, you know, I, I, I'm willing, I got rebuked on that a few times. Like I should be willing to talk to him if that were the case.
Not that he's ever asked. And I don't, I don't think he would ever talk to me. I don't think, I don't think Ruslan's trying to take that one on the chin, if you know what I mean, because he knows how terrible that conversation would go, but, um, but if he did, I probably would talk to him and definitely privately, if he wanted her to do something public and make a spectacle out of it, I'm open to that as well.
Um, because you know, that's, that's true. I should, if I'm going to love my neighbor, if I'm going to love my brother, someone who's a professed Christian, I ought to be able to contend with him, that's, that's a biblical concept for those of you who have rebuked me behind the scenes on that position that I took, you were right.
I was wrong. I would, I would talk to him. That doesn't mean I would talk to him without, uh, anything, uh, uh, any input from my side, like I'm not going to go on their terms and have a conversation.
Uh, I'm going to be, it's going to be on my terms. You know what I mean? Because in this woke church fight, um, strategically, we've got all the power here. We've got all the momentum. This is the reality.
Like the woke church is backed into a corner and I'm not going to take it. I'm not going to give up that advantage. There's just no question about it. So I would go on Ruslan's show, but it would be a dual show.
It would be something that I would be able to have the masters of as well and do with it what I please as well. Um, I remember when I talked to KB and, uh, and Amin, they made me agree that I would never use a clip from the video of the conversation, like out, out of context, like I'd only be able to post the whole thing.
I agreed to it at the time, but like, I wouldn't agree to that again. I'm going to, I'm going to use the clips to, to, to, for my purposes. Is there's no question about it. Uh, I don't know why that I've never, I've never forced anyone to agree to that.
Like, I just don't understand. Like, anyway. Um, but yeah, I, you know, for those of you who have rebuked me on that, I would have a conversation with these guys. Uh, and that would be, that would be amazing.
Uh, because there's a lot of people trying to get, you know, big universities.
Eric Mason and Vody Bokum are not even in the same weight class. You know what I mean? They're not in the same category when it comes to quality of theologian. Vody Bokum is just light years ahead of Eric Mason when it comes to this.
It would be an effective conversation though, in the sense that sometimes the bully needs to be hit in the mouth to be exposed that they actually aren't all that, like I've told this story before. My brother, he used to sit at the nerd table at lunch and there were these bullies that used to throw French fries at them and they used to put ketchup on them and throw the French fries.
And one day my brother just had enough. He stood up and he screamed. Every one of the lunchroom was looking at him. He was like, that's enough. If you do it one more time, like you're, you know, you're going to feel the wrath, like something like that.
And they never did it again. Not only did they never do it again to him and his buddies, they never did it again, period, because they were exposed. He called them out and they shrunk back. He said, let's go.
We'll fight right now. They didn't say another word. They cowered in fear because they were just, they were sissies, but they had taken the stance of a bully. There was nothing back there. They had no backbone.
They were all hat and no cattle. And that's how Eric Mason is. He talks a big game and he, he, he screams and yells like a lunatic when he's preaching to a friendly audience. But when it comes to Votie Bockham, Votie wouldn't have to do all that much to completely destroy him, his arguments anyway, and he doesn't want to be exposed like that.
So, so in the sense, like it, it wouldn't be that interesting in the sense is it wouldn't be like a good fight, but sometimes you need that bully to get hit in the mouth, you know, metaphorically speaking.
So everybody knows that he ain't got nothing.
I mean, like, I know nobody just had open heart surgery, so I don't know how long it would be. Yeah. We're spending and I'm, but, but, but I would hope that, you know, upon full recovery, that, that I think, I think it would just be like, let's just hash it out, man.
Like, let's just come together. Let's just hash it out. Like, let's, you know, let's just, let's fight. Like we're men, men fight. Like, it's okay.
We can, we can chop it up at the end of the day. Hey, nobody wants a piece of King Ginger. I mean, look at that face. He will, he, this is, this is the kind of guy that back in the old days, you know, listen, I'm not, I'm not racist or nothing, but back in the old days in Scotland or Ireland, wherever he's from, these are those guys that used to paint war paint on themselves.
And they just, they, they get you, man. They went medieval on you. That's the kind of guy King Ginger is, you know?
And I agree with you. I'm saying that that should start from some degree of, Hey, I don't think you want to destroy America. You don't think I want to destroy America. I don't think you have ill intent.
I don't have ill intent. We can disagree on some of these things. You asked me about Andrew Yang and I was like, yeah, I don't think that was a great idea in hindsight. Like I'm willing to change my mind on stuff.
You're presenting this, uh, uh, post-millennial, uh, almost like a, like a, this Christian utopia idea, which I'm like, dude, that's freaking sounds rad, I'm, I'm not opposed to that. I don't know.
Like, this is another scam. Like, um, there's nothing in the rule books of having an argument or having a debate that requires me to accept you and your positions before we start. Like, that's what he's trying to do.
Do you remember James White when he, he wanted to debate Matthew Vines, but Matthew Vine said, unless you agree that, that we're brothers in Christ and gay Christianity is legitimate, then I won't debate you.
It's like, no, I'm not going to give up the debate in order to debate you. So like, there's nothing in the etiquette that makes me makes forces me to agree that Eric Mason is not a bad actor before I debate him.
Right. I think Eric Mason's a bad actor. You know what I mean? Ruslan's a different story. I don't think he's a bad actor. I think he's supremely confused. Right. And I think he's a little weaselly, um, because he's got a tribe and he's going to defend that tribe to the death and he's been mistaught all along the way.
And, uh, and all that kind of thing. I, that's what I think Ruslan is. He's a bit of a tragic figure in my opinion. Um, so, but I, I, I reserved the right to make those judgments. Of course I do. Of course, Jamar Tisby's a bad actor.
I debate Jamar Tisby, but I'm not going to agree that he's a believer. If I don't believe he's a believer, like what, what, what is this thing where we have to like lay down our weapons before we fight King Ginger's over here?
He's like, nah, we're going to, I don't, I don't know. I don't know what your ethnicity is, King Ginger, but you know, you're, you're Ginger, so maybe you're a Scottish mate, you know, like, like we, we want to go to war, right?
We got our weapons, we got our, our war paint on and we're going to, we're not going to lay our weapons down before the fight. That doesn't make any sense.
Oh, I'm sure someone could poke holes in all of that, but that sounds cool. But I think it starts with saying, Hey, let's have conversation. Let's be charitable. Let's let's, let's be private. Let's be willing to listen.
Be quick, quick to listen. Um, slow to speak. And I don't, I'm just saying, I don't see a lot of that happening to, to, to my friends.
Ruslan, then you're just not looking that that's the truth. You know, this is in all seriousness. I like to have a good time. I like to joke. If you haven't seen that Ruslan, then you're just not looking because, you know, people like me spent a year more, even to this day, asking for these conversations privately, you know, do it, let's talk about it.
Let's hash it out. Let's do this. Let's do that. And it was just either crickets or no, I don't talk to racists. You're a bigot. You're a white supremacist and all that kind of thing. And so Ruslan with all due respect, this is a wizard spell.
We all know how reality really was. We all know how it actually happened. No amount of wizardry. I don't care how good your lighting is or how, how, how rad your, your camera work is. It's not going to change what actually happened.
So if you're not seeing what you just described, you simply aren't looking.
I thought of my friends who've been consistent in all these.
My, my thought, I'm saying, yeah, my thought is this, if, if someone like Vati or whatever, believes Mason or, uh, uh, you know, whether it's Mason or Bradley or whatever, if he believes that they're Marxist and he needs to warn people that they're Marxist, he should absolutely call them out for doing that.
However, I think that playing the man would say, Hey, I'm not this. Let's have that conversation. I'll explain why. And we'll have that meeting, whether in private or in person or public, it doesn't matter.
Do you think they're Marxist? Do you think I'm a Marxist? I think you have Marxist tendencies. Yeah, for sure. I think I, I, I think the third option, that video right there is a clear example of pure Marxism.
You want government, you want, you want government.
So Ruslan, Ruslan is, is very happy because he thinks he has him in the trap and he kind of does, because this, this is a trap guys. Like this is why my book doesn't even mention Marxism except for one time.
And I'm quoting somebody else, uh, in that. In fact, I think I'm quoting Tim Keller when I mentioned Marxism, um, because it's a trap, right? Because Ruslan can play the definition game is, is socialism, which is like, you know, public schools, public healthcare, public, you know, safety nets, welfare, all that is socialism, Marxism.
Well, there's a lot of overlap, but it's not technically Marxism. Marxism has some extra stuff. Uh, the differences are very small in my opinion, but, uh, it's just, there's just too squishy and it's easy to debate it.
And you can, you can always go, you know, back, fall back on the definitions and prove the other person wrong. Don't fall into this trap. To me, it doesn't really even matter if it's Marxism or not. It's just, is it biblical?
That's what I focus on. That's what I try to do my content on. In fact, my content very rarely uses the word Marx, Marxism in general, um, and all that. But this is a trap, but it's funny because Ruslan, I think traps himself in a little bit.
Let's just keep watching. It's schools, man. That's Marxism. Government schools, it's things where it's like every square is a rectangle, but not every rectangle is square. It's the same thing with this.
It's like every Marxist is socialist, but not every socialist is a Marxist.
Take that to the bank. Remember that is 100%. Yeah.
Yeah. I know you think that I look at everything is a conspiracy theory,.
But it's really not a conspiracy theory. Let's just say it's true. So everything, any involvement of government is Marxism to you.
No, any, any involvement of government that is not terrorizing those who do evil, I would say is Marxism.
Okay. Do you think that's how Marx would, would describe Marxism?
Okay. So, so this is where, this is where, this is where Ruslan springs the trap. And I think Marcus is kind of laughing here because he kind of sees this because is this what Marx would describe Marxism as no, that's not what Marx would describe Marxism as that's true.
And so that's why I don't even worry about this stuff. I don't even get involved in this kind of conversation typically, unless it's a friend, you know, like I don't care if it's Marxism or not. Your ideas are unbiblical.
They're evil. They're not godly. They're not just, they're not good. You don't have, you have no moral high ground when you promote them. You are actually promoting sin when you promote them. Let's just leave it at that.
Whether you're a Marxist, whether it's Karl Marx's definition, whether it's another definition, I don't care. So this is where Ruslan sprung the trap. That's not Marxism because Marx wouldn't have said that, but then Marx, then Ruslan, because he's a little overzealous and he's, he's, he's just too excited that he sprung the trap.
Then he actually traps himself. Watch.
Where you can't, you can't change the definition of Marxism and say any involvement of government that's not terrorizing evil is Marxism. Maybe it would be more clear. That's just a hogwash, man.
But okay. Social. So socialism is Marxism. Okay. So, so Mark or Marcus corrects himself. He says, I should be more clear. It's socialism. And that's definitely true. All those things that he mentioned, public schools, public healthcare, welfare, all that's all socialism.
There's just no, there's no question about that. There's no debating it. That's socialism. All those are socialist policies. Right. And so we can understand that an economy can be a mixed economy where it can be partly socialist, partly not.
Uh, but they're all socialist ideas. So Marcus corrected himself good on him. And this is where Ruslan gets a little overzealous, right? Here we go. This is going to be funny.
I think so. Yeah, for sure. A hundred percent. Okay. Is that where Marxism is to Marxist? What? Is that what Marxism is to Marxist? Like actual trained Marxists, like actual the black lives matter, disrupt the nuclear family.
Well, they do want socialism for sure. They, I would say they probably won't communism.
They want communism and Marxism. That is not what.
So here's where he messed up. Be rabbit dumb, messed up because they want communism and Marxism. That's true. But they also definitely want socialism because every Marxist is a socialist. So every socialist policy, the Marxists want that as well.
And so he messed up. He went too far. Uh, yes, it's true that you can't define Marxism. However you want, uh, and get away with it. Marcus was bad on that. He corrected himself, but then Ruslan fell into his own trap because the black lives matter.
People are definitely socialists and they want all the socialist policies. Now they want extra stuff too. And that makes it extra bad. But even if they didn't want that extra stuff, every Christian auto opposed them.
Even if they didn't want that stuff, every Christian auto opposed their socialism because socialism is antichrist. Socialism is demonic. Socialism is from the synagogue of Satan. That's what they teach it in the synagogue of Satan.
So that's the reality. It doesn't Marxism is worse in my opinion, but they're both bad.
I nor Eric Mason, no show. Baraka nor lacraze is propagating.
And at least you're propagating all that socialist stuff.
You are, you're all doing it. And even you Ruslan, but they're, they're endorsing the people that want to do it.
I'm not, I'm endorsing major Williams. Okay. I'm not endorsing you. I said, I said, I don't know who was the Marxist thing and I told him and I, and I made a video saying he shouldn't have, right. If you listen to the majority of what I'm preaching on my channel, what my actual solutions is, Hey, build useful skills, make yourself useful, build.
Useful skills, lead your family, pick a healthy, are you saying that socialists don't want people to build useful skills? Ruslan, would you say a socialist would define himself as, as not making themselves useful, Ruslan?
Like, would you think socialists would define socialism that we see to complain this stupid definition game, right? It's a stupid game. Anyone can play it. That, but that's the point. Like, it's like every socialist, you know, talks a big game about cap, about, about making a business and doing this stuff and all.
And, but, okay. So you have some capitalist tendencies, Ruslan, but you have a lot of socialist tendencies too. Do I care if you have enough to call you a pure socialist? No, I don't care. I just care that you no longer believe any socialism because it's all bad.
It's all evil. You don't care. You can't, you're not graded on a scale here.
Spouse get out of debt, build a business.
Would you say Ruslan that, that, that all socialists would define themselves as not finding a good spouse.
You see, it's, it's a stupid game. Look, man, what I'm talking about, I think government schools are Marxist. So anyone that supports it, that's, that's, well, then you, you've changed the definition of Marxism.
All right. We're going to pause there. I think my kids need me and we'll come back to this and hopefully finish it next time. I have a great Memorial day weekend. I hope you found this video helpful. God bless.