A Few Comments in Response to the GOCC and GMA, Plus Psalm 2

Greetings, welcome to The Dividing Line on a Thursday, Thursday, yes.

My promise is we will be done in an hour. Not two hours and 22 minutes or however long it was, but just one hour on the program today.

Start off with a couple video clips. No, I have not even had the desire, to be honest with you, to even start looking at the vast majority of the stuff that's been posted on YouTube.

I commented on Facebook that not even Google itself can withstand the onslaught of videos being posted by each of the

Hebrew Israelite groups in regards to yours truly, and they continue doing so.

But there does seem to be one commonality for many of these, and that is,

I don't know how he's been doing it, but Rich has been actively suppressing the truth on this program.

And I don't know how he does it because I move around so much, but evidently he's using video editing software to remove the horns and pitchfork that is obviously a part of my everyday appearance.

And I think that's a pretty good job, because I can even go like this and you can't see my hands hitting the horns or anything.

It's just... Yeah, but I haven't perfected the beam in and beam out effect. That would be cool. No, wait a minute. Don't ruin it.

We're going to get to that. I'll show it a little bit later. It is pretty cool that we are going to show you a new effect that Rich does want to work on because it would be cool to start the program this way.

Maybe the folks at GMS can tell us how they did this. I'd have to get my hands on some Star Trek sound effects too.

Well, we'd probably get sued for copyright infringement on that. But anyway, some of this, look, some of you have already said there's no reason to be dealing with this stuff because so much of this stuff is just so silly it's beneath comment.

I hear you. Let me point something out. We already know of a number of people who have left the

Hebrew -Israelite movements simply because someone finally, and look, you saw when vocab was on and the guest, he said,

I'm no expert in these things and there have been people that have been working this area for a long, long time.

It's just that we have a bigger platform and my only hope is that since we've taken the opportunity to look at some of these things, that's going to help get their information out there.

But there have been people faithfully laboring, seeking to do the right thing for a long, long time.

God bless them. And I just hope that the fact that we've taken an interest is encouraging to them and useful to them and things like that.

But the reality is that there are people who are trapped in these systems and it's real easy to look at some of the stuff

I'm going to show you today and go, oh, you've got to be kidding me. Why waste your time?

Well, it's not a waste of time because we already know of people who finally hearing the message of the gospel, hearing someone who stands up and says, no, that's wrong.

Here's why it's wrong. They've been freed from these groups and they're not the big names.

A lot of them are women, but aren't they worth the time?

Sometimes, I'll be honest, I get a little concerned with some of my

Reformed brethren because unless it's intellectually stimulating on a certain level, then, you know, why bother?

And it's sort of the attitude that, you know, how many times in talking to Mormons have we had to go back over James chapter 2?

And about the 4000th time, you get a little tired of it, but you've got to realize the whole reason you learned that stuff about James chapter 2 in the first place might be for this very encounter, and it's that thing called patience and stuff like that.

And I'm not the most patient man, so I get it. I understand. And it's frustrating to me to hear the stuff that's being said.

Do I like having horns painted on my head? No. But it's, I also recognize it's not because these men have any knowledge of who

I am or what my life is or anything else, they just, it's, we've challenged their presuppositions in a way they've never been challenged before.

So this is the only, since they don't have the truth, the only reaction you can have is to attack the messenger and try to protect your people from the influence of these folks.

But what's interesting, I'll show this to you in a second, but what's interesting is so often, unwittingly, they're getting our message out to an audience that we'd never be able to reach.

Even they're taking stuff from our programs and presenting it to their people.

It's not that their people are watching us, they're just, they're getting the gospel to their own people, and I don't think they realize they're doing it.

Well, we'll look at that one in a moment. This first one, I'm just going to play a little brief clip. I started listening to this on the drive back from Colorado, and I was listening to it,

I couldn't see it. So once I brought the video up, once I, you know, because it's not good to watch videos while driving.

That's just, no, that's, unless you're in the back seat, but I was alone in the car, so that wouldn't work either.

I was sort of interested in seeing what was going on when

I first started listening to this. Just to sort of, I don't know, it gives sort of an insight into, you know, what the people are doing and what it looks like and things like that.

So I want to play a little section of this. This is GOCC responding to my pseudo -scholarship, and it was,

I predicted that this was going to happen. I'm not sure if it did on the program, but in my mind,

I said, okay, if I've brought up in the debate, we brought up the issue of the

Lord's Day, remember? And, of course, I challenged Elder DeCaul to provide some meaningful argumentation of the connection.

You know, you keep saying that because the Babylonians did this, then there must be this necessary connection, and that's where Sunday worship came from.

And so I'm providing a meaningful explanation as to how

Sunday worship arose in the Christian church. You have the resurrection, the first day of the week.

You have this strange phrase, kuriake hemera. You have in the book of Revelation, it is

Revelation, gentlemen. It's not Revelations. It's one revelation. All through this, it's

Revelations 110. It's like, stop, listen to me. Anyway, and I knew because I had done a

Google search, what's out there? Well, I knew that there are a lot of Seventh -day

Adventist articles because they're, you know, they're into the

Seventh -day Sabbath. I knew that there were a number of articles where they take issue with the understanding of kuriake hemera in Ignatius to the

Magnesians as having anything to do with the Lord's Day. And it seems pretty clear in light of the use of the term

Sabbath and stuff in the context. But I knew they were out there and I said, you know,

I have a feeling if any response is given, it's not going to be that they're reading

Balcombe's material that I was referring to in from Sabbath, the Lord's Day or anything like that that has to do with the historical stuff.

And, you know, doing serious scholarship where you don't have an agenda that you're trying to fill out, but it's like, well, if you take this and you take this and you take this, the best evidence both in the

New Testament and the historical material is to see it this way. That's not what they're doing. That's not what most

Muslim apologists are doing either with the same type of material. So, I knew it was out there and I just predicted, well, that's what happens here.

What you've got here, it's very, very plain to me. I have taught seminary for many years and when you have to grade papers, you sort of start recognizing internet scholarship and the sources of things and it's just painfully obvious that these were not issues that these folks had ever faced before and what they're trying to do in a way too rushed and hurried way and for way too small an audience, in other words, the already convinced trying to keep them convinced, rather than pursuing truth, rather than being willing to be corrected, what you're doing is trying to come up with a

Band -Aid to stop the bleeding and that's what you've got here. But, I just want you to see and listen to just the beginning of this.

I'm going to go through to a certain point and then sort of just make one comment and then we'll look at the second video and then

I've got some other stuff to look at. But here is, this is from the, now the two videos there are from two different groups.

The first one here is from what has been described to me as the calmest of the groups and the second one from one of the least calmest of the groups, the

GMS groups, the Great Millstone group, but here's G .O

.C .C. El -Ghubar is going to present the lesson called

Defeating the Harlot, the Roman Catholic Church and her

Children. So praise the Most High for that. So without further ado,

El -Ghubar. Okay now, I guess it's going to be hard for me to just play the whole thing. Defeating, so the video is titled, responding to James White's pseudo -scholarship, but what's his presentation?

Defeating the Roman Catholic Harlot and her Children. I guess we're the children even though, again, the idea is make everything black and white and I guess that's a bad term to use in this context, but make everything

Rome versus everybody else. Now in the process, you give

Rome far more credit than she is due by a long, long shot.

I don't know if this young gentleman or El -Ghubar or any of these folks,

I don't know if they'll take the time to listen to any of this, but gentlemen, evidently you do not want to have any credibility with anyone outside of your group.

I guess it flows to the mindset that, well, they're all a bunch of Edomites and we don't care what they think anyway, so okay, all right, but it is just absurd beyond comment to ignore the reality of the fact that I have stood firmly, conscientiously, confessionally against the

Roman Catholic system for decades, up until just recently, the group that I debated more often than any other was the

Roman Catholic Church. It was not until, I think, two years ago that I finally did one more debate with Islam than I had done with Roman Catholicism.

That's not so much a diminishment of interest in Roman Catholicism as it is it's really hard to find

Roman Catholics to debate anymore. We try, but it's tough to do, at least

Roman Catholics that are representative of Roman Catholicism and, of course, these days with Pope Francis, the ecumenical movement, a whole other issue.

Anyway, any person who wants to be taken seriously as a person of truth, who's speaking truthfully to issues, has to recognize

I've written three different books specifically on the subject of Roman Catholicism, two others that are directly relevant to that,

Scripture Alone and The God Who Justifies, Fatal Flaw, Ancestor's Catholic Claims, and the

Roman Catholic Controversy. Oh, four! Mary, Another Redeemer, sorry about that. It's not, well,

I guess it's not in print, but it's available electronically. What? Oh! I don't even need to say it.

Yes, and available on Kindle now. All of those available on Kindle at Amazon, at the

Amazon bookstore. And Justification by Faith is, too. The little one? Yes. Oh, okay. All right. How about that?

So, just for years, and in fact, the Roman Catholics themselves, many of them would identify me as just a rabid anti -Catholic, and so for you to come along and identify me with Rome just means that you're not really dealing with the world as it exists.

You're dealing with a fantasy world. So, is your apologetics, you're going to talk about what apologetics is and what apologia is here in a moment from Peter's writings, not really exegeting the text, but most people never do.

And you're going to say you're going to be the real apologia church by giving an answer.

Well, that term assumes the reasonableness, the consistency, the truthfulness of the answer.

You're not doing that. You've got to recognize Rome is not the only thing out there, and Rome is a lot different today than Rome was only 100 years ago.

If you can't see that, if you can't recognize that, if you can't interact with that truthfully, who are you trying to convince?

Who are you trying to convince? There's no power in falsehood. There's no power in this kind of, you know, well, as long as I get everybody excited about it and yell loud enough, that's going to make it true.

No, no, it doesn't. It doesn't. So I just wonder, you know, why you do the things that you do.

All right, sit down, let's go to business. You can't be running around attacking my elder, and you think

I want to shut down. Dim those lights. This is

Jane White, a walking sleeping giant. I did. That's interesting.

I just sort of thought that, I'm not sure when this was recorded. This was, this would be after the second debate, but, you know, it,

I've seen a number of videos where they're, I am now becoming a prophetic fulfillment.

They're looking, they're looking for prophecies of yours truly in, in the scriptures.

And that this is a, this is the great attack of the enemy against the elect of God and all the rest is this stuff.

And it's like, look, guys, Elder Rakah, rather condescendingly said things to vocab

Malone in a interview that were just simply ridiculously wrong. And in our conversation, we demonstrated that in the debate, we once again demonstrated that on a fundamental level of Bible, history, factuality, your system is not capable of really defending itself very well.

And if you, if you want to try to find biblical prophecy for that, you know, I can't stop you.

But that doesn't mean that the Bible is overly concerned about a small group in the 21st century that has come up with indefensible teachings and that that somehow was prophesied in scripture.

It's, it's not. I didn't, I didn't awake anything. I just simply shone a little light on some, some darkness and the response has been pretty amazing.

All right, so what we're going to do, we're going to break down and we're going to be in the spirit and we're going to continue the work that the bishops of Asia Minor was holding on like great men, like Ignatius, Polycarp and Polycretes.

These men were the last pioneers before they got killed, holding on to the traditions of the apostles.

Con? Now, you know, forgive me, but I just, you know,

I, you know, maybe, maybe vocab can, can help me with this, but were y 'all really sitting around translating

Ignatius before a few weeks ago? You know,

I, I, because, because if, if you were, then there's, there's a bunch of stuff there that, that y 'all don't believe or hadn't really dealt with.

The primary reason I brought up Ignatius was his testimony to the deity of Christ. That's what I wanted to debate in regards to Ignatius.

You all were the ones that said that the deity of Christ was invented at the Council of Nicaea. You do realize

Ignatius is 200 years before that, more than 200 years before that. And yet if you've, if, if he's one of these great leaders, there isn't any question that Ignatius believed in the full deity of Jesus Christ.

So I find this introduction strange. Okay. So we're going to let, you know, let the light come up in a few minutes and we're going to bring some light to this disinformation that the harlot, the whore, the

Roman Catholic church, okay, is distributing.

Okay. So we're going to just kind of set the stage and kind of go back in regards of everything that has been happening in these last days.

And we're going to see what, what, what these Gentiles are doing and what they're realizing is that we are waking up.

So now what's happening is they're saying, they're sending people that view others as insignificant at one point and realize that not only are we gaining members, but they're losing members.

Okay. Okay. So now they, they, they, you know, they, they bring it out all the, you know, the experts and the

PSDs and the masters and all of that. But guess what? The Mosiah is taking the foolish to compound the wise.

Okay. Okay. All right. In these last days, those are the children of Israel and the

Gentiles, which are called by the Mosiah's names, they are awakened to from their sleep must be ready for the war of disinformation being trans transmitted, trans transmitted, excuse me, by the harlot, the

Roman Catholic church. Huh? Okay. Now you may hear a lot of these guys call,

I'm an apology radio or apologist Christian. Okay. This is where they'll get this scripture from.

Okay. Now let me just stop for a moment. I'm not accustomed to the cultural stuff.

You know, readers and the come on and I, that puts me off.

Okay. But we got to realize that's where these folks coming from. Got to try to get over it.

Try to ignore it as much as possible. If it puts you off, fine, whatever. But once again, do you notice what's on the screen?

It's it's strong stuff again. And it, this is the highest level of scholarship, if you're going to call it that, that they have.

And I just don't get the feeling that these gentlemen recognize, for example, he's going to tell us what

Apologia means. But that this is somewhat the danger.

I've lamented many times in this program, remember I've, I've told you, I know of one seminary that has dropped its

Greek requirement for the MDiv to the point where you can take a 13 day

Jan term class and fulfill your Greek requirement. Now you cannot learn a foreign language.

You cannot become capable of working with a foreign language in 13 days.

Not possible. That is a Greek tools class. And Greek tools are wonderful, if you know

Greek. My concern is that many people confuse

Greek tools with actually dealing with the language. For example, here in first period 315, yeah, the, what's called the lexical form.

But the problem is that that's, that's not what is actually in first period 315.

Pros apologion is an inflected form. Now would they know why it's inflected?

Would they be able to research serious, meaningful lexical sources?

Can they read the language well enough to recognize the background of first period 315 and the citation from Isaiah and what's going on before that?

And what does it mean to sanctify in your hearts, kourion deitan kristan?

That's why I have started to speak a lot on first period 315 in basically admitting that for many years as an apologist,

I focused upon what Peter wasn't focusing upon. And that there is an attitude in the mind that one must have to be able to fulfill the command of this text.

And it is an attitude that I don't believe Hebrew Israelite theology allows it to fulfill. What y 'all are missing is that this text identifies the

Messiah as Yahweh. Not Ahiah as you want to play with Hebrew words, but as Yahweh.

Because that term kourion is the Greek Septuagint's, transliteration isn't perfectly accurate, but it's the

Greek Septuagint's rendering of the divine name. I first spoke on this at the

Wretched Conference in Ohio, and I think, wow

I've forgotten what year it was. I was about to say 2008, but that's too far back. A while back.

And I've spoken on this a number of times, I think I've gone through it on the dividing line in the past. But if you will follow the citations that Peter uses, and follow the context from Isaiah 7 all the way through Isaiah 11, then you'll see what the background is here.

And what Peter's actually saying is to treat the Christ as Yahweh.

To sanctify, consider as holy in your hearts the Messiah as Yahweh.

That then becomes the ordering epistemological principle that then allows the believer to honor

God and honor what He's done in the incarnation, and hence to be ready to give an answer.

But that's only a commandment for the person who at first is doing what so much of the

Hebrew -Israelite movement denies, and that requires a belief in the full deity of Christ.

And the only way to believe in the full deity of Christ is to believe in the doctrine of the Trinity, which you identify as Romish, as we will see here in a moment.

All these things, see up on the screen there,

Shema Yisrael Yahweh Eloheinu Yahweh Echad. Anyway, this is the problem in Strong's Exhaustive Concordance scholarship.

It misses some of the important elements of things. Here we go. Read that real quick,

Malachi. Maccabee, Tlalcum. 1 Peter 3, 15. It's a lot, brother.

But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts. Come on. And be ready always to give an answer.

Come on. To every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is within you with meekness and fear.

Okay, so the word here, answer means, in the Greek, means to answer, to plead your cause, to defend your argument, to bring an argument for what you believe in.

So that's where the word apologia comes from. Okay, so we're going to bring... Okay, I was just informed by one of our guests from last week on Twitter that it says, in case you're wondering why he keeps saying con, that's how they pronounce the

Hebrew term for yes. So that's where that's coming from. It sounded to me like, come on, because I've heard that one too.

But now we know better. Okay, so you notice lexicons, strongs, so on and so forth.

This is... Okay, I get it. That's fine. Be nice to go a little bit beyond that.

We're going to be the true apologia Christians. Huh? Okay. All right, so let's read that real quick,

Brother Maccabees. Many modern day Christians today use sources like Ignatius of Antioch combined with Revelations 110, the

Lord's Day, as evidence for the Sunday worship argument, because they know they can't find anywhere in the

Bible Christ commanded to be worshipped on Sunday. But let's take a more in -depth look into Ignatius of Antioch's writings in Revelations 110 to see if this supports

Sunday worship. Okay. And who was Antioch? Antioch, he basically, he was the bishop of Antioch.

I mean, who was Ignatius? Excuse me. He was the bishop of Antioch, the place in which the

Christian was called first Christian, the apostle was first called Christian. Okay, so he's an important guy.

And he lived very early on. Okay, 35 to 108 A .D. So this guy was a prominent character or leader in the

Christian community, especially in early Christianity. So his writing is extremely important because this is one of the outside sources out of the

Scriptures that we could find how Christians conducted themselves. Okay, and he was an apostolic father, a student of John the

Apostle, the same guy who made the comment, the Lord's Day. So you would think that his writing would be important because to figure out this particular phrase.

He was killed on the road to Rome. He was fed by lions or fed into wild beasts.

He got eaten alive. So all, he was considered a martyr. So this man, unto the death, he defended the truth.

Okay. Now let's see who. Now, let me go back here a moment.

You'll notice, source, Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

So look, okay, but if you guys have been reading all this stuff all this time, don't you think you might have come across little better sources than Wikipedia?

I just don't get the feeling that Elder Gabbar here had really known much about Ignatius before last month, before June of 2016.

And that's going to come out here in a moment because, you know, I didn't bring him back in here. I don't think I, well, wait a minute.

Yeah, okay. All right. All right. At least I got one of them here. Oops. I took the

Lightfoot edition back into my office. But remember when

I introduced Ignatius? And, you know, we discussed

Ignatius even more in depth on the Skype program from Colorado. I mentioned that there are a number of printed editions, versions, translations of the

Apostolic Fathers. And I read from my green hardback, which

I don't have in here, by J .B. Lightfoot, the great Anglican scholar. I have the five -volume

Apostolic Fathers set from Lightfoot. He did a lot of work on it. But I mentioned that there were others.

For example, more up -to -date, well, up -to -date, modern in the sense, the

Apostolic Fathers Greek text and English translations edited and revised by Michael W. Holmes. And so you have this,

Ph .D., Princeton Theological Seminary. And you can, you know, I think this is what

I read the Didache from, if I recall correctly. But, you know, here is the section, the

Letter to the Magnesians. And you've got the Greek text on one page and the

English on the other with some textual footnotes and a few things like that.

So it's available in other forms. But listen to the argument that's made here.

I'm not going to go much farther with this because as soon as I hit this, I was just like, there are other things to listen to.

And we moved on from there. But listen to the argument. So this man, unto the death, he defended the truth.

Okay. Now, let's see who translated our works.

Okay. His name was J. His name was Joseph B. Lightpool. Okay. So real quick, read that on top.

Who translated the letters of Ignatius of Antioch, in particular, the letters of Ignatius to the

Magnesians with a controversial quote is found. Okay. So this guy, clue number one,

Trinity College. Okay. So that's a Roman Catholic college. So that's a problem.

Number one. Now some of you are going, well, why is that so problematic?

Well, if you know anything about Cambridge and Oxford, you know that, well, if you know anything about J .B.

Lightfoot, you know that he was an

Anglican. He was Bishop of Durham, which is what

N .T. Wright has been as well. Trinity College was formed by Henry VIII.

Now, if you know a little bit about your history, you know that Henry VIII broke with Buddhism, Hinduism, Mormonism.

Oh, that's really. Oh, it was Rome. That's right.

Henry VIII broke with Rome. And when he was basically as king taking over most of the

Roman church properties in his realm, he was convinced by one of his many wives not to simply close down this school but to combine a bunch of schools together.

And that was the origin of Trinity College at Cambridge.

A well -known Protestant, not Roman Catholic. Now, is it because of the way he's dressed?

Is it because of the word Trinity? I don't know. But to just simply go, well, the first problem, clearly we can't trust this translation because Trinity College, that's

Roman, is just. How do you respond to this kind of stuff?

It's literally on the level of space aliens. You know, the Enterprise came back and changed all the records using, you know, it's a slingshot effect.

And, you know, if you just hit the warp reverse right at the right time as you're going around the sun, you get to go back and beam people out of, you know, airplanes.

How do you respond to stuff like this? There's just, there's no substance to it. It's just,

I'm going to make stuff up and throw it out there and I'm just going to say it confidently and expect you to believe it.

It's difficult to respond to that kind of stuff in any type of intellectual way because there's no intellectual content to it.

It just does not show a serious concern about truth. And to criticize

J .B. Lightfoot's rendering on the basis of the fact that he went to Trinity College and that's a

Romanist institution when it was formed by Henry VIII who rebelled against Rome, not only makes the

Roman Catholics chuckle, but it should make everybody chuckle. It's just not worthy of anyone.

It's not worthy of a mature thinking human adult. But it is part of cultic thinking.

And that's exactly what you have here. It really, really is. All right. Take that down a second.

Now that was the GOCC. The stuff coming out from the other groups, the

Sakari and GMS, you can't even play all of it without getting your video marked explicit.

For a couple of minutes, for example, in this video, this next video, there's a F -bomb on the screen.

You know, as confused and shallow as GOCC's argumentation is, at least they don't do that.

I mean, when you've got to give somebody a golf clap for just not swearing at you, it gives you an idea, again, of what we're dealing with here.

But this one caught my attention. Like I said, the vast majority of them, I'm sure

I could find interesting tidbits if I were to spend, I don't know how long it would take me right now.

I don't know how long it would take me to even watch what's currently up there that has appeared.

I mean, some of these things are hours long. This one was nice and short. But what caught my attention was two things.

One, right at the beginning, somewhat edited, but not edited for content, not edited to really take anything meaningful out.

They present a bunch of material directly from the debate.

And this is going to be watched by people who would not have watched the entire debate or would never come onto our channel.

In other words, it's sort of like when Muslim by Choice reposts entire portions of the dividing line.

We don't mind because he's getting it out to an audience that we'd never get to. So it's sort of like, okay.

Especially since what Muslim by Choice does is normally just play eight minutes of me and then have a minute and a half of scrolling text that's way too fast to read the end of the text anyways.

And most people aren't going to take the time to stop and read the rest of the text. So it's just sort of like free advertising.

All right. Go for it. Anyway, so I'm glad that they're putting this stuff out there, and I'm glad that the people are getting to see it and getting to hear it and stuff like that, despite what comes afterwards.

So I'm going to start. They took a major section of my presentation of the gospel, and they're getting it out there.

But then once they're done with that, watch what happens.

And if, by the way, I'm going to try to watch the timer. They do use the word that white people can't say, but black people say to each other all the time.

Okay. If I miss it or something, please forgive me. I'll try to make sure to stop before then and skip over it and all the rest of that stuff.

But here is a GMS video. It's called

Response, G -O -C -C, Alpha and Omega Ministry, Dabat.

D -A -B -A -T -E. Dabati. Here we go.

The Bible as a whole, not just taking portions of it, but the Bible as a whole, is the revelation that the triune

God is glorifying himself and the salvation of a particular people. And those people are derived from every tribe, tongue, people, and nation.

It is the negation of the work of Jesus Christ. It is the negation of the New Testament to ever say to anyone that those people are determined on the basis of skin color, genetics, or anything else of Jews and Gentiles.

Of Jews and Gentiles. All praises, honor, and glory goes to Yahawa, Ba HaShem, Yahawa Sha.

And that's who the world ignorantly calls God and Jesus. Secondly, I want to give double honors to the apostles and even the elders of Great Millstone.

And a sincere salute. So you're telling me you can't do that. I mean, you've got all that cool stuff out there.

That's after effects stuff. This is live show. Well, I think,

I bet you there's some gadget out there somewhere that would, because I, other than the pitchfork thing,

I think beaming into the picture would be sort of cool. Well, beaming in is pretty wild. I can't duplicate that, but we could buy you a pitchfork.

And some horns. We haven't gotten the horns yet. They come a few minutes in. Give away the ending.

Do you sort of like how your microphone is just sort of stuck there because they can't really get rid of that real well.

And the background is, the background could really use some work.

That's straight out of 1998, man. I think our website looked like that once.

It did. Sometime back when it was Texas327 .net

or something. You're waiting for the little lights to start flashing on and off. Yeah, the

HTML flicker. Yeah, that'd be pretty cool. Anyway, and 2

Corinthians 2 .11 there, it's, you know, we are not ignorant of Satan's devices, is what that's all about.

And then the music. The music, really, I'm sorry, wasn't, nah, nah, that didn't happen.

To all you Achium laboring around the country and also the globe.

Because the great Israelite awakening around the globe, okay, is scaring these devils.

Scaring the pants off these devils, man. And you can't run and hide, you so -called white man.

Now, no, no, it's at 4, at 345, I think.

I think I can dump out, don't worry. So -called white man? Okay, I got some sun in Colorado, okay.

I learned, for example, if you put SPF 50 sunscreen on your arm and then put one of those sunshade sleeves over it.

The sunshade sleeve will absorb all the sunscreen.

Because when you take it off, I got fried. Okay, so I've got a little melanin going on in my arms, you know, but not my head.

I didn't, I used plenty of sunscreen. So -called white man? I don't know.

Have you watched Braveheart? Have you seen my ancestors? They are very white. Very, very, so -called white man.

You got to chuckle at some of this stuff. Going into slavery, you're going into hardcore bondage.

No matter how many books you try to cover up. No matter how many pictures you try to cover up.

No matter how many books you hide behind in pictures. So, did you hear that? You're going into hardcore slavery.

These guys rejoice in this idea that when the black Jesus comes back, their foot's going to be on our neck and we're going to be in slavery.

And, of course, none of these people have ever been in slavery. So, they're just wanting to be slave masters themselves.

It's like, have you thought through what that really means about your heart and things like that?

I mean, really? Have you thought about it? Doesn't seem so. When he's talking about all these books he's trying to hide and pictures and stuff, they're talking about the one woodcut of King James.

It's all the conspiracy stuff. We've changed all of history and hidden the real facts and stuff like that.

Writings and scrolls. No matter what you do, slavery is coming.

Slavery is coming for you, Esau. And you heathen nations that put the children of Israel in slavery and was responsible for it.

And mainly you so -called Jews. You fake Jews. This is 2

Corinthians 2 and 11. Satan should get an advantage of us, for we are not ignorant of his devices.

And that's what we're looking at here. You know, in kindergarten it was really rough because you'll notice my horns aren't the same color.

And so I got a lot of bullying in kindergarten because of my different colored horns.

Because all the other little kids had the same color horns. We're looking at one of Satan's devices.

Talking about the Bible and how many different translations there are. Trying to throw off the prophecies.

We know that's what this devil is trying to do. He can't stop it. You can't stop it,

Esau. This awakening, this truth, this exposure of you devils. Of course you're going to have to.

Okay, okay, whew, I just caught it. All right, hold on a second. Okay, I think we're safe now.

That this so -called theologian had all his answers, all his information on his books.

Where was he then when we was all up in those churches, man? That's what caught my attention. That's what caught my attention, right there.

You say, you actually listened that far. Yeah, yeah, I did. That's what caught my attention.

You got all these books. You get all these answers. Where were you when we were up in all these churches?

Now I'm not, I'm taking that, you know, I'm not taking that in the sense of him saying, well, we were, when we were going into your churches, because they'll go into churches and disrupt services and stuff like the

GMS people will, and all that kind of stuff. That's not how I'm understanding it. I interpreted that as before we heard the truth and became

Hebrew Israelites, how come you weren't telling the things you're telling now them?

And I'm like, I don't know who this is. He never shows his face.

But in all probability, my son is older than him. So one of the complaints that some people have, and I take it as a compliment, is

I'm talking about the same things now that I was talking about 25, 30 years ago. This ministry has been around over 30 years.

And so coming up, I think, you know, 33. And so I have been talking about these things.

Many others have been talking about this. This information was available. But what struck me was there is in a sense, and I'm going to get in trouble for this.

Here we go. In many churches of whatever ethnic mix, there is an anti -intellectualism, an anti -church history -ism.

There is an anti -theology -ism. There is an anti -Bible translation,

Bible transmission -ism. And it's seen in the fact that it's almost never addressed, almost never talked about.

But it's especially true in black churches. It's just a reality.

The idea of sound doctrine, church history, there are so few where there is an emphasis.

There are, they're out there, thanks be for them. But they will be the first ones to tell you that they are in the minority and it's a constant battle for them to try to communicate to their people the necessity of knowing these things and getting over all the social, cultural stuff and focusing upon the truth.

And cults, it's been said, I don't know who came up with this first. I certainly didn't come up with it.

But it's a true statement. Cults are the unpaid debts of the church. When the church will not be balanced, when the church will not do what is necessary to disciple and ground and grow the saints, the cults become the unpaid debt of the church.

And when I heard this man saying these things, you know, where were you? Well, I've been around, but I'm nobody.

There were lots of people. I haven't said anything that is outrageously unusual or anything like that.

I've just simply been responding to some pretty amazingly facile, shallow arguments that really can't stand up to examination.

And there are lots of people who could have given you those answers. You're saying, where were they?

Well, they were there. Did you go looking for them?

Would you have even accepted those answers from someone that looks, not like that since I don't have horns, but looks like me?

But there was an implicit statement in those words that really caught my attention.

And it's not fair to make the accusation it was made, but at the same time, the cults are the unpaid debt of the church.

And if we will not do what's necessary to explain to our people, this is why we're talking about this subject.

This is why we need to talk about that. This is why you need to be grounded in this area. Well, you're helping to make those folks cult fodder.

And once they're there, they may be very, very, very difficult to reach. So yeah, that's quite the interesting picture.

But like I said, I couldn't even play this whole thing for you because it's just inappropriate.

It really is. So there you go. There's a couple of those. Real quickly, as we only have a few minutes left on the program, just a quick shift.

I haven't seen it posted yet. I'll try to post it somewhere. But last evening at PRBC, I have the next couple of weeks preaching.

And I'm going to be going through the blessings and cursings section in Deuteronomy 27 and 28.

And I don't have time to develop it right now. I will at some point spend enough time on the program that we can at least link folks to it, because I think it's very important, especially dealing with Deuteronomy 28 -68 and the central place that that has in Hebrew -Israelite interpretation.

But last evening, on Wednesday evening, this is the week, if you're watching this at a later point, this is the week of the

Democratic National Convention. I don't even know what to say concerning the fact that a national, one of the two political parties in our nation, what

I have seen this week, what I have heard this week, I really do believe that the appropriate name for this party is the

Socialist Party. It is so very plain and so very clear that socialism is obviously a matter of tremendous ignorance amongst the young people in our nation.

They don't realize the dangers of socialism and the destructive nature of socialism, especially to personal liberties and freedoms.

The rise of totalitarianism, the speed with which it's happening is shocking.

I was thinking about that, and last evening,

I'm not going to go through the whole thing, I don't have time to, but I do want to look and see if we've already posted.

If not, I can get it posted. Some comments that I made from Psalm 2, the second

Psalm, I can't think of another text that is more explicit in revealing

God's attitude toward rulers, kings, and judges who purposefully stand against His lordship in the world than the second

Psalm. That's why it's preached on so often by certain groups that emphasize these things, but it's right there in Scripture.

And it's a rich, rich text that I think is very often...

I think it has been overlooked in American Christianity primarily because we have experienced a period of relative peace and acceptance, a blessed period.

Now that period has ended. Maybe we'll hear it a little bit more clearly and a little bit more forcefully.

But what is said there about the kings and the rulers wanting to tear off the fetters and the cords of the rulership of God and then the judges of the earth, they are warned, kiss the sun, lest His wrath come upon you.

I would highly recommend to you, especially given what day it is of the year and this evening, if your heart is troubled within you about what you see going on around you, spend some time in the second psalm.

The first one is a good one to read as an introduction, but take some time to meditate.

That's a good word. It's a biblical word. Not just read through, but to ponder, to consider, to, in fact, shut off that stupid television and the screens and everything else.

Maybe even read it in a book and just consider what the second psalm is actually saying.

And you might actually get to bed this evening with a heart filled with peace rather than one filled with care and concern and worry.

You might sleep better. I need to do that. I need to do that myself.

No two ways about it. So just some brief thoughts. I will try, I will look right now, see if last evening's devotional has been posted.

If it is, I'll link to it as I write up the blog article for the program today.

I gave some more thoughts, actually read through the second psalm last evening at PRBC. So just a recommendation to you.

I told you we'd be done in one hour, and we are done in one hour.

Thank you for listening to the program today. Lord willing, we'll see you next week here on The Dividing Line.