F4F | Dawn Cheré Wilkerson Teaches Gnostic Self Discovery

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Welcome to another installment of Fighting for the Faith. My name is Chris Rosebro. I am your servant in Jesus Christ.

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This is the channel that compares what people are saying in the name of God to the Word of God. Now, if you've ever been told that, oh, your true self is your soul, and that your soul is eternal, and that your body will somehow disappear, and your soul will continue on for eternity, yeah, go ahead and hit the subscribe button down below.

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Don't forget to like the video and to ring the bell. You've been taught something that's called

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Gnosticism. Yeah, we'll talk about that on this installment. We're heading down to Voo's Church as we listen to Pastrix.

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Yeah, by the way, God's Word forbids this. Pastrix, Don Cherie Wilkerson of Voo's Church, talking about the seven rules for self -discovery.

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And this is just a train wreck from the word go, and she's gonna be talking about Gnosticism.

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She's going to just twist up God's Word into a pretzel. It's just gonna be awful.

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So grab some popcorn and let's get to it. Here is Don Cherie Wilkerson and the seven rules for self -discovery.

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We'll learn a little Gnosticism along the way, apparently. Here we go. Tonight we're kicking off a brand new collection.

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I am so excited about this collection. Seven rules for... Yeah, a new collection. They're no longer called sermon series anymore.

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Yeah, the purpose -driven, seeker -driven set now calls them collections. Yeah, I've heard this term used several times now.

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Self -discovery. And really, these thoughts come from the great theologian, the great pastor,

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A .W. Tozer. Now, I don't care how good the theologian is, if what they're saying isn't biblical, it's not true.

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This would include A .W. Tozer, and so if we can't find these seven rules for self -discovery as laid out by A .W.

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Tozer in the Bible, and the Bible rightly taught, then A .W.

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Tozer is wrong. Maybe you're familiar with that name, maybe not, but what

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I can tell you is that the wisdom that he speaks is gonna speak to your heart.

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He gives us seven rules, seven things for us to contemplate, and we're gonna dive deep into these thoughts over the next few weeks.

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I'm excited. Is she wearing pajamas? What is she wearing exactly? I have this experience with you as we discover more about who

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God's created us to be. When we say self -discovery, I'm not talking about what you have on, or what just your immediate plans are, because yourself far outlasts this life.

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Now, listen carefully to what she's about to say here. Yourself far outlasts life.

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What self are you talking about? Watch what she does here. We'll do some biblical work along the way, but let me back this up just a smidge.

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I'm not talking about what you have on, or what just your immediate plans are, because yourself far outlasts this life.

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Once my body is gone, and once I breathe my last breath, my true self, my soul, will just be getting started.

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Yeah, Dawn Cherie, I just have to ask the question, when you went to seminary...

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did you go to seminary? When you went to seminary, didn't they tell you that we are going to live as resurrected human beings for all of eternity?

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Yeah, you see, Jesus, he rose bodily from the grave, right?

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On the third day after he was crucified under Pontius Pilate, he rose bodily from the grave.

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He's the firstfruits of the resurrection, the firstborn of the new creation. Yeah, so the idea is that Christianity, biblical

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Christianity, teaches that, yeah, that we will experience eternity with physical bodies.

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So 1 Thessalonians 4 .13, we do not want you to be uninformed, brothers, about those who are asleep, so that you may not be grieved as others who have no hope.

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For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, he rose bodily from the grave, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep, talking about those who have died in Christ.

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For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the

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Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, and the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet, and the dead in Christ will rise first.

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Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the

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Lord in the air. So the idea is that moving forward, when Christ returns, we get resurrected from the grave, and we spend eternity as human beings.

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And so you'll note that Don Cherie here was teaching that my true self is my soul, and somehow after my body is long gone, my soul's gonna carry on.

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Yeah, that's ridiculous. A couple of passages will help here also in regard to our creation.

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Genesis chapter 1, in the overview section of creation, Genesis chapter 1 says,

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God said, let us make man in our image after our likeness, and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over the livestock, and over over the earth, and every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.

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So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him male and female he created them.

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Yeah, you'll note that we were created in the image of God, and the fact that we were made male and female talks to our physicality.

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Now chapter 2 gives us more of the details of our creation, and here's what it says starting at verse 5 of chapter 2, when no bush of the field was yet in the land, and no small plant of the field had yet sprung up for Yahweh Elohim.

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The Lord God had not yet caused it to rain on the land, and there was no man to work the ground, and the mist was going up from the land and was watering the whole face of the ground.

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Then Yahweh Elohim, the Lord God formed the man of the dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living soul, and a fesh, a creature.

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And Yahweh Elohim planted a garden into Eden, and there he put the man whom he had formed out of the ground, and the

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Lord God made to spring up every tree that is pleasant in the sight and good for food. So you get the idea here that when

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God created us, he created us male and female, and he created us body first, then he breathed into us the breath of life, and we became a living nefesh, a living soul.

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And this is all good, by the way. In fact, at the end of Genesis chapter 1, it says, and God saw everything that he had made, and behold it was tovmeod.

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That means very good. And there was evening, and there was morning the sixth day. So you'll note that we were created with bodies.

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We were never intended, and I mean this, never intended to exist apart from our bodies.

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And so we are comprised of a spirit, we are comprised of a body, the two combined together in one hypostasis is the one person who you are.

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To rip the soul from the body is... well, that results in death, and God has not intended for us to exist in that way, and your true self is not somehow different than your person, and your person is intimately connected to everything that God has created, body and soul, the two go together, and we're not going to exist as spirits for all of eternity.

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When Christ returns, our souls and bodies are reunited, and we have an eternal body that is like Christ's body.

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That's the point. So Gnosticism taught that the spirit is good, and that matter is bad, and Gnosticism was one of the first arch -enemies of biblical

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Christianity, and it denied the bodily resurrection of Christ, denied that the

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Anointed One, the Christos, ever was physically on the earth, and you know, and so this idea that somehow your true self is spiritual apart from your physicality, that is, again, this is

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Gnosticism, Patrick. That's the only way I can put this. Let me back this up so you can hear it again.

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...plans are, because your self far outlasts this life.

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Once my body is gone, and once I breathe my last breath, my true self, my soul, will just be getting started, because all of us...

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Yeah, that's Gnosticism right there. ...eternal beings, and so when we say self -discovery, we're talking about soul discovery.

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We're talking about the real stuff, and how many of you know that that begins with salvation, that the first step to soul discovery...

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The first step to soul discovery is salvation. Is there a biblical text that says that?

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I'm not familiar with that, and I think those are pajamas. ...is entrusting your life to Jesus, and all of a sudden, this brand new life, it unfolds before us, and so today we're gonna discover together what

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God's Word says about self -discovery. If you have your Bibles, why don't you turn with me? What exactly does

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God's Word say about self -discovery? It's a Psalm chapter 37. Psalm 37.

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Great self -discovery Psalm, apparently. We're reading from the Passion translation. Yeah, so let me just kind of put this out there.

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If anybody is attending a church where the pastor says, we're gonna be reading this text from the

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Passion translation, it's not a translation, folks. It is an abomination.

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It is not even remotely close to what God's Word says in the original language. It's not even close.

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So John Cherie Wilkerson is preaching, which he shouldn't be doing because God's Word forbids her from doing this, from the so -called

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Passion translation. All I can say is run. Run for your life.

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If you are a loser, you need to run for your life. You are being taught heresy.

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It's beautiful. It simply reads this, keep trusting in the Lord. Do what is right in His eyes.

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Fix your heart on the promises of God, and you will be secure. How many of you would say, that's my desire.

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I want to be secure. Feasting on His faithfulness. Make God the utmost delight and pleasure of your life, and He will provide for you what you desire the most.

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Give God the right to direct your life. What? I have to give

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God the right to direct my life? What kind of God is that?

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Apparently God isn't sovereign, and I need to give Him the right to direct my life. That's just weird right there.

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So let's take a look at Psalm 37 verses 3 through 7, and you'll see that this isn't even remotely close to what this text is saying.

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Psalm 37 verse 3. Trust in Yahweh. Trust in the Lord and do good.

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Dwell in the land and befriend faithfulness. Delight yourself in Yahweh, and He will give you the desires of your heart.

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Commit your way to Yahweh. Trust in Him, and He will act. He will bring forth your righteousness as the light and your justice as the noonday.

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Be still before Yahweh and wait patiently for Him. Fret not yourself over the one who prospers in His way, over the man who carries out evil devices.

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And I read that from the ESV, which is a good English translation. Every English translation has its strengths and its weaknesses, but the

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ESV doesn't engage in any kind of egregious nonsense like the so -called Passion Translation.

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It's not a translation. That Passion Translation, Brian Simmons, I mean just abominable.

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He's an N .A .R., New Apostolic Reformation, bizarre charismatic person, and we've covered him before.

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You can find the stuff that we've talked about regarding him on our channel,

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Search for Simmons, and you'll see that. But yeah, I'm not sure what

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Don Cherie is talking about here, but there's nothing in Psalm 37 that says we have to give

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God the right to direct our lives. Yeah, this is again a total train wreck.

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Pleasure of your life, and He will provide for you what you desire the most.

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Give God the right to direct your life, and as you trust

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Him along the way, you'll find He pulled it off perfectly. He will appear as...

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He pulled it off perfectly. Yeah, there's nothing even remotely accurate about the

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Passion Translation. It ain't a translation. ...your righteousness, as sure as the dawning of a new day.

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He will manifest as your justice, as sure and strong as the noonday sun.

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Quiet your heart in His presence and pray. Keep hope alive as you long for God to come through for you.

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How many of you believe that promise for your life? Come on, let's put our... I don't believe any of that, because that's not what

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Psalm 37 verses 3 through 7 says. ...hands together tonight.

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I want to take the next few moments to just talk... Yeah, I think those are pajamas. ...to you on this thought most wanted.

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Will you bow your heads and pray with me? Lord, thank you so much. So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna pause right there.

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We'll fast forward just a little bit. She'll tell a life story about her and her dad, and how spontaneous he was, and she'll kind of wrap up with this anecdotal story about a trip that they were taking, and their parents, her parents allowed her to make the decision as to their destination.

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It has everything to do apparently with what the Bible says about self -discovery, because the

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Bible doesn't talk about self -discovery, but we continue. But one of the most memorable moments of my childhood was a weekend that my parents said, hey, we're gonna go on a trip, so pack your bags.

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And we got in the car, and we started driving down I -20 in Louisiana, and as we drove down the interstate going pretty fast, they said, okay, where do you want to go?

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I said, what do you mean? They said, well, we're either going to Dallas or we're going to Houston, and it's up to you guys, so let's choose.

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And as we sped down the interstate, we had to make a decision of what we wanted the most.

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And there were a lot of opinions, and we went back and forth, but then we decided what we wanted the most, and we went that direction, and it dictated our destination.

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Can I tell you that life is a lot like that? That we are moving forward in time.

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Every second that is passing, we are moving forward in our own lives, and we don't get to call a timeout.

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We don't get to stop and say, hey, can time stand still while I figure out the order of my values in life, while I figure out what motivates me, while I figure out what matters the most.

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No, while life moves forward, we have to decide, as we move forward with it, what matters the most.

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And as we decide what matters the most, how many of you know? We have to decide what matters the most.

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That sounds pretty subjective as far as standards are concerned. It dictates our direction, and it dictates our destination.

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We all have desires in our heart, and they are dictating the very trajectory of your life, of your family, of your marriage, of your purpose.

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What is most wanted in your life? The first rule for self -discovery, according to A .W.

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Tozer, is what you want the most. Um, what?

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Does Tozer not recognize that we have a sinful nature, and that bad things come out of our heart and our sinful nature?

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Yeah, I think I'm gonna take a look at a passage that Jesus, you know, where Jesus talked about this.

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In here's what he said. I'll start at verse 17, because this is at the tail end of a whole teaching section by Christ, but you'll get the point.

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He says, do you not see that what goes into the mouth passes into the stomach and is expelled? So it's not what you eat that defiles you, but it's what comes out of the mouth that proceeds from the heart, and this is what defiles a person.

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For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander.

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These are what defile a person, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile anyone.

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So you'll note here that in this teaching, Jesus makes it clear that out of our heart come these evil desires, and so just kind of throwing it out there that this first rule of self -discovery, what do you want the most, is not a helpful question at all, because what

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I might want the most is something that is actually quite evil or sinful, because out of my heart, out of your heart, come all kinds of evil desires.

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What is this teaching? Gnosticism and some weird...whatever it is that I want the most is supposedly gonna help me on my discovery of self.

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Uh -huh. He goes on to say that all of us should get quiet, recollect our thoughts, wait for the mild excitement within us to subside, and then listen closely for the faint cry of desire.

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What? Okay. He goes on to say you can ask your heart what it would have over everything else in the world.

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I'm not gonna talk to my heart because my heart, that's the place where the evil desires come from.

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Where in Scripture am I told to talk and listen to my heart? Insist on truth. Reject what you think your culture, church, or family would have you say.

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When you know what you truly want, you will know what kind of person you are.

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Hopefully we're comparing our desires to the Ten Commandments, because then you'll know what kind of real person you are, you know, what kind of person you really are when you do that.

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What's he saying? He's saying, hey, don't just regurgitate what other the other people around you.

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure those are pajamas. You're saying you're not being honest with what you really want.

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If you really want to have self -discovery, if you really want to discover the... Do I really want self -discovery?

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Where in the Bible am I taught to want and desire self -discovery? ...contents of your soul and the direction that your life is taking, then you've got to be honest with your deepest desires.

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What do you want the most? So your homework this week is get quiet.

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You're giving me a homework assignment to get quiet. Recollect your thoughts. Yeah. Allow the

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Holy Spirit to dig into the deep waters of your soul. Why should

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I believe that if I get quiet and recollect my thoughts that all of a sudden the Holy Spirit's gonna show up and go into the deep waters of my soul?

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Huh? To reveal to you what you value the most. What matters the most to you.

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Because it's only when you understand what matters the most to you that you will be able to understand and foresee the direction that your life is taking.

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Yeah, Psalm 37 didn't say that. Do you have a biblical text that says these things?

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But before you have that moment of reflection, I think it's important for us to define what it means to want.

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Sure. Yeah, let's add some more murkiness to this muddy mess already. Okay. The definition for want is the desire to possess, and possess simply means to have as belonging, for you to actually own.

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Which biblical Greek or Hebrew word are we talking about here? So when we say, what do you want the most?

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What do you desire to possess the most? What do you want?

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See that very question is the first words of Jesus in the book of John in John chapter 1 verse 38.

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Jesus says, what do you want? As if to speak straight to the longing of our soul.

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This is absurd. Okay, hang on a second here. Gospel of John chapter 1.

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Let me find this real quick here. Verse 38. So yep, all of chapter 1 of the

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Gospel of John, Jesus hasn't spoken yet. Let's apply our three rules for sound biblical exegesis, which are context, context, and context, and here's what it says.

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John 135. So the next day, again, John, this is John the Baptist, was standing with two of his disciples, and he looked at Jesus as he walked by, and he said,

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Behold, the Lamb of God. And the two disciples heard him say this, and they followed

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Jesus. Jesus turned and saw them following, and said to them, Ti zeteete.

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What are you seeking? Okay, so this could be translated as, what do you want?

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That's one of the translations that's possible for ti zeteete. What are you seeking?

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Whom are you seeking? would be another way you can translate this. So let's just go with her translation.

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What do you want? And we'll keep reading. And so they said to him, Rabbi, which means teacher, where are you staying?

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And he said to them, Come and you will see. So they came and saw where he was staying, and they stayed with him that day, for it was about the tenth hour.

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And so one of the two heard John speak, followed Jesus, and it was

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Andrew, Simon Peter's brother, he first found his own brother, Simon, and said to him,

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We have found the Messiah, which means the Christ. And he brought him to Jesus, and Jesus looked at him and said,

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You are Simon, the son of John, you shall be called Cephas. So this has to do with the calling of Jesus' disciples, and even if you translate ti zeteete, zeteete, if you translate it as what do you want, it's not talking about what

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Dawn Sheree Wilkerson just said. Let me back this up, and you'll see that now that we see it in context.

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Watch how she makes a big to -do about these are the first words of Jesus in the Gospel of John, but she just rips it out of context in order to make it mean something that it's not meaning at all here.

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Desire to possess the most. What do you want?

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See that? I want to not have to see those pajamas anymore. Question is the first words of Jesus in the book of John in John chapter 1 verse 38.

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Jesus says, What do you want? As if to speak straight to the longing of our soul, to cut through the facade that all of us portray and say,

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Hey. No, Jesus wasn't cutting through the longing of our soul. Hi.

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What I'm really after is your deepest desire. No, that is not what

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Jesus is asking them. Ti zeteete, what that was about.

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What on earth? I can give my life. You can find an empty grave, but it's only when you choose that you desire me, that you love me, that you want me, that you will discover a brand new life.

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Come on. Does anybody believe it tonight? No. I don't believe a word you're saying,

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Dawn Cherie, because you twisted God's Word horribly every time you touched it, and you even taught one of the core principles of Gnosticism.

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So all I can say is that if you know somebody who thinks that Dawn Cherie Wilkerson or her husband or Vu's Church, oh, that they're the best thing ever, and that we need to be watching their videos and buying their books and nonsense like that, yeah, you need to send them this video to warn them, and we've done other exposés of Dawn Cherie Wilkerson in the past here on our channel, so yeah, keep that in mind.

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