Atheism destroys itself at the Reason Rally
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Jeff Durbin and Luke Pierson of Apologia discuss good and evil, value and worth in human beings at the Reason Rally in Washington, D.C. with two Atheist college students. The Atheist admits that her Atheism leaves her with no basis for good or evil and that she is not valuable.
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- people. I think that your atheism betrays your own lifestyle.
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- I think you're living in the world like you're God's creation, but you're denying Him with your atheism. And I would encourage you to investigate that.
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- Because otherwise, look, look, um, Taylor, Tyler, Tyler, Tyler, you're going to be, you're going to be in the position where you're going to go, for me, altruistic behavior.
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- And the guy comes along and goes, but for me, right now it's hurting you. And then you say, but you can't hurt me.
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- He says, why not? Because for me, it's altruistic behavior. He says, but for me, it's hurting you behavior.
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- And then what I'm saying is there are people like that. I know there is, but is that evil? Again, relative to me, that is evil, but to him, that's fine.
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- If he hurts you, I wouldn't like that. I would stab him back. Okay. But because, because he's offending you in some ways, he's hurting you in some way.
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- Do you have some value or dignity he's, he's hurting? With your atheism.
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- The nerves that flow through my body. I know it may be painful. I mean, it may be painful, but. I don't have a dignity that he's hurting.
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- Right. So you have no value. Yeah. Yes. You do or don't? I do not have value.
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- I'm irrelevant to the universe. I'm just a speck of dust. Okay. So ultimately, your evil, your atheism, sorry to say, your atheism leaves you with no basis for good or evil, and it leaves you with no value and no dignity.
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- And that's what's true. I think you're trying to be consistent, but I, I, here's what
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- I want to say to you. I don't think that you'll live that way. I think you'll, you both will live in the world, betraying what you just said, because I think that you know him, but you're living, trying very hard to suppress that because you're going to walk away in a minute and guess what you're going to do?
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- You're going to eat food today. You're going to love your friend. She's going to love you back. You're going to, you're going to drink water.
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- You're going to take care of friends. You're going to pay your bills. You're going to live as though you have value and dignity and worth, and that others matter too, but your atheism will deny that all of your life.
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- So I would just encourage you, ultimately, my call is just turn, turn to Christ and trust in him, because when you do, not only is there forgiveness and salvation, but there's a basis for science and logic and morality and all the things you live according to.