Honest Media W/Zach Lautenschlager & Dennis Sarfate

The Greatest Commandment and Loving God with All of Life

When the Scribes and Pharisees asked our Lord about the greatest commandment, He replied, You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.

So, why do we hear some of today's most prominent pastors saying things like this?

It had everything to do with how we talk about the Bible. And specifically, or along with that, what we point to as the foundation of faith, which for most Christians, unfortunately, is the Bible.

We need to do better. We need to love God with all our hearts and stand unashamedly on the rock of His Word. We need to love the Lord with all of our souls, and respond to the worldview issues of our day with the wisdom and discernment that comes only from Him.

We need to love the Lord with our minds, and understand the calling of God's people in every area of life in God's world. We need to love the Lord our God with all our strength, and face the work of building a life-giving God-honouring culture.

Join us for 10 days at the Runner Academy for Cultural Leadership as we consider how the gospel influences all of life and culture, and the role that we have to play in applying foundational Christian thinking to every area of life.

This is The Academy. I am Eli Ayala of Revealed Apologetics, and I will be bringing a six-part series on Presuppositional Apologetics. What is this called, The Apology Academy? It's just called The Academy.

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Opening Banter and Show Introductions

What's up, everybody? My name is Pastor Jeff Durbin, and you're watching Collision Today. I'm going to be interacting with an atheist on TikTok. So here we go.

Unsupervised and unhinged.

Welcome back to Cultus the Aftermath.

Hey, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Ask Me Anything. You are watching Apologia Radio's after show exclusively for all access.

Non-rockabotas must stop. I don't want to rock the boat. I want to sink it. Are you going to bark all day, little doggie, or are you going to bite?

Delusional is okay in your worldview. I'm an animal. You don't chastise chickens for being delusional. You don't chastise pigs for being delusional. So you calling me delusional using your worldview is perfectly okay.

It doesn't really hurt.

Is he hung up on me?

What? What?

Desperate times call for faithful men and not for careful men. The careful men come later and write the biographies of the faithful men lauding them for their courage.

Go into all the world and make disciples. Not go into the world and make buddies. Not to make brosives. Right. Don't go in the world and make homies. Right. Disciples. I got a bit of a jiggle neck.

That's a joke, pastor. When we have the real message of truth, we cannot let somebody say they're speaking truth when they're not.

Wash yourselves. Make yourselves clean. Remove the evil of your deeds from before my eyes. Cease to do evil. Learn to do good. Seek justice. Correct oppression. Bring justice to the fatherless. Plead the widow's cause.

And that is from Isaiah.

Chapter 1.

Farewell to Joy and the End of an Era

Welcome everyone to another episode of Apologia Radio. Very excited today. I got a couple good friends with me today. Pastor Jeff is... I think he might be flying right now. I'm not quite sure. Him and Carmen were in Missouri.

We'll talk about that for a hearing yesterday for a bill there in Missouri. We'll update you on that. But before I get... Oops, I'm having a hard time with my stuff here. So forgive me. I was going to say that today is a sad show because it is Joy the Girl's last show with us.

Ever. After like 10 and a half years.

So... It is.

Not excited.

Can you say never? Like ever? Would you have me on again? Well, I mean as a host, I guess.

Yeah, I guess we could bring you in. You're going to be doing Sheologian still anyway. So yeah, you know what I'm saying.

I'll come visit. Maybe I'll sit in this chair again. But you're right. Not as a host. I'll be a guest.

Yeah.

Which we treat our guests well. We do too. I wouldn't be opposed.

Yeah, I'm just not happy.

So.

That's just all there is to that. You'll be seeing a lot more Zach Conover though. That's for sure. He'll be... fulfilling that role more frequently. But yeah, we can talk more but it's just a sad day.

It's a sad day and Jeff's not even here to be with you, unfortunately. Yeah, it's definitely.

The end of an era. Yeah, a decade. Yeah, which I guess isn't technically an era. But how long is an era? I don't know. Do we know?

I bet Launchlogger knows. Probably.

Undefined. Okay. It's an era. Okay. There you go. An era.

Yeah. Zach, I'll just go ahead. Speaking of Zach, Launchlogger, he is probably has the most knowledge of unusable facts of any person I've ever met in my entire life.

That is true. That meme of the Roman guy blasting a kid in bed with historical facts is remarkably accurate.

Zach, always. That doesn't matter where we're at. And Dennis Sarfante is with us today too. What's up, dude?

Dude, I'll second this on Zach. Literally, we'll be walking through the airport. He's like, you want to know how you make this? And I'll be like, sure. It's like walking with an encyclopedia. Yeah. It doesn't matter where we're at.

History-wise too. It's impressive.

It doesn't matter where you're at or what you're doing. Remember that little podunk little cafe in Greer? Yeah. And he's like, oh, this glass is from this year, but I can tell because of the line and blah, blah, blah.

And I was like, how did anyone know that?

I mean, he could either be really honest and he really doesn't know it or he's just making it up because we didn't leave him anyway.

Yeah, if you have the confidence and you're kind of like, I'm supposed to be here, people kind of don't question. Yeah.

When I'm around Luke, I do have a fairly good radar about things he doesn't know about.

It's most things. About 95%.

I'll tell you what, if you ever want to go visit the air museum in Salt Lake City, he's your tour guide. So I'll tell you that much. He knew everything about every plane in there. I didn't even have to read the plaques.

Or Mount Rushmore.

We went to Mount Rushmore. It was amazing. He was telling us about the making of it, the chisels that they were using and.

Where the chisels were made. Where they were made. I went to Mount Rushmore one time and it was completely covered in fog.

Oh, the whole time?

Yeah, we like went out of our way to go see it and we got there just in time for the nighttime thing where they like light it up. They do this whole little display and then they shine these huge lights and it was just this wall of fog and we were like, okay.

That's what was the first time we went to the Grand Canyon. It was literally covered in fog. You couldn't see anything.

Yeah.

It's kind of creepy actually. You grew up, right Zach? You could like walk to the...

Yeah, I grew up close to Mount Rushmore. For several years, we did a dinner theater at the base. And I have a lot of friends whose grandpas worked on the mountain.

Do tell. What does a dinner theater at Mount Rushmore entail?

Well, my siblings and I played American folk music and I told history stories. And then people paid money for it, which shocked me, but it worked. Did you play the spoons and the washboard? Or were you on the jug?

Yeah, right? Stand-up bass.

He's got a great voice. You ever heard him sing at church? Yeah, I don't know how you can miss it. He belts it. He belts it out. We need him on worship team over here. He belts it out.

So, all that to say, I'm excited to have these two guys on here. We do so much together. We could spend the whole show just going down the list of things we do together, but the main reason we wanted to have Zach and Dennis on today was to talk about their new project, The Republic Sentinel.

But before we do that, I mentioned Action for Life. So, you guys, Dennis is the president, Zach's the vice president, right? Correct?

Yep.

And I am the chairman of the board.

So,.

I think a lot of people don't realize that Action for Life is our lobbyist arm of what we're doing with an abortion now. So, everything's hand in hand. We're doing everything together, but we're able to do stuff politically because it's a 501c4.

Abortion Law, Equal Protection, and Political Strategy

So, before we get into the Sentinel, Dennis, you want to update everyone on which one?

Yeah, well, first, I always call Zach my VP now. I started out saying he was my partner and that really ended up not being the best choice words.

These days, you got to be careful with that.

I have a wife. So, yeah, this past year, 16 states had bills of equal protection. We had more, I think, before Roe was lifted by the Supreme Court. And I think a lot of that was due to people wanting to fight it.

And now that the Supreme Court has overturned it, they've almost kind of just said, oh, well, abortion must be ended because Roe's gone. And I think that's the reason why we had some states fall off. But at least these bills of equal protection are the ones that are getting put in.

Now they've all died. I know Jeff went and spoke in the committee hearing in Missouri yesterday. They were given one minute. They were treated very poorly is what I'm hearing. And so that's what you're getting from these committees, right?

If it wasn't from Louisiana last year, where Zach was there for most of that, to listen to how these people treat us when we're trying to fight for the pre-born and to bring light to the situation, it's an evil that needs to be fought.

And I'm just honored that I get to do it, that God has allowed me to be a part of it. You guys have asked me, but to go through this and to learn the political side from Zach and how this all works, it really makes you angry because you get to see how politics truly is.

It is not good. It's not good. It reminds me of the days of Caligula and all that. You think about the kings and emperors. I'm teaching the girls at homeschool right now about the early years. It was a mess and I feel like exactly what our government is now.

So, yeah. Zach, how have you survived? What's it been? 25 years that you've been doing that? 26. And you still have some ginger hair.

A little bit. There's a little bit left there. The beard is compensation for the hair loss. Up top.

Not that you would know anything about that. Nope, I wouldn't. Not a thing.

He never takes his hat off. He sleeps in it. It's not true.

I've actually known Luke for so long that I know what he looks like without a beard.

Oh, that was a short period of time. Please explain what this looks like. I had to because I had to get an ultrasound on my jaw and they went in and they were like, yeah, we can't do this with a beard.

So I had to shave it and that was really sad. But I grew it back quickly. It comes back. It's been a long time. I've had a long time.

An old friend. An old friend. I need to see this, Luke. I'll find a picture and send it to you. No, let's just do it again. You should cut it on air like Joy's last. It's Joy's last show. I'm like Samson.

I'll wilt.

You know, it is a sign of mourning, Luke. I mean, if you're really serious about this sad act.

Oh, man. Joy, I can't believe you're leaving us. Yeah. Sorry. I keep coming back then. How long have we known each other? About 16 years, right? 15. Something like that.

Yeah, I had. I was probably 18 years plus three months old. Yeah. And now I'm 34.

Joy lived with us for a little bit of time. That was a fun experience. Before I had any kids. Yeah. But yeah, it's been a long time. Oh, yeah. Sorry. Lots. I am.

Like, I'm just like, in no mood today. It doesn't. I think it doesn't totally feel completely real at this point. So yeah. Until you arrive in West Monroe. Yeah. And then,.

And then Trey's your pastor. Yeah. Yeah. I don't like everyone here knows Trey.

That's actually pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah. If they if they weren't going to Trey's church, I would, I would not put the stop to it. I would have. I'm considering church discipline. That's for sure. Anyways, sorry.

Media Collapse, Woke Corporate Culture, and the Need for Christian Reporting

Hey, hey, Gabe, I'm gonna play something here real quick. Hold on. Before we get too serious, which I probably have people complain about in the chat.

If it like we aren't serious within 30 seconds. Someone quite literally said, no, James. Yeah. Jeff, no me. Bye. Well, just you know, James is very rarely on this show. True. I'm gonna okay. Christian viewers just don't like watching friends hang out.

Okay.

And have fun. I'm gonna play this video. Forgive me. It's not the best quality. But it's all I could find. Are you ready, Gabe? Yep. Okay, here we go. Oh, there's no volumes on.

Good. Oh, I see. Wow. I dug that one up for Dennis. That's hilarious. That's never been.

An apology. Six more people just dropped off the show. Yeah, that's enough of this.

I had to find a good video for you. I like that you queued that up just for your friend. Yeah,.

That was nice. He does make me feel really good. Yeah, like all the time with this stuff, like king of closer comments and this and that. I've been retired for I don't even know how long now four years and I just feel like he just keeps keeps me in the spirit.

You know, yeah,.

Always be the king of closer. Yeah, it's not like they're going to give that title to someone else. It's like that, you know, like the, the great Bambino or something like that. So yeah,.

One person, you know, I mean, yeah, we watched the last samurai the other day with the girls. And that was fun to kind of see Japan and know that we live there. And yeah, how that whole went down, you know, that was based on true story, true events, some of it, not all.

Yeah. The part that Tom Cruise played was actually a French military person who did that, which went over there and train. I never thought that the Americans would send over a general or whatever and let him go fight in a war in another country.

It's kind of weird, isn't it, Zach? I mean, you're the history.

Buff. Unfortunately, by that time, it was fairly common. We did it to Hawaii. Wow. And that was actually a big part of the apologies we had to make. The imperialism really started a little bit before Teddy Roosevelt, and he really put on steroids.

But after the Civil War, when Lincoln did what he did, some of it's good. But the way they went about it was very bad. And that imperialism really started to spread. Hmm. Hmm. Just put another damper on this show.

He's leaving imperialism. What else can we cover?

The Republic Sentinel and the Collapse of Legacy Media

Uh, how about media collapse? Yes. Okay. Let's just have more fun. Okay. So no, that's a good.

Transition, actually. So tell us about the Republic Sentinel, what's going on with that and what the plans are. And I'm very excited for actually had the pleasure of writing a little.

Article for you guys. I think you actually be in this Sunday. Oh, that the rooster Cogburn pieces. Oh, sweet. I didn't know that. All right. Yeah, it's starting to come sweet. Coming along. So we'll have a proof for you tomorrow.

Sweet. But the the Sentinel is a new news entity. It is growing at a thousand subscribers a day and has been for almost a month. Wow. We're very excited, continues to grow dramatically. The Green Dragon Tavern show is our flagship news talk show.

Once a week goes live on Friday mornings. Dennis and I just finished cutting that for this week. And you guys will be excited about it. Some of the give you a sneak peek here. The legacy media continues to suffer serious, serious consequences for not caring about the truth.

And that's really what's going on. Right. You look at them and they're they're saying you can't believe your own eyes. You have to listen to us. You have to believe what we tell you. And so that is not working out for them.

Vice News, appropriately named, is close to bankruptcy, almost certainly going there. BuzzFeed is in trouble. WaPo is laying off seven thousand people, I believe it's in. I believe it was seven thousand.

Both Fox and CNN are bleeding viewers. Tucker Carlson posts a video from his basement. It gets 80 million views. Fox gets one point eight million and in a slot that they got three million in yesterday, the day before a couple of days before.

So there is no question people are tired of being being told that you can't you can't believe your own senses. You have to trust us. It doesn't matter whether or not you can observe a mask working. It doesn't matter whether it matter whether or not you believe that the world is going to end in 12 years because of global warming.

You know, it's always 12 years. It was 12 years, 12 years ago. And now it's still 12 years. It's kind of like the Pagan's second return. You know, eighty nine reasons why it would be eighty nine. It's Harold camping all over again.

Yeah. And so people are looking for other sources of news and we are looking for ways to provide that service. The Sentinel has up to the minute reporting. We actually were the lead in breaking. There were a couple other smaller sites and smaller like us, but we broke the UN legalized pedophilia report.

We got it. That was before everyone else found that and got it out. I'm very excited about our staff of writers now and they're covering topics that that are necessary that you need to know about in order to interpret and impact the world around you.

So we were very excited about it and very excited to have Dennis co-hosting the Green Dragon Tavern show. Awesome. That's exciting. It is. I didn't.

Know that was happening. Yeah. And it's it's new to me to to be so in tuned with the politics and all the policies that are going on and what people are voting for. The biggest thing recently is the debt ceiling.

But I think the news thing is such a crazy thing because I was a Fox News, you know, follower all the time, especially, you know, Trump versus Hillary. This last election, that's all we had to listen to.

And now, like you've kind of saw after the 2020 election, they really went one way. And I was starting to think, well, that doesn't seem honest. And then you go to covid and all of these things that if you believe that a mask didn't work or if you thought that the vaccine wasn't a good thing, you were a conspiracy theorist, all this stuff, you know, that it was a man made out of a lab virus.

But if you thought that you were crazy and here we are three years later where they're starting to say, oh, yeah, you know what? That was right. And then nothing happens to them. Right. Right. They put this hysteria out there into the world.

Everyone's crazy. No one will even go near anyone. And there's no repercussions for them. They can say what they want, do what they want, even if they're 5 percent accurate. Yeah. And that's it. Yeah.

No accountability. What kind of news is that? Yeah. Yeah. Very boldly,.

Almost without almost like there's this assurance that like, well, they don't remember. Yeah. Just like not even anticipating anyone to hold them accountable.

They're Americans. Americans are dumb. You know, they'll get over the next thing, you know? Yeah. It's constantly the process, how things work. Like, think about the Las Vegas shooting. Right. That horrific thing.

Have you heard a peep about it? There was one random thing that.

Came out a few weeks ago. And they just like again, they just they were saying that part of his they were attributing part of his motive to like being upset with the casino. And that was however, that that article, I remember it stood out to me because you didn't hear anything about it afterwards.

And then what, years later, five, six years later, just one little article and then yet passed by in the news cycle gone again. COVID was like one of the one of the most permanent installations in the news cycle for I mean, since I've been an adult, like, I mean, really, there I don't think I can't think of anything except for September 11th in my life that like stayed in the news for as long as it did.

But I mean, I'm sure there's other things but.

And I think that's what's so big about the Sentinel is you have Christians who are doing the reporting the and you know, joy says it in the opening. If we have the truth, how can we stand to let them say they have the truth when they don't?

And it's like, we need to report the news like climate change is one of the biggest things and they they hold climate change up there like it's 100 fact still, still to this day. Yep. Bleeding the country for every penny billions of dollars poured into it.

And with nothing to show, like we were even just saying, like, I, I have never, not a single time, maybe I missed it. But I've never seen someone go, you remember how we had all that stuff for climate change and all the money and everything?

Well, this is what we built, we built a brand new skyscraper that runs off of dreams and hopes. Not even that nothing ever, nothing, no single building, no, nothing. Just like, I'm like, what did you do with all those billions of dollars?

Because I feel like I'd be able to do something with $1 billion. I feel like that's quite a bit. Yeah, I mean, like you could, yeah, you can really do something with it. Well, I think some of you said that it's I mean, the.

Media has been probably the cause of this, but just our, our, our culture is so our attention spans are so short. Right. And so it's like, the media comes on drops, this mass hysteria thing, everyone freaks out and you're right.

And then it's like five minutes later, well, let's move on to the next mass hysteria thing, you know, we forgot about, you know, because we're not able to like, step back and look at things objectively and see patterns and history and, you know, look at the big picture and recognize what's happening.

We just get caught up in the moment. And, and so that's why they've been able to prey on people for so long, but I think you're right. I think people have just, just had enough. I think the, I think this last three years of showing that and the election messes and, and, you know, going back to all these media places, folding, like, like Zach was saying, like my thoughts on that is because I don't, I didn't wear the shirt, but woke is broke, right?

Like people have had enough, I think, of, of the woke stuff and it's not selling and people, these big, big, massive companies that have been just going full in on the woke stuff. They're, they're bleeding.

Like, it's not just the media. It's like Disney, like places like that are losing money left and right. And it's not selling. And they're like, realizing that. And it was like, okay, that was fun for like three years while it lasted.

But you know, it was like, like Vice, for example, I used to really like some of Vice's stuff. They had some really, really good stuff. You know, obviously they had some really awful stuff too, but like they had some really great stuff.

You know, we used to always do Buzzfeed every, every episode. Remember? And I remember like, cause a while they had all those like fun little games and like quizzes and stuff. And then all of a sudden, like overnight, it switched to like completely woke.

I remember being like, I can't even read Buzzfeed anymore.

It's just obscene. So yeah, then it just became something to make fun of. But yeah, I think people just want, there's a lot of information to know out there. And so people want to have a resource that they trust.

And I think more people are, at least I hope more people are sort of realizing that like your worldview really shapes what information you find important or even just in terms of how you would read a situation or what's happening and what the implications of that are.

You need someone that shares thoughts like you that can help you like sort of wade through all this collective information that's out there. People just want something that they trust, that they go, well, like I know that this person reported it and I trust that person.

So like, I believe what they say. Well, yeah, like you said, at the attention.

Span, right? Everyone, you can get a newsfeed onto your cell phone, it comes up and right away, most people right now in the world, or even in this country alone, see it as, oh, that's fact, like this is definite.

Without like, I go back to Jeff Sermon last Sunday. It's like, where's your evidence? Like where's, let's break down the truth before you start jumping onto this and attacking the one side. Let's lay out the evidence and let's see like equal weights and measures.

Let's measure this out to make sure that this is honest reporting. And I think you'll go back, the last three years, there's been a lot of dishonesty within the media. Yeah. Well, and we've.

Like kind of collapsed our actual justice system in favor of like the court of public opinion. Nowadays, if you really want to stick it to someone and get justice, all you have to do is make sure the world hates them via the media.

But that kind of ignores, well, every kind of ignores, it totally ignores what this country was set up to be. So, you know, makes sense. We'd see some.

Decline. Yeah, for sure. With that. Well, I mean, it's even a problem within the church. You know, like I'm just, I was having this conversation with somebody the other day, you know, it's just always seems like there's some big theological controversy on Facebook, you know, and it's just like one thing, you know, and it lasts for five minutes, you know, and then it's like something else pops up a week later and everyone forgot about the thing.

Everyone was up in arms about the week before, you know, and so the conversation I was having was like, honestly, you know, some of these issues are important, but it's like, I just got too much going on to care sometimes, you know, like probably to a fault.

I'm like, I probably should care more, but I'm like, I got like real world issues I'm dealing with, you know, and next week someone's going to be on to the next thing. And but I think that's a problem within the church.

You know, if we want to, if we want to change the culture, you know, with the gospel, like it needs to start within the four walls of our churches. And yeah, we got to go from there. So.

The Green Dragon Tavern and the History Behind the Name

I have a question. Yes. Can you guys explain the name of the podcast?

Yes, Zach, go ahead. I'm sure Zach has some history behind that. I figured. It's awesome history.

Sit back. So Founding Father Samuel Adams, when the royal governor would disband the legislature because he didn't like the fact that they were doing their jobs, would say, let us go to the green dragon and talk a little treason.

And by that he meant we can repair to the green dragon as legislators and continue doing our jobs and the crown will call it treason. But that's the place we can go. The Green Dragon Tavern was actually owned by the Sons of Liberty, led by Dr. Joseph Warren, the man who sent Paul Revere on his ride.

Revere left from the dragon on the night of April 18th to ride to Lexington Concord. When the Boston Tea Party happened, the rally point was the Green Dragon Tavern. They left from there and marched across to the wharfs to where the ships were anchored.

It is the place where Joseph Warren received the news, probably from the military governor, Gage's wife, which way the British were going and what their intentions were during the battles of Lexington Concord.

And so it's always been the place where men and women who care about liberty and freedom gather to discuss the issues of the and to learn what they need to know in order to move forward and impact liberty and freedom.

So that's the inspiration for the name. The building is a new building, but there's still a Green Dragon Tavern there. It's not just kind of your normal Irish pub. It kind of looks like a normal Irish pub in there.

But the building next door was actually built before 1700. There are no building records for it because it was before Boston started keeping them. It's now the Union Oyster House. Across the street is the Bellingham Tavern, which is one of the oldest concurrently operating taverns in America.

So it's a really great area. If you get a chance to go downtown Boston, that's where it is. Go now while you can do it without a mask.

So I'm gonna play a game of Stump the Lautenschlager. Do you happen to know.

Where the original name came from? So no one actually really knows. There is a Green Dragon on a crane. There's iron things that stick out that the signpost sits on. It's part of our logo, and that was there from long before.

There is a Green Dragon Tavern in Lord of the Rings, and so it was the name of taverns in England. That's where both of them got it, and it's probably named for some tavern that somebody went to in England.

All right, well, I didn't...

There goes your opportunity to stump them. Wait, I thought I tried.

Well, you can try again. I'll try something else. We still have half an hour.

Wikipedia is handy, Luca. You're gonna be over there reading it, looking for trivia.

Yeah, Wikipedia, which isn't always your most subjective source of truth either.

It's true. It's a public source though, so it's an interesting... It actually is an interesting place. You can go and correct it. So Zach, you were kind of quiet when we were talking about.

Why a lot of this media stuff is folding. I was just curious what your thoughts were on that,.

If there's anything you want to add to that. Yesterday, the New York Times in their daily news alert, their daily email, had a piece they called the 90 story, and they were talking about how the hardest political stories for a reporter to cover and for repundants to analyze can be those that are neither 100 stories nor 50 stories.

They would define a 100 story as something that everybody knows is true, and here are the examples that they say these are 100 stories. Joe Biden won the 2020 election. The planet is warming. Crime and inflation are higher today than a few years ago.

Well, only one of those things is empirically verifiable. You can empirically verify that crime and inflation are higher today than they were a few years ago. You cannot verify that the planet is warming over anything more than a few years.

You could say that the planet is warmer now than it was five years ago, 10 years ago. That's empirically verifiable information. There is no information from 100 years ago. You can't go back 200 years, three, four, any period of time that has any significance whatsoever in defining global warming.

You can't. You can't call that 100 story, and you certainly can't call Joe Biden won the 2020 election. Well, he's president now, so in that case, I guess he won, but that's not the sense in which they meet.

Here they are calling that's 100 story, and then they say 50 story is typical news story where this side says this, and this side says this, and you just report it both, and you leave it there, and leave it at that.

Journalism. Their case for the 90 story is the debt ceiling fight, which is going on in Congress right now. It's the big news item. The Republicans in Congress are being dragged along by about 20 conservatives who include my friends like Thomas Massey, Andy Biggs, who represents Chandler, Dennis's congressman actually, Chip Roy, who's a great guy.