Matt Slick Live: September 27, 2024

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The following program is recorded content created by The Truth Network. It's Matt Slick Live!

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Matt is the founder and president of the Christian Apologetics Research Ministry, found online at karm .org.

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When you have questions about Bible doctrines, turn to Matt Slick Live for answers, taking your calls, and responding to your questions at 877 -207 -2276.

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Here's Matt Slick. All right, and welcome to the show. It's me, Matt Slick, and you're listening to Matt Slick Live.

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If you want to give me a call, all you have to do is dial 877 -207 -2276.

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And also, you can send me an email, that's easy to do. Just send it to info at karm .org,

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info at karm, C -A -R -M dot O -R -G, and put in the subject line, radio comment, radio question, and we can get to it.

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All right. No big deal. We have nobody waiting on the phones right now. So last night, for the second night in a row,

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I was invited in to discuss Reformed Theology in a chat room.

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And so, you know, but if anybody was there listening, you want to call in, you can comment about it. It's not a big deal, because we have slow calls on Fridays anyway.

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But here's the thing, is I've rarely ever been treated that badly by anybody, including atheists, you know,

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Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Catholics, Muslims, I have,

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I can't even think of, well, I have been treated worse than these guys, that was by the Universalists. They had stuff that was so bad, it was just, it was incredible, the stuff they called me.

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These guys weren't that bad. But they were bad. They were horrible, condescending, insulting, when they'd ask a question, there was an insult in it.

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You know, why did the Calvinists always deceive people when they say such and such? It's just stuff like this.

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And I said, what? What are you talking about? And they said, they said that the

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God of Calvinism is evil, and like, what? Where are you getting all this stuff? And then one thing, for example, they said, does

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God decree everything? I said, can you define what you mean by decree? And they couldn't define it, they just don't understand what

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God makes it happen. I said, well, there's a sense in which He directly causes or indirectly permits it. So both of those are within the decree of God, in that He will permit people to do things against Him, but it can't occur unless He permits it to occur within His sovereign plan.

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And I said, so the decree is by direct and indirect means. And they said, oh, so you think God decrees evil, doesn't

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He? You're saying that? I already get that message. He decrees His evil. And it's like, are you guys not listening?

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And this is how it went, rapid. And then we did an after show afterwards. And people came in, they said,

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I guess you didn't know, Matt, how bad these guys were. I didn't know. I didn't know. If I didn't know it,

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I wouldn't have bothered. But some things did happen out of it. There were people in that room, chat room, who were saying, you guys are treating

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Matt, and also a guy named Scott, he may call, I don't know. He was in there. He did pretty well. He's reformed also.

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He did really well. And even people, even an atheist was listening, said he couldn't believe how badly they acted.

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It was pretty bad. So they actually banned me so that I couldn't come back in and talk.

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I said to one of them, hey, you're total depravity is showing, and boom, that's it, we're not talking to you anymore.

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And it's such whining babies. My daughters have a name for people like that, they call them man babies.

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I love that term. I call them diaper Indians, you know, but they're man babies because they're diaper

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Indians. So that's what was going on. But man, and also this one guy, he said,

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Jesus, boy, they said, if everybody ever lived, and I said, really? He's sure.

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Which is the first day of 314 read, you know, say, and I quoted it to him, where God says,

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I get a kick out of this. God says, I've sworn to the house of Eli that the iniquities of Eli's house shall not be atoned for by sacrifice or offering forever.

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I said, so did Jesus bear their sin?

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He said, you said, of course he did. I said, really? He says, you got the context wrong.

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I said, okay, what's the context? He goes, well, let's read it. So you don't know the context, otherwise you wouldn't say, let's go read it.

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He goes, he got mad at me. And so we read the whole context, and it didn't change anything.

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So he finally admitted, one of these guys admitted, he says, yeah, okay, didn't do that, but that's an exception.

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He said, so it proved my point? You admit it's an exception? It didn't mean to admit.

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He didn't bear the sin of everybody ever lived, right? And we make a big deal. You're saying that's like everybody? I said, that's not what

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I said. Oh, man, these guys were just man babies. Oh, you know,

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I get a kick out of this stuff. You know, I got issues, but I love hate mail. I love wacko mail.

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I love it when people are just obstreperous to a point, you know, and then they get uppity.

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That's what it is. And he didn't like being cornered. And then at one point, I said, okay, so watch this 214, you know, and Jesus canceled the sin debt at the cross.

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And they go, yeah, that's right. That's what it says. It canceled the sin debt. This is what the one guy actually said.

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He said, I've said, well, wait a minute now. So he canceled everybody's sin debt, right? Yes. All of it, right?

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Everybody? Yes, that's right. Everybody. I said, except for the house of Eli. He said, he got mad at me for bringing that up.

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And I said, so everybody, okay, forget the house of Eli. So everybody said it's canceled, right?

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I said, then why does anybody go to hell? Long pause because I said, their sin doesn't, it's not existing anymore.

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It's all, it's all gone. Right? And what kind of receive it? Oh, so then you're saying that the power of the cross depends on what you do.

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How would you receive it? Oh, they didn't like that either. And so I said, so, uh, the cancer, what, what happens?

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The sin that's canceled at the cross, did it cancel for everybody? They said, yeah. They said, then how can, can anybody go to hell?

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And he said, cause they sin some more. Crickets, even the crickets are looking at each other like, what, what do you say?

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What was that? I mean, these answers were, oh man, they were bad.

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And uh, so that thing, I think that's why they kicked me out because they didn't like getting pinned left and right while they're calling me a heretic.

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But wait a minute. How can I be a heretic? You're the one saying stupid things.

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I didn't say that, but it was, it was, uh, they were, it's called stupidification from the, from the man babies.

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Oh man. You see, I have fun with stuff like this. Okay. Wait a second. You use that word, man, rather liberally.

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That's what humbled clay says in the chat room. Now speaking of which, if you want to join us in the, in the chat room, it's easy.

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You just go to rumble rumble .com forward slash Matt slick live and all one word and you'll, you'll find you can get in there and chat and that the people we've been in there, oh, they've been in there for a long time and uh, they get a little bit, uh, confident in their slight insults that deliver towards me sometimes, you know, they'll say the big jokes and stuff.

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It's all good. We all have a lot of fun in there. Uh, the light at the end of the tunnel was an oncoming slick train.

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Yeah, I like that one too. That's pretty good. Humble. Clay's got some good stuff. He does pretty well in the chat room.

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Let's see. Randall said before I left, I told them they weren't acting like Christians. They were mean and that they needed to apologize to you guys and repent to God.

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Yeah, that's true. That is true. Oh yeah. Last night was pathetic. That's what one guy says.

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Call in. We can talk about it. That doesn't talk about it. Nice Friday. Fridays are loose. So, uh, there you go.

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Being banned by morons is a compliment. Okay. Uh, let's see.

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So, uh, I didn't leave, see it live, showed up late and thumbed through it. They acted like liberal lefties.

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Uh, yeah. So you take it well, Matt. That's what Laura says. Well, I, you know,

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I, it's just, it's interesting to me how people can act so badly. The man babies, the diaper

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Indians, you can't talk to me like that because it's truth that I don't have an answer. So I'm going to get rid of you.

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See, that's how they handle it. All right. I guess I'm making myself have a good time.

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I don't know about anybody out there, but I'm cracking up having a good time. All right. I think when we had no callers, if you want to give me a call, the number is eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six.

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So let's try this. Let's get to some of the emails, email questions. And uh,

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I like this name. I tease this guy. His name is Bill. Cannot. And I said, what can I do? And uh, you know, anyway,

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I'm sure he's never heard that. So Matt, what are your thoughts on this? Something I just recently thought about when we die and the ease, even our physical brain and our spirit are disconnected and yet there is some sort of consciousness gets over that little bit already.

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My thought, could the brain merely be a sort of conduit between the physical brain and the spirit?

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Uh, the physical brain being a conduit to the spirit, that's what it means. And the spirit evidence that we have and the scientific evidence that we have a different parts of the brain working, lighting up or merely the physical communication with the spirit.

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Yes. Now this is, that's a good point. Good question. There's actually a lot of, it has been a lot of discussion even among secularists.

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How is it that the brain can affect the mind and what is that mind and, and uh, uh, an injury can affect your, um, your, your understanding of stuff.

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And I've mentioned this before. I had a friend back in San Diego and um, uh, he had a brain injury that they had to do surgery on his brain or something.

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And afterwards his friends told me this, that he became a Jew, he was a Christian and then lost his faith in Christianity and became a

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Jew. And they said it happened immediately after the brain surgery. You know, I'm not saying one connected to the other, but it was interesting.

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So, um, what is the relationship between the, uh, the mind and the spirit?

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Uh, can they affect each other? These are just discussions that people have had and we don't know all the answers to that.

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It's just good stuff though to talk about. All right. Um, the car people left when

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Matt was voted. Oh, that thing last night. Yeah, I left several comments in the YouTube thread.

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Yeah. Good. They acted really badly. They did. All right. Let's get to another question.

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Let's see. How about this? Can you please define sin nature and explain how humanity inherits sin because of Adam?

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Well, that's a good question. What is a sin nature? We have a human nature. So Adam had a human nature had, uh, still is human.

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Now, but here's the thing. When Adam was made before he fell, he was in a physical body and he had a human nature that was not fallen after he sinned, he was still human, but there was an effect upon that humanity in that now it was fallen.

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So what we have here are basically the difference between what's called essential and accidental properties.

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An essential property is necessary to the thing, but the accidental properties are not necessary.

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A sin nature is an accidental property, not an essential property. Let me explain. An essential property of a circle is it's roundedness, but all circles have roundness without exception.

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So a, an accidental property would be the diameter of a circle because the wall circles have a diameter.

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The diameter can change. You can have a diameter circle, one meter in diameter or half a meter or a mile or an inch.

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It doesn't matter. And so the, the distance or the length of the diameter is an accidental property.

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It's still part of the circle, but it can vary. And one circle can have a diameter of 10 inches.

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Another circle will not have that diameter, but it's still a circle. It could have five inches.

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So that's a difference. That's what accidental and essential is. So the essential properties of the human nature is whatever that stuff is, that's human, human, but the accidental property would be our fallenness.

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Now, and we know this because Adam was human before and after the fall.

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So how do we inherit Adam sin? It's because he represented us in federal headship.

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He was the one who was our ancient father. He sinned and then his fallen nature produces other fallen natures, biologically and spiritually.

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And that's how that works. And there's a music. We'll be right back after these messages. Why don't you give me a call? 877 -207 -2276.

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Be right back. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877 -207 -2276.

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Here's Matt Slick. All right, everybody. Welcome back to the show on this slow Friday. Nobody's calling in.

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Why don't you be the first? 877 -207 -2276.

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All right. As a heads up, I'll be on the radio all next week. And after that, I'm off for three weeks.

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We'll be doing reruns for three weeks from October, roughly 27th to the 27th, 28th, whatever

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I'm going to going to Europe. I'm going to be doing a Bible lands tour, so I'll not be on the air for that period of time.

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And we'll be checking out different countries, doing the footsteps of Paul. And so looking forward to that.

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And we're going to have a good time. Been prepping, getting stuff ready and all of that. So if you have questions and comments before then, well, call now, call next week, whatever it is.

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And we can blab. So the number again is 877 -207 -2276.

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Now, we can get back to the issue of emails here. Some of the emails.

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Now, that was Jennifer was asking that question. She asked a previous one, I think the day before an email.

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It's a good question, too. And it is a good question. So would any human have chosen to disobey

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God in the Garden of Eden if it wasn't Adam or Eve? I believe the answer is yes. The reason

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I believe this, this is my opinion. If you disagree, that's OK. OK, so I believe that only

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God has the quality, the necessary, essential property of holiness.

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We do not. And holiness belongs to God's nature alone.

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It's essential to his essence. And so he cannot sin.

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He cannot do what is wrong. But that is part of his divine nature. When he makes us, we don't possess holiness or divinity because holiness is part of his divine nature.

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Therefore, because of that lack in us, and it can't be part of us, then when he makes us in his image, then we will sin.

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Not because he makes it the case, but because in our freedom, this is my opinion, that it's just a matter of time before we blow it.

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Because we don't have all wisdom, all knowledge, and know what is right and wrong the way God does.

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We also don't possess the holy nature that God does. So it's almost a necessity that will fall.

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Not that God is making us do that, but I just think there's something related to the issue of we don't have divinity.

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We can't, because it would mean that God is making little gods and it doesn't happen. So I'm thinking that's why anybody would have sinned.

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I just think they would have. And part of the answer, I'm going to find this verse again.

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It is here in 1 Timothy 5 .21. I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus and of his chosen angels to maintain these principles without bias, doing nothing in a spirit of partiality.

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So chosen angels, I think what that means, this is my opinion again. I think what that means is that they were the angels chosen by God not to fall when

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Satan fell, and that God did something to them, worked in them. I don't know what it is, but enabled them or,

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I don't know, I can't even say, so that they wouldn't sin. And that's what I think is going on there. And so that's why

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I say, yes, I believe that they would have sinned. Everybody would have eventually. So she says,

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I'm a Christian, but I struggle feeling it's unfair that all humans automatically have sin nature because of Adam and Eve who disobeyed

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God first and brought sin in. Feel bad if I think this because I'm him. So think about this, that the way

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Jesus died for our sins, it wasn't fair for him to be beaten. Wasn't fair for him to go to the cross.

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And there, representing us, he purchased our redemption.

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And it wasn't fair, but it's what was good. It's what was logistically right in order for us.

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Well, the same thing with Adam. Sin entered the world through one man, Adam, Romans 5 .12.

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So he was our federal head, our representative, just as the last Adam, 1 Corinthians 15 .45,

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that's Jesus, was the one who represented us. So because Adam's representative ability was because of Christ's representative ability.

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That's what I believe, all right? OK, hey, now let's see your next question here. Do you want to give me a call, 877 -207 -2276.

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All right, so I got a notice. Cynthia's calling the show, but no one is answering.

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OK, maybe I'm talking and the producers didn't know that.

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Maybe they don't know if something's up. If there's a problem, I don't know. So what we can do is if she wants to type in in the chat room,

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I think she's in the chat room over there, let's see. Yeah, type in her question. And the chat didn't get to it, but you can do it that way too.

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All right, so maybe there's an issue with the phones, and that's why. So did you hear that callers aren't being answered?

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OK, let's see. OK, so now let's get to another email in the meantime.

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How about this? Matt, love your show. What is your stance on vaccinations?

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I think some vaccinations are very good. I think some vaccinations are not very good, specifically the

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HPV hepatitis B. I have no idea. A certain job employer wants their employees to have this, and I'm on the fence about this one.

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All right, so here's the thing. When I was working at a hospital and coming in contact with sick people, they required, in order to work at the hospital, they required certain shots and inoculations.

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And I agreed to it. I have no problem with that. And one of the reasons was because I didn't want to get infected, but also did not want to infect others who are sick.

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One of my jobs, I had two interesting jobs at the hospital in San Diego. I did it for a few years.

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I enjoyed it. And one was registering patients in the emergency room.

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And so a lot of people would come in. We'd do it in Spanish. And you'd meet people who were sick, people who,

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I got some stories, interesting stuff. And so we don't want to get them sick. If they come in, their immune system is run down.

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So vaccination for me is a good idea to not get them sick. And if they have some germs, because a lot of them,

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I'll just say it this way, they were illegals. We didn't turn them in or anything. They came for help.

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We just helped them. And a lot of them were illegals, you could tell. And who knows what country they came from and what diseases they might have.

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So this was a legitimate concern. And I was also a transporter. So I'd take people in and out of operating rooms, to the morgue, rooms for procedures to be done, transporting them.

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And so a lot of times these people would be in weakened condition. So it was smart for me to be inoculated, take those vaccinations, so that there wouldn't be problems with them.

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So yeah, I don't have any problem with that kind of stuff. Now, if it's just, you're gonna work delivering mail,

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I don't think it's necessary, but whatever. This employer, it's a security guard company contacting, working for an urgent care branch of a large hospital.

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See, I would think that would be okay. Because you're gonna come in contact with people at hospitals and urgent cares and things like that.

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And help info would be greatly appreciated. So that was, that's just my opinion. I'm not a doctor.

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I'm not pretending to be one or anything like that. I'm just a theologian. And if I had that job and they wanted me to take that,

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I'd go, yeah, okay. You know, I wouldn't have a problem with it. All right, so we had a caller coming in.

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And, okay, so there is a problem with the phones. There is a problem with the phones.

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We'll work through it, we'll work through it. Hey folks, we'll be right back after these messages. Please stay tuned.

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Be right back. It's Matt Slick Live!

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Taking your calls at 877 -207 -2276. Here's Matt Slick.

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Everybody, welcome back to the show. If you want to give me a call, the phones are now working. 877 -207 -2276.

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I called and tested on them during the break and they said, Matt Slick Live! And I said, hey, this is Matt Slick. It sounded funny.

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And so anyway, they were, I don't know what happened, but now they're working. All right, so let's get on the phones with Jan from North Carolina.

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Jan, welcome, you're on the air. Thank you very much for taking my call, Mr. Slick. Sure. I have a question concerning, are you familiar with and what is your opinion on the

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Infancy Gospels of Thomas? It's a pseudepigraphal document.

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It's an apocryphal document. It's not legit, it's not real. It's just something written later on.

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Attributed to Thomas. Has it been in existence a long time? I'm sorry, what? Has that document been in existence a long time or is that a relatively new thing?

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Actually, I don't know. I don't know when it was first written and first developed. But these things are, they generally came in with the first few centuries.

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Within one, two, three hundred years of Jesus because he was, Christianity was so popular, it heard so much that a lot of people were writing things about him and saying, hey, we know about this.

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And they were trying to start their own religious movements and they wanted Jesus on their team. So that's what the Gospel of Thomas is and the

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Infancy Gospel of Thomas and things like that. So it's probably written, usually within one to two hundred years of Christ, things like that.

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Usually, that's how they are. But no basis of truth, you don't think? No. Well, you see, the basis of truth,

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I can't say there's no truth in it, but it's not scripture.

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It's not considered to be authentic. It could be that someone who wrote 150 years later knows something in the

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Bible and wrote about it and so there's a truth in it. So that's what I'm saying is, it's not considered scripture.

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It's not inspired. Don't take it seriously. I hope you're not, okay? Do you have a reason for this?

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I don't know what's going on. No, I was just curious about, I had talked, spoke to my pastor and I was like, what, are there any stories of Jesus, you know, as a child?

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And I was just curious. I said, you know, just thinking with him having powers, he might not be fully aware of how to utilize that he might've done things that made his parents embarrassed or confused and things like that.

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And then, so I was looking things like the childhood of Jesus, of course, on YouTube, the Infancy Gospels popped right up.

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So, yeah. Yeah, I would not, I wouldn't worry about it. And the Bible says - You know, it spoke of the 12 clay birds killing his friend and being accused and saying, come back to life and say,

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I didn't do that. His father sent him to school, that kind of thing, you know, and he killed his teacher.

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You know, it was a really, that's why I'm asking you, because it was a very odd thing, so yeah.

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Yes. So here's some scripture that'll help you out with this. So this is the account in Luke chapter two, when the family of Jesus went into Jerusalem to go to the temple.

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And as would often happen, the families would be in a camel train, a walking train of people, mules or whatever it would be.

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And this would be often quite long. And so the families were extended, so your own child could be up 200 feet ahead, staying with friends or a cousin.

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And they'd be with him all day or two days. That wasn't uncommon because they were so tight knit. So they kind of lost contact with Jesus and stuff like that.

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They, you know, where are you and stuff like that. But at any rate, he says, why are you looking for me? This is Acts, I mean,

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Luke 2, 49. Did you not know I'd be in my father's house when he finally got to Jerusalem?

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And he did not understand the statement which he had made, verse 51. And he went down with them and came to Nazareth and he continued in subjection to them.

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And his mother treasured all these things in her heart. So he remained in Nazareth in subjection to his mother and his father.

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He didn't go anywhere else. Wasn't all this stuff. Okay. Yeah. That help?

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So, you know, that's an honest, I mean, that's something that can be verified. You can put your finger on that, you know.

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So it's nothing, but to just, and I was just while I was searching for information, I thought it might be

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Gnostic and I wasn't sure. It's a pseudo -piggy -poor.

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A Gnostic ring to it. Right. It's just whacked. He's vengeful. He's mean.

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You know, Jesus is portrayed that way in that apocryphal document.

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Yeah. It was a very dark, it was dark. Yeah, it was a dark, dark view of Jesus. You know, he teacher smacks him and instead of turning the other cheek, he kills him is not what

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I would expect. So, yeah. It's something a Muslim would write, you know. Muslims would write something like that.

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Well, I wonder who, what religion origin, you know, does that originate from? Who is that, you know, that believes that and puts that in their doctrine, anyone?

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No, nothing I'm aware of. But there are some groups that will use the Gnostic Gospels and they'll say they're true and they're, you know, they just don't have all their paws in the litter box.

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You know, they don't know what's going on. Yeah. So. It's more of a shock and awe kind of thing, a lot of it too, so.

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Right. Well, thank you for your information. That is what I wanted to know and I will not be concerned with those 12 mud birds anymore, so yeah.

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Good, because it didn't happen. All right. Exactly, exactly. That's right. Because it didn't happen.

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Exactly. Thank you. Thank you for your time. I do appreciate it. I call you often and I always love your answers, so thank you very much.

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Well, good. I'm glad. Thanks. All right. Well, God bless you.

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Talk to you again soon. Thank you, sir. Bye -bye. Okay. All right, we have nobody waiting right now.

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If you want to give me a call, all you have to do is dial 877 -207 -2276.

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And I'll tell you what I'll do now is, I'm going to get back to the emails.

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Get some more emails here. Here's one. What is up with all the Christians refusing to vote because both are wicked?

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Maybe what's up with it? Why should Christians vote? I'm voting for Trump. People are telling me to repent because of communism.

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Oh, man. So, I'm not sure

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I understand all the sentence structure, but Christians need to vote.

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And, man, it's a tough one out there. I would say, do a hierarchical structure of who's the very worst at the bottom and then work your way up and whoever's left, that's about all you got, okay?

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So, yeah, yeah. There's more I could talk about, but I won't.

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All right, let's try another one here. I'm looking for a Bible study that could be used for a college campus

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Bible study to reach the lost. Do you have any recommendations? You know, I know there's stuff out there like that.

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I do, but I don't know off the top of my head. However, if there was a ministry on a campus that needed something geared towards the college thing,

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I would be willing to write it. And one of the things I would ask is that the people who are gonna administer it give me feedback afterwards and or give me the kinds of questions and the issues are there and I can cater a

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Bible study around that, even though I do know the basics of what would happen in a college. I went to a secular college for two years and Christianity was just openly attacked.

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It was openly attacked. I remember in a philosophy class, get this, so I was gonna go to college in order to go to seminary.

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So I was gonna do my degree and so I went to this one college and I had to petition to get into the philosophy class.

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You gotta take philosophy, part of whatever you gotta do. And so I'm there in the very front row and I got my petition paper.

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So that I can get in the class and the professor will sign it and you get it already filled up, he'll take a few extra.

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So he's there and this pompous, pompous arrogant guy, he says, we're gonna study this, we're gonna study that, we're gonna learn how to think, we're gonna learn how to think properly and we're gonna believe in truth not like they do in the

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Bible. Like what, what was that? Just a flat out, unneeded, unnecessary attack.

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And I'm sitting there staring at the guy and I said, what, why, why, what?

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And he said, the Bible asks you to do things that are impossible, it's ridiculous. And I said, like what? And he said, be perfect, your

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Father in heaven is perfect. And I said, well, that's Matthew 5, 48. And the context, it starts in verse 43 where God says, love everyone equally.

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He lets the sun shine on the good and the rain shine on the good and the bad. I mean, the sun on the good and the bad. And so he's saying, be perfect as your

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Father is. It's in the context of loving everybody equally. That's all that is. And that's when

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I realized I made a big mistake because he didn't like being corrected in front of an entire class.

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And I just realized, oh, he's not gonna let me in. And so sure enough, when it was time to get petitions signed,

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I was the first one up. He said, we don't have any room. And I said, okay, thank you. And I walked back,

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I turned around, he's signing petitions for others. This is the bigotry and arrogance that is prevalent in a lot of colleges.

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A lot of colleges, no joke. Bigotry, hatred, ignorance, foolishness.

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And I might as well just tell you another story. So I'm in the same college, right? I ended up getting a philosophy class.

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I'll tell you what happened there too. But so I'm in a class, I've got a break coming up.

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This is good. Oh, you're gonna love this. In a cultural anthropology class, what actually happened in the class, oh man.

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This is how to win friends and influence people by Matt Slick. So take notes, folks.

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Here's Matt Slick. All right, and welcome back to the show. If you want to give me a call, 877 -207 -2276.

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All right, so this is what happened in this class. I was just telling the story here, is that I was in a class.

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I was in this class, Cultural Anthropology, and the woman teacher was particularly hostile to Christianity.

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She wasn't directly, but indirectly. You could tell by the things she was saying and her attitudes and dismissive kind of comments and things like this.

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She would say various things, and I could tell. And she was talking about how great evolution was.

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Evolution this, evolution that. So I decided to do some research on a particular hominid ancestor.

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The hominid ancestors like Australopithecus, Eanthropostasoni, Neanderthals, things like that.

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And so, I picked one. I forgot which one it was, but I picked one. It was a common one.

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And I studied it, and I discovered from the experts, these are the secularists.

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These are the guys with more degrees in the thermometer, like the curator of the British Museum.

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Things like this. All these well -degreed, well -qualified people who said this particular hominid ancestor was not in the human line.

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That it was something else. That it wasn't an ancestor. I just happened to find this information. I had it all documented.

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I had it with me. If perchance, maybe, she might particularly pick on that hominid ancestor as a proof of evolution.

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About two weeks later, you won't believe it. She did exactly that one.

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My eyes bugged out. Like, are you kidding me? This is like a dream come true for me.

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And so, I had the documentation right there. My notebook, which I carried. I notebooked all my classes, all my notes and stuff.

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She was pontificating. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Ancestor, blah, blah, blah. Evolution's true, blah, blah, blah.

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This is blah, blah, blah. So, I raised my hand and she called on me. And I said, so, you know,

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I did some research. Oh, man. So, I did some research,

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I said. And you mentioned this hominid ancestor. And I said, well, here, I have some quotes.

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And this quote is from so and so. And this quote is from that. All these qualifications.

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And I said, it's not a human ancestor. It's not. They said, it's not. It's not. I mean, I made her look bad.

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It wasn't intentional. But it was pretty obvious. She got caught, okay.

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And I said, so, what do you do with that? And she, oh, man.

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That face, you know, she was so upset with me. But she's trying to retain her composure. And she said in a semi -monotone, breathy voice, they're wrong.

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Man. Man, I'm like, oh, man, that's too good to be true. And so, she started talking.

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About how evolution is true. And this hominid ancestor. And I raised my hand, okay. Oh, man.

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I raised my hand. I didn't get a chance to ask my question. Because for the entire class.

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For the rest of the class. You know, 20 minutes to a half hour. She wouldn't call on me. And I kept my hand in the air.

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For this whole time. I kept switching my arm because I was getting tired. You know, I'm just polite.

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I didn't cause any trouble to have my hand up. And the students are looking at me. You know, I'm begging her.

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Like, what are you going to do with this guy? And I was going to ask the question. You know,

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I was going to say, well, excuse me. But you're a cultural anthropologist. And not a biological evolutionist with the degrees in it.

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They said that it's not. Why would you say that they're wrong? And why are you correct and they're not? That's what

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I was going to ask. It's a very pointed question. And worth a discussion. Right? She wouldn't call on me for the whole rest of the class.

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And, oh, man. She was stumbling at her words. She was so upset with me. And, you know, that's what you've got to do in class.

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You've got to do stuff like this to the teachers. You've got to knock them down with your pegs. And so, you know, time to go.

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And everybody's packing up and they're going. And I'm packing up really, really slowly. Okay?

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Real slowly. And so I made sure the last one out of the class. And I walked by her.

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I said, you know, I really enjoyed the class. I can hardly wait to come back, you know, on whatever day it was for the rest of the class.

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And her eyes, her jaw tensed up and her eyes, eyelids stiffened, you know.

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And I think the next day I saw her in the hallway and I walked by her. She would not look at me.

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She was obvious. It was obvious she wanted nothing to do with me. Okay? So it doesn't take much to destroy teachers.

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Boy, listen to me talking. You know, it's not like I want to destroy them, but it's like, come on, you know.

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Just don't, of course, you know, how's it going to affect your grade? So, because they're so bigoted, they're not fair.

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If I was in a class teaching something at a college level and someone contradicted me, I'd say, really? Okay. Well, let's talk about that.

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I said, maybe I got it wrong. I would tell the class, maybe I got it wrong. You know, this is okay. Let's look and blah, blah, blah.

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Let's just say that it came to the point where the guy or girl proved the point. I'd say, you know, that is awesome.

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I'm going to give you a little bit of an extra nod towards an excellent grade because that was good and I want the class to know no teacher has all the answers, but we can learn together.

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That's my attitude. That would be my attitude, okay? I would have no problem with that. I would encourage that kind of discussion.

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I might even throw something out on purpose. That's stupid. Let's see if anybody buys into it. And if they do buy it, they'll go, wait a minute, did you hear what

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I just said? Come on. So, anyway. So, I get into another philosophy class, right?

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And so, I get in there and I keep my mouth shut for the first week. I want to make sure

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I'm not going to get kicked out because I needed it for my degree, whatever it was. I had to graduate and all this stuff and transferred units and stuff.

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Anyway, so, but, you know, I'm going to speak up. Once I'm secure in the class, here it comes.

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So, the professor, and he was a better professor than the other guy, better philosophy professor. This guy was, he was fair and he was intelligent and he wasn't uppity like some are who think,

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I'm a college professor. I know everything. You must bow. That kind of stupidity. So, he would say stuff and, you know,

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I'd raise my hand and I'd just say, well, what about blah, blah, blah? And so, we had these discussions in the classroom.

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He would occasionally attack the Bible or attack Christianity, attack something, but it wasn't a vicious attack.

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It was a reasoned kind of proposition. And that's why that is a problem over there in the

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Bible. And I'd raise my hand. So, what about this as a response? And I would do this. And so, it evolved, for real, it evolved into the class where what would happen is that he would say something that had anything to do with Christianity.

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He would, after he was done, he'd just look at me and go, okay, Matt, give us a response. And I would. It evolved into that.

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What was interesting was, he was, I got a great grade and he was a good teacher, you know, and he wasn't a bigoted twit.

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He didn't agree with me, but, you know, he didn't penalize me for disagreeing with him and having discussions.

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That was good. I like that kind of thing. So, anyway, this is what happened. I was in a,

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I was out in the parking lot getting into the car, my car. And one of the students, fellow students in that philosophy class came up to me and parked nearby and says, hey,

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Matt, Matt, hold on, hold on. And I said, yeah. And she said, look, I'm a Christian. I said, oh, okay.

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I didn't know anybody else in the class was a Christian. I said, okay, you're a Christian, good. And she said, I go to such and such a church.

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She said, this has been hurting my faith, what he's been saying. And different classes, it's been hurting my faith.

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And he said, you're keeping it for me. You're helping me understand. And it's strong.

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Stronger because of the comments you make in class. You have answers. And I said, well, praise God. Praise God.

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You see, that is, that's just evidence of how hostile the academic realm is.

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I would, I mean, if I was, God granted me more time, you know. I mean, I'm almost 68 here.

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If he said, okay, in a vision, okay, you've got another 50 years, I'd say, okay, good. Hey, honey, I'm going to go back to college.

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Or I'm going to go get another degree. Or I'd go take biological evolutionary stuff. That's what I would take.

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I'd want to study biological evolution theory. Oh, I think it'd be great. I'd like to get into chemistry and cladistics and epigenetics.

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Oh, I love that stuff. I even like saying the words. It's good. With a minor in quantum physics. That would be my idea of a good time.

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Seriously. If they have minors in quantum physics. Depends if it's a plank minor, which would be really small.

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That's a joke for those who might know. And so, to go back and challenge the professors and stuff.

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And I remember back here at Boise State University, about 10, 15 years ago, I was asked to go into a philosophy class and give a presentation on why

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God exists. And I still remember this. The students had no interest in this topic.

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None. They had none. I could tell. They're just there doing their time. They would rather be on their phones.

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They'd do some stupid philosophy stuff, which I could teach. Not that I'm that good at philosophy, but I wish

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I could teach on it. Because I know enough to really present stuff.

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But at any rate, so I'm presenting this information, basic information, on logic and philosophy and stuff like this.

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And I was dumbfounded that the students didn't even know the basics. And they were in a philosophy class.

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Now, I'm not knocking the teacher, because I didn't know what the dynamic was. But the impression I got was they just didn't care.

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They were not interested in any evidences or any proofs or any logic or anything. They didn't care. And it was interesting.

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You know, that was interesting. Because, believe it or not, I'm just rambling because no one's calling here. I did a stint at a

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Christian high school where I was a substitute teacher for a while.

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And then I did so much that they asked me to teach a couple classes. And so this is a Christian high school.

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And there was a lot of unbelievers who would go there, too, because their mom and dad wanted their kids to be better behaved. So they sent the bad boys to the

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Christian school to hope the teachers would fix them. And I discovered that a lot of times the

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Christians didn't know anything either. It was pretty... Now, this is high school, of course.

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But you've got to dumb down your knowledge level at their level. They're not stupid. I'm just saying, you know, what level they're at.

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And at that level, you'd expect them to have certain areas of knowledge. And they didn't even have that in a lot of areas.

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And so I would go from class to class to class. And I would teach Spanish. Or I would teach drafting. I would teach history.

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I'd do biblical theology. And these students would be in the same class and go,

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How can you be in all of these classes teaching these things? And I said, It's easy. You study.

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You study. You guys don't study. And I'd say, Let's talk about stuff. That reminds me.

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One of my greatest teachers in college was Rod Rosenblatt. He recently passed away.

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He was a Lutheran professor. I went to a secular college for two years and then a Lutheran college for two years.

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And Rod Rosenblatt. He was Dr. Rod Rosenblatt. He was a great guy. And I'd take him to the airport.

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I'd run favors for him. You know, do this, do that. Transport him here and his daughters and stuff like that.

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Kids to the schools and stuff. He didn't pay me a little bit of money because we didn't get much. And it was a nice way to make a little bit of food money.

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But what was really great was that there was a few of us who would follow him around for classes.

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We would just take a class. If he taught that class, we wouldn't took it. If he taught that class over there, we just took the class because he was teaching it.

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And the reason we would do that is because, even though we may not have had that particular interest in that class, it might not be the most interesting thing for our subject matter and our major, but it was within the realm of an elective.

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He would take his classes because he was such a good teacher. And what he would do is he would teach you the course material, but he would get it out quickly and say, this is what you need to know.

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Here's the things. Look at this. Put this together. Then he'd say, now let's talk. And that's where we would discuss.

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And he would let us throw out ideas in philosophy, in logic, in theology.

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And if we disagreed with him, that was okay. And it was so freeing to have a great teacher like that.

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I loved it. I learned a lot from him. Hey, there you go. I've just rambled for most of the show. Hope you enjoyed it.

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May the Lord bless you by his grace. We'll be back on the air on Monday. And I hope you have a great weekend, everybody.

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