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You can say what you want, but you won't around me. I got nothing to do with it.

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There we go. Black sheep among misfits, a misfit in the trailer park at night, a misprint with the six cents, been sick ever since my brother died of an

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O .D. My two cents never made sense, either to me or anyone else inside of the sheep fence.

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My 9th Smith on my right side. Why you staring at your cop dot sign and my

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John Hancock on the dotted line? Tell me what's the bottom line. The bottom line is

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I'm not right. I'm not left, but this elephant won't fight. There's nothing left but the spotlight.

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Hold my beer, you can find me in the moonlight. You can say what you want, but you won't around me.

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You can say what you want, but you won't around me. I'm within the deep end and I can't find my assigned seat to sit in.

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My theology don't fit in. Black sheep of the Reformation sheep pen. To the

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Reformed, I'm just another Baptist, baptized again. The bastard child of Anabaptist.

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Hostage child of Reformation society. We don't need your education. Give me a

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Bible and a bookshelf of dead men. Cigars, bourbons, and beer cans. Bow ties, tattoos, and bearded men.

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Making Reformation great again. You can say what you want, but you won't around me.

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You can say what you want, but you won't around me. You can say what you want, but you won't around me.

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All right, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to Open Air Theology. Theology. This is a show about theology.

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We're just some street preachers getting together and to have a good time Have a conversation

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We want to welcome everyone who's able to meet with us tonight and also those who will see this later

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My name is Jeff. I am one of the pastor elders of Covenant Reformed Baptist Church in Tallahoma, Tennessee If you're ever in Tallahoma, and you don't come by and check me out.

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I want some hate throwing some shade Pass it over to my brother

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Brayden Yeah, Brayden Patterson. I am one of the two pastors of Valley Baptist Church in southern,

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Idaho and Hagerman Just sitting here outside. Enjoy my ollie pop. Somebody already commented.

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Isn't that like $2 and 50 cents a can? I don't know. My wife bought it. She got it on a deal. I think I really hope it's not $2

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That's too much for a little can I'm also the the the I also have a YouTube channel called reformed ex -mormon

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It'd be a blessing if you went and checked out that and it's just a real blessing to be able to be chatting with these Brothers here on open -air theology.

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I'll pass the mic down now Hey everybody. My name is Tom Shepard, and I'm a member of Grace Bible Church of Burning, Texas It's just about 20 miles north of San Antonio I'm co -host here with these guys and also the host of even if none

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Reformed evangelism podcast, so I'm glad to be here as well Sweet man, it's good to see y 'all's faces a

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Good day of worshipping the Lord I know we like to begin this by talking about how our

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Lord's Day went I didn't I told y 'all earlier like Like today

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I kind of felt off like I feel like I've been flowing really good the last few weeks in my preaching

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But even before I started preaching today, man I just felt off and I understand that you know that we are in a spiritual battle

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Constantly, right and I would say especially for pastors I just want to encourage people out there to be praying for your pastors

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Listen, especially while they're in the pulpit Yeah, so Yeah, so my

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Lord's Day was good, you know, we got to worship with with the fellow Saints But I just felt like I was off today

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I hadn't went back and listened to my message yet I'll do that tomorrow, but I kind of feel like I dropped the ball to be honest with you.

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I Am I am I breaking up still is my internet acting up a little

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No, you sound good. You're loud. I mean, but that's normal Let me turn down my thing here, hold on you're running hot son put some water in that thing

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Hold on here. Here we go Here I just want I won't be there we go. So my wife just said that I Have a typo.

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I said hat wife instead of hey wife Okay, so she usually has to Edit everything for me.

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Otherwise, it's it's boring Yeah, I got one of those today Yeah, that's good.

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It's good to have those there. There are helper for our spelling issues. Yeah Yeah, for sure for sure.

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So how was your Lord's Day? Man, it was really good. So Michael Beck was preaching today in Romans 13.

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He's been in in Romans forever and We started off, you know talking about Romans 13 and how

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Paul was giving us Orders or a command to obey area or obey every ordinance of man, you know that God has fears of Authority that he's commanded and one of them is, you know, civil authority government authority somewhere in the church

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Somewhere in the family and then there's also You know conscious issues conscience issues

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So today was the exceptions of when not to obey The government when they step outside their line, so it was really good everything everybody was waiting on that but even better was our evangelism ministry that that we've been heading up lately and we have we recently had a sign up and over 20 people have signed up to be a part of the street evangelism ministry

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Yeah, we went out to San Antonio yesterday at the pearl we had eight guys come out

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Have some opposition one guy was screaming in my face and it was it was fantastic it was a

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You know, God is faithful and and and and just growing the ministry being consistent

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So I'm really happy. Yeah excited, you know when you finish evangelizing you go out you just come back

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You can't even sleep because you're on cloud nine, you know God blesses the ministry of proclaiming the gospel.

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So it was great great Lord's Day today. Oh Mine was was a blessing

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I just got a preach on Galatians chapter 2 verse 17 and 19 just a really really great text

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Galatians is super theologically Deep and rich and it's a well that I don't think anyone can find the bottom of and so it's a real blessing just to Be in there and then later just just got home like 15 minutes ago

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From being able to go to Eastside Baptist Church in Twin Falls Listen to Mark Chansky preach and him talk about the

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Reformed Baptist Network and just got a fellowship with him He's such a kind guy. And so it was a real blessing if Mark Chansky does see this

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So thank you again for being able to come out. It was a real blessing to the fellowship and worship God with you

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So he came out like in the spur of the moment, didn't he? Yeah, I did Crazy, so he was going to Nampa Which is about two hours from where I live about two hours and 30 minutes away from the church that he was at And he was going there because there's a church in Nampa sovereign

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Grace fellowship in Nampa that is joining RB net and so he was going out there to preach and introduce them to stuff and whatnot and So I guess while he's flying out here

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He's praying that that he he is only got so much time in Idaho And he really is praying to find pastors that want to hear it

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Just to hear from him and hear about the network. And so he's praying about this and then

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I message So it just the way that it happened. It was pretty cool. And so I messaged him.

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He called me I was able to call five other pastors that are also 1689 in this area reformed out

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This and we all met together at Eastside Baptist Church. We're just helping coordinate that it was it was a blessing

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And so I think we all walked away encouraged and he gave a fantastic message That's awesome

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I don't know if y 'all heard but Christianity has lost its teeth. I Heard Elon Musk said that actually wouldn't it?

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Yeah. Yeah Yeah and I you know like a part of me wants to agree with them because I believe that the teeth is the gospel of Jesus Christ and some of these

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Pastors and pulpits are so limp wrist dick. They wouldn't know the gospel if they read it from the scriptures

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Yeah, they're tripping over their skirts to get into pulpit. I think a lot of them Yeah, yeah, absolutely

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You know like, you know, it's kind of I'm talking, you know, I'm kind of reminded of that song and it's some shady song with a real some shady

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Please stand up as I was a real Christians, please stand up Right, but will you use the weapon of warfare that God has given to us?

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Right the gospel of Jesus Christ to go out and evangelize the world Right.

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Yeah, man, you know I posted it by Christians, man. I just cannot stand it You show me a church that doesn't have strong men and I'll show you a dying church

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That's right, man. I mean, you know, I posted it today, you know I just got through bragging and I can't help it because I'm just so happy that we had 20 people

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But hey, it's not enough. We need more people. We can't let up we need to go out get out of the pews and go share the gospel in our neighborhoods and Stand up against this wickedness that's coming against us

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Constantly over and over and over. So yeah, I hear people talking about we have to do something

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I was like, well, we've been given our marching orders To go out and to make disciples.

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Are you going out making disciples and then they say no I'm like, but I really don't what do you got to say to me?

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Yeah Yeah Yeah, everybody's happy about you know, when we in in service and I'm not talking about my church because thankfully

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We're getting out there and going up but a lot of these people say well, you know We got to be a gospel oriented church. We need to go out there and share the gospel and everybody's in hearty agreement

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Yes, amen, and then you're quiet, you know So yeah, we need to we need to get out there guys and it's such a blessing, isn't it?

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Every time I go out it's a blessing to go out there and share the gospel people Yeah It's hard to find a close second.

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Yeah, it really is Right. I mean it is a chore, right?

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You're nervous before you go like listen. I've been doing street preaching since let's see.

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I Started doing a van, you know evangelism regularly around 2011 street preaching specifically around 2012 2013

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But just going out regularly sharing my faith with people since 2011 and I still

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I still get nervous Yeah, well one way you know, yeah, so we need to be fearful of that to make sure that we're presenting gospel and also in communicating gospel in a way that You know the same way we would evangelize our unbelieving family or unbelieving friend, you know

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Completing with the come lovingly but bold enough and and loving enough to be able to tell them Listen, if God doesn't intervene in your life unless you realize your your spiritual condition is dead

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And your sins if you don't come to Christ and you die in your sins Eternity is a long time.

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It's it's forever Never ending never ending Yeah Good good plug

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Braden you're right ready for us. I'm gonna be loud I Already know

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I agree with everything you just said Yeah, well, you know all that just to close by saying yeah,

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I mean listen heathens are gonna heath yeah Right. I don't expect non -christians to act like Christians All right, just like I don't expect

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Christians to act like heathens I expect what we're seeing to take place because they're worldly and the gospel is

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Foolishness to those who are perishing so all this stuff that we see going off you may

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I mean going on in our world today Well, it's because the gospel was foolishness. God said it is he he ordered it in such a way that it would be

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Right. Mm -hmm. I mean it just is what it is What we have to do is be faithful and go out and preach that What they call foolishness because not only is it foolishness?

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It's also the power of God to salvation. Yeah You want to see the teeth of the gospel another

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Christianity, it's the gospel we got to go out there and preach I Will I will say this flow on it is that I've been seeing a lot of a lot of Christians almost

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They almost say Well, the world's gonna be the world so and that's almost like a cop -out about not doing anything right not saying anything

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Yeah, the world's gonna be the world. No Yeah, no they will but you're not being the church either right now by just blowing off Like I don't know

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I I shared a picture of it where it's of course the Last Supper and then there's people well The Last Supper painting is is blasphemous.

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Anyway, okay, regardless the point of it is is that they're trying to Blaspheme the

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Last Supper of Jesus Christ God in flesh by putting an act on Regardless of the painting or not.

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It was a terrible Sinful wicked thing that was being said It needs to be called out people need to be told to repent and believe and and you know what?

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Yes, we should pray for their souls but also One of the signs of the times right is that we we know that there there's going to be in the last days

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Which I think we've been in the last days for the last 2 ,000 years, right? You know in the last days there's gonna be wicked evil things going on like what we're seeing right now and So yeah part of the cry to say

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Lord Jesus come that is an imprecatory Prayer that you are wanting a little

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Lord Jesus to come and pour out wrath on these people The most the worst purgatory prayers for for the numbers

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Absolutely comes when he comes that's it Yep, those that didn't bend in me

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Are gonna be tossed both body and soul into hell. Yep.

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So yes pray for him yes, tell them to repent and believe but don't use it as a cop -out to just hide and not say anything and It's I don't know.

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It was kind of a little bit shameful some of the things I was seeing on my Facebook post with it For the most part people think that you know, as long as I say something on Facebook, I'm doing something.

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No No As long as you're doing something in your echo chamber brother. You ain't doing nothing

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Take it to the public square Preach the gospel. That's right.

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Anyways, what are we talking about? Latinism Kinda we we glimpsed into it.

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We did this I would say we destroyed it is but I might People's elbow on that thing

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We put the people's elbow the macho man Randy Savage elbow, right?

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Okay You should throw this up on the screen

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I got no one ready for us Hot spot your phone.

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Oh, yeah, he's frozen I gotta let it go brother. Let it go

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The waters deep over here The water is deep

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I just hop spotted Yeah, yeah Right on those Who's talking bad about you

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I tell you I have experienced this so I'm just saying I know I Got to put it on hot spot quick when that happens

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All right, so my phone is up Yes, throw it up. All right, so we gave y 'all a sneak peek of it last week.

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We're gonna go through it today That's right. Yeah, so right here what you are looking at on your screen is what's off of latent flowers

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Soteriology one -on -one's website on here. He wrongly calls it provisionism because everybody knows it's really latent ism and so last week we went through these single point by single point and I I think

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It just showed that they were butchering the context of each one of these verses and taking them out of context to fit fit into a presupposition and Elevating their free will to a place.

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They did This Layout that you see right here and the content and the proof text that they give they're doing the very thing

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That they accuse us of doing of taking things out of context. That's right all right, they accuse us of taking things out of context and they develop something that takes everything out of context and just like I told the other guy and and for the right because I Challenged to debate latent flowers one time.

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He would not debate me and then I debated Jason Brita which

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I Won't break the news, but but I've been talking back and forth with him

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Anyways, I debated Jason Brita and that was one of the things that he says that you know Calvinists take things out of context and here they are taking everything out of context and I told him that I can write

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No, it's like I can give you the context Biblical context and historical context of every quote

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Every verse that I mentioned He could not Yeah And he couldn't answer the questions that you answered every question that that he had offered and he couldn't answer any of the questions

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That you you answered back to him and then he just he chalked it up on not being a good debater

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But you know every one of the verses I think we went over it last week Everyone Well, didn't we go through well, yeah, but we went through several in every section

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We read and we would agree with them in their context like you had said, but they take it out of context with their

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Yeah So what we're doing today, so you obviously we we fix the title from provisionism to latent ism

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But what we after last week have done is we are going to fix

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Latent ism God's love and provision according to scripture, of course, because we don't like to insert our presuppositions into the text and this is what we have come up with is

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What am I doing? Bam, there it is. Oh, yeah Look at how beautiful this is.

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I can say I'm a provisionist right here. If this is what it means. That's good That's it. The Lord has provided right look at this

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Not that not that one Up there.

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Oh beautiful everybody you need a you need to take a screenshot of this and And read through it later and share it around on social media as I'll try to post it up on the book face later today

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But you can do it yourself as well Yeah, so we're gonna go through this one point by one point.

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We might get through them all day We may not who knows but as you can tell latent ism fix. We have our logo up there

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I know my name on there God's love and provision according to scripture, that's what we want to define all these things based off of And I will be going back and forth between this just to show the difference between each one of the points

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All right, let's do it, okay Guys want to start with the number one? Yep. First one.

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You got to pull it up. I can't say okay. Yep That's good

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Go ahead read it. I can't see it that that great to read Working I'm working on my iPad is mine something happened to my laptop

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Okay, so I got it God the only sovereign first uncreated cause has predestined all things

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According to his holy wise will and therefore nothing is meaningless or without providence

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Amen Well, that's a pain that I can get behind So let's just look at this the comparison people sin was last week

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We talked about how it's trying to remove What we have died and Adam with that that there's almost what what's being put out here by latent ism in general is

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Is trying to remove? That fallen nature that death nature that child of wrath that we see in Ephesians 2 and Romans 5

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From the fall and so I fixed it now with starting off we're talking about God's sovereignty

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Mm -hmm. That's why it should be God first God first God first and and what was wrong with the people send the way they put it said that Let's go back to the other one real quick.

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Yeah people sin which separates all from fellowship with God therefore Because man sinned they're saying therefore a divine provision

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Became necessary. Now, what was our argument against that the way? Well, so if you look at what he's trying to get at you look at what he's trying to get at is that we're separated

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Because we sin so personal sin So, you know, so a child isn't separated

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He isn't born separated from God because it hasn't sand but once it sins it's separated from God This you see what

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I'm saying? And so he's not looking at the fact that that we are born in Adam Unable to please

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God we are born with a sin nature. So we're not saying that a child is born You know right out the womb

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Sinning like that's not what we're we're trying to say But they are separated in the sense that they are born with a sin nature

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Inherited the sin nature of Adam as goes the king so goes the kingdom Adams and Adams fall all men fell in Adam Say that yeah federal headship, right?

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And so he's trying to say that we're separated because of our own personal sin and we're saying no we're separated

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Because of Adams sin he brought sin and death into the world

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Right, so anybody born of natural so anybody born of natural generation from the time of Adam to this point even now today

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Has inherited Adams sin guilt Just at the moment of conception positionally

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Positionally, we are separated from God. Would you agree with that Braden? Yep, that's absolutely right and we did talk about last week one thing that you did say

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Tom That I appreciate is that the the fall happened because of the cross not the other way around it's not like yeah

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Ross happened because of the fall the the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus Christ was not plan

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B It's always been plan a and so in this original point right here.

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What's there's people sin It's almost making it seem that well, Jesus was the second plan, which is not the case

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He did look at Romans 512 we looked at Romans 6 23, I believe we even went into Hebrews 9 22 if I can recall from last week

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Isaiah 59 2 it was that the one that was just why is that in there? There's just a complete I think what they were trying to insert in that text was not according to the context of Isaiah They read it real quick.

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No, no, it was yeah Go ahead. It was according to Israel like it has nothing, you know

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Because you have to you have to think about it. God has a kind of covenant Relations.

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Excuse me a relationship. What was it 59? 59 to yep, 59 to a 59 to yeah, so God has a is in covenant with Israel He's not in covenant with the

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Palestine's is not in covenant with all the Jebusites and all the other eyes okay, 59 to yes, but your iniquities have made a separation between you and I I I Mean between you and you and your

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God and your sins have hidden Excuse me, and your sins have hidden his face from you so that he does not hear

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Again, this is directly speaking to Israel. That's the historical context as Well as the biblical context right where Isaiah is is writing this calling the

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Israelites to repentance That's right Because they turn they did what was right in their own eyes according to judges, right?

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They had they were supposed to live a certain way. They turned their back on God They went after idols and what happened they fell into sin.

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And so there was oppression there was sin There was guilt because they sinned but that's not that's not the reason why we stand separated from God The reason is because we are by nature dead in our trespasses and sins

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Now, let's look at it this way. So let's say Let's say I fell into sin. I don't want to put that on anybody else

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Let's say I fell into sin. This word can be for me, right?

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So if I fell into sin I can read here and say behold the Lord's hand is not short that he cannot save or his ear dull that he cannot

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Hear like all I have to do right here as a saved person who is swimming in my sin

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It's to call them thumbs up. It's a call out to God and ask for forgiveness, right?

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First John chapter 1 I think it's verse 8, right? It talks about Verse 9, excuse me

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It it talks about confessing our sins and he will forgive us right and so and then right here because of my iniquities and I'm Living in sin it says but your iniquities have made a separation between you and your

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God Right, and so this is a you know for a believer we can say yes and amen

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This is you know, we can we can take a clear application from that and apply it to our lives But we cannot apply this to the

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Jebusites That's right back then nor can we apply it to the heathen of today

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Hallelujah Good stuff. So what we're looking at right now is six

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Bible verses that fit into What the definition of P in is in our in our points here, we're taking back the word provide

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We're taking back the word provide what you gonna do you late? What you gonna do breath? We're taking it back.

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How do you like man? I don't know I Don't know if we want to read each one of these these

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Bible verses that we got up here or what let's just you know That's the audience y 'all want us to go through all the

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Bible verses. I mean, there's a lot of them I think we do need to go through one somebody somebody holler

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But I do want to go through Ephesians and this is talking about this is talking about the planets

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Ephesians 1 4 do it, right? All right And says just as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world

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That we would be holy and blameless before him in love Mmm, he chose us in other words

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Like you had said Braden like we had said last week that the plan of redemption Was a covenant in the

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Godhead that he planned before the foundations of the world He has names that are written in the

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Lamb's Book of Life before the foundation of the world And if your name is written in that Lamb's Book of Life, which he chose us in him before the foundation of the world

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That's when the plan started. It was an eternal plan That's right, yeah,

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I'm sure love that sweet covenant theology Isaiah 46 9 through 10 Pushback on what they would say.

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Oh, yeah, go ahead This is speaking to the Apostles only This is something that I've heard them say

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So he's saying the same way that I can take application from that Isaiah passage if I was you know, if I had fallen into sin as a

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Christian and I'm And there's a separation with my relationship with God, so it's not that I'm not a

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Christian but I because of my sin I have My sins have hidden his face from me, right?

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Yeah Okay Hold on, but that's how you can apply this because he's speaking.

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Yes. He's speaking to his the Apostles who is writing this to Believers, right.

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So let's just say he's just speaking to his Apostles, which I don't think that's the case All right.

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He's not. Yeah But I'm just saying let's let's just give them that bone for a second in the same way that I can apply

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Isaiah 59 1 & 2 to my life as a believer.

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I can also apply What this is saying as a believer if that was the case

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I can make direct application to us However, that is not the case

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Paul is writing a letter to the Ephesians Church and they're taking direct application that it's speaking to them

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Verse 1 it says to the Saints who are Ephesus. Yes faithful in Christ like And this not only that but guess what the great unity is across all 66 books of the

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Bible It always describes the same means of salvation and that is in Jesus Christ. We have been predestined and conformed to him justified

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Sanctified and eventually glorified that's exactly what the next scriptural rehearsal here is Romans 8 29 30, which is the golden chain of redemption

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Here in Ephesians, you see the God Father God our Father Choosing us predestinating us

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According to his goodness. Yeah in Christ Jesus adoption how Adoption right there faith in Christ, right?

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We're we're we're made a part of the family of God To the That's right

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In him we have redemption through the blood the forgiveness of transgressions according to the riches of his grace verse 7

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Which he caused to abound to us I'm pretty sure that one's talking about God right there.

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Oh, okay. It went on me No, it wasn't it was all Soledad Gloria, right?

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This you have to butcher this text beyond recognition to be able to come away with provisionism

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Or late as an excuse me. Yeah, don't you ever misname it? Okay my fault

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Well, I do my I must say I there is a chicken all right, okay, it's the late

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Isaiah Isaiah I Love our brothers and sisters in Christ that are provisionist.

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Y 'all y 'all are wrong on your soteriology. I love you Yeah, but you're wrong on it.

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I mean when Layton came to the conference we had good fellowship And Layton knows

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Listen, I guarantee you Layton can watch this and laugh Good, right because Layton hung out with us and he saw us making fun of each other

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Alright That's just how them guys are and That is like if you want to be our friend, you better be tough

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Okay Cuz there I grew up in the trailer park and like my song says there's no safe places in a place when your place is

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On a hitch, okay We don't play like that, you know, even Layton He kind of made he kind of had a big dig on on Kevin Hay in the conference because he told him

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Did I look like his dad? That's right, and Greg Moore was going man don't tell don't tell your wife

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Kevin So Isaiah 46 9 through 10 is that it's

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God speaking to Israel that that I Have I have predestined these things to occur so that you may know that I am the one and only

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God There's none before nor after so God's sovereignty is a thing that separates him from other from all the false gods of course the road the golden chain of redemption here in Romans 8 acts 4 is

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Peter giving a sermon and he's saying the The people the Pontius Pilate the people of Israel the

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Gentiles all those that were against Christ Jesus It was according to God's predetermined plan to crucify

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Jesus Christ Genesis 50 20 the instant with Joseph being sold into slavery in there

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It says that you meant it to evil against me But God meant it for good not that God used it for good

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But God meant it for good the same exact actually being sold into slavery meant Rc spro has a teaching on that and so does dr.

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White, but I don't think they go back far enough Burneth bard. How you say it?

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Oh Far away. Yes So they'll take it and they'll put it like they'll begin the story like they'll start it there

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But they'll take it to where Joseph was actually sewed into slavery. I Think we do better if we take it to her.

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It's actually first mentioned and that is Genesis chapter 15 So in Genesis chapter 15

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In verse 13, it says this so so this is when God had put

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Abraham asleep after he Split open the the animals and he goes to walk through them verse 13 it says

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Then the Lord said to Abram No for certain that your offsprings will be sojourners in the land

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That is not theirs and will be servants there and they will be afflicted for 400 years

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But I will bring judgment on the nation that they serve and afterwards they shall come out with great possessions

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All right, so how did all that how did

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God in his sovereignty Caused that to happen

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Well, Joseph was sold and yeah hardens First of all Joseph had to be sold into slavery

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By his brothers and then his brother famine has to come which causes his brothers to go to Egypt seeking grain

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That's right. Joseph has to forgives it to give his brothers and then the Israelite people are welcomed in Egypt in the land of Gosheh Right, and then

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Joseph dies and there comes a Pharaoh who knows not Joseph so on and so forth All right, so it's all

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Yeah, yeah that whole incident is a prophecy given to Abraham a

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Prophecy given to Abraham and so what what and so when he says God meant for good

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That's pointing us back to Genesis chapter 15 beginning in verse 13 and it tells you how he means it for good

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It's a part of that covenant promise. They will come out with great possessions That's right Joe Joe 42 to no purpose of yours can be thwarted

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The purpose that Job is speaking about in there is the situation that he's in and it's dire seven kids seven sons three daughters boils from head to toe

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He's saying that that's the purpose of God and it cannot be thwarted remarkable faith from Job in there

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So that's the context quick words from each one of them without opening up each one

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Good stuff Regeneration, should we see what? You know this one

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Let's see what they first They first put responsible that is everyone is able to respond

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I just want to throw up everyone is able to respond to God's appeal for reconciliation

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Because a divine provision will be heard and understood And never mind that you're dead in your trespasses and sins slaves of the devil and it's also the message is foolishness

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You can respond. Oh, yeah, you can Just not positive It's right.

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Yeah, what's it consistent with your nature and not only that it kills Ephesians chapter 1 for that We just read that he chose particular people, you know

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He's making salvation possible to everyone here that the father chose someone but now he's gonna send his son to make salvation possible for Entirely different group other than all you didn't know that the father chose a people but the son died for a different people and the

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Holy Spirit just doesn't know who to apply the purpose to You didn't read that right? Yeah, it's all

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Jeff it's up to you It's in Yeah So obviously

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We Said this last week if it if responsible means that we are responsible for our sin

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I would say amen to that but that is not the way that they take this responsible So this is that that we everyone has the ability to respond

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Positively to the gospel call in their nature outside of the gut of outside of God regenerating them which

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Yeah, like I said want to throw up what we put Regeneration Responsible we put regeneration it says in here regeneration is the new birth

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Yep, yeah. All right. Oh, well, I see granite

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Let's go back just a little bit is that close enough That'll work. Okay Regeneration is the new birth by the

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Holy Spirit where grace faith and the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit is granted to the elect of God Outside of this new birth we remain dead in our sins and enemies to God therefore regeneration precedes faith, that's right, you know, you know

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That's just what the Bible does concern in salvation It gives us a word picture like that's the analogy of scripture concern in salvation is the new birth and This was the diverse so in Colossians chapter 3 verse 4 and 5 this is the one that I was pointing at in that in that debate that I had

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Hold on Cautions, excuse me to 13

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No No, no, I'm sorry not Colossians. Forgive me Timmitt. I mean Titus.

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I can't even remember my son's name You know, yeah Colossians is great too.

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That's not what I was talking about. So I was talking about the word regeneration is found

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Yeah, we'll get there the word regeneration is found in Titus chapter 3 and beginning in verse 4 and we'll go to verse 5 it says but when the kindness

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Now when the goodness and kindness of our God and Savior appeared and we would all have to agree this is first century

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This is his first coming He saved us not because of works done by us in Righteousness, but according to his own mercy and here's how he does it by the washing of Regeneration and renewal of the

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Holy Spirit and my argument here had to do with that word Regeneration which is the

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Greek word Pauline gonna see a Pauline means Again and gonna see a means birth.

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So if you just read it how it is, it's again birth, but it's translated Born again or birth again.

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And so he saves us through a new birth and and Jesus Speaks about this like this is when it comes to salvation how a person is saved.

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It's it. That's the analogy It's a new birth and ladies and gentlemen, none of us had anything to do with our first birth

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Therefore we have nothing to do with our second birth

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Amen That's right. That's the analogy that he does the picture that the analogy of Scripture, right?

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It's it's right. That's just how it's laid out And to tie that in I think you also have first Peter 1 3 and it says this blessed

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Be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ who according to his great mercy has caused us to be born again

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To a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead And it says his great mercy according to his mercy has caused us to be born again

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I'm out. You didn't do it Brayden. You didn't do it. I'm out not according to my faith Not according to my endurance not according to what

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I willed Yeah, no, this was didn't have anything to do with you. Yeah, it sounds like Sovereign He's more sovereign than that, okay

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Yeah Again ladies and gentlemen like if you

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They talk about That they're holding to Scripture Right.

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And again, listen, we we we really do care about Layton. Like I think he's a good guy I enjoyed hanging out with him.

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Hope I get to hang out with him again But this is nonsense when it comes to verse.

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What does he do with that verse that he has caused us to be born again? I don't

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I don't understand. What's his argument there? Well, I'm hoping that they'll watch some of the stuff that we're doing and we're really like putting the the foot on the pedal when

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It comes to Pauline Geneseo that Greek word read for read regeneration And I hope they make a response because I'm like listen,

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I've been wanting to go to watch a comedy for a while like please make a response because I you have to butcher you have to Literally remove it from the text.

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It cannot mean anything else Right or or just like you said or they have to make this mean something other than it says

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Way far off basis the butchering the text. Yeah well,

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I Mean you guys already hit on the major ones on there Yeah, I mean We want provision it we want lateness to see this we want

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Christianity and whole to see this so please be sharing this kind of videos because that's how they end up seeing these things Yeah, so in my debate,

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I don't go back over to the verses. Yeah So in my debate if you haven't watched it, please go watch it.

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It's on the gospel truth Network I hit John 3 which it also John 5 Titus 3 5

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But I use 4 and 5 and Ezekiel 36 26 or 27 now. I would have loved to use more

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I had to pick and choose right now. We only had a Short time to get everything out

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However However Yeah, so if you go you'll listen to me explain

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Ezekiel 36 26 to 27 and So what's his name?

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Someone Jason so when it comes to that Titus 3 5 he made a video and he was willing and he asked in there

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He was wanting to know if I would be willing to debate Titus 3 5 using all of Titus at in the context and if you go to his

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Facebook page living Christian You'll see I put in there Yes, like I wanted to give a quote from a tombstone, you know, like I'm your huckleberry

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That's just my kind of Whatever, you know like but but I did accept it and he hasn't responded back to it

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So I think he was saying that thinking I wouldn't watch the video I mean

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Yeah, like I I know the book of Titus like I'm not trying to You know do wrong.

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So so somebody just asked where can they find this URL? I'm gonna post it on my Facebook You can find it there.

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I'm sure these guys will share it. I'll probably Jeffrey Jeffrey Rice and Tom Shepard Please share it get it out there.

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Let's let's let's light the the The fire underneath the lateness, but hopefully hopefully they reformed to biblical doctrine

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All right, you guys want to read the next one? Okay. What do we got? We got original sin. Yeah.

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Do you guys want to see what the one was before? Yeah That sounds like a country song

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I Forgot that Jesus said that wide is the way and open is the door that leads into salvation.

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I forgot that verse It's wide open. All you got to do is jump in the water's fine.

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It's like I'm pretty sure that Jesus said narrow is the way

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He calls himself the door and then he says only to me that the door the gatekeeper

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Opens and I call my sheep out And that excludes those that try to climb up another way the dogs

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The false shepherds those the robbers is what it says in John or the other sheep that are also in the sheep pen who are not

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Yes Guess guess what Jesus does he says I call them out that no

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Salvation is not an open door Jesus is the door and he died for the elect. It's not an open door

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Yeah, well, but wait a minute Braden it says right here for anyone to enter through faith

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Just muster up and that pull yourself up by your leg straps and muster up some faith over here

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And and you could go right into his open arms. He's just hoping that you will come

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Doesn't that just fly in the face of what the verse that you read before Tom like He caused us according to his mercy, it's not

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It's not that we caused God to show favor to us according to our faith.

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We placed in him That's not how this works as a matter of fact And let me go there real quick acts 1348 and we got to read this because I this is just this is the killer

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Yeah for them right here, which one? and it 1348

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And it says and when the Gentiles heard this they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the

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Lord and As many as had been appointed to eternal life Believed in other words if God doesn't appoint a person to eternal life

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How can you come if he is not chosen that person? How can that person possibly come another way?

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The door is not wide open just like you said One of the arguments that he makes and I might be saying it wrong

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But he's saying are you saying that God unilaterally chooses those who are going to be saved and and those who are not?

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What is a lot of battery as as as if as if randomly just willy -nilly going grabbing a few

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Is that what he means by that? Well, I think I really don't know exactly what he is

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Is articulating But that's what I get from it so so the fact that The fact that he'd shoot we're dead in our sins

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We our condition is dead in our sins and the fact that he decides to show mercy on any

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Is is is all grace, you know And so if God chooses

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God chooses to choose a people group for his own possession I don't know why he would choose me.

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There's no reason why he would choose me. I know you guys There's no reason why he would choose you guys.

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All right, watch him out. Yeah And but the thing is is that it's all grace

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I have no clue There's no reason why that I could even fathom why he would want to choose a person a person who has been rebelled

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You know shaking my fists against him and living the life that in my past life that I lived, you know

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But my condition was dead So whatever his purpose is praise God, I'm not gonna ask

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I'm not gonna pretend to know the mind of God To ask him why he chose me. He did it to show his glory

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That's that's all I could think of and so we should just praise him and thank him for that. I Have no idea why he chose me

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Amen, if God just if God just saved one person let alone the thousands upon thousands upon thousands that he has saved

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God would still be worthy of eternal praise for his mercy Just one just one and being the creator

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Having absolute power. Does he not get to set the terms? To get to choose who he decides to choose

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Absolutely. Yeah absolutely, I Mike my co -elder and this and he even says it that the the analogy is

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So much far limited to the extent of the distance between God and man it would be like us playing with Legos and having a

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Lego set and The Legos are upset that we're playing with one more than another or that one was the main

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Character in our little Lego game that we're having right that that's Legos don't get to do that to those that are playing with them or those that are creating them

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Right like God and I use the Lego term because this co -elder he helps with the youth ministry and so it connects with the kids and so my little boy inside right now is playing with Legos and God is so much infinitely greater than my son is to those

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Legos Right, and the fact that he saves any of us and it's all part of his plan

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Praise praise be to God And let me read this verse that Michelle just put up.

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Yeah, so Luke 13 Verse 23. Yes started 23 and some and someone said to him

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Lord Will those who are saved be few and he said to them verse 24

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Jesus speaking strive to enter through the narrow door

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For many I tell you will seek to enter And will not be able

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Hmm What do you think they're seeking So I'm thinking here that they will seek to enter they will seek to be right with God But they're not going to go through the method and the means which

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God has determined to save them In other words, they're gonna be seeking wrongly They're gonna be trusting and not in the person work of Christ alone for eternal life to him from the wash you of your sins

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And to have his imputed his righteousness put on our account But they're probably depending and seeking to be right with God another way.

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What could that be? Example LDS is a perfect example of that.

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Think about all the earnest LDS people out there You think that they are doing their absolute best to obey and follow

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God yet? They think that they will be rewarded based off their own efforts of what they are doing

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So they're trusting in their own righteousness trusting in their own works their own righteousness Yeah, if you don't mind me pissing some people off that's fine with you

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Here we go. Here we go Right, like like Noah's toe to build an ark for him and seven other people including animals

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That's right. He is he's told that it's going to be him his wife his three sons and their wives

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Yeah, right all right, and Believe me when

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I tell you that as you know Probably as the the water Starts to come and the boat starts rocking you hear the knocking.

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Let us right and Guess what? They strive to enter and we're not able

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God closed the door that that ark was only meant for eight people and a lot of people will say well

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Well, Noah was a preacher of righteousness Yeah, you better believe it every swing of that hammer is preaching

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Christ every slab of that that that tar getting onto that that that that boat is

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Preaching Christ never once will you may convince me that Manoah walked around?

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Preaching that a flood was coming. He said well Jeff. How do you say that Matthew chapter 24 verse 36?

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But concerning that day and hour no one knows not even the angels of heaven nor the

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Sun But the father only for as it was in the days of Noah So will it be in the coming of the

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Son of Man for as in the days of Noah? As in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking marrying and given in marriage

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Until the day when Noah entered the ark and they were unaware

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Until the flood came and swept him all the way So will it be the coming of the

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Son of Man? Yeah, they were unaware but best believe with every swing of that hammer

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Noah with his actions is preaching Christ Yeah, I Mentioned that in my sermon that I gave at the white

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Calvinism conference, right? It was designed purposely God gave

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Noah didn't just build an ark He built it according to God's design That he built a mark and it was only built for the eight that got to pass safely through the waters

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Which is totally typological. Yeah, why would I have? Why would he build it for for eight and God tells him who's going to enter in go back to Genesis?

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It tells them who it is. It's going to enter in and then go out and invite people to come in Guess guess guess why they were invited in to because Noah as the federal head of these eight or seven people

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It says that that they were Included in this covenant because of the faith the righteousness that Noah had found in the eyes of the

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Lord. So again, I'm perfect perfect Typology to what we have in Christ.

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We Are sinful and fallen but through our mediator of the new covenant our federal head

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Jesus Christ We are reckoned with righteousness because of what he is fulfilled and he is the ark of our salvation

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And we are able to safely pass through the wrath of God because he took it for us. Yeah Yeah, I'm sorry the door is shut

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It's not open. It opens for the the Shepherd Yeah.

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Well, let's see what we put we put Oh for original sin because According to Latinism they just say people sin.

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We felt like it needed to be fine -tuned a little bit more Yeah, somebody want to read that Sure says

01:00:05

Adam as our federal head sinned against God by breaking his covenant Which incurred which incurred death for all those he?

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Represented all are born dead and sin and wholly defiled in all the faculties and parts of the soul and body

01:00:24

Hmm So Adam as our federal head sinned against God So goes the kingdom or what?

01:00:35

As goes the king so goes Right as goes the federal head.

01:00:40

So go the people I bet my congregation hears that in their sleep So You want to you want to define federal head again

01:00:55

How what does it mean to be a federal head so everyone understands a federal head our representative?

01:01:02

Yeah, so it's that one person represents the whole so That's that's the the quick just Just footnote version of it and a lot of people are opposed to it because they're like well

01:01:15

I don't I want I don't want to be held responsible for Adam sins, right? But first of all, the

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Bible says that that Death death came in through Adam. So death affects everybody and that's through Adam so regardless if you like it or not, that's the case and second of all,

01:01:31

I love federal headship because If it wasn't for it Christ Jesus is my new federal head

01:01:38

There is the one that I am undeserving of he represented me upon the cross and took my wrath

01:01:45

To deny the headship of Adam is to deny the headship of Christ.

01:01:51

That's right. Absolutely. That is beautiful Is that not I mean, that's the beautiful part of the

01:01:56

New Covenant Absolutely It really is

01:02:03

Everybody That's right. Amen. The second part of this so so as Adam because he represents all mankind so the all that he represents is is everybody

01:02:17

Exception everybody without exception good good point. They're not without distinction without exception

01:02:23

He incurs death for all those that he represented and Of that all are born dead in sin and wholly defiled defiled in all the faculties and parts and Parts of soul and body that comes verbatim from the 1689

01:02:40

I'm sure it said it exactly the same way in the West Minister in the Savoy But that's where that last sentence comes from, right?

01:02:47

So for that proof text Romans 310 no one is righteous

01:02:52

No Not one Then tells us of all the ways that we sin against God and that we fall short of the glory of God and that the law Was given to hold everybody accountable before God Ephesians 2 3 that's a that's a text that I think we should all know off the top of our head.

01:03:05

Yeah. Mm -hmm Genesis 33 Genesis 3 17 obviously that's speaking of the fall itself

01:03:13

That's the the part where God is giving a curse unto man so again, we suffer those curses that Adam received a

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Ephesians 2 again as we're dead in our sins and trespasses Romans 5 we're born children

01:03:33

Clear as day therefore just through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin and so death spread to all men

01:03:43

Because all sin, that's right. Hey, don't don't don't judge me, bro I Be mean being main again

01:03:56

Me you guys are judgmental. We're meanies. Yeah 1522 says yeah, first Corinthians 1522 says for as an

01:04:06

Adam all die. So also in Christ shall all be made alive Yeah, so again federal headship.

01:04:16

Oh No, man, it seems like Whitney seems like you know people sin. I mean, yeah All right doesn't open door

01:04:28

Yeah, I don't I? Do we even need to read the rest of these we probably should We're doing a show we're doing this we're doing a show

01:04:37

All right, we're at the hour mark. Are you able to stay? Let's get through it guys. My computer is

01:04:45

Is that 31 % right now? So anyway, so we're on What did

01:04:51

I click? Clicked over too many times. So let's just see what they got for V. We'll be quick. They put vicarious atonement so they're defining this as is the divine provision given of sufficient value for the sins of the whole world and Provides a way for anyone to be saved on the basis of Christ shed blood.

01:05:11

So We did we did hammer in pretty big time on this last week

01:05:17

Is there anybody in hell for whom Christ died

01:05:23

Braden just let you know, okay. No, let's just leave it. Otherwise. Otherwise if it was right

01:05:30

Christ died needlessly for that person. So the blood of Christ is being trampled upon It's not powerful enough to save that person and God is in just because he's giving out double payment for the person on the cross

01:05:43

Jesus and the person that is in hell the individual God would not be in just in those ways

01:05:49

Right Yeah So let's go back to let's fix this.

01:05:55

Let's fix it. Wait a second We're gonna talk about this down here indeed to directly fix it.

01:06:02

But what did we put for V? Jeff you want to read this one? I can't see it good enough man.

01:06:08

I mean I can see it But it's it's it's not new eyes Vic. It says victory in Christ alone

01:06:15

I'm having to look through my iPad. So it's a lot Normal, I got you.

01:06:21

I got it. You got it. Go ahead. Go ahead. You're already on it through Jesus's righteous life substitutionary death and Triumph over the grave all those whom he represents are brought into coven into a covenant of grace because regeneration precedes faith

01:06:39

We don't boast of ourselves But in the Lord alone Amen Look I know

01:06:50

I'm the one that wrote these but it sounds really good Let's just let's give myself a round of applause right now

01:07:05

Yeah, a little pat on the back for sure I like clauses read the collagens to 14 to 15 for proof texts

01:07:12

You want to read that one? Yeah, I did believe this is something that we looked at last last week Yeah And by the way, we're not cherry -picking verses where this is this all fits go go read it in context it all fits

01:07:35

And then for any of my provisionist friends out there that want to debate any one of these verses

01:07:41

Yeah, like bring it what we right here

01:07:48

Regulators Colossians would you say

01:07:54

Colossians 2? Yeah Which that is the text that the mauler guy that we talked with just well that doesn't mean literally it didn't literally

01:08:08

Rise it's awful First 13 and you were dead and then when your trespasses and uncircumcision of your flesh

01:08:16

Yeah, you heard me dead God Made alive together with him.

01:08:22

Here's how he did it Having forgiven us of our trespasses. That's where the grace comes in.

01:08:28

Ladies and gentlemen, this is Ephesians chapter I mean, excuse me. This is Ezekiel 36 25

01:08:34

By counseling the record of death that stood against us with its legal demands

01:08:40

This talking about that that that record of debt he set aside nailing it to the cross

01:08:50

Amen, he disarmed the rulers and authorities by putting them to open shame

01:08:56

How did he put him double shame by trying on putting over them in him?

01:09:02

Then him is Christ, right? So as they were he triumphant over them by what they were doing to Christ Nailing him to the cross

01:09:15

Jeff what real quick you said that they were dead. What was the dead mean? so I Thought it was a sickness is what yeah, so according to the text.

01:09:30

So like if you look at Ephesians chapter two Dead is someone who is who is following after the

01:09:39

Prince in the power of the air Doing carrying out the desires of their flesh in their mind

01:09:45

And that means that they are by nature children of wrath. So that would be the definition of dead here slate slaves to sin

01:09:52

Slaves to sin and I would say that second Timothy tells you why second Timothy beginning in verse 23

01:10:00

I think it is where it talks. It tells us that we have been captured by the devil to do his will

01:10:08

Yeah, so you ever seen those so many Sam shows, right? Well, he's chasing the bunny and he sticks his gun into a hoe and all of a sudden the barrel could like the it's manipulated

01:10:19

And it's pointed right back at him. And so he shoots the gun and shoots himself That's what this verse in Colossians.

01:10:26

That's what I say, right that as as they're Nailing him to the cross. They thinking that they finally got rid of this this guy that does good deeds

01:10:38

They're actually Shooting themselves. They're actually there. They're actually he he's bringing about the best deed

01:10:48

In that moment, I like writing this down Yosemite All right, you guys want to go to the next one

01:11:05

So illuminating grace Illuminating grace. Yeah, so that's what they got right here illuminating.

01:11:11

Grace is the divine provision offered sufficiently to all and Provides clearly revealed truth so that all can know and respond in faith

01:11:20

And I think he is a liar right there because if he doesn't mean an all without obsession All without exception that is a total lie

01:11:31

Did you just say all without obsession, yeah Listen man

01:11:39

I'm from the south and and I'm a street kid and it's late. Okay So yeah, so we touched on this one a lot last week too, right?

01:11:50

There are people right now that are dying that has a knowledge of God because of creation But they have no knowledge of the

01:11:56

Trinity. They have no knowledge that Jesus died for them I'm sorry, there is not a divine provision

01:12:04

Offered to everyone that prove that clearly provides The revealed truth of Jesus Christ.

01:12:11

There just isn't how is it revealed Braden? Tell him It's through the ordinary means of grace.

01:12:16

Somebody needs to be able to preach the gospel They hear the gospel and then the Holy Spirit does the work on that through special revelation went through the scriptures

01:12:24

Yeah, yeah, the the bad part and we talked about this last week. Is that that and yes hyper

01:12:30

Calvinism. Let's reject it Let's deny it. I agree wrong Correct.

01:12:36

However, this teaches a hyper Calvinism view of evangelism which is well if everybody can respond equally without exception and Guess what?

01:12:50

Do I need to get out and preach? No, they got it Everyone already has it.

01:12:56

There's no need to go out and pray It's why that falls under the same condemnation for a hyper Calvinist.

01:13:02

That's right It isn't latent isn't so latent himself as an evangelist yet. I don't understand how he can't how he can't see the error in this

01:13:10

Yeah, I'm sorry It removes all the responsibility of the church being the church and and going about with the

01:13:16

Great Commission and preaching the gospel I mean really Braden. I mean you just nailed it on the head right there I mean

01:13:21

Layton, are you aren't I mean if this is the case You're a hyper Calvinist. You're a hyper

01:13:28

Calvinist. It's the same rule right here There's there's no reason to go and preach if God is just if he's revealed it to everybody already without scripture

01:13:35

Why why do we do missions? Why are there missions? Yeah, why are we trying to go to unread?

01:13:41

Why do we call them unreached people? Yeah Unreached forever.

01:13:50

Yeah. Sorry Also, it's 33 12 through 30. Let me just say this is a quote from a lie

01:13:57

He you shouldn't be looking at a lie who to get your theology. You should look at God's response where he proclaims that he is sovereign

01:14:06

Job 38 to 42 is where we should be reading. You know, well only if someone could fix this

01:14:13

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh wait my fault. Oh Guys I got to read this one because this is something that I think

01:14:22

We as believers just need to just be very clear on Infallibility of Scripture.

01:14:28

So so they said are illuminating grace for their eye. We're saying infallibility of Scripture. What does that mean?

01:14:34

Scripture is God -breathed as the only sufficient rule of all saving knowledge faith and obedience

01:14:41

It has sufficiently revealed the character of God who is triune eternal and immutable

01:14:48

Believers need not and I'll say that again believers need not to make excuse for what

01:14:55

God has spoken so Mmm, do I need to make excuse?

01:15:01

for this right up here Absolutely, not. Nope. If God has spoken that which guess what?

01:15:08

He kind of has yeah, let's I'll just say you can read these verses or read all 66 books of the

01:15:15

Bible It's it's really good stuff. It all is in there. Yeah, we need not fill the need to To make an excuse for the way that God describes himself.

01:15:24

It is sufficiently revealed God and his character and You need to stop trying to fit your philosophy your vain philosophies and myths into the

01:15:33

Word of God Amen That's good stuff, man

01:15:40

These are that was the argument I made in my debate, you know concerning these things that we do not look outside of Scripture when it comes to Not, you know, like everyone knows there's a

01:15:55

God because of creation, right? general revelation But the only way to know this

01:16:02

God, right, you know to know him personally It's the special revelation and the only way to truly know him is to the revelation given to us by Jesus Christ Like this is

01:16:13

John John chapter John chapter 1 verse 18 All right.

01:16:19

Let me read that real quick John chapter 1 verse 18 It says no one has ever seen

01:16:29

God Speaking of the Father here the only God speaking of the

01:16:34

Son who is at the Father's side has made him known and then you go to John chapter 17 verse 3 says and this is eternal life that Jesus speaking that they may know you the only true

01:16:48

God and Jesus Christ whom you have since first John Chapter 2 begin.

01:16:54

I think it's first 22 or 23 talks about if you do not have the Son You do not have the

01:17:00

Father You cannot separate the two the only way to know who the Father is Truly is through the

01:17:08

Son and I would argue that those in the utmost and most for the most part The Old Testament doesn't true

01:17:14

Reveal God in his true form until we have the revelation of Jesus Christ, right?

01:17:20

He truly reveals him in a unique way God as Father Son and Holy Spirit It does progressively reveal him in a promise.

01:17:31

However in right in our old covenant Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah as promised but but yeah, but Yes, yeah

01:17:43

To read the old covenant outside of the new covenant. I would still say that that it's not it's not crystal clear

01:17:51

Right because like like as you get further into the covenants, it becomes more clear

01:17:56

That's right. And by the time you get to the New Covenant, it's crystal clear. That's right

01:18:03

Beautiful, I just I just Yep, I I'm just really happy you guys are talking about the

01:18:09

Old Testament New Testament just the continuity there I just now I'm seeing on on Facebook. Jason Bretta just posted something regarding His view of the book of Romans that he's coming out with this video

01:18:21

It up he's saying that that That he misunderstood these three chapters in the book of Romans.

01:18:30

He doesn't say in the video First for several years So he's alluding to back when he was Calvinist right or that he was claiming to be a

01:18:36

Calvinist and he's saying that in these three Chapters of Romans guess what? There's a distinction of Jew and Gentile Where's he going?

01:18:46

Is he going to 9 10 11? I don't know what chapters but I'm sure it's the ones that you debated that James White with If you don't understand what he's doing

01:18:55

So he says he's came across an ambiguous antecedent and that's why I said in that debate you like antecedents

01:19:02

So Romans chapter 1 verse 13 and what he's trying to lay out here.

01:19:08

Is that from Romans chapter? 1 I think he's going to through 11 is solely speaking about the

01:19:17

Jews So this is information given to the Jews about the Jews and nothing but the Jews. So help me

01:19:22

God And that's just bad. It's just well, yeah bad theology. It's it's bad exegesis

01:19:32

Yeah, yeah, yeah along with all those other cults, oh

01:19:40

Forgive me I'm sorry, you know I did my Co -pastor told me

01:19:46

I do not have a filter You're right, I don't sometimes wish you did

01:19:58

So, okay, so just going through this continually, right they put destroyed again

01:20:04

This was something this is a building up argument that they're trying to make in their latinism chart here Because again, we talked about this last week destroyed for unbelief and resisting the

01:20:14

Holy Spirit's drawing to God's mercy Mercy will be the divine provision of justice.

01:20:19

So several things going on there First of all, it's saying that we're not being destroyed for our sin, but unbelief

01:20:26

Right, so that's wrong right there. Okay, so I can see it.

01:20:31

Yep. It's a little closer and then and Then not only that but it's saying that we can stay the hand of God that we can triumph over God's Choice over God's call over God's moving for us to come to him.

01:20:50

We can be more powerful than that, right? Also, it goes to what you were talking about earlier with them being hyper

01:20:58

Calvinist. Yes, because look at it Your arrows in my way.

01:21:03

I can't read it These words are a little bigger than the other one. Could you move your arrow?

01:21:10

for only Yeah for unbelief and resisting the Holy Spirit's draw to God's mercy

01:21:19

Will be divine provision of justice Okay So he's actually so I'm sure he believes that those who are unreached if they die, they're going to go to hell

01:21:30

So is this saying that they deny? The Holy Spirit Yes, they resist the

01:21:37

Holy Spirit and they're going to die not for they're gonna be punished not for their sins, but for Rejecting Jesus whom they have not heard.

01:21:46

How can they hear if no one is sent? right

01:21:54

Listen, your theology has to reach more than it has to be a more than America If your theology doesn't work in China and Africa and all these other

01:22:05

Continents my my dear brother your theology is false Yeah That's right.

01:22:14

That's a Mormon theology right there for the Americans So and then also so for the unbelief in resisting the

01:22:22

Holy Spirit's drawing But yet John 644 says no one

01:22:28

Works here The LSB says can come that word can in the Greek is to be able has the power to personal ability they

01:22:39

Cannot come without The father draws him. So unless unless the father who sent me draws him.

01:22:47

He cannot come. He's not able He cannot there's no opportunity to come. There's no power to come.

01:22:54

There's no personal ability to come We cannot support God's will in any way that's right

01:23:02

Well, so that's a bunch of crap, right Got you some good stuff.

01:23:11

Let's just see it definite atonement Jesus is Christ Sorry, Jesus Came out wrong

01:23:18

Jesus Christ's atoning sacrifice was intentional Effectual and Specifically designed to redeem those who the father predestined to be in the covenant of grace

01:23:31

God does not give double payment wrath for sin

01:23:37

Hey, I just found a problem with your yours your That's messed up.

01:23:42

There's no problem No, no, there's not from a reformed Baptist perspective nor for my Presbyterian brothers

01:23:47

But if you're a Calvinist at Baptist, you just mentioned the words covenant of grace. Oh, yeah

01:23:55

I'm not here to make the Non -reformed Calvinist listen if both of us are trying to be

01:24:01

I'm trying to piss people off. This ain't gonna be good. This is gonna be good Here we go

01:24:09

If Yeah, no, I think it's great. So you don't have a problem with the document. I got you. I got you

01:24:15

No, I don't have a problem. I think I think it's beautiful. I was a little worried there when you said that I was like Oh No So, of course

01:24:22

Good. So, of course we have Hebrews 8 that's the the covenant of grace that we're referring to Colossians 2 14 that the sin was nailed there with Jesus Christ John 10 is speaking about the sheep of God that he lays down his life for the sheep

01:24:36

Isaiah 53 11 that suffering servant text again the golden chain of redemption and then

01:24:43

John 6 39 Which is a text that all the father Gives me I will lose none

01:24:49

All that the father draws I will raise up on the last day So so yes The the drawing work of God will be completed in regeneration and not only that but it will also be secured in the in the death

01:25:01

Of Christ as well there there will be a raising up on the last day of it The whole thing here's where they blow it all the final point.

01:25:12

Yep Don't don't don't they're one -point Calvinist don't don't They're inconsistent

01:25:21

Calvinist, that's what I'm gonna start calling provisionist or lateness is you're just being an inconsistent Calvinist because you like one point

01:25:27

But you can't be a one -pointer But even in this this is not, you know, eternal security and perseverance of the

01:25:33

Saints are not the same thing like I mean I'm glad that he believes this but again, Jason Britta doesn't right he he

01:25:41

He is a an anabaptist and let me tell you I've been studying anabaptist for two weeks.

01:25:47

Don't do it Okay I'm not getting smarter.

01:25:53

Yeah So eternal security is the divine provision that is everlasting for all true believers

01:25:58

So once you believe you cannot lose your salvation is what this is teaching Which I think is just fascinating if belief faith is mustered for myself

01:26:06

Why can't I stop mustering it and then be then therefore destroyed for my unbelief?

01:26:12

This is where well, that's the argument that brought me to Understand that we couldn't lose our salvation because my argument was if I can get myself saved

01:26:23

Yeah, I can get myself unsaved But the moment I understood

01:26:32

That that God is the one who does the saving I mean hence the word saving salvation means to be

01:26:40

Rescued from what right and this being enslaved to the Satan, you know

01:26:47

If he can if he's the one who saves me Then I understand better that that I cannot lose it or if you come to that first point first, right?

01:26:58

I mean the Eternal security, you know, I cannot lose this.

01:27:04

How can I not lose something? I've earned That's right. So Like I am as a rice, you know

01:27:16

Someone who's the rice I did not earn that Yeah I just I just noticed this.

01:27:24

I think this is kind of funny out of all the points This one eternal security is the most late Calvinism, right?

01:27:31

However, it's That's the one truth they have and they don't have much

01:27:46

Let's see how we worded it because I like the way we worded it, okay So there's I and I am gonna bring out so there's been some controversy on this last one the way you worded it

01:27:59

But I'm gonna take up for you here so just so you know, but there is a there is a word in there that people don't like I keep on going.

01:28:12

Oh good Lord. It's hard to say man. Yeah, let me read it Okay without without and then you guys try and pick it up Because the believers salvation was earned in Christ Applied by the

01:28:24

Spirit and ordained by the Father They therefore can't stay the hand of God nor undo what was done for them

01:28:33

The believer can trust in the sovereign hand of God that holds them secure

01:28:39

Look in the first sentence Was earned in Christ earned in Christ earned

01:28:50

So some people don't like that word earned that because the believers salvation was earned now, here's the thing

01:28:55

Here's why I'm gonna take up for for brain now people don't like that word earned Here's the reason why?

01:29:02

Yes, so my wife even said the believer earned nothing, but here's the thing. We are not saved by works

01:29:09

Yes, we are it's just not our work He lived a life we could not live he took the punishment that we deserve

01:29:21

So that's Braden's point right here Is that he is our righteousness the life that he lived that we are required to live but cannot live

01:29:30

He did it in our place So he earned he earned the righteousness and we are in him so we have the righteousness of God Obedience of Christ.

01:29:43

Yeah, that's a possible obedience But but like coming off a definite atonement it spoke about the covenant of grace right the covenant of grace we would say as as Reformed Baptists who ho to a 1689 federalist list that the covenant of grace is the new covenant but also the the new covenant is a covenant of works and It's fulfilled not by our words, but by the works of Christ keeping the

01:30:12

Covenant sitting on the throne of David His active and passive obedience absolutely yeah, so hopefully that You had me worried again because let me worry about I messed something up again

01:30:32

Beautifully done Again, Ephesians 1 through 4 through 5 attacks that we read earlier good and golden chain of redemption ago, of course 2nd

01:30:40

Timothy 1 9 I cannot recall why I put that in there what that says if one of you guys want to read it

01:30:45

Yeah, as many were appointed that day believe or wait. No, what is X 13? Yeah, is that what it is?

01:30:51

We're appointed unto eternal life believed. That's right. And then Romans 9 11 is the the wrath text

01:30:59

I believe and then John 6 44. I will raise you up on the last day 2nd

01:31:06

Timothy 1 9 who saved us and called us to a holy call and not because of all works

01:31:12

But because of his own purpose and grace Which he gave us in Christ Jesus right here before The ages began wait a second

01:31:28

Translation did you just read from You know that that that text right there well that is deep theologically

01:31:43

I mean that will preach for a few weeks maybe What are you sure? Yeah, I can do a month series on it.

01:31:50

Yeah for sure I would say a month and I just go 30 minutes with him to be done

01:31:59

Your mind they're different right we both have four or five Sundays. However, your sermons are 30 minutes and mine are an hour

01:32:06

Oh my gosh So I'd preach for one message that's 30 minutes I Listen it was the it was a

01:32:20

Christmas service and it was God glorifying and it was amazing I had listen.

01:32:25

I just wanted like let me just talk myself up here for a moment I had LDS in the church that day

01:32:33

LDS people in our church and I preached a hard 20 -minute gospel message to them and called him to repent believe it was good.

01:32:40

It was real good Amen. Yeah Anyway, that's my boasting for this morning or this evening

01:32:50

There it is guys, I mean there's part two of the show Listen Layton if you're out there.

01:32:55

Yeah, we'll do a debate with you, you know get your guys We'll go back on Marcus's show and and we can hash it out.

01:33:03

I mean I Mean the truth is on our side. We have the scriptures to prove it everything that we've said here.

01:33:08

We've gone through in context There's there's no there's no doubt that we're right in this and and it's not that we're trying to be right

01:33:16

This is this is what the scripture says. This is what God has revealed to us in his word That's right.

01:33:24

Well We'll take this down real quick I'm gonna stop sharing it too. And then what

01:33:29

I'm gonna do is I'm gonna post it on to the Facebook right now Comment I mean

01:33:37

Do you want me? Well, I was gonna post on my Facebook I can tag you and Tom in it right now if you want Yeah, I mean if you like if you post it in the comments people can find it that way too.

01:33:46

It's it Are if they have of course if they have trouble finding who you are as I'm saying

01:33:53

Yeah, yeah, let me do that here before we get off because that's a good idea. I Think I unfriended

01:33:59

Tom Yeah, I don't blame you What okay But Yeah, so so so listen ladies and gentlemen

01:34:15

Save this meme or whatever it is graphic and And let's get the word out provisionism,

01:34:24

I mean provide like like that's Provide right God has provided and and so You know now not the late in ism one, right?

01:34:36

But the and share this video Yeah Yeah We just trying to make people mad

01:34:48

We're like Lord by God and laugh and listen Listen, I don't get on Facebook like and with my phone or anything like that and text argument, right?

01:34:58

Like I just I I work with my hands. I don't have time for that if you want to Be a tough guy on Facebook Have at it

01:35:09

Video and you know I'm saying I'll talk some stuff on a video, but I'm not gonna waste my time

01:35:16

It is not It is not allowing me to post a photo in the comments right now on the video

01:35:22

Are you trying to post it on YouTube or Facebook Facebook? Yeah, I would just share it on yours and all

01:35:29

I'll copy Sure Share the video on on my page if you would please

01:35:35

I did I didn't I didn't do the video yet, but Okay Post Okay, I got that So hey real quick post the conference for crying out loud

01:35:47

We need to get some people come to the conference and you guys need to come to the conference and listen to these guys preach

01:35:56

And and when I'm on the second day you guys go take a break You know

01:36:01

Tom don't want to be up here and get nervous Yeah So yeah, let me do something.

01:36:06

I'm trying to pull it up boys. Just you wait. Just you wait Some little hands you can't get it

01:36:13

Those are big buttons. He's got a little bit too crazy. They are big buttons Can you imagine his keyboard his hands on that keyboard probably looks huge It's it does is your guys is not oversized

01:36:32

The keyboard I can barely see the keyboard I have to like I do one finger because my fingers don't spread across the whole keyboard

01:36:41

When he touches the letter When he touches the letter he still sees has the half the letter

01:36:48

He'll touch the V and you can see most of the letter Okay, there it is check it out

01:36:55

Okay, what am I checking out? On my page No, I did

01:37:02

Screen sharing it on this screen share. Oh screen Jeff post it. Oh, that's all right.

01:37:08

This is your job admin Come on We got

01:37:16

Greg Moore hosting again that guy's a talker man, he could talk he's also good -looking

01:37:22

He's a very you know now that we don't have Kevin Hayes probably the best -looking guy that But you know, we're gonna miss you

01:37:31

Kevin we we could tell everybody why he's not coming right because he's Yeah, he posted it.

01:37:39

Okay. Yeah, so he's having a baby So you're having a 28 baby

01:37:46

Yeah, so it's gonna be right around the same A lot of kids Kevin hey, god bless you man having nine kids.

01:37:55

Hey, y 'all we're getting short. We're getting Trove Wait to the next one wait to the next one.

01:38:06

This is awesome Calm down wasn't yeah

01:38:19

I mean, what's this guy even saying? Little book in Revelation Chicken hey,

01:38:28

Wesley, how's it going? Sounds like a blasphemer. Yeah We hope you repent and believe in the gospel, yeah,

01:38:40

I Got some mental health issues. Oh, he's got some into it.

01:38:47

Yeah Yeah Oh, it's kind of stuck on there now you got to put

01:38:56

Michelle on there. Okay. Okay here we go Michelle coming in for the win

01:39:10

Alright guys, I gotta get off here. Yeah. Hey, man, good show Yeah Fantastic.

01:39:17

Ladies and gentlemen, let's do some last words Right in god bless go in peace tell the world of the

01:39:24

King Yeah, you guys get out there and go proclaim the gospel everyday lives not only being intentional

01:39:30

But it is somebody comes up in front of you I mean tell them about Christ tell them about the hope that is in us so that we would be reconciled

01:39:37

We never know when we're gonna go. So we need to share the gospel with everybody. We meet be faithful Amen.

01:39:44

Amen Hey, thanks for hanging out with us tonight. Again. We'll be back next time Sunday we're gonna start doing this on Sunday nights still trying to work out a

01:39:54

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