"Projection" in Argumentation, A Marian Spectacle, Connection to the Crusades

Well greens welcome to the dividing line, we're still here in Phoenix. We were just looking at the weather going. Wow. Next week, I don't even see triple digits and in fact My home weather station is talking about lows in the upper 60s.

If you didn't understand what was last time we had lows in the upper 60s. It was May probably somewhere early May. So yeah. Um, you know you you get you get highs down down. What they're talking about.

Well, I got the fan going and stuff. I I might be able to start bringing my coochies in which I know. You know rich is rolling his eyes and he's shaking his head.

But he knows brother you have a strange relationship when it comes to color.

But rich knows that when I start wearing my coochies that means the holidays are coming and so It's like it's like Pumpkin spice or slice or latte? What is it? Do you get it Starbucks? I don't know I don't drink coffee, but pumpkin spice.

Is that something that is? Okay, I'm pumpkin. So that coochies are pumpkin spice for me. So, you know once you all see that even I'm boring that means fall is fall is coming and that now honestly, we will probably see hundreds again, you know the week after or something like that and We've had a hundred and three as the high on on Halloween.

So.

You know.

It it teases us, you know, but hey, I'll take I'll take four or five. It says like four or five days. It's like I'm excited. That's uh, that's good stuff. And the next trip man. I mean There's gonna be some cold mornings that I'm there and I might might find out if the heater actually works.

It's because I don't I'm not I'm not sure we've ever even used the heater in this thing. I don't think I have. Yeah, so well, we'll find out we'll find out soon enough. I Generally only use the a little electric space heaters.

I let it get down to I said I set the heater at about 58. That's when the gas the gas heat turns on. What? What. I'm the only one in there, what does it matter, you know, I Said it were where I want it, you know, and I'll have my coogee on and I'll be nice and warm.

Anyways, welcome to the program. It's I already did a program With brother Wheaton the Christian worldview program already about an hour ago and that'll Probably be posted this This weekend. We'll try to remember to link to that.

I Remember I've talked about this before one of the very first times that I engaged a Roman Catholic in Debating all the stuff that you debate with Roman Catholics. Okay, so I I was raised as an independent fundamentalist Baptist.

I just knew the Catholics were all wrong, but I didn't really didn't know why I probably knew a little bit more than a lot of people did because you know, my dad wasn't that kind of Fundamentalist Baptist, you know, you know, so anyway We this was a little boomer history here.

We had something called Phytonet back in the 1980s and it was a Really Basic version of what eventually became the Internet and you you had what were called echoes and Echo was like there was the open Bible echo.

That was a big one and the Mormon echo.

And.

You could post you could write posts that would be posted into these echoes and then each night The the BBS they was called bulletin board systems the the BBS systems would gather all the posts and They'd send them out and they get distributed to all the other nodes and you'd get mail packages in.

That had new stuff for the Bible echo or Mormon echo or whatever. So you might get a response to something you wrote, you know the next day or you might get something three days later. You know all depended but that was how I first started to engage.

We did it, you know, I'd spent hours writing posts to Mormons on Mormonism that that provided a lot of the impetus and documentation for the books that I ended up writing on that subject and a lot of people really surprised the first two books I wrote were on Roman Catholicism not a Mormonism because we had been dealing with Mormonism for many more years than we that we did anything else.

Yes, sir.

No, I was just gonna remind you don't forget that if you were actually posting in those Rooms on the same machine. Remember we had our own BBS our own node. Yeah, and so if you were posting on the same Machine that other people were posting on you saw your messages immediately.

So the echoes were propagating it throughout the system sharing it through all the different ones. But you know, for instance, you know, if you posted that I posted I would each see each other's right away.

Yeah.

Pretty quickly depending on when you pulled because you'd You'd call in and you would pull the node and if you only pulled once a day, then you'd only get one. Yeah, we this was all being done over phone lines and 1200 mod modems and.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yep, yep. Yep. That's that's how things work. And so, you know, I put a lot of time into that and You know again a lot of that stuff became useful in books and stuff like that anyway the first. You know, that's when I ran to Scott Windsor Who I'm probably you're probably where died last year something like that.

And.

But.

Then I ran into a woman by name of sue Weidemar. Sue Weidemar and Corresponding with sue was not an Enjoyable thing but it was helpful to me for this reason. I.

Learned.

From trying to deal with her most of.

The.

Errors in argumentation that you're going to encounter over and over and over again throughout your entire life trying to apologetics trying to speak to a world and rebellion against God or to people in other religions and.

That's where I learned the concept of projection.

Projection as a Tactic in Public Discourse

Projection is.

Where you take what you're doing? You take the invalid arguments that you're making and. You project them on your opponent. They they may not be doing it. In fact, they normally aren't. You're the one doing it.

But you accuse them of doing what you're doing before they can actually identify what you're doing.

And.

It's extremely frustrating because it's like no, that's what you're doing and That's pretty much the entire internet right now and it's certainly the current political situation and. So I just happen to be looking over here and I see a Kamala Harris thing.

Trump will weaponize the Department of Justice against his political enemies now this is this has been something they've been saying over and over again for weeks and We're all sitting here going. But you're in charge.

It's your Department of Justice and That's what you guys have been doing for three years now. Three and a half years now. I mean, you know, I was raised in a day. Were you? You respected the Department of Justice and you know, there was this had all this credibility and you know, all the rest of stuff and Now it's just like you're a bunch of political hacks.

That's all you are that's and so to be standing up there telling people he's gonna turn the DOJ on us. You know full well that she's completely aware that she You know, I don't know how much she had to do with running stuff.

She didn't seem to really be all that central, but that's she's the vice president and.

So you.

It's it's a little bit like when she repeated the Blood bath thing. I Remember when that first that that quote first appeared when I saw someone saying Trump says if he doesn't win, it's gonna be a bloodbath and Immediately someone had posted the full contact.

I mean this is like the next day. I Forget where it was, but he was speaking about economics. He was speaking about the car industry. He was speaking about how? China was moving Car production into other countries and all this stuff.

They were doing to destroy our car companies and basically force us To have to drive the cars made by people around the world and he said if I'm not elected It's gonna be a it's gonna be a bloodbath because they're going to absolutely destroy the car industry.

It's it was so obvious and so plain That I was like, well this okay. Okay. Some reporter is trying to get something out here. This ain't gonna last long because anybody who Watches this is gonna know this is completely dishonest.

It just continues on It's about there's good people on both sides stuff. You know that that fake quote that did there and You you listen to this stuff and you realize.

You know.

At least in the past conservatives When there was still a fair amount of Christian morality left in the movement and it's draining away quickly had the disadvantage of Having these rules. I Can't just walk out here and lie to everybody.

There is still some level of guilt that was experienced. That's passing that that's long gone on on the left. That's long gone. I mean you literally have a woman here running for president who knew Four years ago the Joe Biden was mentally incompetent and hit it.

She's a part of she's a she's a part of the cover-up. No one will say anything about it, no one will do anything about it. I'm stunned to be honest with you at the utter lack of memory of The American people these are the same people that did all the vaccine mandates and and all this other stuff that we were.

Never forget we will never forget. What was that a year ago? It's hey, look, it's one thing when you get to my age that you know, you're constantly opening up a browser and then going.

Sorry, what? Ah.

That's short-term memory. Once it's a few days down the road now that's turned into long-term memory. I remember 2021. In 2022. I I Remember the long winter of death that Joe Biden said that all of us Unvaccinated people.

And I remember these same reporters who are telling us to believe them now. Were the ones who were saying that all us unvaccinated people.

Should.

You know be rounded up and put in prisons and and all the rest of this kind of stuff so but Do you hear any of that? Almost none of it's it's like it's it's it's literally like Well, what's what's what's going on is the the left is going we will save you From your current situation as long as you forget about the fact that we're the ones that put you in your current situation.

So we've created this mess. We'll come along and we'll save you from this mess. So give us another four years. It's this the stupidity of it leaves me stuttering. But wow now look I was asked on the program I did earlier.

You know, I I have a number of friends who are going, you know, I see reasons for being optimistic here. You know there if you believe the polls which You know the polls have to overcome all those ballots sitting in dark places right now that already say Kamala Harris I Think it'd be really funny if they pulled up, you know someplace in Georgia where they're like, oh, I don't know.

There was all those ballots. They all said Joe Biden. Oh No, that was the wrong case. Oh, no, you know, oops. That's what we were planning on doing and we thought no. But you've got to overcome all that stuff.

And so Yeah, Joe Biden wins. I Can just see see him going. Why? I'm back.

Yeah.

I'm back. I thought I had already retired. What are you talking about? I'm putting on a trumpet. But I I don't know That we can overcome that and I've had a bunch of people say tell me no, no, no, no No, we've fixed all that and we've we've gotten rid of all that and I'm sitting here going in Arizona.

We haven't fixed any of that. It's gonna be you know, you can I can tell Fox News right now go ahead and call Arizona for Harris Because it doesn't matter. What's gonna happen here? I'm sorry. I I just We have a pseudo governor who oversaw her own election she couldn't walk out from her own office and Do a debate if her life depended on it, but hey, there you go.

That's that's what you get from the left. So, I don't know if we can overcome all that and I've told you I feel selfish hoping that we do Because I I'd like to have a few more years to be able to you know, get our money's worth out of this RV and and Continue doing the traveling and the debating and stuff like that.

And I just don't know. I just don't know what Possibilities are gonna be for that in the future. I really really don't But at the at the same at the same time It just concerns me, you know these evangelicals for Harris thing I I started following them when they first showed up and I was I'm gonna unfollow eventually.

It's just I need to keep Pepto-Bismol next to the next to the keyboard reading this stuff. Because It is they're not evangelicals, they know they're not evangelicals and they're just they're just lying about it.

But what I was reminded of and I was thinking about this this projection thing because it if you're a truth-loving person Engaging in that kind of activity where you project what you're doing onto your opponent to create confusion and frustration and all the rest of stuff it It it it does create Frustration.

It's like you're being untruthful. You're being unfair and The left doesn't care about any of that kind of stuff and it reminded me The Prophet Isaiah was talking about what happened in his days.

And.

Isaiah's Diagnosis of a Nation in Moral Collapse

Isaiah 59 12 is for our transgressions are multiplied before you and Our sins testify against us for our transgressions are with us and we know our iniquities transgressing and denying Yahweh and Turning away from our God speaking oppression and revolt conceiving in and uttering from the heart lying words not man when I when I think About now, how did the NASB get back there?

I don't know how that keeps happening. Um cordons keeps putting the NASB back in there anyway. When I think about what's happening in our land. Our transgressions are multiplied before you and our sins testify against us.

How long ago was it that the videos appeared showing Planned Parenthood. Talking about selling baby parts and how to do abortions to keep the best baby parts available. It's been years and The Latin the guy that did it has been fighting for his life because he was Not sued but Arrested and brought upon charges for doing what he did by who?

Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris was the AG that did it. She talks about her guy go after criminals. Yeah, she goes after anybody that says anything about Planned Parenthood, but she did corrupt corrupt corrupt.

By the way, just remind you and it was a controversy back then when she was elected. I preached a sermon an apology of church about Jezebel. Remember that everyone she first got elected. Yeah, we saw that one coming anyway.

Think about that Planned Parenthood is still doing a Planned Parenthood does Planned Parenthood is still getting the federal funding and everything else. Through all the back doors and all the rest of the stuff that the left is provided.

Our transgressions are with us. They testify against us. We know our iniquities. Anymore, it's not only do we know our iniquities. We're proud of our iniquity this is the same White House that had all those LGBTQ people in remember the One that was running around topless at the White House.

This is the same these are the same people's get saying give us four more years. We know our iniquity transgressing and denying Yahweh. Yes, this has never been no. No, no, no. No, no you you people you want us to go back to stuff that we've never believed no.

That this nation's laws were based upon Christian concepts the whole idea of innocent until proven guilty and The the the the blindfold over the eyes of Lady Justice. Where'd all that come from? It came from our Christian heritage, but we how many how many presidents called for days of of prayer and repentance.

National repentance. Oh, we forget all that stuff now that we We we are transgressing and denying Yahweh and turning away from our God. Speaking oppression and revolt. So we oppress those who speak the truth about male and female.

You see the guy in Ireland recently Arrested because he he's speaking out against the the trans stuff in the school system. Okay, it can't do that. That's oppression of Christians revolt against God's truth revolt against God's world.

That's what transgenderism is. It's a fundamental in-your-face revolt we will not submit to God's way. We refuse you won't do it speaking oppression and revolt. Conceiving in and uttering from the heart lying words.

There you go. Yes, all politicians lie it seems to be what it means to be a politician. But there is on the left there is it is become so clear that the narrative Power keeping power keeping people in a state of fear.

This is The great good and so you do anything you will say anything To accomplish your purpose. That's what you do. Conceiving in and uttering from the heart lying words. So the result of this Is listen to this justice is turned back and Righteousness stands far away.

For truth has stumbled in the street and uprightness cannot enter. Yes, truth is lacking and he who turns aside from evil makes himself a prey. What a description. What a description. Justice is turned back, but everybody talks about justice, right, but they can never define it.

Because if you're going to use the term justice, what's the next thing you have to have?

By.

What standard. And the secular worldview only has one standard the state. Because there's nothing transcendent above the state, you know all above you is sky. There's nothing up there it's just Less and less oxygen the farther you go Until you die in the cold of space.

There's nothing up there there's no standard. So justice Walks away from such a situation. Righteousness stands far away. We expect. We are seeing. Did you see the sad sad video of? Of the elderly woman who goes to the springfield city council and and says.

My.

My husband and I have lived in the same house for over 40 years. And he's ill and we're too old for this but he said we have to pack up and move. We we can't we have we have people living in our front yard throwing things at us in a language.

We don't understand and nobody will help us. And i've i've seen that around here.

Um.

I've seen since 2020.

The.

I mentioned I live fairly close to a canal. That I used to run on. And and you know what I remember probably about 2015 or so I remember going out and and kelly and I would do this. When when my wife was working uber uber early hours super early hours.

I mean she had to be at work at like four or five in the morning. There are a couple times we'd go out.

And.

I remember the last time we did it. We were riding along the canal along the path in the canal. And it was like I said, it was like 2 30 in the morning. And you know, we got lights on our bikes and stuff like that.

And.

We.

We ran into. We ran into sprinklers that were on right next to the path. We're talking. We're not talking. We're talking. Soak you type stuff. And I tried to avoid one and she was riding my wheel. We hit each.

We're.

Laying on the ground getting soaked by the sprinklers. It was so much fun. It was it was great. Uh, I lost my phone it flipped out of my. Uh, it was it was. But you know years later you you think back and you're just like ha ha ha that wasn't that exciting.

It wasn't at the time, but I remember once we went out super early morning and we'd go jogging by moonlight on that canal.

And.

Wasn't wasn't an issue. You don't do that now. The all the underpasses are now filled with drug addicts and criminals and human feces and.

Uh.

Needles and. It's it's a mess just like every other democrat-run city in the united states. It's like the memo went out. Okay. Let them all go. Let them just do whatever they want to do. Don't enforce the laws.

Don't clean anything up. Just let everything Go to heck and uh, that's that's what's happened. Just in the past number of years and here's this poor lady going we're gonna we're gonna have to move. Where are we?

But where are you supposed to go? I mean springfield, ohio.

What?

Um.

Where where can you go to avoid all this stuff because. That's what these people want. And then they turn around and say but we. We want to lower your costs and we want they're lying. They they can't speak the truth.

They they don't even have a standard for knowing what the truth is. So justice is turned back. Righteousness stands far away. There's no. The law is no longer being enforced. We have we we used to Say what made america great over against banana republic.

Was that? We were a nation of laws not a nation of men. We've lost that. Why. Because law has to have a foundation. By what standard where do you get that law from? We once Admitted, you know We've had lots of of court cases and supreme court cases and stuff.

From the beginning where the bible was cited as a foundational document won't happen now because we don't believe it anymore. So Righteousness stands for off for truth has stumbled in the street. What a picture.

What a picture. We see these things now. We see beatings taking taking place in the streets and and the lawlessness. And there's truth it stumbled the street. Uprightness cannot enter. It's a picture of the the ways that you would travel around the city on the streets.

And so justice righteousness truth and uprightness. You can't get any more. Truth is lacking and he who turns aside from evil makes himself a prey. Think about it. How many people have lost their jobs because they would not bow to the alphabet mafia the lgbtq Revolution.

He who turns aside from evil who does the right thing. I'm going to turn aside from evil. You make yourself The object of derision. You become the prey.

Um.

What happened to this nation? Captivity destruction. Why do we think. Well, yeah, it happened to them. That's not gonna happen to.

Um.

Was there. I'm, sorry. It is happening. It is happening right now.

Um.

It is an amazing thing to observe.

Um.

Okay, where did I have this? All right.

Uh.

Weird stuff on. Well, there's all this weird stuff on twitter, isn't it? That's just sort of what it's all about but um I'm gonna go ahead and try to show this. I I can do it because i've got it on Here, but I don't remember if I put this backwards.

Okay, good. We didn't test this but it'll work.

Uh.

Another protestia, I. I don't know what these these guys do. I mean.

I.

I often feel guilty. I spend too much time.

Um.

Online, but These guys live online and they really catch a lot of roman catholic stuff that We don't see here in the states as much I have often said. If you go to mexico, if you go to central america to the the deep dark roman catholic areas You will see why.

The.

Apologetic the catholic answers and people like that use here in the united states about the veneration of mary. This doesn't work there. And and the catholics there wouldn't even try it. Um when you try to say we're not worshiping mary.

We only worship god. And worship is latria and latria is only to be given to god.

And.

When we honor saints and angels, that's dulia and. Again, if you trace those terms back to divine revelation in scripture, and they don't have to worry about that. They only trace it back to their traditions.

So there you go, but you trace these things back to divine revelation in scripture. And there is no distinction between them. They come from one hebrew term aha to serve to worship and so.

Uh.

It's it's it's not derived from god's revelation but it's used to excuse The worship of mary so she's given hyper dulia. Yeah, when you when you hear people talking like that and using terms like hyper dulia, um, you know, they're trying to cover over something and there's a there's a reformed lady on twitter that seems to attract a lot of really Nasty people and I I couldn't find it now, but she had made some statement and This roman catholic had just you know Straight out had said to her Mary is the mother of god.

Um.

She is the spouse of the holy spirit.

And.

You know she had done this. This person this person not she but this person that was responding to her. Went beyond dogmatic roman catholic teaching but. As i've been pointing out for decades now in my presentation as a mary.

This kind of stuff as mary as the spouse of the spirit.

Um.

You know the quote about the holy spirit never became incarnate. But the closest is his relationship to mary the immaculata. And all the rest of the time you you sit back and and you. You you go. Okay, so we started here.

How in the world do you get there from here. That does not make any sense. That's it's not even possible.

Um.

And the reality is you can do it. Um. And you do it by tradition you do it by tradition.

Um.

So i'm going to show you by the way, one of the reasons i'm doing this like an idiot. I left some books sitting on the Kitchen counter when I left today. Including the main book that I wanted to talk to you about today, but we'll have to wait till next week.

Um, which I tried to talk to people about during the presidential debate, but that was a disaster. He wrote up an entire article About it. But again, that was a disaster and it didn't work. And uh.

Yes, yeah.

Yeah, that's what i'm talking about. Um.

And.

I'm saying that people. A bunch of these roman catholics send her all sorts of wild and crazy stuff and I follow her so I see it anyway.

Um.

I'm, really disappointed myself that I didn't bring with me today the widening of god's mercy. Um the new book from the hayes father and son team. That I got uh, just an hour before the presidential debate started And hence had some opportunity to look at.

I think it's really really important. We've been dealing with homosexuality since about 2001 Here at the ministry and This book will be promoted a lot it shouldn't be because it's vacuous. But since it presents An argument that most of us aren't used to dealing with.

Um, lord willing i'll remember to have it with me.

Um.

Late monday afternoon because you said you got something in the morning, but we can still do something in the afternoon. Okay, so probably three o 'clock our time six o 'clock eastern time on monday. I'll make sure to have it with me.

I have the kindle, but I I'd like to be able to show you stuff.

Um.

I know that that's not an exciting topic to a lot of folks, but you need to understand especially if you're a pastor. This stuff gets in your church. If you're trying to deal with people dealing with homosexuality, this is the.

You got to know this stuff's out there and you got to know how to respond to it. I mean We have always been in ministry to help the church and this is I think one of the most important things. I almost have to Beg you to listen.

Knowing that five years down the road somebody could come up to me and say thank you so much for warning us ahead of time. I Was just meeting with the family in my church and they walk in with this book and wow.

Uh, I was ready. I've had that happen with so many other things. I know it's going to happen with this one. I know it's going to happen with this one and by the way, just again for those of you because some of you make Make the journey.

The first full weekend in december I'll be in saint charles at covenant grace church.

And.

Our topic will be the lgbtqia revolution. And i'll have sections sessions on that book and.

Other.

We'll look at what are the current leading books? Resources that people are using to promote this stuff within the church. And so, um, I think that'll be a hopefully helpful and useful. Uh study, uh there at the church.

Okay, so we'll get to that on monday. Just let you know. We'll we'll be heading that direction. You might want to look it up see some of the Hubbub about it and we'll go from there. So here is a video.

From mexico. And uh. And this is. It's titled catholics nearly trample one another trying to touch a statue of mary at the romeria De el rocio pilgrimage in spain, sorry not mexico spain. Uh is where this is is taking place.

Um, let's let's it it has audio. I do, but it's all in spanish. So it doesn't really matter but you can have it up. Um, let's just let's just watch. Foreign Foreign Foreign.

Foreign.

And I guess that's where it ends, um.

Wow.

I'll back it up here to one of the spots where you can sort of. See it there. Um. What do you say when you see something like that? Do you understand how? Trying to say. That's not latria. That's hyperdulia.

Is a distinction utterly without difference it means nothing. This is idolatry this is taking a statue Of a godly woman from the past. A blessed woman from the past Who identified god as her savior not because she had any concept of the immaculate conception which developed long long long long later a godly servant of christ that the apostles never present.

As.

A savior figure a mediator figure a source of grace. They never say go to mary.

None.

It again if this is your grounding. And even if this were the lens through which you were to look at later development, you'd have to go. No, no, no, no.

No, no, no.

If the apostles were to be to were to watch this they they'd be going. What are you people doing. What what what is going on here? They have no concept of and yet Here you have. Look look at the faces.

This is religious fervor. This is worship. These are people risking literally risking life and limb. I mean there could have been people trampled in that to carry around An image a statue of mary. What has to be said Of the religion that produces this kind of ideology.

What I mean by that Is if you are a person Who understands that your Standing with god Is based upon the finished work of jesus christ. That you are indwelt by his spirit. That you've been adopted into his family.

You have his righteousness as the grounds of your peace with god. And so the trials and difficulties that you go through The hard things that happen in your life. Do so at the hand of the god who is described as working all things after the counsel of his will.

And so, you know That romans chapter 8 tells you And promises to you that god works all things for the good Of those who love god. Those are called according to purpose no matter what Nt right tried to do with that one.

Um.

You you have that confidence. A person who has that confidence isn't in this crowd. You aren't risking life and limb. To try to get to get near and one thing i'm noticing I see no women this must be there must be something about this particular pilgrimage or Whatever.

I don't know. That is limited to guys. Believe you me if you want to find All sorts of video of women doing the exact same thing women touching statues and straining to touch statues and do all the rest of stuff and Rocking back and forth in front of statues of mary and praying their rosaries and doing stuff like that.