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So last night that's not I was on um, I Was on let's see. I was on the clubhouse and I do a Wednesday night thing at 9 p .m. Eastern Time do for a couple of hours where I just answer questions and This this atheist guy comes in the room and another atheist guy.

He was really nice. I mean, no problem. We had a great time talking but this one kid comes in demanding pushy and Spoke very quickly and then trying to force answers out of me very rapidly. And I said slow down slow down and he continued to over talk as a slow down then he started insulting me and then he said he was going to attack my wife and Man, and so he got pretty quickly and I tried to find out how to ban him or report him.

I couldn't figure it out, you know, you and righteously reminded me. Hey, I tried to do it, but I couldn't figure it out. So anyway, that's what it is and we have a prayer ministry also run by joy. And if you want to you can email us a prayer request a prayer at carm .org prayer at carm org, you know if you've got an issue, you know, and you just need prayer and maybe even someone to talk to you because they're Pretty good there.

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This is a good one. I used to listen to Hank Hanegraaff often and I'm not asking you to judge his heart. But his full acceptance of Ethan or Eastern Orthodoxy has this placed him into a false religion.

Yes, it has. He seemed to have a fault. Well, if our guess that's true. Yeah, it's true. And I Can't trust Hank Hanegraaff. I've met the guy and I used to do volunteer work at CRI when it was in Southern, California.

And it was interesting and got to meet him not a big deal and I know stuff. I won't say with a radio. And I've had some connections with people on the inside over there when dr Walter Martin died and he took over and I've got information from both sides and Stuff and I'm not surprised that he went to Eastern Orthodoxy and that is definitely a sign of apostasy that Eastern Orthodox Church teaches false doctrine when it comes to Sateriology the doctrine of Salvation he's a false teacher there because it's a false religion.

All right. Hey, we have four open lines. If you want to give me a call. It's seven seven two zero seven two two seven six. Let's get to Nelson from Mexico. Nelson welcome you're on the air. God bless man.

Where are you in Mexico? You see a lot? Okay. Good. Yeah, it's not true. In fact, I might be talking about this tonight in the Bible study that I'm teaching. In Romans 9 24, it says you guys he called people not only from the Jews But also from the Gentiles and he says I call those my people who are not my people.

Okay goes on and he says Within in verse 30 the Gentiles who did not pursue righteousness attained righteousness. Even the righteousness is by faith, but Israel Pursuing a law of righteousness did not arrive at that law.

Why. Because they did not pursue it by faith, but as though it were by works they stumbled over the stumbling stone. So Paul is condemning them. He's saying look, you know, they rejected the Messiah and are seeking to be justified by the law.

They don't have it. So the one this guy is is, you know, he's it's a cult anyway, and he's just teaching false doctrine. Okay, then I would at that point when I give him the truth and he doesn't receive it I'd say well.

By the way, let me ask you let me ask you. So what do you do to keep yourself right with God? Because it's a cult and Cults always have works have to do just you know find out, you know what it is. And then just put the weight of the law on him.

Oh, so you do this this and this I often will take notes from. An individual that I'm talking to you know, see I got my fingers on that on my keyboard. What you know what things you have to do in order to keep yourself right with God and say what.

Yeah. Well, you got to believe okay. And what else can't see movies or what you can or you can't lie you have to do this. You have to do that. What is it and doesn't give me a list. And so I said are you doing these things and then I asked him are you doing them on the same level as Jesus?

Because he's the standard of righteousness and. Then what they say, well, I'm trying whether you're not doing it and if they say yeah, they're good enough that way then. You're just being arrogant. So, but you know, that's one of the follow-up things.

I'll do with them. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would gladly have a public debate against him on that. Because it in the original languages the original languages if anything support it and. You know James White and he or friends James White say a Calvinist they've had friendly discussions.

I would be glad to debate him. I wouldn't be glad to say well, let's take a look, you know and see so the issue is what is the scripture say? You know and you know, one of the things I'll do questions 214.

And where it talks about Jesus having cancer forgiveness all of our transgressions having canceled up the certificate of debt. And I said, what is that certificate of debt? You may go through it. It's only be two things either the law or the sin.

Sin debt and if it's the law that's canceled then you can't have sin because Romans 5 13 and Romans 5 14, I think it is or 5 15. Let me check. Always learning new verses and stuff. Yeah, it was 415. Says that when there is no law there is no sin.

So if the law has been fulfilled and canceled We're removed and there can't be any sin against anybody if they say it's a sin debt that I'm gonna ask him then. Is a sin that paid for everybody? Well, yes, then how can they go to hell?

They don't believe but that's a sin and Doesn't matter because there's what they want to do is say well, it's all sin except for this one. But they play games with logic in the text don't make it fit.

So You know, it's I think that is have a discussion with him. I've talked to him before. He's a good guy, you know. Okay, all right. Well, God bless. All right. Now, let me get this job. I'm reading something in the text of Clubhouse Clark says Matt should stop debating lower-tier people of other camps like the monarchianism guy.

He was a train wreck. Yeah, it was a train wreck for that guy. Um, I still can't get over the last night. I hope everyone reported him. Yeah, he was bad. He was that's right. Okay, let's We have two open lines if you want to give me a call eight seven seven.

Two zero seven two two seven six. Let's see. It's crystal from Utah crystal. Welcome. You're on the air. Sure, of course. Oh. Well I'm glad you're the one talking to her not me. Because you'd say something much better than I would I Can tell you're not telling your tone that you know, it's just a strain on you.

It's stressful and and there's emotion involved and you know, you're hoping and that's a good thing but You're doing fine. Okay, just love her and and You know, don't be too pushy. Because you know how it is mom and dad can say the same thing the neighbor says don't listen to the neighbor.

But not mom and dad. So you got to just you know be patient and and moms have that way of being Just so good and supportive and touching the heart and everything. So I am sure you're gonna do a great job.

That's good, yeah, yeah just trust God and move yeah. Okay. Well, thank you and praise God and you know, I hope it goes well and let us know. We don't just give a feedback to you know, sometimes they call up.

There's no it's going on because and people will pray for her too, you know. So your name's crystal and we'll just say everybody pray for crystals daughter. Okay, you're welcome so much. Okay. Okay. All right.

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Here's Matt slick, all right, but welcome back to the show. Thanks for listening. If you want to give me a call, all you gotta do is dial eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six and Let's get to grant from Utah grant.

Welcome. You're on the air. Thank you, sir doing all right hanging in there. What do you got?

All right. I got a question about First John 219. I think it was Okay. Yeah, and then with the verse Diverse talking about. But they were one. Oh, I'm sorry.

The natural man that cannot come to God first Corinthians 214. Yep.

Yeah, and then you hear about Ministers or pastors leaving the church after 30 years. How does that work? Help me understand that. Well sure.

Okay, we can so there can be people who have a false conversion. There could be like for example think of the the heretics. Who teach false doctrine in public like Joey choice Meyer. Yeah, and you know, she taught and not that I'm aware of she's never repented of teaching damnable heresy.

Denying the sufficiency of the atonement sacrifice. All right so hopefully she's repented of that but I've not heard of it so if anybody knows if she has then let me know because She said that There's no salvation.

Without believing that Jesus went to hell and finished the atonement there and that's that's heresy that that's damnable heresy. So, okay, so I'm gonna work from this use her as an example. She would be non-regenerate she would be a person who thinks the regenerate and in the place of power and authority and Etc.

And so they stay in that. There could be that and then she'll find out on the day of judgment. She's in a lot of trouble. There can be there. There are pastors who are actually atheists right now. There's a few and I've heard about them.

There's an article written about them and they can't give they can't say that they're atheists because I'll lose her job. That's the only thing they know to do and so there's that now in between. We can have people who think they're saved who keep their salvation.

They think they keep their salvation by being good. You know, they don't go to bad movies and they they they say well I've not committed adultery. So therefore I'm going to stay safe. So they're compliance with the law is the means by which they're justified.

Well, that's a sign of no regeneration. And so in such cases a lot of times those who are not regenerate in that respect. What they'll do is gradually get tired of their law keeping their self-righteousness their pride their arrogance.

It weighs upon them and they start having doubts and they lose their faith. But it wasn't an ultimately true faith. It was a faith that they had in an idea without being regenerated and they they're gone.

And so you can have that you can also have people who are not covenantally faithful and that's a little bit further out there theologically as far as the options go where someone Could be like a Jew could be covenantally consistent.

But not be saved at the same time and then leave because of that kind of a thing. It's similar to the last scenario. I gave with it not Jew. Someone's keeping a lot, but what they do. Okay, so there's options.

All right, right.

Okay, okay, can people still get saved from them? I.

Didn't understand. They get saved from them. That we said. Yeah, of course. Absolutely. Yeah, let's say that an atheist pastor gets up and he's just got to do this because people have been asking them to do it.

And let's say he gives the salvation message. The power of the message is not in him. The power of the message is in the truth conveyed whether he believes it or not. And so absolutely people can be saved.

And we have to make sure that we don't commit what's called the genetic fallacy. Well that atheist pastor false pastor preached the gospel so people can't get saved with him. No, it's not true. Okay, right.

All right. I'm just wondering about those two verses. Do you believe that people can can lose your salvation.

Only they're not.

Well, okay. Okay, if they're really saved. Truly really safe. Can they lose? If they're truly saved they cannot lose their so good good good for you. All right good for you. All right.

Okay. Appreciate your help man. Thank you. God bless and praise the Lord.

No problem man, God bless buddy. All right. Okay, that was grant from Utah. And now what we're gonna do is get to Eric from Charlotte, North Carolina. Eric welcome. You're on the air. Yes, I can. Well, first of all, let's read it so people can hear what it says.

I'll read verses 8 and 9 out of psalm 137. Oh daughter of Babylon you devastated one. How blessed will be the one who repays you with a recompense with which you have repaid us? How blessed be the one who seizes and dashes your little ones against the rock?

And so this is what's called an imprecatory psalm and The imprecatory psalm deals with wishing harm upon others. It's a tough one. I mean it is but there's ways to look at it and we'll do that. I'll examine it.

One of the things about it. Is that. It doesn't say that it actually happened. Okay so. The fact that God allowed people their sinful desires and he worked within their culture To permit all kinds of bad things.

That's one of the things that's going there you know knife and I a tooth for tooth and The psalmist the psalmist is speaking in such a way that he wants the. Because it says even before then. Remember in verse 7 remember Oh Lord against the sons of Edom that the day of Jerusalem who said raise it raise it.

That's our AZE which means to destroy Raise it to its foundation. So he's responding. The psalmist is responding With a very strong invective so two things one if the. Two things. Okay. This is what I do with the atheists.

I say Is it morally wrong to do if they say yes, then I'm gonna jump on them and say Then what what's the universal moral standard you have they don't have it and then they have to go with to what's called an internal Critique and that's what we'll go to here and after the break.

We got a break coming up. So hold on. Okay. And we'll get back to this. So hey folks, we'd write back after these messages. We have three open lines if you want to give me a call eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six.

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Oh. Welcome back to the show. If you want to give me a call you can. Eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six. All right. Let's get back to Eric from Charlotte. Are you there? So the basic response on an internal critique is that they have to Go in and analyze the text what I tell them is That nowhere does it say that God approved of what the psalmist was wishing?

Nor where does it say that it was carried out either? So that what is actually the case is that the psalmist is wishing a curse upon the people who the same? Retribution upon them that they received by the hands of the Babylonians so he's just wishing a curse on them and You know in the Christian context, we wouldn't wish that but this is what's recorded and What he's doing is wanting recompense.

He's wanting. This is what you do. This is what you're gonna get back and made it happen to you. And that's what he's saying. So right or wrong, that's what it is. Okay. Thank you so much. We're going to be happy and so it's by those who he was saying don't thing that you deserve.

You're getting paid back. What you what you've done. Yeah, that's what it is and a lot of people forget that the Bible in the Old Testament. It's a lot of history. There's a lot of bloodshed. There's a lot of bad stuff going on and the psalmist is whoever it is we don't know who because there's many authors of the Psalms, but he was wishing retribution upon the people who did the very thing to Israel and the Horrific thing that they did.

This is may be done to you. But that's what he's doing and it may not be the case that he's actually wishing that specific thing because in the Jewish mind it could be but in the Jewish mind also they they would speak in such ways that a curse for a curse an eye for an eye and just speaking that way and it means they you know.

You may you lose an eye over this as you have done to us and it may not be that they're actually Actually wishing that it happened but that they get what's coming to them, okay. All right, brother, thanks a lot man god bless.

All right. Okay. Well, that was Eric from Charlotte, North Carolina. We have four open lines if you want to give me a call eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six. Let's get to Shannon from Charlotte, North Carolina.

Shannon welcome here on the air. Shannon. Hello Shannon. Yeah. Shannon are you there? Well, you know what folks if you want you can give me a call eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six. I want to hear from you give me a call.

And just kind of stalling with her. Maybe she can fix the funnel. I'll leave it open. Well, I do some some email questions. We've got some of those. Let's see. Okay, yeah, that's right that's what. Okay that one I've already answered about Hank Hancock, it's really too bad that he went into Eastern Orthodoxy.

It really is it's. You know, I was talking to Roman Catholic and an Eastern Orthodox got people in the past couple of weeks. So, you know, I talk him do impromptu debates. And it's really amazing to me to see how people I talked to my wife about it to see how people just refuse scripture just refuse to believe what it says and You know, I've known that for years of course.

But lately it's really starting to intrigue me when something is so clearly taught. It's right there and then they just refuse it and and I'll repeat things to them. I remember once I was talking to a guy about About what a certain verse actually said, you know.

It was Colossians 2 14 where Jesus nailed the certificate of debt to the cross. It was it was finished at the cross canceled at the cross and it literally took 20 minutes for him to finally admit what the text said and it was really interesting because he did not want it to support my theology because he hated my theology and he wanted his Theology to be true and he refused to just acknowledge what the actual wording was.

And it took 20 minutes before he finally did and I asked him I said why would it do that? You should just if your theology is so good. Shouldn't it just agree with Scripture right from the beginning? Why do you have to deny what it says why does it take 20 minutes to get you admit what the text actually even says.

It's interesting that as I look at people in cults and I see them behave this way I get it but Christians do it, too. They get so loyal to an ideology. That they submit the scriptures to that ideology and that's idolatrous.

They should be careful. Let's get to Ricky from Virginia. Hey Ricky. Welcome here on the air. Oh, Matt. Hey, how we doing, man?

You there, okay. Okay good. Yes, I am on Matt. I appreciate your ministry. Listen to you as often as I can and I really appreciate the work that you do. Praise God. Um, I do have a. I have a question that pertains to the book of John chapter 10 verse 34 in the it says Yes, as Jesus answered them is it not written in your law.

I said ye are God's now. The NASB in the 1995 version it has a capital G For God all the other modern versions has a small G. I just wanted to call and see what you take is on.

The reason the NASB I'm looking at that exact version that's my standard version I use it says I said you are gods are all in the cap. Which means it's a quote from the Old Testament.

Okay. Oh, okay. Okay. So yeah. Right, right. And even in the Psalms when I pull that up, it's a small G. Well, yeah, but it's not a capital G. Okay.

Okay, so Generally, you don't want to pay attention to caps and not caps when you have a question like that because in the Greek is not there. Okay, it's just it doesn't exist. Okay. Yeah, so like I'm looking looking at the Greek, you know a go a pay estate say away and it says, you know, it's just the the letter for The capital T.

It's not a capital T. It's just say, you know say away it's you know gods. That's it. And so what we do in English what they'll do in English is if it's referencing God like in verse 36 You know, he says are you upset with me?

Because I said I am the son of God and the word God there is Capitalized but it's the same word fail. Okay. So, okay. All right. Well interesting. I think it might be all right. Yeah. So that's all it is.

He said quote from Psalm 82 6. That's all it is and it's an imprecatory song, right? You know, he says because the unrighteous judges were having the power of life and death. They were you know there and then so what Jesus is doing is quoting that is a mockery Against and judgment again actually a judgment against the the Jews at that place.

We're condemning him. Okay.

Yeah, and it says in the next birth chapter 35 it says. It's if he called them gods with a Lord G. Until whom the Word of God capital G came in the scriptures cannot be broken. I was just curious because like I say the NA SV is the only one that capitalized gods in that verse even in Psalms.

As You know capital G all the other modern verses has it in a small G. In which exact verse?

John chapter 10 verse 34 34. Okay. I'll check it out during the break. You want to hold on? I'll look at different versions. Okay. Yes, sir. All right. Hey folks. We right back after these messages. We have four open lines if you want to give me a call.

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Here's Matt Slick. Welcome to the show. Welcome back. If you want to give me a call. Eight seven seven two zero seven. Two two seven six. Ricky. Are you still there? Yes, sir, I am. All right, so I looked at some other translations and you know, make sure I'm following you correctly.

He says in verse. Oh verse 34 the wrong one, but he says you are gods and. So all the other translations don't have it capitalized. Is that what you're saying, right? Yeah, because the reason it's a real simple reason because in the NASB they capitalize a quote from the Old Testament.

They just it's all in caps. That's a designation. Hey, that's from the Old Testament. Here's exact quote. That's what it is.

Okay. I thought that the verse in Psalms referred to when they mentioned no. Okay.

Okay. If there's a quote the Old Testament and he walked by the water. Okay, and something like that. They quoted in the New Testament. Then he walked by the water would all be in caps. Because it's it's just it's just the way the NASB 95 does it it just puts Old Testament Quotes, it just puts them all in caps.

That's all it does. That's all that's okay. That's why the whole word. So I said you're gods or you. I said you are gods. I is capital. The word said is capital. You is capital are is capital. Gods is capital.

All of it is just capitals because it's a quote in the Old Testament. That's just how they do that. Okay, okay.

All right. Well, thank you. Thank you, man.

This is sure. No problem, man. All right, okay, brother. Okay, god bless. All right. Now, let's get to Sharice from Charlotte, North Carolina. Sharice. Welcome. You're on the air. Are you there? Sharice.

Sharice. Sharice. I think her name is hi. Welcome. You're on the air. Yes.

Yes, my question is what would you tell a person that says? They always say and I know that being is what separates us from God.

Well, I believe that we're once we're saved. We're all we're always. I Believe we're always saying that we're saved. We cannot lose it. That's my opinion. Do you think we can lose salvation? Well, do you think we can lose it?

No, I don't think we can lose it. But I know that it can break your relationship. Oh.

Sure, you can affect it. It can surely make it, you know. Troublesome, but God will never leave us or forsake us. Okay, right. Yeah, and so for example There's a Greek construction John 639 for all of the father gives me will come to me and the one who comes to me I certainly will not cast out.

I will certainly not cast out in the Greek. It's who may it's two words and it's an emphatic Form it's called emphatic negation subjunctive. And it means it's like saying no not even anyway. No way. It's like saying that.

So he says he'll no way cast him out ever, okay. And John 635 it says that to I'm the bread of life who comes. To who he who comes to me will not hunger it says and that's who may Will never ever ever hunger and he who believes in me will never that's never third.

That's who may also never ever ever not gonna happen. Not even possible. That's what he's saying. It's a very strict Greek construction to designate an absolute. Okay, are you there? Okay. All right. Yes, I'm you.

Can you hear me? Oh, yeah, but you're right sin can affect our relationship with God and he you know. We'll be patient with us hoping they'll repent and then if we don't sometimes he disciplines us and I've been disciplined.

Let's say more than once and one time very significantly and praise God my youthful exuberance of stupidity after I walked with Christ and so He's just never gonna leave us or forsake us it's just not gonna happen.

Okay. Are you there any questions about that? Yes. Thank you, okay. Okay, well then good. All right. Well God bless. You'd be blessed as well. Okay. All right, you know, I think we had no callers waiting right now.

If you want to call me eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six you know a lot of people teach that you could lose your salvation and My position is that you cannot now think about this if God has really redeemed you.