God's Freedom to Choose

Alpha & Omega Ministries

4 views

April 26, 2015

Comments are disabled.

00:05: We have already read our Scripture text for this morning, which is why
00:12: I chose to do that. As you can see, it is a lengthy one. So if you'll turn with me, please, to Romans chapter 9.
00:25: Romans chapters 8 and 9, technically. Before we once again look to the
00:34: Word of God, let us ask Him to bless our time together. Our gracious Heavenly Father, once again, as we handle
00:41: Your Word, we would ask that You would protect us from distraction. You would help us to hear, to listen, to understand.
00:48: And Lord, protect us from the traditions of men, from the errors of our own thinking. Lord, may we truly hear
00:55: You speak. We pray in Christ's name. Some of you are going, well,
01:00: James, we know you've been gone a lot recently, but Pastor Fry is preaching through Romans and was in this section not that long ago.
01:09: Well, you would be correct that I am doing a lot of traveling and that I miss some of that.
01:15: But yes, I do understand the numbering system. And since we are where we are in Romans, I realize that we already went through this once.
01:25: So I'm not seeking to go, well, I just don't think Fry got it all. I'm going to try to take another shot at it or anything along those lines at all.
01:34: Some of you may, if you're new to our fellowship or haven't been here for all that many years, you may be not aware of the fact that I have a rather unusual career path and job description.
01:50: I hate when people ask me, so what do you do? Because my only response is, do you have half an hour? Because I get to do a lot of unusual things.
01:59: And one of the things I get to do fairly frequently is engage in moderated public debate.
02:06: And I remember a number of years ago, I was preparing for a debate with John Dominick Crossan.
02:13: And you all who were here at the time were extremely patient, for in Sunday school you got to learn more about John Dominick Crossan's views than you ever, ever wanted to know.
02:26: And so that has happened a lot and very frequently. It's just a weakness of mine that if my mind is in a particular area, if I'm preparing for a particular subject, that it's easier to speak on that than to try to put all that aside and do something different.
02:45: Well, this coming weekend, this coming Friday, I'll be flying to Dallas, Texas. And the first thing
02:52: I'll be doing is speaking at a worldview conference specifically on the subject of homosexuality.
02:58: Well, you can breathe easily. That's not in Romans 9 anywhere, so we don't have to worry about that.
03:05: But on the following Monday, so a week from tomorrow, I will be debating a professor from Dallas Baptist University specifically on Romans chapter 9.
03:17: Now, how do you debate a chapter of the Bible? It's there. It's canonical. We both agree on that.
03:23: We believe it's the word of God. So how do you debate it? Well, obviously we know that if you're talking about debating
03:30: Romans chapter 9, what you're talking about debating is what does this text say.
03:37: Now, when Pastor Fry preached through Romans chapters 8 and 9, he did so over the course of many, many, many weeks.
03:45: And so you would look at just a few verses at a time, sometimes just one verse, sometimes just a couple of phrases from one verse, as you're seeking to open up the entirety of the meaning and talk about the relationship of this particular text to other texts in Scripture, so on and so forth.
04:04: And that, of course, is a wonderful and appropriate way of looking at these texts. But, on a very practical level, you and I, because of our shared commitment to the high doctrines of the
04:18: Bible and allowing the Bible to speak for itself, and in fact, allowing the Bible to preach some unpopular things, especially in a world where man's will and man's autonomy has become just the idol of our society.
04:35: I mean, just a couple days ago, a couple nights ago, you may have seen a man that I certainly knew when
04:44: I was a young person, Bruce Jenner, one of the greatest athletes of all time.
04:52: And I remember that gold medal, and I remember how excited everyone was in the United States, so on and so forth.
04:59: Well, the idea of human autonomy has allowed him to think that he somehow has the ability to define his own gender over and against God's creative decree.
05:12: Well, that's the result of human autonomy in the secular world. But, unfortunately, the concept of human autonomy is very central in the religious world as well.
05:24: And when the Bible speaks of God's autonomy versus man's autonomy, well, there are a lot of people that don't like that.
05:32: And so when we seek to speak concerning what we believe to others, they find especially this emphasis where we start with God, and we start with his character, and we start with his attributes, and we start with his purposes.
05:46: And that's central, and then we read down from that, and man is his creature, and so we have to look at man as the creature of God.
05:56: But we start with God. We are theocentric in our reasoning, in our theology, in our reading of Scripture.
06:05: We start with God. We do not start with man. Some people would say you can't do that. And we would say, well,
06:10: God has spoken, and as he has spoken, he has revealed himself, and that is the most central aspect.
06:17: You do not start with man and reason out from man to try to come to conclusions about God. That would be backwards.
06:24: And as we engage in conversation with others, they will find our position to be rather unusual.
06:30: And they may ask us, well, why do you believe these things? And many of you will give testimony that it was the careful study and listening to what
06:39: Paul says in Romans chapter 9 that was sort of the final straw, the straw that broke the camel's back and convinced you that, yes, indeed, salvation is of the
06:49: Lord. Salvation is fully within his hand, and he has the right to use me as his creature in any way he sees fit.
06:58: But there are many people, obviously, we all know, that do not agree on that subject.
07:04: And so, when we have opportunity of speaking, we don't have multiple weeks of meetings to get to go slowly through everything.
07:14: Sometimes we only have a few moments. I have often had the situation, given the amount of traveling that I do, of engaging in conversation with someone in the seat next to me.
07:25: Now, I'm not one of those jabberboxes. Don't get me wrong. I would much rather sleep than anything else.
07:30: But there are times when I've got my Bible out, or I've got a Greek text out, or a
07:37: Koran out. That's always a real big hit on an airplane. And a conversation will begin, and you only have a certain amount of time.
07:49: Unless you're flying to South Africa, then you've got plenty of time. But normally, there's a time limitation involved, and so we have to be able to do a flyover, but do it accurately, and do it in a proper fashion.
08:03: So here's the plan for today. This morning, I want to sort of give you an idea of what
08:12: I'm going to say. I only have 20 minutes in the debate to make the positive presentation.
08:18: So I've got about twice that this morning, and so I won't have to talk as fast, and I'll be able to say a little bit more.
08:26: But how might we look at Romans 8 and 9 and summarize that message?
08:31: If you're talking to someone and you can tell they have a respect for and a belief in the
08:37: Word of God, there are certain places that we are naturally attracted to to be able to sit down with someone and say, well, reason with me.
08:45: Listen to what the Scriptures say here. Let's really enter into this text. Romans 8 and 9 would be one, obviously.
08:52: John 6 and 10 would be another text we might want to be thinking about. Obviously, Ephesians 1.
08:59: These are texts that come to our mind. But how might we be able to communicate this text, rather than just simply reading it, how might we be able to explain it to someone, giving the background, and most importantly, showing the consistency of the presentation as we read it on the page of Scripture?
09:20: Because, in my experience, that is what truly causes the child of God to stop and go, alright,
09:26: I need to take seriously what the Word of God is saying here. I need to deal with what is being said here in the pages of Scripture.
09:36: How would we go about doing that? Then this evening, what I would like to do is to deal with the objections that people raise to the reading that I will provide this morning.
09:47: The many different kinds and avenues of trying to get around, in essence, obviously, that's my conclusion, get around the clarity of the presentation of this text of Scripture.
10:01: Now, we began back in Romans chapter 8, because, as you all know, certainly should know, chapter and verse divisions came long, long, long, long, long after the time that the
10:11: Bible was written. Most of the time, they sort of do follow natural breaks of thought, but other times they introduce divisions that we really shouldn't necessarily be seeing in the text.
10:24: I start at verse 28. Obviously, verse 28 is related to what came before it, so on and so forth.
10:29: We have to start somewhere. But we recognize, and I don't have time today to spend a lot of time on it, but I think it is important to establish the fact that Romans chapter 9 does not just pop out of nowhere, and that the context of Romans chapter 9 is distinctly soteriological.
10:50: What do I mean by that? Well, soteriology is the study of the doctrine of salvation.
10:56: Soter is a Savior. Soteros is Jesus is our Savior.
11:01: That's a term that's frequently used, especially in the pastoral epistles, Titus and places like that.
11:08: And so, soteriology is the study of God's work of salvation.
11:14: It's not how man saves himself. It's not how God provides salvation. It is
11:20: God's action of saving his people. And so, to establish that, we begin in Romans chapter 8, and we have what is known in verses 28 through 30 as the golden chain of redemption.
11:35: And obviously, we could spend a tremendous amount of time on that, but you need what you need to focus on.
11:40: I'm going to hit the high points, the things that you want to communicate to somebody else to make sure that they have a foundation upon which to hear what is being said in chapter 9 itself.
11:52: And so, when you consider the fact that many Christians see Romans chapter 8 as the pinnacle of Christian revelation, especially as you get toward the end of the chapter.
12:04: You know, who will separate us from the love of God? There is this tremendous, it's almost like Handel's Hallelujah Chorus in scriptural form.
12:13: When you consider what's being said here, it truly is dealing with tremendous themes, but it does so in the sense of what
12:21: God is accomplishing. And so, you have that golden chain. And God causes all things to work together for good to those who love
12:29: God. And He says, to those who are called according to His purpose. And you might want to say to someone, we need to be very careful that we listen to the audience and that we listen to the direct objects of verbs.
12:43: Now, you might not want to say that because unfortunately, in our day, there may be a lot of people who don't know what a direct object of a verb is.
12:50: I'm old enough that I had some really strict, very strict, I'll stop with the nodding of the head already, some very strict
12:58: English teachers. And they made sure that we understood what verbs were and what direct objects were and indirect objects and all the rest of that fun stuff when it comes to English grammar.
13:10: And so, you might turn folks off when you talk about the subject of direct objects, but in reality, it's very important because when we look at what we have here in Romans chapter 8 in the golden chain,
13:23: God is the one who is acting and we need to see who is being acted upon.
13:30: What is the direct object of His actions? And so, for example, we have this people that are mentioned here.
13:38: He mentions those who are called according to His purpose.
13:44: There's a specific people here. There's a specific audience. This isn't just some vague type of, well, whoever wants to get involved.
13:52: God is the one who calls these people according to His purpose. And then He says, for those whom
13:58: He foreknew. And I don't know if you want to get into the discussion, but it will almost always end up coming up.
14:05: Please notice something. There is a difference between foreknowledge and foreknowing.
14:12: Foreknowledge is a noun. It's something that God possesses. Foreknowing is a verb.
14:17: It is something that God does. And it has a direct object. For those whom
14:23: He foreknew. And automatically, people start going, oh, that just means God looks down the corridors of time and sees what men are going to do.
14:30: But the problem is, that's not what the term means. And if you have time to go back in the
14:36: Old Testament and talk about what the term to know means, Adam knew Eve. That does not mean that he simply got her business card and her phone number and her address and her email address and so on, friended her on Facebook, that kind of thing.
14:52: When Adam knew Eve, the result was children. And so this is an intimate knowledge.
14:59: This is not merely intellectual recognition of the existence of Eve.
15:06: And there's other places in the Old Testament where God knew Israel. Knew it alone. And in fact, it says, of all the nations, you alone have
15:14: I known so strong is the concept of choosing to enter into relationship there, that some translations don't even bother using the word knew.
15:22: They use the term chose. He chose Israel to enter into relationship with them.
15:28: And this term to foreknow, whatever it means, it has to be an action on God's part.
15:34: And it has a direct object. There's a certain people, those who are called in accordance with purpose, God foreknew them.
15:41: He chose to enter into intimate relationship with them. And as a result, those whom he foreknew, it says, he also predestined to become conformed to the image of his sons that he would be the firstborn among many brethren.
15:56: So here you have that term predestination. Those whom he foreknows, he predestines.
16:03: And he predestines them for a purpose. To be conformed to the image of his son. Well, what does that involve?
16:09: There would be some who would say, all predestination is is that everyone who believes in Jesus will be conformed to the image of his son.
16:16: It's impersonal. It's just an overall choice that if you believe, you will be conformed.
16:21: But that's not what it says. It says he foreknew them and he predestined them for a purpose.
16:28: And that is that they would be conformed to the image of his son. What is involved in being conformed? The image of Christ.
16:34: Well, the entirety of the concept of salvation is involved. Everything is involved. I have to be forgiven of my sins.
16:40: I have to be adopted in the family of God. I have to have that heart of stone taken out and a heart of flesh placed in.
16:46: I have to be made a new creature in Christ. It is all right there. The purpose of God is that when he saves someone, he saves them for a purpose and it is according to his purpose at the end of verse 28.
17:00: And so you have predestined, those whom he predestined, then he called. This is not just some vague calling.
17:06: This is a specific calling because it's the same group that's predestined who is also called. We call this the effectual call.
17:13: That is, God by his spirit draws his people unto himself. Those whom he called he also justified.
17:19: If justification is not a soteriological term, I don't know what it is. I mean, we are in the book of Romans, are we not?
17:27: Are we in the book that chapters 3 and 4, chapter 5 begins, justification by faith.
17:34: This is all about how it is that we have peace with God and that proper relationship with him.
17:41: And those whom he justified he also glorified. That is the final conclusion that is going to be ours.
17:48: It is a certain fact because God is working out his purpose. Here you have the golden chain. And then you have the courtroom.
17:56: The courtroom, beginning in verse 31. What then shall we say these things? If God is for us, who is against us?
18:01: Who is the us? The same audience is all the way through here from beginning to end. He who did not spare his own son but delivered him over for us all.
18:12: And who is the us all? Goes back to verse 28. Those who were called to his purpose, foreknew, predestined, justified, glorified, etc.,
18:19: etc. If God is for us, who is against us? He delivered him over for us all. How will he not also with him, with Christ, freely give us all things?
18:31: And then, if you want to have the specific identification made then, in verse 33, we are told who will bring a charge against the elect of God, against God's elect people.
18:47: So who is this people? The elect of God. You may not like the term. You may not like the phrase. It's right there.
18:53: That's Paul's own terminology. He was not embarrassed to utilize that terminology.
18:58: And so he asks the question. He uses law court language. Who will bring a charge? Who is it who will file charges against God's elect?
19:07: Because God is the one who is the justifier. God is the justifying
19:13: God. He is the one who has declared them to be innocent in his sight. So if the judge has already rendered the verdict in the person of Jesus Christ, who will bring a charge in light of the fact that the judge has already rendered the verdict of innocent based upon the work of Christ?
19:30: And even more than that, when you look at verse 34, who is the one who will bring a charge of condemnation?
19:37: Who is the one who will condemn the elect of God? Christ Jesus, the one who died, rather who was raised again, who is the right hand of God.
19:47: What is he doing? He is interceding in behalf of us.
19:52: He is our intercessor. He intercedes for us. So how can anyone bring a charge of condemnation against the elect of God in light of the fact that the
20:03: Father has declared us innocent, the Son in our place stands before the
20:09: Father, his finished work, this brings back a lot of the images that we had in Hebrews 7 and 9 and 10, so on and so forth, the same idea, the finished work of Christ, our union with Him, standing in the presence of God, therefore how on earth could anyone bring a charge of condemnation against the elect of God?
20:29: And so that then is what brings up this entire section of praise that begins in verse 35.
20:40: Who will separate us from the love of Christ? And we don't have time to go through all of these things, but the point is that when we get to the end of chapter 8, what prompts the questions and what prompts the transition of topic into chapter 9 is this tremendous work of salvation itself.
21:01: This is an esoterological passage, but here's, and this is where it's so important,
21:07: I have found this to be extremely useful down through well, I guess I can use terms like,
21:12: I used to say years, now I can talk about decades, down to the decades in talking to people about this. When you establish the context of a particular passage of Scripture, it makes all the difference in the world, and my dear synergistic friends, my dear
21:27: Arminian friends, my dear friends who like to call themselves biblicists or whatever else, it is almost painful to listen to them try to remove these texts from being distinctly esoterological and to try to find some way of getting around what is being said in these texts.
21:47: It really is painful. When we establish the context, we give ourselves a basis for a meaningful presentation.
21:55: And how do we do so? Well, when we get into chapter 9, what takes place here? Well, the objection, obviously, came to the
22:06: Apostle Paul over and over and over again. Okay, Paul, that sounds wonderful. Oh, that sounds great.
22:12: You're talking about all this stuff that God has done. Oh, that just sounds fantastic. There's just one little problem,
22:18: Paul. You are a minority of the Jewish people who believe this.
22:24: You represent a tiny little group. The majority,
22:30: I mean, does Gamaliel believe this? Let's look at the great leaders, the great rabbis in Jerusalem who know the law backwards and forwards.
22:43: They don't believe this. They're not jumping on board with you. Yeah, there's been a few priests over here.
22:48: But look, most of the people who are giving you problems are Jews. So, Paul, if this is what
22:57: God has always intended to do, if this is the fulfillment of all of these promises, what gives?
23:04: How come the majority of the Jewish people reject the message that you're presenting?
23:11: And so Paul begins in those first five verses of chapter 9 to say, you need to understand.
23:17: I love my kinsmen according to the flesh. I am not lying despite the harsh things
23:26: I've had to say about my enemies amongst the Jewish people. I could wish myself to be accursed, to be anathematized, separated from God if it would just result in their salvation.
23:38: I mean, the privileges that they have. Consider the privileges. To whom belongs the adoption of sons and the glory and the covenants and giving the law and the term that's used here is the highest form of worship, the temple worship and so on and so forth.
23:55: They're the ones that receive the promises and theirs are the fathers and in fact the greatest privilege that is theirs is that from whom is the
24:05: Christ according to the flesh who is God over all blessed forever. I mean, the son entered into human experience through the lineage of the people of Israel.
24:14: I mean, the Messiah came from them. What privileges are theirs? But that then leads to what
24:22: I believe to be the very key issue. If you do not start here, you will never make heads or tails out of what the rest of chapter 9 is about.
24:32: And what you'll discover, just as with John chapter 6 or any other text, our non -reformed friends, what they do is they're not going to be able to walk straight through this text.
24:46: They cannot follow the author. They have to anticipate what he's going to say, come up with some other kind of concept, try to read it in, maybe jump to something later on, then read it back into it.
24:57: They cannot just walk through the text with the author. Because if you start with verse 6, the rest of the chapter is going to make perfect sense.
25:09: If you try to jump into the rest of the chapter and say, well, this came from the Old Testament here and that came from that, and so I'm going to set up all these contexts and then come back to verse 6, you're going to end up with a real mess on your hands.
25:22: But it is not as though the word of God has failed. See, Paul knew.
25:29: Paul knew what the objections were. He had heard them over and over and over again. It is not as though the word of God has failed.
25:37: He had heard that in public debate, I bet you in Ephesus and places like that.
25:43: He had heard rabbis saying, Paul, you're saying God's word has failed. You're saying the promises have been abrogated.
25:52: He says, no. You need to understand something. They are not all
25:59: Israel who are from Israel. It's literally, for not all the ones from Israel, these are
26:12: Israel. Now, you can put the term descendant in there if you wish. For they are not all
26:18: Israel who are descended from Israel, nor are they all children because they're Abraham's descendants, but through Isaac your descendants will be named.
26:26: So, what is the point? I mean, if you ignore
26:32: Paul's own setting up of what he's going to illustrate, are you really, really trying to understand him?
26:42: Are you really trying to understand what he's communicating? Here's the question.
26:48: What does he mean when he says, they are not all Israel who are descended from Israel? Well, this is something that the objector, it's always good to know what the objector is objecting to, this is something the objector would have had a hard time arguing with because the entire history of Israel, as Paul is going to demonstrate, had shown us the reality that just being a part of the direct lineage, just being able to trace something back to Abraham, was not enough.
27:18: There were many times where God said the promise goes this way, not that way.
27:25: And he's going to give illustrations. And what's he illustrating? That God has the right to determine freely by his own purposes for his own glory exactly how his promise is going to be fulfilled.
27:43: Well, what promise? Well, there are many people saying, well, this isn't just about salvation. This is about much more than that.
27:50: Well, that's true. It isn't just about salvation. It is about much more than that. But it includes salvation.
27:58: That's where our friends basically jump off the ship and try to say, this has nothing to do with salvation.
28:05: It has nothing to do with salvation. It has to do only with Israel being called to bring God's message to the nations and positions of service and so on and so forth.
28:15: But, the problem is that ignores the reality that to be used of God in that way, to have the proper relationship with him, well, what did
28:25: David you know, David's heart had to be changed. There had to be that relationship with God.
28:31: In fact, if you remember, what do you get right at the end of this chapter, but that same terminology used over and over again by the prophets, the remnant, the remnant, the remnant.
28:44: Notice, for example, in verse 27, Isaiah cries out concerning Israel, though the number of the sons of Israel be like the sand of the sea, it is, what?
28:54: The remnant that will be saved. God had always had his elect people.
29:03: He always had that remnant. Even in the darkest days of Israel, where apostasy was everywhere, he had his remnant.
29:12: And it was a remnant, as he will remind us in chapter 11, by grace. God was accomplishing his purpose.
29:21: And so, what is the question that is being answered by the apostle here? The question is,
29:27: Paul, why are there so many Jews that say no to Jesus as Messiah? Does that not mean that the word of God has failed?
29:35: Are you not substantively changing the promises that God made to Israel?
29:42: And Paul's answer is going to be, God has always been free. The history of Israel shows this.
29:50: And this willingness of God to save that remnant, to draw them unto himself, to justify them, to adopt them, to forgive them.
30:01: This is all satirological language. To have mercy upon whom he has mercy and to harden whom he hardens.
30:08: The history of Israel itself shows that God has always operated in this way.
30:14: Therefore, you have no stance. You have no place to stand to object to the fact that God has chosen to now save, continue to save that remnant, but he has now brought that entire message to the whole world,
30:30: Jews and Gentiles alike. And the illustrations that come after this fulfill that specific objection.
30:40: And fulfill Paul's purpose in answering it. If you don't start there, then you're going to end up with all sorts of confusing stuff about, well, this is down Malachi someplace and this is over here and this is about Israel and that's about Egypt and you're just left completely lost as to what
30:58: Paul's point is. That is why some of you have read a book that I wrote many years ago, many years ago now, called
31:05: The Potter's Freedom. And one of the amazing things I was responding to,
31:11: Dr. Norman Geisler's book, Chosen but Free, and one of the amazing things was there was never a single place where Dr.
31:19: Geisler went through Romans chapter 9 to explain what it said. He would address portions of Romans 9 under all sorts of different topics.
31:29: But he can never walk right through the text and what he'd end up saying about one portion would be contradictory to what he said about another portion.
31:37: So he'd chop Romans 9 up and would address it not as one complete argument as Paul presents it but as bits and pieces.
31:48: That obviously is a clear demonstration, a clear indication I'm sorry, of eisegesis, reading something into the text that is not there itself.
31:59: So what's the first illustration he gives? How do you demonstrate that they are not all
32:04: Israel who are descended from Israel nor are they all children because they're Abraham's descendants? Well, what's the first promise?
32:11: Through Isaac your descendants will be named. Through Isaac your descendants will be called.
32:18: Verse 7. And so we know that there was another possible line but it's rejected.
32:28: It's not going to be Ishmael, despite what all the Muslims say today. God has the right to say
32:33: Isaac. Was it because Isaac did something good in God's sight?
32:39: Was it because Isaac was worthy? Because Isaac made himself better than Ishmael or something like that?
32:46: No. Neither the Old Testament text nor anything else would indicate to us it is
32:51: God's freedom to have the line of promise go through Isaac and not through Ishmael.
32:59: So notice the explanation. Notice how many times the Old Testament is quoted in this text.
33:05: It's helpful if you have a translation that indicates that in some fashion. But then what you're going to be given over and over again are apostolic interpretations of these
33:17: Old Testament texts. So, how does Paul interpret? Through Isaac your descendants will be named.
33:23: That is, verse 8, it is not the children of the flesh who are children of God, but the children of promise are regarded as descendants.
33:33: He knows there are other children of the flesh, but there is this promise, and God is in charge of determining to whom that promise is given and to whom it is not.
33:49: And fundamentally, what people don't like about Romans chapter 9 is God gets to make that decision, not man.
33:56: God makes that decision, not man. And that is what causes man to rebel and to find ways around this.
34:06: For this is the word of promise, verse 9, at this time I will come and Sarah will have a son. So God had said, sure, you've already got
34:16: Ishmael, but that wasn't my purpose. That's not my plan.
34:21: My purpose is going to stand, and when I return, Sarah is going to have a son. It was a miracle. It took a miracle, but God accomplished it, because God can do things like that.
34:30: But that's not the only illustration he gives. And not only this, verse 10, but there is Rebekah also, when she had conceived twins by one man, our father
34:38: Isaac, for though the twins were not yet born.
34:48: It's almost difficult to translate this, because Paul is bending over backwards to make sure that we understand what it is he is communicating here.
34:58: Before the twins were born, and before they had done anything good or bad, in order that, and then you have
35:12: God's purpose brought out here, in order that God's purpose according to His choice,
35:18: His choice, His will, not man's, but God's, according to His purpose might stand or remain or abide.
35:30: And then he figured, I really need to nail this down, because man will always find a way around it.
35:36: Not from works, but from the calling one.
35:42: The calling one, that's the same root that we have in the term elect, the elect of God, that's the same root that we have in those whom
35:53: He called. So He sets up a complete disjunction.
36:00: It's not by what they did. God isn't going, oh, you know, Jacob, I just really like that guy.
36:08: I don't like macho men like Esau. I don't like hairy hunters and good sportsmen.
36:16: I like accountant types. That seems to be like what he was like, and so I'm against that, and I'm just going to, it had nothing to do with them.
36:28: It had nothing to do at all with what they did. It was not from works.
36:34: Instead, it's from the one, it wasn't from them, it was from God. If you want the answer to the question, why the one over the other, the answer is in God, not in them.
36:45: Not because of works, because of Him who calls. It was said to her before they came along, the older will serve the younger, just as it is written,
36:54: Jacob I love, but Esau I hate. Now, immediately, people are going to object and say, well, wait a minute, wait a minute, what you have in verse 13, and everybody can look at, that's from Malachi 1, that's about nations, and that means,
37:09: Paul's argument goes out the window, but if you allow the apostle to determine what these texts mean, if you allow the apostle to interpret his own meaning, what is he saying?
37:23: God had the freedom to choose Jacob over Esau.
37:31: And I've said it many times before, I'm going to say it again now, you've heard it before, I know it's nothing new, but I hope you have heard it with the fullness of your heart.
37:41: If someone can read verse 13, and all the stuff we'll talk about tonight, but, well, you know, when you use hatred and love, that's just to choose someone over someone else, it doesn't have anything to do with hatred, and look,
37:54: I don't have any problem with the fact that when Jesus said, you know, hate your father and mother, he didn't actually mean that you were to walk up to your father and mother and slap them around and call them names and so on and so forth,
38:03: I understand that. But, all of that is just a way to get around one amazing reality.
38:12: And that is, I firmly believe that if what bothers you about verse 13 is
38:20: Esau I hated, you don't know what you need to know, biblically, about the sin of man.
38:29: What should amaze any truly literate biblical Christian is not
38:35: Esau I hated. What should amaze you is Jacob I loved.
38:42: And that's the problem. Because, you see, we live in a day where the holiness of God has been so completely watered down to a humanistic level.
38:54: His absolute otherness has become so empty in the minds of many that the whole idea is, well, of course,
39:03: Jacob I loved. And Esau I loved. And everybody I loved. Because God is omnibenevolent.
39:11: Pharaoh I loved. This is the God that they have. And I just want to go, ok, all the...
39:21: I understand God is love, but He's also a person. And you and I don't respect anybody who just dances through life going,
39:32: I just love everybody. I love my wife. And I love your wife too.
39:38: I love my children. I love your children too. And I love people who break into my house and try to kill my wife.
39:45: I don't know what to do. I can't defend her because I can't make a choice because I love everybody equally. We lock those people up.
39:57: And yet that is the God that so many people try to say is found in Scripture. Omnibenevolence means peanut butter love.
40:05: It's just slapped all over everything. There's no choice, no purpose. It's completely disconnected from every other attribute of God including
40:14: His holiness and His wrath. And once you've come up with that kind of perspective, you will not make heads or tails out of what is being said in this text.
40:23: Or in any place else in the Bible for that matter. What should amaze the biblically literate
40:30: Christian is Jacob I loved. That's what should amaze anyone.
40:37: But unfortunately in our day it does not. Well, verse 14. What shall we say then?
40:44: There is no injustice if God is there. May it never be. Now again, you must listen to the objector.
40:50: Allow the objector to have his say and to say, why is Paul raising this objection? If he's not talking about God's absolute freedom apart from Jacob and Esau, what they did to choose
41:03: Jacob over Esau, that God is absolutely free in the giving of His grace to His creatures.
41:08: He's under no compulsion one way or the other. He's free. If that's not what he's saying then why raise the objection?
41:15: Because the objection is what? That's unjust. That's unjust. He chose
41:21: Jacob over Esau before Esau ever had a chance is the objection.
41:27: Well, if you are making the objections that the apostle is responding to, that means you're opposed to the apostle.
41:35: And that's where the vast majority of our friends are. They are making the exact objection that the apostle himself makes.
41:42: And Paul's answer is may it never be for he says to Moses I will have mercy on whom
41:52: I have mercy. I will have compassion on whom I have compassion. So what does he do?
41:57: Well, he jumps back to what people do. That's Exodus chapter 33. It's where God sovereignly chose to reveal himself to Moses in a special and personal fashion.
42:07: And God gets to choose who he does this with. I will have mercy on whom I have mercy. I will have compassion on whom
42:12: I have compassion. This is God's freedom. This is God's right. And so the apostle quotes this and then he gives us his own apostolic interpretation.
42:25: And what's amazing to me is people run back to Exodus 33 and they'll do in -depth word studies and they'll talk about the
42:31: Hebrew and the Ugaritic and everything else and ignore the fact that the next verse is Paul's own interpretation of why he quotes that text.
42:39: You gotta start there. It's fine to go back to Exodus 33 but not if you're trying to find a way around Paul's own teaching.
42:49: What's his interpretation? So then it does not depend on the man who wills or the man who runs but literally verse 16 but upon the mercying
43:01: God because see to mercy is a verb in Greek.
43:07: We talk about having mercy. It's something God does. He mercies. And so I don't know how much clearer it can be.
43:16: It is not, verse 16, it does not depend on the man who wills. Well what are we talking about here?
43:24: When has the topic changed? We're talking about the freedom of the extension of God's grace to Jacob.
43:35: We have been talking about the demonstration of who the elect of God are. We've been talking about why it is that not all who are
43:42: Israel are Israel. And now we have the quotation from Moses about mercy and compassion.
43:49: So what is the so then it does not depend? People will say well this is just so it does not depend on whether you're going to be used by God in ministry.
43:59: Well that happens to be true but that's not enough because it's not just oh poor
44:05: Esau he didn't get to do some of the neat things that Jacob did. No Esau was rejected.
44:12: Esau was not a part of the covenant people and the promises that were given to them. So it does not depend on the man who wills.
44:20: The willing of the man. It's not dependent upon the man who runs, who strives. What is it dependent upon?
44:28: The mercying God. The mercying God. One other illustration. He continues on verse 17 for the scripture says to Pharaoh for this very purpose
44:37: I raised you up to demonstrate my power in you and that my name I proclaim throughout the whole earth. Now here he really throws a monkey wrench into the systems of thought trying to get around this because Pharaoh Pharaoh's not a part of the lineage of Abraham.
44:52: Now he's talking about specifically raising up a specific individual. It has specific fulfillment.
44:58: You might be able to say oh well he's just talking about Egypt as a whole. Well yeah. Egypt as a whole suffered.
45:04: But he raised up Pharaoh specifically for this very purpose to demonstrate my power in you and that my name
45:14: I proclaim throughout the whole earth. And the fact of the matter is my friends the reason that a lot of people don't like this text is very easy.
45:24: Their priority is not that God's name and power be made known. If your priority is man's will and man's abilities and all that kind of western individualism this text is just going to really turn you off.
45:43: Or you're going to try to find some way around it. The fact is God has a purpose and he wishes to demonstrate his power.
45:52: And if you do not agree that God is righteous and holy to demonstrate his power especially in light of the fact that Pharaoh is the head of an idolatrous nation that's worshiping false gods and suppressing the knowledge of God and this is right and just that he should bring punishment upon idolaters if you don't agree with that I don't think you're really ready to be dealing with Romans 9 in the first place.
46:19: But there's what he says. And so what's the apostolic interpretation? So then he mercies whom he desires and he hardens whom he desires.
46:31: Direct parallel. Absolute direct parallel in the original language. You cannot get around what he says in verse 18 therefore whom he desires he mercies and whom he desires he hardens and he uses the same
46:50: Greek term that is used the hardening of Pharaoh back in the Exodus story in the
46:55: Greek Septuagint. Now see the Jewish objector cannot object to that because they've told that story over and over again every single
47:03: Passover meal. They've told the story of what happened to Pharaoh and God had the right to do so.
47:11: Now how do we know this is exactly what he's saying? Verse 19. My time has has fled me past but I will be very quick.
47:18: You will say to me then why does he still find fault? For who resists his will? You must allow the objector to speak.
47:29: Why does he still find fault? For who resists his will? If what you're saying is that God's will is behind all this.
47:35: If what you're saying is that God is behind all this. That his will and power is involved. Then how can he judge anyone?
47:42: How can he judge anyone? On the contrary who are you? And have you noticed how many singulars there are?
47:49: Not much about nations here. Who are you O nation? No. Who are you O man?
47:55: Who answers back to God? The thing molded will not say to the molder why did you make me like this?
48:01: Will it? Or does not the potter have a right over the clay to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for common use?
48:09: Now again this is where people will be offended. Because mankind who especially is brought up in the world today thinks that we are autonomous.
48:18: That we have all power. We get to define what our gender is and what love is and what the world is.
48:24: We are the center of all things. In the biblical world view that is not true.
48:31: We are the pot made by the potter. And the potter has the right over the clay to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for common use.
48:42: If that is not talking about the freedom of the potter to do as he pleases and what is pleasing to him,
48:48: I don't know what it's about. Or does not. Think about that.
48:53: What if God, although willing to demonstrate his wrath and to make his power known. I stop once again.
48:59: Does anyone care about that today? Does anyone care? Is it on anyone's radar screen?
49:05: Is it on anyone's priority list? That God would demonstrate his wrath and to make his power known?
49:13: What if God, although willing to demonstrate his wrath and make his power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction?
49:22: And people want to point out oh, they prepared themselves. But the parallel is between the honorable vessels and the dishonorable vessels.
49:29: And the one potter made them both. You're just ignoring Paul's intention when you make that kind of distinction.
49:37: And he did so to make known the riches of his glory upon vessels of mercy which he prepared beforehand for glory even us whom he also called not from among Jews only but also from among the
49:47: Gentiles. There's his argument. There's God's freedom. What if God was willing to do this?
49:55: How can you object to it? The objector has been silenced. The objector has been silenced.
50:03: Because then he goes on, as we pointed out earlier, and talks about the fact that I will call those who are not my people, my people.
50:09: This goes back to Hosea, lo ami in ami. It's the fact that there are going to be people who did not think they had any opportunity of being the people of God.
50:18: And they're going to be called the people of God. He's brought the Gentiles in. He's simply continuing to exercise the freedom that he's always had, that he's shown over and over again throughout his dealings with mankind.
50:30: So there's no objection to be made whatsoever on the basis of well, it looks like the
50:35: Jews, they're rejecting this message. God has always had the freedom to bring his promises to bear.
50:44: Individually and corporately. Individually and corporately.
50:49: Just as it was individual with Pharaoh and yet corporate upon Egypt. Both are true.
50:56: You cannot simply say one is true and the other is false. You can't break them apart. Here the objector has been silenced.
51:04: That remnant according to grace continues on. God has the freedom to save as he sees fit.
51:12: Does it include all of salvation? Including call to service and everything else? Yes, but it must start with that first thing and that is drawing his people into relationship with himself.
51:24: Then he uses them as he sees fit. So when you walk through the text, when you allow it to speak for itself, its power is overwhelming.
51:35: Its power is overwhelming. But so often that's not what you end up being allowed to do.
51:44: So this evening the Lord giving us opportunity we'll look at some of the ways. Because obviously there are many systems of theology that say no, no, no.
51:54: Whatever it means as John Wesley said, whatever it means, it can't mean that. That's what he said.
52:01: That's what he said. That was the sermon that brought about the division between Wesley and Whitfield. Whatever it means, it cannot mean that.
52:10: Where does that come from? Well, that's what we'll talk about this evening. Lord willing, let's pray together. Indeed, our gracious and merciful
52:20: Heavenly Father, we do thank you for this opportunity once again to open your word and though the words are familiar to us, once again we are impressed to think and to ponder and to consider your ways and to recognize that you are accomplishing your purpose and that our greatest desire, our greatest desire should be your glorification through the accomplishment of your stated purposes and intention.
52:50: That it's not about us, it's all about you. Lord, we live in a world that is constantly shifting that focus upon us.
52:58: It's all about us. Lord, help us to constantly expose ourselves to your word so that we would think in a way that is honoring and glorifying to you.