Talk With Woman Who "Went to Hell"

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The call is to turn from your sin and put your faith in Jesus. How do you know that to be true?

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Yeah, I've... It's true. What you just said. If you can sit there and say that you feel like you've been forgiven, the only person that can forgive you is yourself.

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That's not true. That's impossible. That is true. You're denying scripture right now. Jesus is the only one with authority to forgive sins.

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I'm not denying scripture because I don't even pay attention to scripture because I I know you don't, and that's why you're lost. But your logic here, your logic here is flawed.

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You have no fucking idea how not lost I am. You're absolutely totally lost. If you were to die today, ma 'am, you would spend an eternity in a place called hell for your crimes against God.

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No, I wouldn't. How do you know that to be true? Because I've been there. You've been to hell? Yes. No, that's a lie, ma 'am.

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No, it's not. No. You don't forgive yourself. That's an impossibility. So if you were to break the law and stand before a judge, right, and he said, no, you're guilty, and you could say, you know what, judge,

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I'm going to forgive myself. You don't have any fucking idea. Yes, we do. I know what it's like to die and come back, and where you go, you die.

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No, but I know someone that does. Yeah. And that's Jesus. And unless you believe in him, you're going to die in your sins.

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We don't want that for you. I don't have any sins. The only sin is not experiencing my life. The one who says he's without sin is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

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Yeah. That's what the Bible says. The Bible says all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. You guys are funny.

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I love it. And you know, you're giving evidence by your hatred towards us right now. I don't hate you. I love you.

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You just cussed us out, ma 'am. I can cuss any time I want to cuss. It has nothing to do with me doing it or not. Out of the abundance of the heart, your mouth is speaking right now.

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What's coming out of your mouth is evidence of what's in your heart. Jesus said if they hated me, that they will hate you.

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I don't think you're ignorant. That's the only thing. According to what standard? Based upon what standard? You're a human being. You're standing there.

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You're breathing. You have breath in you. Your eyes are glowing. You're bright. But I'm not

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God, am I? You're focused. You are. I'm not God, am I? Yes, you are. I'm not.

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You're not going to be accountable to me. You're going to be accountable to him. That's why I'm concerned for you. I don't have to be accountable to anybody but myself.

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No. And knowing the experience. I know that's what you believe. And there's not a he. But you deny Jesus. God is not a he.

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Well, that's how he's revealed to me. Why is he not a he? Why are you so upset? Based on what standard?

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How do you know that to be true? Based on what standard are you sitting here preaching to me for? The objective standard of God's word.

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Right. Yeah. Exactly. Somebody wrote a book a long time ago. And you're following the book.

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Well, the Bible says that God's holy men spoke as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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The Holy Spirit did everything. So, I'm standing where Jesus did in quoting Scripture. We have a choice to make it Christ -like mind or not.

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You don't even know what that means. Yes, I do know what that means. You just said that God is energy. I'm saying that Jesus Christ is

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God come in the flesh. Jesus Christ was a carpenter, a man. Correct. Just like you.

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Correct. Who figured it out. That's not true. No. Yes, it is. He says, like I told you,

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I'll give you one text. Okay. In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was

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God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him. So, what does Moses come in? Well, let me finish. All things were made by him, and apart from him nothing is made that has been made.

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So, that text says that the word, Jesus, was in eternal relationship with the Father in eternity past.

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He took on flesh, and he dwelt among us as a man. So, you're correct in saying that he's a man, but he's also 100 %

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God. He's the only one authorized to forgive sin, and he's the only one authorized to forgive you for your sins against him.

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And Buddha? And that's, Buddha is a man. He died, and he didn't come back to life, Jesus did.

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All other gods are false. All other gods are idols, because the Lord made the heavens. Were you there?

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No, we weren't. Do you understand the concept that possibly what it meant when they said he died and came back?

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Well, that's not true. No, that's just inaccurate. Who's saying it's inaccurate? You really need to study the scriptures to know that, and that wouldn't be true if you examine the scriptures.

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See, ma 'am, the irony in this is that you're saying that our truth claims are invalid because it's based upon our own opinion.

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Exactly. But can't you see the irony in that you're making truth claims based upon your own self -authority?

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Right. So, that's what you're, that's what you're accusing me to do. Do you agree to disagree? No, no, because there's an objective standard of truth, and that's found in God's word alone.

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How do you account for truth if that's not the case? Where does truth come from in your world view? Do you see what

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I mean? It resonates with you correctly. So, let me challenge. If what resonates with me is the rape of small children, am

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I right or wrong? It's what you chose to do when you were here. Is it right or wrong? Right or wrong?

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I don't know. Oh, we need Christ. So, you can't even condemn the child. So, what he's doing should be permissible?

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You know what? But what he's doing is not wrong. You can't judge him. No, I'm not saying that. That's what you're saying.

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You said you have no argument with him. Ma 'am, listen, we care about you. We're out here because we love you.

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We care about your life. This is where your world view has left you. When you reject God's standard, you can't even condemn something as evil as child molestation.

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Because you have no standard to point to. I'm not saying I don't, I'm not saying that's right.

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Okay? I know. But I also, I also know. I also know.

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People come here. These girls, you, the kids.

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Yeah. They have a choice to come here. And to experience this body, this life.

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That's it. No. Yes. The Bible says God is fixed today when he will judge the world in righteousness.

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And that is by the man Christ, Jesus. Vatican and everything else in the government, it's all tied in? No, no.

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Illuminati? Yeah. No, it's not. You guys really just knew spirit? Like, knew spirit.

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Like, sat and meditated for like five hours a day? And looked at the world and the earth and what it is?

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It would mean so much more to you than what you're just saying out of your mouth. How do you know that to be true?

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Because I do it! So it's based upon your own definition of truth. And this is based upon somebody else's book that was written a fricking thousand years ago or so.

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No, it's God's holy true word. You know this God who exists, but you suppress that truth in your own unrighteousness.

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Jesus said man fails to come to the light lest his deeds be exposed. You're warring against the God. Hey, and you know what he's doing?

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He's manifesting his grace and mercy by bringing his sons and daughters out here to tell you to be reconciled to God.

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How do you know that? How do you know that? How do you know that to be true? Because I went through an experience that was incredible.

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So did the Muslim. So did the child molester. Yeah. No. I don't know. I can't say anything.

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So we can't rely on experience for truth. That's my point. Well my point is you have to have your own truth.

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And that's what matters. The child molester's truth? I don't know. Okay. So I want to encourage you. You can't even condemn that grave injustice with your worldview.

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And that's why you need Christ. That's why you need Christ to have a standard that you can point to outside of yourself to condemn such evil.

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You can't do it with your worldview. That's where your rejection of Christ has left you. And that's why you need him.

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I'm pleading with you. Be reconciled to God. Come to Christ for life so that you can actually make sense of truth. Of objective morality.

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Jesus sits with me every single day. Man who has a false Christ. He does not. You do not know him. It's an idol that you've created in your own heart.

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Who is powerless to save you. God was gracious to have you talk with us today.

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He's loving you right now by telling you the truth. Absolutely.

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The Bible says today is a day of salvation. Be reconciled to Christ before it's too late for you. Because if you die today he's going to say depart from me.

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I never knew you. Yeah, that's not true. It's not true.

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You've got to die with Christ. If you can hear me. You've got to be buried with him. And you've got to be raised with him.

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You have to be born again. Well, my car needs to be born again with gas. What's your name? Now we care about you.