- 00:02
- You know, there's a sense in which I sympathize with these eggshell -walking -woke -white folk.
- 00:12
- Shout out to Seiko Woods for coming out with that one. But I do sympathize with them, because it must be so hard to dedicate your lives and your podcasts and writing an entire book, imagine writing an entire book, all trying to sort of weasel out of a very, very easy -to -refute idea.
- 00:34
- Weasel your way into...yeah, whatever. Basically try to present an idea that is so easy to refute for a
- 00:41
- Christian. And I'm not talking about...Pagans are confused about everything, so obviously you can trick Pagans very easily, but Christians, you know, we've got the
- 00:49
- Word of God, and so it must be hard to try to craft this narrative where it's so...there's
- 00:56
- one verse that just destroys your entire prospect, your entire book. That must be a difficult situation to be in.
- 01:04
- And they do it because they want to be cool to the black friends that they have.
- 01:10
- Sometimes I question if these people even have any black friends. I've got black friends, that's how you know I'm not racist. But anyway, here's these two guys, you've got low -budget
- 01:20
- Billy Corgan over here, and then every woke, liberal, white pastor that you can imagine over here, he's basically an avatar for that crew.
- 01:29
- And this is on Woke Preacher Cliffs, and I just want you to hear this, and I address this issue on reparations in my book over the course of...my
- 01:37
- book is, as you can see, it's very thin, and I address a lot of topics, and I address reparations over the course of maybe five pages, because that's really all it needs, because the word of God is so clear on this issue.
- 01:50
- But let's see how they try to muddy the waters. I want to read something from Kevin DeYoung's review of your book, which was quite critical, as you know.
- 02:01
- He says, restitution makes perfect sense... There's a lot of gay energy in this one. I don't know, man.
- 02:07
- This podcast is a little bit too much of that. ...imminently biblical. When the person who cheats pays back the person whom they cheated,
- 02:15
- Zacchaeus did not make restitution with the world or with every poor person in Judea.
- 02:20
- Instead, he sought to restore fourfold anyone he defrauded. So the argument
- 02:26
- I hear from Kevin DeYoung and I hear from other folks on social media is, yes, restitution is imminently biblical and right, but when you are multiple generations removed from both the perpetrators and the immediate victims of the injustice, then it gets too muddled, and there's no way of equitably determining guilt and reparation.
- 02:48
- Therefore, essentially, it's an argument of it's too complicated now, so it's not worth attempting.
- 02:57
- It's too hard. I'm too much of a dum -dum to do it. That's the impression he's trying to give.
- 03:04
- Oh, those fundies, they're just too stupid to figure this out. Let's see what Greg Thompson has to say. On to that.
- 03:10
- Well, I mean, in many ways, honestly. The first is that it's simply an arbitrary claim that he is making, that a generation or multiple generations absolves us of obligation.
- 03:24
- That is biblically and theologically false. He just asserts that. He doesn't defend it, and for the idea that it's too complicated, we're people that believe in the
- 03:32
- Trinity. We're people that believe in the incarnation, the full divinity and full humanity of a being.
- 03:38
- We're people who profess the resurrection of the dead, and that a divine being can be one and three simultaneously in different respects, and what we're talking about as a form of cultural accounting for 400 years is too complicated.
- 03:50
- I think this isn't a form of evasion, and I think that this is part of what we tried to say in our response to Kevin.
- 03:57
- If the Christian church wanted to try to figure this out, if we wanted to try to give ourselves theologically to it, then we could.
- 04:04
- And so I think the fact of the matter is that the entire review felt like a form of evasion and a dismissal of what
- 04:12
- African American Christians have been saying for hundreds of years. You don't agree with them, so you must be dismissing them. You can see, he's trying to come up with this idea that if you disagree with what they say theologically, well, then you're just dismissing black people.
- 04:24
- You're just a racist, dude. You're just racist. By the way, this is not the issue. It is very complex, and it is almost cost -prohibitively complex.
- 04:35
- Imagine the amount of resources that would have to go into figuring out who's been a slave in the past, and how they relate to people today, and all the intermixing that's happened, and now
- 04:44
- I'm a little bit slave, a little bit slaver. It's very complex. The cost would be very great, and it probably wouldn't even be worth it, even if it was a good thing to consider doing.
- 04:58
- But you see, Greg just assumes it's a good thing to consider doing, but unfortunately—well, actually fortunately, but unfortunately for someone who's trying to be a weasel—the
- 05:08
- Bible actually does say that the generations matter in this issue.
- 05:14
- Does it absolve you of your sin because it happened generations ago? Well, it's not your sin if it happened generations ago.
- 05:21
- The Bible makes that quite clear. Here's what Deuteronomy 24, verse 16 says, and this is why
- 05:27
- I must have a little bit of sympathy for these guys, because he writes a whole book where one verse just dominates him.
- 05:36
- Ever hear that scripture, it shuts every mouth? This is what it's talking about. This is mic drop.
- 05:41
- When someone writes a book on reparations, this is God dropping the mic. Here's what it says. A person shall be put to death for their father's—a person shall be put to death for his own sin.
- 05:59
- Everybody is responsible for their own sin. You're not responsible for your father's sin.
- 06:06
- Your children are not responsible for their father's sin. That's what it is saying. So, the generations actually do matter.
- 06:13
- Does it absolve you of the sin from generations ago? Does the fact that generations have passed mean that the sin of the past is absolved?
- 06:21
- No. The only thing that washes away sin, of course, is the sacrifice of Jesus Christ.
- 06:27
- So does it absolve you of the sin of the past? If you sinned in the past and then generations passed, does it absolve you?
- 06:34
- No. But the generations in the future don't pay for the sins of the past if they didn't do those sins.
- 06:42
- So that's the issue. It's not that it's too complex, although it would be overly complex.
- 06:48
- It's not that people don't want to do it. Well, actually, it is that, because it's not biblical.
- 06:54
- We don't want to sin. So there you go. Anyway, that's it. Hope you find this helpful.
