Josh Buice on the Dividing Line

Greetings and welcome to the dividing line. I feel like i'm like uh way out of out of well i just don't like having a camera on me at any time at all to be honest with you. And i think the majority of the people watching don't like that very much either.

The only reason we do a video cast is when i show stuff and and things like that because otherwise i would i would just sort of say yeah let's not bother with that. And we didn't for many many many years and that was probably good.

But anyway welcome to the dividing line. You're going. Wait a minute. You did one yesterday pastor tom buck was in and you all talked about all sorts of stuff but nothing overly controversial. Uh and this is true um but today you'll notice that i'm i'm wearing one of my uh g3 shirts you know and i try to avoid wow you managed to move that.

Well that's pretty cool. How you can do that without actually being in here that that's impressive. Uh that's that's that's that's cool. Anyway i'm wearing one of my g3 shirts because uh g3 is coming up again.

See there's the little thing there and they've got one. It's not the best picture of me but anyways there is uh there's a picture of many people uh on the thingy bobby there and there it says g3 so that's big enough.

Um but uh january sounds like it's a million years away from now but uh given that i will be traveling another 65 ,000 miles or so between now and then uh but uh no it'll be coming up much faster than then.

And i really like the fact that my picture is is right next to michael kruger. Um because that just makes me much smarter uh but then it's right above todd friel so it's that'll end up on youtube somewhere.

G3 Conference Planning and the Purpose of the Event

But anyway uh um this this uh i would i always when i'm thinking about what i'm going to wear uh because i used to i didn't have to worry about what i wore uh before rich put these cameras in here and stuff i didn't even have to give it a second thought.

But now i do. And so like i don't generally wear like my ebtc shirts or my g3 shirts when i'm gonna be talking about really controversial stuff because i there are so few people who will even be seen in the same room with me anymore that i i have to hold on to the few that will be.

So i've just got to be sort of careful you know rich has to because he's stuck you know it's just it's it. He's sort of doomed but he's he's stuck with it but other people don't. So why would i be wearing it.

Because the boss man's here and uh and and he is sort of the boss man and he's got. I knew he would have a g3 shirt too because you have how many g3 shirts do you have. I have a number of them. You have a number of them.

I have a number of them. But i always get the year afterwards. So so did this year you went with colored um uh stuff. Yes we did. So i get the hand-me-downs in january of this year right. You might end up with this shirt.

So so so josh josh bice. Now what's what's what's the what's the background of that. Because it shouldn't that's that's not. Is that french. You know uh we came from the netherlands. Netherlands. Yeah.

So that's uh it's because that's not i bet you you hear every possible permutation. Yeah it's not to be confused with james p boys or james mcgumber boys. That's right. Or buis or buis or buick or anything else.

Buicky. There are a lot of different ways there. Uh yeah you bet i bet you have to spell it almost every time uh when checking into a hotel or something. But um when did you start the uh the g3 conferences.

We started the g3 conference uh shortly after i came back home to serve the church where i serve presently uh in atlanta georgia just west of atlanta georgia. Um we just wanted to start a theology conference.

Um so it was just before 2013. This was uh 2011 we started praying through the process of starting a good theology conference in the atlanta area and so just praying through what that looked like we came up with the name g3.

Uh just gospel grace glory. We wanted everyone to know from the beginning. This was a theology conference. Uh this is not a pep rally. This is not something you go to to just hang out with religious people.

This is we're going to get down to business. We're going to have 10 to 15 main sessions sermons breakout sessions included. Um you gotta be able to sit around for. Yeah yeah i mean i'll sit around for we have a reputation of being very fast paced.

Um so we like to try to fix that a little bit but at the same time we want to maximize as much as we can through it you know through those three days especially because you're trying to get people to come from long distance.

Absolutely so that was 2011. 2013 was the first year we expected to have a few people come from just outside of the atlanta area maybe a couple states just in the southeast. Uh our sanctuary will seat at our church roughly i mean if you just squeeze people in maybe 800 and we had a waiting list of people to get in.

So we looked at the registration list and it was people not just from the southeast but it was from literally all over the country and outside of the country. And so that was the first four years until 2017 the reformation conference we moved away from the campus as you know to go to the convention center over by the airport where we had roughly 2500.

Right right. Yeah and uh so uh i was at the church twice twice and then this year at the conference center and we did our first pre-conference debate this year. Well attended very well attended very well attended uh with trent horn of catholic answers and um we're we're we're trying to arrange uh a a pre-conference debate this time too yeah and there aren't too many people you can get that do debates very often.

That's uh we're a we're a very odd lot yeah strange group yeah so i'm glad you put up with with the odd odd folks but uh so there's differences going to a convention center i mean aside from the fact that you get a whole lot more walking in yeah uh much much uh much healthier when you get when you finish off because uh but you also uh get to uh have a whole lot more a display area so you had a huge huge number how how many uh people the exhibitors.

Exhibitors, Ministry Resources, and the Move to a Convention Center

Yeah the exhibitors uh i think we had maybe 65 or so and um again that's just word of mouth and that type of thing so if we really pushed it we could have quite a number more but again i mean we the the goal of the exhibit hall is not to just see if we can get 200 of them.

I mean because we obviously could it's to put before people trustworthy resources and good ministries that's the key. Yeah yeah i spent a lot of time over there we were set up next to michael fallon and the sovereign sovereign folks and uh with whom we do a tremendous amount of work and uh um you know as soon as we'd get in there then the line would start forming and you start talking with folks and uh and uh so that that's that's great and uh but we took up a lot of a lot of space a lot of room and uh uh i i just know obviously it's different um to go to the convention it was how how did that change things.

Uh on your end because i mean your your people had to do everything. Yeah they do and that's a huge amount of work to have it on your campus but to even move it away it's still a huge amount of work. Yeah so the you know the church that was the most difficult part of moving to the convention center.

In many ways it was easier for the church because we're not having to do as much work. We wanted to do more than we we were you know we were able to because of the rules and all of the the contracts with food and beverage and all this they they just limit us.

We can't bring in stuff. I mean you get a you get a shepherd's conference and you walk out the doors and you have a thousand people standing there ready to uh you know shine your shoes and hand you an ice cream cone.

You know i mean it's just and so so we're limited as to what we can do. Um at a convention center so that was the most challenging aspect because the church really sees it as a ministry and then you know an opportunity to invest in other believers other churches pastors and so for us that was a really it was a difficult thing for us.

We had a lot of conversations amongst the family you know so to speak within the church to just say look you know we can still accomplish ministry just at a different venue. That's what we're seeking to accomplish.

I see 18 pictures here. Not all of those are main session speakers. Some of them will be just speaking in breakout sessions but trying to uh just maximize the the time. You know over those three days that's just that's just a lot of people.

Yeah it is i i don't i i just i don't go to another conference that has that many people. Yeah well once again we're just trying to do the best that we can as far as being good stewards of the ministry that the lord's entrusted to us.

We want to have as many people come many opportunities. Well again another thing that you didn't mention is the reason you have i think three or four of those will be speaking in the first annual spanish conference this year.

Yeah i just saw the spanish january 17th. Yeah so all day wednesday before the potential debate that you would do on wednesday evening would be all day on wednesday would be in spanish. So q and a we're not doing we're not doing the debate in spanish.

Yeah. No no we're not going to do the debate in spanish. I may live in phoenix but i'm not doing the debate in spanish because i don't actually speak spanish. I german really doesn't do much good here in uh in in phoenix.

But that was what i chose to study. It's great in wittenberg. Yes it is. I will be able to uh there's this there's this great uh pasta place in wittenberg and um you know i was just in right a few weeks ago and let's just say the the the food that was generally available wasn't my favorite.

So uh i hit this pasta place and they actually got to know me over this over the course of the week and um so if we go there i can get you through the menu. Good good. Uh because they don't do they don't do english real well yeah i need a translator.

You need a translator. So so uh the spaghetti bolognese is really really good very good really really good. Um and not overly and not overly expensive either which is sort of sorry nice but anyway um so we've done a couple conferences but we don't do them anymore because they're too much work.

Conference Work, Ministry Stewardship, and the Spanish Track

Yeah lots of work. I mean i see you at the end of this and it's it's sort of like when somebody uh when somebody well wait wait wait wait wait wait not not that rich not yet hold on i'll let you know um it's almost like when somebody finishes a marathon.

Yes you know i've done both uh and i know uh you you're a very good runner unlike me who i just sort of plod along but um get you on a bike and maybe we'll be even but uh um but uh you the amount of work is just astounding.

So why. Well again the conference is not to um it's not for us it's not for me it's not for you know namesake or anything of that nature. It's it's a ministry it's to invest in and to further sound biblical theology and methodology in a local church.

So we obviously want to have the benefits in our local church but we want to further that agenda within the you know the evangelical church or southern baptist churches and various other churches who come because you see the g3 conference is not just uh southern baptist i mean we have presbyterians who come we have reformed baptists we have non-denominational we have sbc so we want to see the local church to you know become healthy and so that's the ultimate goal.

But again i just need to be very clear i did not i don't do all of the g3 conference work. Um i have a really oh of course i have a wonderful church and a wonderful staff wonderful elders. We all know where the buck.

Yeah yeah well i mean i mean i have i have a lot of help behind the scenes. I couldn't do it on my own so unlike a marathon where it's like you're the only guy that can finish this um i i do have a lot of help now vody and i can rock the bow ties.

Yeah um but i've i've tried with steve yeah no there is i am now 100 convinced that steve sleeps yeah in his suit i think so he does i've watched him pack before he has a certain routine that he goes through.

And i got i got some new steve lawson stories from wittenberg. Yeah i really did. I can't tell you i'm there though i'll tell you later. They're great. I thought though since i turned 40 today i can start wearing bow ties now.

Yeah well no wait a minute. Yeah not that was an old joke i think. But there there was a shot in there. Yeah because i i don't do you think that has something to do with with h have you told vody this do you realize what vody could do to you without you even seeing it coming.

I would say that with the door open because you figure you might be able to outmove him. Have you seen how fast that man can move i can run i can run longer. So i'll just get up. Well that's true that's true.

He can't catch. That's true that's true. Wow okay that's very that's very well i i should mention that today is a special. I mean we we are just so deeply honored that on today this special day. Yeah your birthday.

Birthday Gift, Protein Bars, and Turning 40

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Uh protein bars. They are sinfully delicious wonderful. And so we we felt you had to have something. So there you go there's your um there's there's no one else could do but we've we've done after all you've done for me all these.

Yeah we give you a protein bar with a candle in it. Right. What would my one wish be. Yes yes. What would my one wish be. Yeah yeah he's thinking about it so i was gonna wait for you to sing and then i would know well you know that would that would probably lose our entire audience if we did that.

So yeah that would break youtube. Yeah yeah. So there you go there you go. Thank you guys you're most welcome. Yeah have you ever had muscle milk. Uh chocolate. Yeah it's good really good. Yeah they protein you know it used to be you sort of felt like you were really doing it because i'm eating my protein and it's horrible but it's good for me.

And now it's just sort of like i'm eating my protein and it's like a candy bar. It's just so good. It's just disgusting it really is. And that was not a paid advertisement by the way i want everyone to understand i am not a paid spokesperson for either muscle milk or quest bars.

Um both of them are just ridiculously good. However in fact you take a quest chocolate chip cookie dough bar 15 seconds in the microwave and it is it's not right. Yeah it's not right. 20 grams of protein.

It's just awesome. Only 190 calories. That's a little bit more than 190 calories. I know that you probably are counting them. Well we have about 26 hour drive home with 13 of us seven children so uh yeah it'll it'll it'll go it'll be used it'll help me.

So so there you go. So 40 i hate i hate to point this out. Yeah um but in a couple weeks i have my 35th wedding anniversary. Nice. So um that that gives you idea. Yes it does. Uh i ain't old enough to be your papa.

Yeah but but i ain't that far away. Yeah there you go. Ain't that far away. So 40 is nothing. Enjoy enjoy your youth. Um i am currently um engaging in that horrific activity of trying to get ready for uh my my july um rides yeah and so uh what is the date today 14th.

I have less than a month. Yeah until uh the triple bypass yeah which is 120 miles 10 ,500 feet of climbing between 7 ,500 and 12 ,000 feet above sea level. Yeah and the next weekend is the assault of mount evans on the rivets for three hours to 14 ,130 feet above sea level and so you ride at like three o 'clock in the morning.

Is that right. Yes yes yes well i'm gonna ride outside. Yeah so i mean you told me that i thought man that's that's crazy. And you know i know phoenix is hot but then when i arrived here um wasn't that bad.

Well i mean i'm well no i mean the heat wasn't uh but i got up early i said i'll get up at 5 30 and go run and it's like sun's already up. It's been up for an hour or. Well no no the sun's rising at 5 30 right now.

Yeah well i mean it was really really light. I mean the sun was already up at uh five o 'clock. I could see the sun at five o 'clock little early because i timed that very very accurately. But the point is once the sun hits you you you've only got there's this there's this awesome scene from uh the chronicles of riddick where this uh this guy named a purifier walks out into the sun on this one planet and it just blows him away.

He just lights up. That's phoenix about a year about one hour after sunrise. So if you're going to be riding you need to be getting home about then. Or it's going to start getting ugly. Yeah i mean i think it's just because you guys must be close to the the time zone change the we don't do we don't.

Physical Discipline, Bodily Exercise, and Staying Fit for Ministry

Yeah i mean i know you don't hear. But what i'm saying is when you when you cross over that that time zone that um the the the sun comes up extremely early here for us in atlanta if i go run at 5 30 it's still dark.

I have to use a flashlight. Not here. Oh i have i have i do i do that too. Yeah actually i do run in the dark at times as well. So yeah we're both committed to that kind of thing. I think look i think it's important.

The problem is 15 years from now much more difficult translate translate yourself 15 years in the future. And getting back in the ability to to function at 14 000 feet above sea level is not easy. But why do we do it.

Well some people would say bodily exercise profit is little. That's what the king james says. But that's in comparison to godliness. And i don't know about you. But um when i'm working hard with goals physically yeah i will work hard with goals mentally and spiritually too correct.

And if my body is sluggish um if i don't do something physical at least my goal this year i know everybody looks at me this doesn't look like that. My goal this year is 750 crunches per day for the entire year 275 000 for the year.

I'm actually above that right now. But that's because when you and i go to europe i normally carry a little machine i put together that helps support my neck when i do crunches. Right. I'm not gonna have time to be putting that together and taking it apart with all the different places we're going.

So i'm gonna lose solid two weeks. Yeah right there. So i've got to try to buffer that ahead so i can catch up with it afterwards. But uh you know that kind of stuff if i don't do something like that like on a lord's day morning i will be a slug.

When it comes to preaching or teaching i will be because this body this body this mind they're connected. Yeah. And we i think some christians have a gnostic idea that you know your spirit's out there someplace and and and no it doesn't it doesn't doesn't work that way.

It doesn't. No and just the the nature of the beast as a pastor do a lot of sitting a lot of reading and so if you know it just you just feel better. I think you preach better. I think that you think better if you can stay healthy.

And i'm certainly not in in as good of shape as i have been in years past. But i'm trying to get in better shape and i just think it makes me it makes me better all the way around. I mean in all areas.

And especially now that you've hit the big forum i know it's all downhill from this point. Well it was actually i had a high school teacher that said it was downhill from 18 so that's it. It was really depressing.

But uh no it it trust me it takes more and more work. It's easier to stay in shape than to get back in shape. So i encourage you to continue to do that. We've never run together because i'd slow you down too much.

Yeah you always have an excuse about it being too cold in january. Uh no that not. My friends in ukraine are laughing at that. Because i ran in ukraine at 19 degrees and i saw that. But i do distinctly remember you saying you had to have a treadmill in atlanta because it was so cold.

The one g the first g3 you came to when it and it was. Well i don't run on ice. I don't run on ice. No no i i have goals and so uh torn up knees acls and stuff. No i don't do not run on ice if it's that cold.

I'm not doing that. No. So anyway speaking of which so we've got so january 17th with the spanish 18th to the 20th atlanta georgia. Uh g3 conference .com. Uh people can uh sign up there. And they need to sign up.

They don't. They don't need to be putting themselves on wait lists and things like that. Uh vote he's coming back over steve lawson. Um do you have you have all the things that steve needs ready to go.

The absolutely the burgers without cheese. And what's actually uh only mustard. Yes so it's it's typically a turkey sandwich with sun chips vitamin water. There you go. And i thought i was picky and uh and paul still still plan on being there.

Paul washer's doing uh much better. Uh spoke with him actually just texted uh just a couple of weeks back and he's he's improving uh and so things are going well with him. Yeah. Well i know my dad had a quadruple bypass a couple years ago and was like changing the the it's like it's like refurbishing the you know he's i think coming up on 80 85 now and made a huge difference a huge difference.

But you know the thing that bugs me is i saw him shortly before the heart attack. He was at the tmi symposium that i was speaking at uh before the shepherds conference and it was because he told me what the doctors had said that i didn't see it.

If i if he had walked into that room and he didn't tell me what doctors had said it was i'd have got dude you've got a blockage someplace there's what i can you know i had seen this before. Yeah. Well when someone tells you i've seen the doctors doctors say it's this thing over here then it's like okay fine you know.

And it's like ah but i've been telling him he will tell you at g3 you were there when he walked up to me and i had to i had to steady him because he wanted to tell me what was going on in africa in regards to islam.

And i you've heard you've heard me tell him brother you've got a young daughter. Don't give me the the charles spurgeon i'm going to burn out at a young young age type thing. Um i don't buy it. So i i would i can honestly say i was trying to tell the guy dude at that point i will say we met again the shepherds conference um shortly after the g3 and um he was already canceling things at that point.

Yeah he told me that he was supposed to be i think um he was supposed to be in geneva. I mean uh in vandenberg. Yeah so so there you go. So he was pulling back already at that point but but not fast. Praise god he's doing much better.

Good good. So we look forward to to seeing him. And i would i just can't wait to see him at full strength. Yeah because we we haven't seen paul washer at full strength for a long time. Yeah we really haven't.

And michael kruger um i i know it bugs him when i say this and it's a little bit easier for me to say this because he's younger than i am uh but uh just one of the most brilliant minds in the church today.

Really really is. And i don't know how it fits in how we can make it fit in to the topic but if there's some way to get him to talk about canon issues there there yeah so few people can address that topic and he is just brilliant in that area.

Paul Washer, Michael Kruger, and Early Manuscripts

Yeah he definitely is. He's a gift to the church and we would love to get the two of you to sit up and do maybe a a q a session or just a discussion on these matters. Well especially what he and i could do is is early manuscripts.

Because i'm working on p45 he's done so much work in that whole general area uh that those early manuscripts we could put together we could put together pictures uh you know there's so much great high-end digital photography now of the early papyri and i've just found it's amazing.

Maybe it's just because we have geeks that uh that watch this program all the time. But i've found a lot of christians that are just fascinated. Yeah when they get to actually see the manuscripts instead of a little note at the bottom of the page it says some manuscripts say this there there's p45 there's p66 there's p75 wow p75 and codex sinaiticus both come from the same line they go back into the first century uh in in their text and wow this is amazing stuff and a lot of people you know when when i debated bart bart ehrman he just so condescendingly oh yeah uh says to the whole audience i doubt anyone could really understand what we were saying and it's just like oh yeah uh people really do love it and i was just teaching in the czech republic um and one of the things they wanted me to speak on was the textual critical stuff.

Sure and so there's just so little of that. So it's it's important stuff and we'll get a chance to do that. So there's there's but you're you're you've got a little something to do before g3. Yeah yeah we do and it's only a matter of weeks away literally um and that is we're going to uh to europe and um we haven't i don't have a clue how we're going to handle this stuff.

I have a feeling it's going to be sort of stream of consciousness type thing uh but we're going to be going all over the place and people are going to be looking at you and me to somehow provide some kind of background.

What scares me is you'll frequently have people on these tours that know more about these places than we do. So but we have to look we have to make it look good. Yeah how are we going to do that. Well we're going to study we're going to read.

Okay. Well i've been doing that for a long time but yeah yeah yeah yeah. But still we'll be uh well prepared looking forward to that. It's just going to be a wonderful thing to walk in the footsteps of the reformers.

People say why do you go to europe and walk in the footsteps of the reformers. What's the big deal. I mean it's you know it's the 500th anniversary. Yeah that's a big deal. But why go to all the trouble and go over and make this journey.

Um i think that it's like um you know for instance going to israel or going someplace like that. I mean it puts things into perspective when you think about going to verms in 1521 and you go to uh where luther literally came into verms.

And this i mean the streets are filled with people just want to see this guy and they have to sneak him in and just think about standing at that very place where he gave his stand and he which is now it's just a placard on the ground on the ground you have to get the leaves off of.

Yeah but i mean which which says something about europe as a whole. Yeah dude. Well it does. I mean parking place number 23 and things like that. So that's exactly right. That's exactly right. Well i was just in vittenberg and and you'll be proud of me since there weren't any bikes around.

Um mike abendroth was there and he actually found a bike. But it was one of those you know um but uh i got up every morning i ran. I was the only person that got up every morning and ran. And i by the way i'll be able to show you the smoother areas to run in rather than running those cobblestones is dangerous and not easy on on the body.

But uh you know running past the the castle church and seeing well seeing all the you know they're preparing obviously for the all the lutherans are going to show up. Right. Um things like that but just thinking running past where the where exerge domine was burned.

Yeah okay there was. There's a path that goes right down and and over toward lutherstadt right there and it's just it's like yeah that's that's where it happened that's that's fascinating. And running running past the luther house and realizing that right inside there it's gone now but was the little room that luther had and you can sort of to people to where it was uh though it's not there any longer uh and it's sort of like it all happened.

You know it really happened. And then of course one of the things we're gonna have to keep explaining to people is the fact that you and i probably uh would have been in deep trouble. Yeah in wittenberg by as early as 1525.

Absolutely. Um and that really causes people angst and cognitive cognizant cognitive dissonance dissonance. Um whatever it is uh it's just like no wait a minute how can i how can i enjoy visiting the castle church or the luther house and stuff like that when at the same time what you're basically saying is yeah.

Well when you go if we go to the we go to the varper. Yes. Yeah. And so we'll get to see um where he was hiding. Not only where he was hiding but where a man who refused to have his children baptized was imprisoned in a tiny cell for eight years till he died.

And people go. Well i can't learn from somebody or honor somebody that would have done that. See and that's going to be for me anyways that's a that has to be a constant theme is that we have to learn how to read church history be balanced and allow the people of history to be the people then and not judge them by the standards that we have today.

Or you're not going to find almost anybody in church history that you're going to have a particular love for. Right. Right. I think. And that's one of the the beautiful things about the scriptures if you read how the holy spirit inspired the word of god you see that there's it's not just wonderful things that we see about people like king david we see some really bad things that he did.

And so i think that that's a misconception about people sometimes is they say well you guys are making calvin and luther out to be just these unblemished heroes. You're following them. That is not what we're attempting to do.

Close. Yeah even close. Not even close. No uh we we will. I certainly i bring to any discussion of church history issues things like that. Uh obviously my apologetic concerns. Right. And so folks will probably end up with much more of a education on what rome believed then and now than they may be looking for.

But the reality is if we look at any of our confessions of faith if we look at uh it recently i i taught through the section on the lord's supper in the london baptist confession and almost any of the major sections of the london baptist confession or the west mystery confession will have a specific statement not like the papists say and and the very language is being used forged in a context of controversy.

And if you don't if you don't know what was believed at that time then you're not going to really have much of an understanding of why there was such an emphasis upon this. Or and the scary part is a lot of people today think that what they believe they just simply got from the bible.

When the reality is they've been deeply influenced by what happened in church history. But they don't know it. And if you don't know it then you're controlled by it. If you don't know history then what happened in history controls you and you have no way of filtering it out.

If you know history then you can see where those influences came from. But unfortunately for most people well for most non well including roman catholics that roman catholics like to say we're the champions of church history.

You talk to most roman catholic they have no clue about church history. But but they will say you protestants church history began with martin luther for you in some senses unfortunately for a lot of baptists it actually starts with billy graham.

I mean let's just be honest ourselves um uh that that that's that's the reality. And so uh realize coming to realize that god's actually been building his church. Yes amongst people that dress differently differently than me and and that that spoke different languages than me.

That's one of the things i've loved about games you know i've become a world traveler. I mean i hate to tell you this but one if we i'm not sure where we're flying to. Yeah but if we go through heathrow i'm gonna be waiting for you guys.

Yeah because i'm a registered traveler now. Oh really. Well my my passport eu line straight on straight on through. I'm gonna be speaking at another conference in france just before our tour. So i'm getting the shame.

I'm getting the shame wag finger from the other room. Yeah uh for what i just did so you're going you're going to. I'm speaking at another conference in france just before the tour starts. So i'll meet you guys in berlin.

Okay all right. Well i don't know i'm sure that mike is probably going to be watching this maybe even watching this now. Um but if mike really likes me in fact if he loves me and mike and i have been through a lot together we really have i've known him longer than you have.