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The following program is recorded content created by The Truth Network. It's Matt Slick Live!

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Matt is the founder and president of the Christian Apologetics Research Ministry, found online at karm .org.

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When you have questions about Bible doctrines, turn to Matt Slick Live for answers. Taking your calls and responding to your questions at 877 -207 -2276.

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Here's Matt Slick. Hey everybody, welcome to the show. It's me, Matt Slick, your host of Matt Slick Live.

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Today's date is July 2nd, 2024. I hope you're all having a good day and getting ready for the nice holiday weekend, 4th of July.

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Now, I will not be on the air Thursday and Friday. We're taking the rest of the week off, but I will be on tomorrow.

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If so, if you want to give me a call now is the time or tomorrow, 877 -207 -2276.

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You can also email me info at karm .org. Just put in the subject line, radio comment or radio question.

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There we go, everything's working fine. Alright, so, hey, we could talk about some stuff.

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I did some research on a baptism issue and updated an article today. Talk about that a little bit.

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It was really interesting. We'll get into some other stuff, too, as well. Before we do that, let's get to Buskman from Dayton, Ohio.

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Buskman, welcome, you're on the air. Hey, happy Tuesday to you,

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Mr. Slick. How are you, sir? Oh, I'm alright. A little melancholy, but okay.

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You know, that reminds me of the verses, Matt, that talks about the more wisdom we get and the more gray hair

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I think the Proverbs talk about, doesn't it? It's like I know exactly what you're going through, brother. It's amazing, isn't it?

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Yes, yes, yes, yes. We could whine about our old age and what it means to be fatigued and, you know, what

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I'm working on. I'm trying. Anyway, so what do you got? Thanks for everything that you do,

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Matt. I mean, really, I love you on Truth Talk Radio Network out here in 1065, the

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Toledo -Dayton area, so I just want to say thanks. I told you, brother,

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I would give you a report if you remember I called into the show and said that I was going to go down to a very large

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Pride event that normally is, I mean, really, Matt, it's just gigantic and it's almost like Sodom and Gomorrah.

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The last time I was there, which was 2019, it was, I mean, it was just an

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X -rated show right in public, children walking around. So in preparation of what

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I might see, Matt, I went ahead and contacted our local authorities, the county sheriff, the city police department, sent them letters and such.

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Even contacted, Matt, the organizers of this event through their website, and I said

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I would love to sit down with you and talk Jesus to you via scripture. When I went down,

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Matt, one of the things that caught my eye was the three churches, sir, that were in complete support of LGBTQI plus ideology and perspective.

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I did not talk to any of these women. Matt, all I saw were women.

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Hold on, hold on, hold on. You said three churches, didn't talk to these women.

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So who were these women that you saw? The women, one of them claimed to be the pastor of one of the local churches, and what

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I meant, Matt, was that women were manning, pardon the pun, the booths, the three church representation booths that was at this festival.

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And so at my first observance, I was like, wow, okay, it's all women. And then number two that I noticed was that the predominant sex that was there were women,

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Matt. I thought that to be odd, and the men were all in tail of the women.

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If I saw them walking down the main strip here in this little village, it was the women first and then male first.

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And these were just observations that I met. I was in my Ask Me About Jesus T -shirt that on the back, it said that on the front, and then on the back, it said,

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God loves you so much that he sent Jesus to save you from yourself.

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Do you believe this? That was on the back of my shirt, and I was walking through the crowd,

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Matt. It was awesome. One man did stop. Well, I did talk to one man about the

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Lord Jesus Christ, which was awesome. He did not make a commitment vow, but it was just really good to see him kind of come to light, if you will.

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And I loved those people. I did not have any attitudes of hatred or you're going to hell.

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There was a group down there that was doing that. They had their posters. They had their megaphone.

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They were yelling at people. But when I walked by, Matt, they— When you walked by, they—I think we lost you.

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When you walked by, they— Sorry, my Bluetooth just cut through.

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Yeah, when I walked by, they said, Why do you hate us?

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to the street preachers. And the street preachers said back, Because we don't want you to go to hell.

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We don't— And they didn't yell it, which was odd.

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Yeah, it was amazing their response, how they responded to these people. The other thing I noticed,

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Matt, was this, that they have these pride men dressed up as women playing rock songs.

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Matt, they couldn't get the crowd going. I mean, they tried, but they couldn't get the people up dancing and everything.

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The other thing I noticed was that this little village draws a pretty good crowd anyway. I would say only 1 % more than a regular

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Saturday was there. So I called another friend who'd come down as well, who was going to minister.

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And he ended up—actually, he called me. He said, Bossman, he says, This is a nothing burger down here.

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He says, Everybody's appropriate. The police are everywhere. Everybody was appropriately dressed.

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There was none of that shenanigan going on that I remembered in 2019. The crowd was smaller, way smaller,

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Matt. I mean, when I went down there in 2019, you could not park within a mile of this place.

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You had to walk a mile just to get into the village. Well, I could have parked downtown this year, but I was anticipating that mile walk.

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So I parked far away and actually took a battery -powered scooter down with my backpack on through the bike path to get me into the village.

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But I didn't need that. And so what I left away from, Matt, was that this thing is starting to lose steam.

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These pride events are starting to lose steam. And I give God all the credit, all the glory.

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I prayed and prayed both before and after this event, Matt. And I'll be honest.

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I was pleased with what I saw and what I experienced, sir. Wow. Well, good.

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Good. Well, they have one here in a month or two, and I'm going to go. So hopefully it will be the same thing.

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Maybe it will be dying. But here in Boise, because I don't know how it is. I guess it's kind of latitude.

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But when winter is over, people get out and they have fun and they like to do that.

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So maybe they'll still be going. I don't know. But anyway, something to check out. Definitely go.

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And I would say this. To head off any impropriety, this is what we did. Go to your

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Ohio. I was going to say Ohio. Go through your Idaho code and see what the sex offenders laws are.

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The pandering, obscenity, the minors, that kind of thing. And go ahead and alert your county sheriff and your city's police department chief.

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That's what we did. And we just sent them nice letters with those codes as part of the letter saying, hey, this is what we know in Ohio.

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You can say this is what we know in Idaho. We just want you to enforce the law if there's any impropriety.

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Because our main heart really was to first evangelize, obviously, the

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Great Commission. But to protect the sight of the little ones, that they can't unsee.

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We were dead set on making sure that the law was enforced, that the little ones don't see something that they have to unsee later or that could cause them trauma later.

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And I am happy to announce here from Busman, the

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Busman report is it was a nothing burger. Everybody was dressed.

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They were all in rainbow. But everybody was dressed. There was some of the teens, Matt, were wearing stuff a little bit too short, if you will.

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But there was no impropriety. I was very pleased, Matt. And I'm glad to report that to you at Bats Flick Live and on the

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Truth Network here in the Ohio area. So, yeah, go to the strength that you have that day.

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Yeah, we're going to find out. I'm looking at some of the comments in Rumble, and one person is asking if there were any drag queens there.

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Were there? There were. There were. And not only were there drag queens there, but there was a band of them playing on a stage.

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And those were the ones I was referring to that said they could not get the crowd, you know, really energized and excited.

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I mean, I saw a few people clapping along. But, my goodness, guys, it looked so weird and just kind of, you know, pathetic.

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These guys dressed up as very gaudy women, you know, with this, you know, outlandish makeup and wigs on.

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It just, yeah, I think people in their logic was like, this really isn't entertaining, is it?

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I mean, those are men dressed up as strange -looking women singing these old rock songs.

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Yeah, that's gross. And so, yeah. Well, let me ask you. Well, not ask you. Yeah. Another comment from Laura who says in Provo, that's a

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BYU area, there are more pride flags, BLM flags, rainbow stuff. Sure, sure. Than anywhere else close to them.

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Just making comments to people. It's an important issue. And it's sad that the perversion of this kind of thing is promoted in our country.

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It's so lost, you know, it's horrible. It is. But good for you,

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Matt. Well, what went through my mind, Matt, what went through my mind was when Paul went to Athens, I believe it was

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Athens, and he was looking over all these Athenians' religious statues, and he finds the tomb of the unknown

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God. And I am not kidding him, actually, because I was heading towards into the village prior, as I left the house, it was prior before I got there,

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I got this sense of these poor, deceived people are crying out for any and all gods to satisfy them.

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If they're willing to cut themselves, to gob themselves up as the opposite sex in very outlandish costumes,

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Matt, my heart... Your heart. We lost you again.

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Okay, we'll give them a few seconds here while we're waiting for that. Ladies and gentlemen, that's a great thing you did.

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When he recorded that in the book of Acts. Okay, we lost you there for 10 seconds.

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I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm in kind of a weird area. But yes, where Paul was talking to the

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Athenians about the unknown God, let me tell you about this unknown God. That kind of eclipsed my heart of, oh,

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I want to get back at these people for what they're doing to our culture. I kind of sense pity, Matt, because they're crying out so desperately in public for a satisfaction that is fleeting.

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They do not have the peace of the living God living in their hearts yet, so they just keep trying more and more gods.

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Maybe if I try this, maybe if I dress up like a woman, I will be at peace. But I'll tell you,

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Matt, so I went in there with a state of pity, a heart state of pity, and I was able to talk to these people and relate to them.

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I believe that taught me something, honestly, Matt, about these people.

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I realized they're people that Jesus died for and that they are deceived so bad that they're willing to try anything to find a

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God that will provide them the peace and the stability and the tranquility that Jesus Christ offers all humanity.

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So I probably learned more going down there than probably the one man that I did tell about Jesus Christ, too.

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Well, good for you. Good for you, because we need more people doing what you're doing, and that's good.

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When I go down to the events, it's the same kind of thing. It's sad to see what they're looking for and what they're finding.

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It is. They need Jesus. Hey, man, there's a music we've got to get going, but God bless Buskman. God bless. Good job, man.

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God bless you, Matt. Thank you. All right, God bless. Hey, folks, we'll be right back after these messages.

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Give me a call, 877 -207 -2276. It's Matt Slick Live!

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Taking your calls at 877 -207 -2276. Here's Matt Slick.

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All right, everyone, welcome back to the show. If you want to give me a call, all you need to do is dial 877 -207 -2276.

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I'm curious if any of you saw the debate. We put the link up on the CARM site that I was in last week, a week and a half ago, on charismatic gifts.

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We'd just like some feedback on that if you feel like it. If not, no big deal. But curious about that.

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Let's get to Elijah from Pennsylvania. Elijah, welcome. You're on the air. Hey, Matt, my question today, well,

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I'll start out with this question because it leads into my main question. In Deuteronomy, when

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Moses prophesied about the prophet that's to come, that's referring to Jesus, right?

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Yes, that's right. Okay, okay. So I was reading

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John chapter one today, and I got to the verses in between verses 20 through 24.

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And in 20, 21, and I think we lost you.

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In verses 20, keep going. We don't hear you. So we'll keep stalling here a little bit.

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It gets back on the air. Hopefully he will. I don't hear him. I'd like to point this out. Okay, well, we lost you for like 15, 20 seconds.

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So go ahead. Start again. You're starting at John 120 through 24. Go ahead.

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Yeah. So in verse 20, John the

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Baptist said he's not the Messiah. In verse 21, he also says that he is not Elijah and he is not the prophet.

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And then the Jews ask him again about this between the

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Messiah, Elijah, and the prophet. And Muslims like to point this out because they say, well, if the prophet in Deuteronomy is referring to Jesus, like you say, then how come here in these verses the scriptures are making a clear distinction between the

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Messiah and the prophet? And Muslims like to say that the prophet here is clearly not the

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Messiah because there's a distinction. So the prophet here is referring to Muhammad to come.

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So have you ever heard this argument before? No, probably not.

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So let me get this straight. So they're saying that the word prophet there in verse 21 refers to Muhammad, right?

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Yeah, because they're saying that, you know, you know, you know, Christians like to say that the prophet that's become is referring to the

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Messiah. But here it's making a distinction between the prophet and the Messiah. And so the argument is that it's referring to Muhammad, not

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Jesus. Well, then the way to refute that idea is to simply read what this says.

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They said to him, well, then who are you so that we may give an answer? And he says, I'm a voice of one crying in the wilderness, make straight the way of the

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Lord. So he's doing is quoting Isaiah 40, verse three. It's very critical because what it says in the

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Hebrew is make straight the way of Yahweh. That's the name of God.

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So if you go to, for example, Mark, Mark 1. As it is written, verse two, as it is written in Isaiah, the prophet, behold,

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I sent a messenger ahead of you who will prepare your way. The voice of one crying in the wilderness, make ready the way of Yahweh.

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That's a quote from the Old Testament. That's John the Baptist who's making a way the path of Yahweh.

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So you ask them, is Muhammad Yahweh? No, he's not. That's who he's making the path for.

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So he's the prophet, as Isaiah the prophet said. So how can that be

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Muhammad if the text is referring to the one who's coming as God himself?

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Okay. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I think you're saying there.

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Yeah. In fact, a lot of people don't know that. Mark and this verse are demonstrations that Jesus Christ is

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God in flesh. Because the voice of one crying in the wilderness, make ready the way of Yahweh. Who did

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John the Baptist make? You ask him, who did he make ready, the path ready for?

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Well, Jesus. Okay, so that's the prophecy, right? Yes. Make the path ready for the

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Lord, right? And say yeah. Yeah, well, the word Lord there in Hebrew is Yahweh. The very name of God, which occurs 6 ,517 times in the

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Old Testament. So how is that then the prophet who's coming?

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How is it Muhammad if the prophet that John the Baptist is preparing for is

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Yahweh? Okay. Yeah.

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And I have another question. So do you know a good companion verse with John chapter 8, where Jesus said multiple times before Abraham was

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I am. And there's a good verse that shows

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Jesus' preexistence to show that he's not just a man like most of us like to say. Yes.

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Yes. John 6, 37 through 40. Okay.

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John 6, 37 through 40. Jesus says all the Father gives me will come to me.

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The one who comes to me I certainly will not cast out for I have come down from heaven. Not to do my own will, but the will of him who sent me.

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And you ask him, was Jesus in heaven with God? Ask him that.

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And he says this is the will of him who sent me that all that he's given me I lose nothing.

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Now what you need to do then is cross -reference this in the Quran with Surah 4, 171.

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And it says there that, oh people of the book, that's the

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Bible. Commit no excess in your religion nor say of Allah but the truth.

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Christ Jesus the son of Mary was no more than an apostle of Allah and his word. Even the

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Quran calls Jesus the word. That's in Surah 4, 171.

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So you can go to John 1, 1. In the beginning was the word. The word was with God.

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The word was God. The word became flesh and dwelt among us. Who was it?

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Who's the word who became flesh according to Surah 4, 171? That has to be

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Jesus. And the Bible calls him, in the beginning was the word. The word was with God. The word was

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God. And he says he came down from heaven. So who is this Mr. Muslim that he's speaking of here?

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Who's called God? Your book says it's the word. The Bible says it's the word that was equivalent to God.

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Okay? Yeah, that's a great cross -reference.

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But I had another cross -reference that I think you'll find interesting as well.

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In the same chapter, John 1, in verse 30, John the

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Baptist says, This is the one about whom I said, After me comes a man who ranks above me.

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Before he existed before me. And the Baptist says that Jesus preexisted. Well, then you have to ask them, what does it mean that he preexisted?

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And you've got to see what they say. Because the Bible does teach that Jesus preexisted. Absolutely. And here's just another verse that's just, well,

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I won't get into that. There's other stuff you can go to. I know this topic a lot. But those are some of the things you can do with the

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Muslims. So they have a preconceived idea that the prophet is Muhammad. And the

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Bible never prophesies about Muhammad, except in the context of saying false prophets will come. So if you want to go to the issue of John 1 to 23, where he's talking about John the

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Baptist, the coming prophet. That's the one who's buried. The prophet there is identified as being God. It can't be

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Muhammad. Okay, buddy. There's a break. You want to hang? Okay. Okay.

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Hang. Okay, buddy. Hold on. Okay. Hey, folks, be right back after these messages.

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If you want, give me a call, 877 -207 -2276. We'll be right back.

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It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877 -207 -2276. Here's Matt Slick.

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Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the show. We're at the bottom of the hour. If you want to give me a call, 877 -207 -2276.

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Elijah, are you still there? Yep, I'm still here. All right, man. Okay. So where were we?

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Yeah, we were talking about Jesus' preexistence and how

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Muslims think that he's the prophet to come. But I had another question.

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So have you ever heard of this interpretation before within the Christian community? You have the

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Seventh -day Adventist, which I believe is called the idealist or the historist interpretation of Revelation.

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I can't remember which one it was. But I saw this one Seventh -day Adventist video where the guy was interpreting

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Revelation 9, and he had a highly allegorical interpretation where he believes that that whole chapter is prophesying about the rise of Islam and Muhammad.

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And there's this other interpretation from this other denomination of Christianity that's lesser known.

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I can't remember the name of it, but they believe that the false prophet in Revelation 13 is

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Muhammad. So have you ever heard of these interpretations? No, I haven't, but I wouldn't trust the

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SDA. The Seventh -day Adventist is basically a cult. Okay. Seriously.

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Are you there? I think I lost you for about five seconds.

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Yeah, I wouldn't trust what the SDA say. Many, many, many people consider it a non -Christian cult.

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It is a cult against official doctrines, but there are groups within SDA that can have their foot inside of orthodoxy.

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So when they say this, they do a lot of eschological studies, and they try and get people into their cult by getting them entranced in this.

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But it doesn't mean that their interpretations are automatically false. So I'd have to look at that to see.

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There are some new theories coming out that the Antichrist may be a Muslim, and there's some interesting stuff about that.

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But other than that, I haven't studied it with that in mind to see. Okay. Speaking of that, you just brought that back to my remembrance.

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Because in Islam, there's this man that's supposed to come in Islamic end -time prophecy.

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He's called the Mahdi, I think, and he's supposed to come and bring world peace and all that stuff.

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And some Muslims who left that religion, who are now Christians, now believe that the

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Mahdi is actually the Antichrist. Yep. Yes, it's an unknown theory, and it's gained prominence in the past few decades.

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And it might be the case, because Muslims are highly intolerant. They might accept a

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Muslim -based leader where the apostate Christians and the Jews might then, just because they want peace, they might agree.

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And then you have a world leader in Jerusalem who's a

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Muslim and who allows the rebuilt Temple of Jerusalem to be built.

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And I've been there. I've been to the site of Jerusalem, the mosque. There's plenty of room in the area in order to build something for the

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Jews. So it may be the case, but we don't know. Okay.

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Yeah, and also, studying Islamic end -time theology, it seems that they've borrowed a lot from the

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Bible. Because in Islamic end -time theology, they also say that there's going to be this literal beast that I think arises out of the earth.

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But in Christianity, in Revelation 13, it's a symbolic beast, not literal. So I just find it interesting that they have some similarities.

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There are debates about that within Christianity, if it's literal or what. And so I wouldn't say overall, everybody says it's not literal.

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But some say that the beast is the Antichrist. Some say the beast is the

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Catholic Church. Who knows? I've heard stuff like the beast is an

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AI, artificial intelligence. But I don't know. And some say that it might be an actual spiritual creature that is manifested.

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So there's some stuff I've read that's quite varied. Hmm. Yeah. All right?

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Yes, it's very interesting. Yes, it is. What you should do is write up the stuff that you see, different sources, if you can find those sources on the web.

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You send them to me. Because I'm always looking for new information. Like on a buried

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Muslim website someplace, they quote something that's not very common. I like to look at that kind of stuff and run down the documentation.

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Because the Hadith is humongous. And sometimes they'll reference something out of the

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Hadith and they'll give a comment in the Arabic. And it'll bring out the truth in it. And so I'm always looking for things like that.

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So if you ever find stuff, you know, you put it together, you send it to me. I'd love to see it. Okay? Okay, great.

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All right. All right, man. We'll keep up the good work, buddy. All right. All right, thanks. Have a good one.

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All right, good. You too. God bless. All right. Hey, give me a call. 877 -207 -2276.

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Let's get to Jamal from North Carolina. Welcome. You're on the air. Good day,

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Matt. Thank you for taking my call. Always a pleasure to talk to you. And doing your shows as usual.

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Praise God, man. Praise God. Thanks, sir. I wanted to ask maybe a simple question.

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Mainly just for the audience benefit and for my benefit as well. We have more people, unfortunately, especially people in Hollywood, embracing

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Satanism. So if you wouldn't mind, would you let us know about how bad

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Satanism is? Well, there's varying degrees of Satanism.

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There are some who actually worship the being Satan. And there are reports of actual manifestations of demonic forces and presence.

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Within these movements, there are accounts. And I'm going to say this carefully because there are children who might be listening.

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There are accounts of females who are bred for certain purposes.

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And there are children and stuff. And so you can just let your imagination run wild on that. On the other end of the scale, there are those who say they follow

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Satanism. And they don't believe in a real demonic entity.

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But they believe in serving one's self and one's pleasures as the ultimate goal. So between those extremes, there are a variety also within that movement or that broad umbrella.

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But within Hollywood, let's just say that I've talked to two people who were involved in Hollywood.

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And I'll just give you the stories. I won't give you too much details. One person said that she met the taxi driver.

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I'm so bad with names. They played the taxi driver. Are you looking at me? Robert De Niro.

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Robert De Niro. Thank you. I remember numbers. I was having trouble with names. And so she told me how she knew him and that he was invited to a certain party.

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And that she wanted to go. She was a good -looking woman. And she wanted to go.

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And he said, no, you don't want to go to this kind of party. And the implication was a lot of weird stuff was going on there.

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Another person I talked to who was involved in Hollywood in a support staff issue was invited to varying group parties, let's just say very generically.

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And what happens in those. And declined, of course. And so it was very prominent and very practiced there.

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Could I say a group party that has kind of romantic implications?

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Okay. Thank you. That the pagan Greeks and Romans would do. So this kind of stuff.

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And that there's a lot of that going on. And then in some areas, supposedly,

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I've got to be careful how I say this. Because there's a lot of stuff where, how do

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I say this generically? Where young ones are kept and things are done to them in order to extract adrenaline out of them.

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Wow. So that it can be used and injected to others. Wow. Yeah, these are things

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I can't talk about over the air like this. But there's real evil going on.

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And we were talking, last night we were talking about abductions. Not the

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UFO kind. And what's going on in that. And the trade that's happening. That's the only thing

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I would ever give up my ministry for. To go after those people. Exactly.

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Yep. I'd go after them. Hey folks, we'll be right back after these messages.

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Please stay tuned. We'll be right back. It's Matt Slick live.

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Taking your calls at 877 -207 -2276. Here's Matt Slick.

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Alright everybody, welcome back to the show. Let's get back on the air with Jamal. Welcome Jamal. Whoops, I hit the wrong button there.

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Okay buddy, you're back on. Alright, thank you sir. Okay. So, yeah,

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I had to talk generically about that. And it was difficult to get through. But it's alive and well.

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And I used to be involved with a gentleman back in Southern California. Who directly was working against Satanism.

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And I can tell you a story about that. Not a big deal, but I can tell you a story about it. But it's alive and well, unfortunately.

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Yeah, unfortunately. And that's another reason why I called. Just in case you had some information that I was not aware of.

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And I see that it does, unfortunately, go pretty deep. Do you happen to have, as you know,

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I'm going to ask about reference tools. Do you have reference tools regarding this on your website?

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Nope. No, I don't. It's one of the topics

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I've not gotten into real deeply. And I would.

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I don't have a problem with it. It's just that the wheel that squeaks is what

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I grease. So, if I don't see a real need for it immediately. If it starts coming up more and more, then

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I study it. But I do know that it's alive and well, unfortunately. I do know it is.

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Yeah. Yeah. Definitely.

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I also wanted to share a video with you. I know you wanted to send the link.

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I haven't typed in the link yet. Hopefully, I'll get to it soon. There was a guy,

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I think his name is, not Robert Morris, that's the other guy.

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Anyway, his name escapes me for right now. I think his name is Robert Robinson or something like that.

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With the Hoover Institute. He's interviewed, what's his name,

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Dr. Soul and guys like that. He had a show or interview with three guys talking about mathematics and God.

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I think mathematics and Darwinism. Have you heard of these guys?

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The panel was Stephen Meyer, Dr. Brzezinski, and Dr.

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Gerdinal. Have you heard of those guys? No, I know who most of them are. But go ahead.

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Okay. All right. Good. It was just a compelling talk about debunking some of these guys who were going against God.

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And Stephen Meyer, he was using mathematics to say, hey, look, there's intelligent design here.

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There's a mind that created us. And through looking at life in general, on many different forms, you can go to a creative mind.

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So I wanted to bring that up to you. The guy, Stephen Meyer, he's pretty good.

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He seems to be a Christian because he seems to be fighting from our side. But I also wanted to let you know about his book in case you didn't know about his book.

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And his book is called Disproving Darwinism. It seems to be a pretty good book.

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Let me check. I have lots of books. So let's see.

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I can't keep track of them. Disproving. No, that's not. No, I don't have that particular one.

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But I do have his book, Signature in the Cell. And actually something

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I'm kind of getting interested in recently is intelligent design and evidences of what's called the anthropic principle.

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So I'd like to be able to research that more and more too. So a few years ago, there was a

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Christian guy who was taking microbiology. And he wanted to be some weird esoteric kind of a job.

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And we had a whiteboard in our room. We called it the homeschool room.

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We had the kids' homeschool down there. Now they're gone, but we still call it the homeschool room, my wife and I.

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Anyway, we had this big whiteboard, you know, like about six by six. And I said,

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Hey, here are some markers. Why don't you explain stuff to me? And he did for about an hour and a half.

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I said, I've got some smattering of understanding of stuff, but, you know, I'll ask you questions when I get stuck. So I was asking questions within the first 30 seconds, you know.

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And this guy's going through it. He's explaining things. And I remember this very distinctly as he's explaining how this works and that leads to this, which causes that, which causes this.

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And he's explaining all the details. And he'd been studying it for two years in college. And I just looked at him.

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And I said, Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I said, How can anyone believe that this is an accident?

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And he looked at me. His eyes bugged out. He says, I know it's amazing. It's so obvious that it's designed without a doubt.

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This did not happen by chance. And it was really interesting. Remember that moment? But, you know, yeah, it's amazing how this stuff isn't taught in school.

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I guess I kind of know why. Because, you know, the unfortunate push against God in school.

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But when you look at it purely from a scientific aspect, even a historical aspect,

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I mean, all the evidence points to God. So, and that was something else that Stephen Myers said.

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He said it's kind of hard to talk about science and creation without talking about God.

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Because if you are eliminating God, you're not really looking at it as a pure scientific kind of perspective. Because your idea is already biased.

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Because the scientific mind is supposed to bring in all kinds of arguments and all kinds of discussions. And if you're already excluding a discussion, your scientific method, so -called, is already biased.

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Yep. That's right. You've got a good head on your shoulders now. Oh, thanks, thanks.

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Real quick, just in time. I found the note that I was trying to find for you.

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Just to go through the guys real quick. Stephen Meyer, his book is Darwin's Doubt.

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David Brzezinski, sorry, David Brzezinski, Deniable Darwinism and Other Essays.

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And what was the other guy's name? David Gerlendahl, didn't spell his name correctly.

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Tiles of Consciousness. And the whole panel was hosted by Peter Robertson for Uncommon Knowledge from the

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Hoover Institute in Fox Nation. So I'll try to put it out there. Yeah, I'll try to send it to you as soon as I can.

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But thank you, Mr. Slick, and God bless her. Amen. God bless you. Really appreciate it. Good stuff. All right.

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Thank you. Good. Okay. You know, he's brought up this issue here.

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And someone from Germany actually emailed me some information on intelligent design stuff.

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And I have to go through the material. And I love science. I always have. So I am looking for a list of...

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I want to develop a list of facts that are science, science -based, science -verified, that lean towards, or the best interpretation of it is a designer.

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You know, there are varying constants in science, in the nature of physics.

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And a lot of people have discussed why those constants are what they are. One of them is a gravitational constant.

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And it has a certain strength. And I saw an illustration once, or I read an illustration. The Milky Way Galaxy is like 100 ,000 light years across.

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100 ,000 light years. Which means at the speed of light, 183 ,000 miles a second.

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It would take 100 ,000 years to cross the Milky Way Galaxy from one end to the other.

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All right. If you were to take a line and draw a line from one end to the other.

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So it's 100 ,000 light years long. That would be interesting, how many miles it is. 100 ,000 light years long.

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And then you were to divide that line up into inches. The question then becomes...

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Well, this is the illustration. If the gravitational constant would exist at a certain place.

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It's strength. And if you were to take that line and have it be representative as the strength possibilities of the gravitational constant.

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From really small to really high. And the one we have now, the constant we have, would be in such and such a place.

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Among this line. All right. The point is, if you were to move that constant one inch to the right or left, life can't exist.

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And it has something to do... I don't know why. But this is what the article was saying. It has to do with gravity doing certain things to the sun and gravity and moon and earth and orbits and all this stuff.

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It wouldn't be able to populate. And then people go in. I've got to find this stuff. I love this kind of stuff. So if you know of things like that, you should send them to me.

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You know, in the sources where they are. And I always like to break things down so that the average bearer can understand them.

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That's a good illustration. That's a good illustration. And since I have a good mind for this kind of stuff, then people can send me information.

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I should be able to break it down and make it understandable for people.

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That's what I want to do. So if you know of stuff like that in books and sources, articles and places, you can always send them to me at infoatkarm .org.

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All right. Now an earlier caller talked about the prophet out of John 1, 20 -23.

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Well, during the break, I took a more relaxed examination of it.

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And I discovered something in it. So my initial comments weren't as accurate as they needed to be.

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But let me say this. That when it says, are you the prophet, and the

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Muslims say that it is the prophet Muhammad, that's a problem.

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Because that's referencing Deuteronomy 18 -15, which says this,

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The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you from your countrymen.

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Muhammad was not a Jew. So it cannot apply to Muhammad.

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Very simply. And furthermore, in the Koran, in Surah 5 -51, it says,

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O you who believe, take not Jews and Christians for your friends and protectors. So the

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Koran denounces the idea of having friends even who are Jews. And yet, the prophet

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Muhammad, supposedly from the Koran, was the one who fulfilled

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Deuteronomy 18 -15. And was that prophet.

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But the court of the prophecy, the prophet has to be a Jew from among the countrymen of the

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Jews. So that could not be Muhammad. Very simple, very direct, very easy to deal with.

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Alright, hey look, we are about out of time. We've got about a minute left in the show. Just want to let you know that we do stay on the air by your support.

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We really do. We really do. And I hope that you would pray. So may the Lord bless you in that and your efforts.

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And by the way, I will be on tomorrow, Wednesday.

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I will be on the air Wednesday, but not Thursday and Friday. It's the 4th of July weekend.

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We'll be taking those two days off. There's the music. I'm out of here. May the Lord bless you. And by His grace, we'll be back on here tomorrow.

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And we'll talk to you then. God bless everybody. Bye. Another program powered by the