Geology and the Flood Washington State

A and introduce you.

So here we go.

So our title tonight is geology.

In the central cascades.

Terry, did you disappear?

No, I'm still here.

Can you hear me?

Yes, but just now.

What?

I mean, just right now, if you were saying something, we didn't hear it.

Before.

You started to say the title.

No, I got the title from you guys.

So geology and the flood.

In central Washington.

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And Mark, did you say you had a to start us off with?

No, he didn't have a joke to start us off with.

Oh, I just saw some good chemistry jokes the other day, but I forget them.

I know I know one of my favorites is what do you with the chemist when it when he dies?

But barium.

Oh, my.

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Tonight, we're pleased to have with us Mark Finkbeiner.

Mark is the founder of the Tri -Cities Creation Science Club where he holds creation science seminars

every other month of the year.

He also founded Mark's Academy of Science where he teaches geology and electronics to

homeschoolers and science adventure tours where he does field trips mostly on the Missoula flood

caused by Noah's flood.

His college education is in criminal justice, electronics, automotive technology,

geology and he has graduated from two police academies.

Mark received Jesus Christ into his heart at the age of 12.

He is now into film production making flood geology videos in the Pacific

Northwest and filming physics and Bible experiments.

For about three years, he and two other guys had their own creation science TV program called Creation

Foundations.

His biggest project at this time is uncovering very profound geological evidence of a

universal flood in central Washington that very few creation scientists seem to know about and tonight

he joins us from in front of his rock collection so we're excited to hear

what he has to share with us.

Mark, go ahead.

All right, well thank you very much.

Thanks for inviting me here so that I can share this information that very few people seem to know

about.

First to start off, I'd like to give you just a little bit more background before I start.

When I was six years old, I knew I wanted to be a scientist and a mathematician and so by the

time I got into sixth grade, all I ever heard about was evolution and the eight men

and I thought well since no pastors or teachers in churches, no one ever teaches on

evidence that supports creation, I just thought well I guess science is not on our side and so I

gave up the pursuit.

I thought science was just on the side of the evolutionists.

Then one day when I was 25 years old, I heard a pastor

on the radio and he was talking about all this scientific evidence that supports the Genesis

account, the creation account in the Bible and I was just floored.

I just thought what in the world is going on, you know, and

that was a whole life changer.

So my whole life changed before me and so I no longer had the

same goals, dreams, visions, you know, and so

what I did is I heard that at our local Bible bookstore you could get books on this thing called

creation science that I'd never heard of and so I bought all the books.

I bought tons of books.

I bought all the books from ICR and I read them all and then that led to

eventually doing field trips and I mean God has really blessed in this ministry.

I mean he has had people donate an enormous amount of money to

this ministry.

I just, you know, I can't believe the miracles that have occurred here and so here I

am about what 30 years later and now I'm getting to do these kind of

things.

So anyway, so today what I want to do, like Terry was

saying, I'm going to give a presentation on some geologic evidence in central

Washington that supports the universal flood.

Now let's talk about where all this began.

Now that's kind of a strange picture.

Well, that's my wife there holding a rifle and that's me holding a rifle.

We were married in 94 and then we did a lot of bear and deer hunting in the Cascades

in central Washington and so this is probably

about 1995 -96 and, you know, this is the strangest thing.

Okay, now I had geology already.

I had geology, I had biology and so I knew a little something about geology at this time

and as we hunted around central Washington, the Blewett Pass,

Kittitas and Chelan County, there was just, there was something in my mind that was saying, Mark,

this is a weird place.

This is not normal here.

This is something that you need to investigate and I learned about the history of this

place.

Chief Joseph, you know, I learned he rode his horse through where Highway 97 is now

down there by where Blewett, where the city of Blewett used to be, which was a gold mining town.

They had a 20 stamp mill there and they mined gold, I forget

how many years, probably 20 years, something like that and

so then I was, I got on the

internet to look up places to go rock hunting because I've always wanted to go rock hunting, you know, because I

hadn't got into it that much and so

I found this website and I'm going to get to that yet.

In fact, I'll tell you what, before we get to that website, I just want to show you some things here that I found on the

internet.

This is a giant geode that's found in Cowlitz County.

This is at the south part of the Cascade Mountains, a giant geode that was

just found recently and then this is a big chunk of jade that was found in Darrington, Washington

and so we've got a lot of strange and unusual geology around here, okay,

and there's the big chunk of jade that they hauled out of there, okay,

and so this is where we're going to go and we're going to go right there

between Leavenworth and Cle Elum, Highway 97 and you'll notice where it shows

sandstone formations and lion's rock.

Now, I want you to get familiar with this.

Now, remember where lion's rock is at the bottom of your screen.

We've got sandstone formations.

Cle Elum is more to the right of the screen and then just above Cle Elum, it shows slick

rock.

Now, that's really important for our study, so I want you to get accustomed to that and of course, to the right, you have the

Wenatchee River.

Way up the north, you have Lake Chelan, which is a whole nother piece of geology we could talk about,

okay, and so now we're kind of zooming in just a little bit more.

There's Peel Point, there's Ellensburg, Cle Elum,

all that, okay, and and then you'll notice we're kind of zooming in on

Miner's Cabins.

Down below is the Tiannaway.

To the left, left -hand corner is Cheese Rock and then, of course, up towards the top, we have lots

of sandstone formations.

You got lion's rock.

All that's really important to try to remember in your head, okay, and

of course, now, once again, on the right side, you have Peel Point and that's a huge cliff.

Lots of thunder eggs are found over there and below, we have Cle Elum,

Washington and then just below Cle Elum, we have Roslyn, Washington, okay.

Now, okay, so there's Roslyn.

Now, you see the red line.

Now, that red line right there, that represents all these coal mines

that run from Roslyn to Cle Elum.

Now, they're no longer mining those mines.

Now, they started that in, let's see, I had this all memorized.

It was, I think they started in 1889, something like that, and then they mined those

mines till around, I think, 1963, and so there's a lot of

really interesting things, lots of interesting history and geology here.

So, see, I'm kind of getting you prepped here.

I'm giving you a foundation for how unique this area is.

Now, this is really amazing.

Now, look at the city of Roslyn right there, okay.

See the city of Roslyn, okay.

Now, there is their cemetery.

A lot of people died in Roslyn.

In fact, the city of Roslyn, shouldn't even call it a city.

At one time, it was called a ghost town.

There's between 500 and 1 ,000 people that live there.

I think there's more dead people in the cemetery than there are people that actually live there.

They had a huge mining accident there in one of their mines.

I think it was mine number one, where 45 people were killed in the late

1800s, and let's see, okay, let's back up.

Okay, so one of their mines, one of their coal mines,

has 56 miles of tunnels, and that mine goes 2 ,700 feet down in the

ground, okay.

So, now you think about, well, what makes coal?

Well, if there was all this coal, and by the way, they still say to this day that they

estimate that there's still 235 million tons of

coal left to be mined out.

Well, where does all that coal come from?

Well, lush vegetation.

That's how it got there, and then as we go west, we're going to run into all these tropical plants

like palm fronds, various kinds of leaves about 20 miles away.

So, the further you go west, the less coal you have.

Near Highway 97, near Cle Elum and Leavenworth, you can find coal, but right

here around Roslyn, there's an enormous amount of coal in there, and so this is evidence

that at one time, things were a lot different, more pristine, more jungle -like, and then, of

course, we have this universal flood, and it creates all this coal, and

by the way, the, oh boy, I'm trying to think of the word now.

I'll think of it here in a minute.

What the catalyst for coal is, oh, it's that stuff that comes out

of volcanoes, but anyway, if you watch one of my videos, I document all that, how coal is

really formed.

So, coal is formed quite quickly, and volcanic action has a lot to do with coal formation.

Well, we've got a lot of volcanic action that occurs around this area that did occur at one time.

Okay, so now, with all that in mind, now, when we were hunting there at Blewett,

I became really fascinated with the area, and I started looking up websites to find

thundereggs and geodes, because I heard that this is a great place to go hunting for thundereggs and geodes,

and upon my research, I could not believe what I saw.

I mean, it was like God was telling me, this is an amazing place, and here, this confirms

it.

Now, get this.

This is not creation scientists that are teaching this.

This is evolutionists that are teaching this.

They're saying that there's 50 ,000 feet.

Did you hear that?

50 ,000 feet of sedimentary layers and lava flows in the Kittitas

area.

Now, that's part of Highway 97.

That's between Cle Elum and Leavenworth.

Now, get this.

Now, I'm going to show these books in my slideshow, but just this one book alone, look how

thick that is.

This is just the history of that area.

This is just some of the history.

Then, they wrote another book here about all the gold mines and all the amazing geology

in this area.

In fact, this book here, this book about gold mining, they call this area

freak geology.

Now, that's the secularists.

That's the evolutionists that are saying this.

They call it freak geology because they can't figure it out because, you see, they won't accept the

Genesis account of the flood.

They're blown away by it.

They're trying to do a lot of mental gymnastics, trying to figure out how to explain

this place through uniformitarianism, and they can't do it because all this stuff has been laid down

at 50 ,000 feet of sedimentary layers.

Then, here's another book that a guy wrote.

He's blown away by it.

He's a geologist, and he just can't believe that some of these sedimentary layers

can be 30 ,000 feet thick.

Now, we're going to talk about all of that.

Then, I got this notebook.

I got all this information off the internet that I've been studying so I can learn the area real well.

This is just the beginning of it.

A lot of geologists are just blown away by this area, but they can't

get comfortable because they won't accept the Genesis account.

Anyway, this first drawing that you're looking at here, this is all the layers that are laid down horizontally.

This is what it looked like at one time in the past.

Now, both creationists and evolutionists all agree that all these layers were laid down horizontally first.

It starts out with the Ellensburg Formation, and then the Columbia River, and then the Wenatchee

Formation, and then the Roslyn -Chumstit

Formation, then the Teanaway Formation, which is a lava flow that they claim is 5 ,000 feet

thick.

Then, there's the Teanaway Formation below that, and that's made up of sandstone, conglomerate,

shale, and they're claiming that that can be up to 28 ,000 feet deep.

That's like three Grand Canyons.

This really is 50 ,000 feet of sedimentary layers and lava flows, and this is 10 Grand Canyons deep.

Now, here's the other drawing that they made.

They gave this to all the people that attended their field trips.

You'll notice that these evolutionists now, they talk about the Swak Formation, which is sandstone and

shale.

They say, well, that's 52 million years ago.

Then, they have the Teanaway.

They have the Roslyn Formation, and then the Columbia River flood basalts,

and then the Thorpe and Ellensburg Formation.

Of course, below the Swak, you have the Ingalls Complex.

Now, the Ingalls Complex is really interesting.

You see now, if there's any kids listening here.

Now, you got to think about rocks.

Now, I graduated from two police academies, one of my majors in criminal justice.

One thing you learn is you learn that A leads to B, and B leads to C,

and C leads to D.

That's how the FBI looks at it too.

You start bringing all this evidence together, and one piece of evidence leads to another.

You pick up a rock, and it's like a fingerprint.

It tells you what's been there.

It gives you an idea.

How did the rock form?

What is in the rock?

Then, that gives you an idea of what is in the area.

This is barite right here.

Let's see.

We're going to talk about barite here in a moment.

Now, the Mount Stuart Batholith that you see on the far left, they claim that that's 93

million years old.

Well, when you look at Mount Stuart, it's very jagged.

Mount Stuart is mostly made up of granodiorite.

Here is granodiorite.

Hopefully, you can see that.

You see all of the brown specks in there?

That's biotype magma, or biotype

mica, and it's got a class feldspar in it.

More so than granite.

Here is granite.

Hopefully, you can see that.

Granite and granodiorite are very similar.

Mount Stuart is a batholith.

That means it was an underground magma chamber.

Now, it's above the ground.

The evolutionists, they claim that this batholith, it rose up out of the ground.

As it rose up, all these horizontal layers that were horizontal at one time,

they all moved up like this at an angle, like about a 90 -degree angle.

Now, some of the Roslin formation is at 180 degrees, almost at

180 degrees.

Now, like I was saying about rocks, now you got to study rocks, and you got to treat rocks like they're a fingerprint.

The Ingalls Complex is what we call Iron Peak, and it is made up of

argillite, graywack, conglomerate, chert, those kind of

things.

Now, argillite, it's basically, it's mud.

It's dried up mud.

Some people say it's metamorphic.

It metamorphed into argillite.

They're claiming that the Ingalls Complex, a lot of it is mud.

It's got chert on it.

It's got conglomerate.

Now, conglomerate, if you don't know what that is, that's just simply a lot of rocks

all cemented together.

There's a piece of conglomerate right there.

It's a sedimentary rock.

Now, it was all laid down, I believe, by a catastrophe, a water catastrophe, a

mud flow.

Here's another chunk of conglomerate.

That's conglomerate right there.

The Ingalls Complex, you can see that's really thick, very deep.

That was all laid down by water.

The Swak Formation was laid down by water.

The Tiananwei Flood Basalt, now it has more silica in it than

the Columbia River Flood Basalt.

Now, the Columbia River Flood Basalt, that flood, that came from Dykes,

southeast Washington, northeast Oregon, Idaho, and Nevada,

and flowed this way.

I would say that that happened sometime mid -flood, maybe towards the end of the flood, somewhere

in there.

We've got flood basalts here in Washington that are

about, well, flows.

They claim that, let's see, they claim that they're,

oh boy, I used to be able to do all this from memory.

There's 300 flood flows, but

they claim that it took so many years for each one of those flows.

Well, if that was true, then that there would be almost 17 ,000 years between each flow, but yet

we don't see any erosion marks between those flows, and we don't see any

evidences of lakes or rivers between those flows.

So we know all those flows flowed quickly, one right after another, because there's no erosion marks between them.

Okay, same thing with the Tiananwei Formation.

Now, like I was saying, the Tiananwei Formation has got a lot more silica in it than

the Columbia River Basalt.

That's why in the Blewett Pass area, you can find all of

these geodes.

See, I found all of these here, okay, because the more silica you

have in your basalt, the more likely you're going to find agates,

geodes, thunder eggs, and maybe some of you saw my 30 -minute video that I did on

the formation of geodes and thunder eggs, and so found this

here, found a lot of stuff, okay.

I mean, I could bore you all day.

Oh, and I got a good story about these two rocks right here.

These are almost Ellensburg blue.

Now, if these were Ellensburg blue, they would be worth around six, seven hundred dollars,

okay.

So that's another thing that we're famous for here.

Far as I know, nobody really has this quality of agate in the world, and

so the way I found these, I was looking for agates in the river on First Creek near

Ellensburg, and that creek follows Highway 97 for a few

miles, and I was really hot, so I just dumped into, I just jumped into First Creek.

I'm laying down in the river, I open my eyes in the water, and lo and behold, I found this guy

right here, and I did it a second time with this guy right here, okay.

So there's, you know, I got a lot of good memories of that place, and here's

another geode.

By the way, the difference between a geode and nodule is that a geode is hollow, okay, and you got crystals

in there, and the nodule is, let's see, what I have,

oh yeah, so this is a nodule right here.

There's no cavity, all right.

By the way, if you want to see what happens, okay, I got this guy, this here,

this is a guy that wanted to become a geode or a thunder but never made it, okay.

So you see the big cavity right there.

By the time I get done with this, I'm going to have my workout for me.

Okay, so let's see, okay, so next slide.

Okay, so now here's what they're saying.

They're saying that there's 50 ,000 feet of sedimentary layers and lava flows in

that area, and Ellensburg, Washington sits at bottom of an anticline.

So they're saying that this whole area, the central Washington area, is an

anticline, and Ellensburg is sitting at the bottom of the anticline.

So an anticline is a fold of rock layers that slope downward on both sides of a common crest.

Anticlines form when rocks are compressed by plate tectonic forces.

They can be as small as a hill or as large as a mountain range.

Well, this is a huge mountain range, and so they're saying that Ellensburg is actually sitting

on 50 ,000 feet of sedimentary layers and lava flows, okay.

So that's what's making this area so amazing.

Now, there's actually a creation science museum that just opened up in this area a few years

ago, and Will Marin, he's the curator of the museum,

and he's a lot of fun to talk to.

He knows the area real well.

He and I, we've gotten together a few times, went fossil hunting.

I've interviewed him.

I put it on Facebook.

Hopefully, some of you have seen that video, and then, you know, he's got

this model of a backbone of a dinosaur.

He's just got all kinds of neat things to look at, and these are just some of the pictures.

This is a field trip that I did to Blewett Pass, which is along Highway 97, of course,

and there's the Ellensburg Formation.

We're going to talk about that.

That's really an amazing place.

Lots of opportunities for gold panning, gold mining.

Okay, so here's a map.

Okay, so there's Blewett right there at an elevation of 4 ,100 feet.

As you go north, you go to Leavenworth, trying to

just kind of help you get an idea, trying to help you get a mental picture of

everything that I'm talking about here.

Now, okay, so here is the city of Blewett in

1878, and let's see, the big building on the right is

your 20 -stamp mill, and the little building just in front of it, that's your dynamite house, your

powder house, and over to the left is a public school,

and so that's what it looked like in 1878.

That's a stamp mill, and now here's what it looks like now.

There's nothing.

It's gone, and if you walk up the hill there, you can still find gold mines.

I found a gold mine up there, and oh, probably about 15 -20 years ago, and I've tried to go back to it, and I can't

find it.

Also, there's a treasure in there.

There's a story about a huge treasure chest that a guy buried, and it's supposed to still be

there, and far as I know, nobody's found it.

Okay, so there's another view of the city of Blewett, and I'm taking a picture on the other side

of the highway.

Right behind me, there's all kinds of abandoned gold mines.

Just a fascinating place.

There's that 20 -stamp mill again, and in this book called Buried

Treasures of the Pacific Northwest, it talks about this huge treasure that one of these gold miners,

he came from another country, and he had all this gold that he brought with him,

and he buried it.

He died, and nobody's been able to find it, but it's supposed to still be there.

Amazing, and this is what they

used before they had a 20 -stamp mill, and it's called an arastra,

and that's how they ground all of

their rocks to get the gold.

Okay, now there's a really cool story.

Now, behind me, that's the Pohastion River.

It used to be, back in the 1800s, and this is why people started gold mining there, people would just walk

up to that river and pull out gold nuggets.

That's how it got started.

Imagine that.

Just walk over the river and start picking up gold nuggets, and here's another arastra.

Now, this is at the ghost town of Liberty, which is just about 25 miles south

of Blewett, and this is the only arastra that's working in the United

States.

That's what they tell me.

It's the only one, and that's the ghost town there of Liberty, and there's what's left of

the Blewett stamp mill, and then, of

course, I showed you that book about Blewett Gold, The History of the Pohastion Mining District,

all of that history.

There's just a lot of history there.

There's been different people who've written articles, books, pamphlets, all kinds

of stuff about this area because it's so fascinating.

There you got one about the Liberty Basin geology gold, about all the gold, the wire

gold that's been found there.

There's a lot of wire gold.

Now, wire gold is really important now for our study, and there's what Liberty looked like back

100 years ago or so, and that's what it looked like.

I love all these old pictures, and they all dressed up to play tug -of -war on the 4th of

July, and now this is what it looks like today.

Interesting things about this place is wire gold, Ellensburg Blewett, fossils,

diamonds, oh boy, we're going to talk about that, lost treasure, how do we get diamonds there, and, of course,

the 50 ,000 feet of sedimentary layers and lava flows.

Let's see what to look for to find the Blewett.

Well, there is the Blewett.

That's what it looks like when you find the real thing, and there are people there who live around that area,

and they know where to find this stuff, and they're not telling anybody, and this is the person right

here.

This is the man and his wife.

They own this rock and gem store there in the forest, and they know right where to go.

I asked them, can you tell me where it's at, and then, nope, they're not going to tell me, and they say it's really hard to get to,

to find the Ellensburg Blewett, so this is what they found, and I

asked the guy, well, how much are you selling that bigger rock there for?

He says, I'm selling it for $6 ,000, $6 ,000, that Ellensburg Blewett,

and by the way, some of the experts will tell you that the hardness of that rock can go anywhere from 7

to 8, 8 Mohs scale, okay?

In fact, people have been so amazed about the Ellensburg Blewett, they had a Ph .D. guy come, I believe from

New Zealand, his last name was Hoskins, and he came here

and did a Ph .D. dissertation on the Ellensburg Blewett.

Now, this valley here, now,

just below this valley is Ellensburg, okay?

Now, they say that at one time, there was a whole bunch of water that flowed

through here, through that pass, that mountainous pass there,

and it ripped up all the agate that was in the basalt.

By the way, the host rock is basalt.

That's where the Ellensburg Blewett comes from, and it ripped it all up, and that's why down

here in the valley, you can find a lot of Ellensburg Blewett.

There's a ranch called the Tomahawk Ranch, and they will allow you on their property for a fee.

They don't let you dig.

You just have to walk around, and you can pick up the Ellensburg Blewett if you see one.

As far as I know, they haven't been doing that for a while, so

these are just really interesting things.

Now, gold is fascinating to think about.

It really is, because what does the evolutionists say?

What did they say about the formation of gold?

Well, they say that there was two stars came together and hit each

other, something like that, and they claim that gold is extraterrestrial, that it landed on

this planet.

That's how gold, that's how they say gold got here, but you see, they can never explain how it was actually

created, because that would be violating the first law of thermodynamics, because you can't just

create an element.

You have to have other elements to create an element.

You learn that in chemistry, but these guys, they're trying to tell us how

gold was formed, but you can't do that without violating the first law of

thermodynamics, and I wrote an article on that.

I would love to come back on here and explain all that sometime about the formation of gold and how

it had to be created miraculously.

Now, with that in mind, here is wire gold.

Now, bluett is known for its wire gold.

Now, as far as I know, there's very few places in the world where you can find

wire gold, and bluett's got a lot of it.

Now, wire gold, gold is usually in calcite or silica

quartz around bluett, and so I talked to this gold miner, and he's very famous here in

Washington.

He's been a main speaker at Central Washington University.

They allow him to come in, and they allow him to teach, and he says that he gets a lot of his gold

out of calcite.

Now, calcite, let's see.

All right, so this great big, I pulled this out of

Pahastion River.

There's your calcite.

So, in theory, I should be able to break all this up and find gold in it, okay?

Now, hopefully I can set this now without dropping it.

Okay, so anyway, wire gold is the purest

form of gold, and if you ever pick up a nugget out of a stream, at one time it was wire.

So, a gold nugget was wire at one time, and bluett has got a

lot of wire gold, and these two brothers back in, I think

the 1940s, 1950s, they found tons of wire gold out there in the

mountains, and I believe this was their cabin right here.

The Ace of Diamonds, former mining operation, the early 1900s, $120

,000 in gold was mined here, and of course, you know, $120 ,000

then, I mean, compared that to today, what's that?

Close to a million, and so you find a lot of these cabins just all over the

place, and that was kind of a spooky find.

I was just, you know, beating the brush, and I come upon this cabin here, and

so, okay, so now, let's talk about the shale deposits and tropical fossils that are found in them.

So, here is a tropical fossil that I found, palm fronds.

I've got buckets full of these guys, and you find these in giant mud flows in the mountains out

there, and they're all over.

You just dig for them.

They're not hard to find, okay, and so here, we found all those

palm fronds on the left side of the hill, and the way I got it figured, that must be a giant

mud flow, because all this stuff is broke up, you know, because you got to remember, when all this was laid down in the

beginning at the flood, it was all horizontal, and it was all together, so it's solidified.

Well, then the Bible, it talks about the mountains rising up in Psalms 104, so the mountains rose up,

broke up the horizontal rocks,

like these sedimentary rocks broke them up, and then you have these giant mud flows, and you find this

stuff all broken up in the dirt, okay,

and it's weird, because you find this in the mountains.

We shouldn't be finding this stuff in the mountains, because it's tropical plants, and

here's another place you find fossils, lots of places, and these are some leaves,

lots of leaves, leaf fossils, they're just, they're everywhere.

I mean, this is a fossil hunter's paradise, and I found all those, you

know, within probably 30 minutes, 30 -45 minutes, and

now, here is a gold mine, and I thought this one was really interesting,

because, okay, there's the dyke,

that's the Teanaway basalt dyke.

Now, these gold miners, they learned to burrow in, to create, to

make a mine right beside a basalt dyke, so the lava,

it flowed down, at least from, well, let's see, I got it,

I got this picture here I want to show you, let's see, okay, so here it is, okay,

so the Teanaway

lava, it started down here in the Ingalls complex, it flowed up through the cracks,

through the swak formation, and then it flowed out, and that's why we

have 5 ,000 feet of Teanaway basalt, so these

dykes carried the gold up with them, it carried the gold up there, and now, here's the

interesting thing, the gold is in calcite, so the calcite is in the basalt,

and the gold is in the calcite, I'll show you more pictures, I'll show you more about that, okay,

and so anyway, everywhere you go, you find like these abandoned mining camps,

it's really cool, because people were finding a lot of gold there at one

time, okay, and I call this the bottomless hole, I think there is a bottom,

don't want to fall in, probably won't come back out, and then there's a lot of gold mines that are still operating, I just,

there is no road or trail to this mine that is actually in

progress, the guy wasn't around, and he's got his mind gated, and he had some

really nice buildings, and I can't figure out how did he get all that material up that mountain, and

there's no road, I mean you just walk through the brush, you just beat the brush, and you

find these mines that are out there, you also find people you don't want to find either,

that's another story, if you're going to play Indiana Jones, you run across some

situations, and so okay, so now, here's this gold mine, and hopefully the next

slide, yes, okay, so this is the Te Anawe Basalt, this is one of the

dikes, so this guy burrowed right through it, and look at all the calcite on the walls, now that's where you're

going to find your wire gold, okay, and there's a chunk of calcite,

that's where you're going to find your wire gold, right there, and here's a seam of calcite,

right there, you can kind of see the white, it's not the best picture, but anyway, and

so anyway, so here's, you know, a warning, active load mines,

trespassers arrested, punished, you know, and danger, mining claim, no prospecting,

you know, it's kind of cool just hiking around, and you find these places, and then we find the

dynamite boxes, explosive boxes, you know, and this is where they

put dynamite back in the day, when they were mining all this,

and so, okay, so now, now I've kind of given you just a lot of interesting little

tidbits there, so now in Genesis 7 -11, it says, well, I can't hardly read

that, because things are in the way, so anyway, so what this is saying here, is that

Genesis 7 -11, talking about the fountains of the great deep breaking up, and the windows of heaven were opened,

now myself, I believe that that means that there was water shooting up out of the earth, and I think maybe we

have found where the water shot up out of the earth, when I was in Yellowstone, I took that picture of that

buffalo, and I'm thinking, you know, this is, this is kind of the aftermath of the flood,

you know, you think about animals and human beings, they were just, they were living, you know, the Bible talks about, you

know, before the flood happened, people were just living, and marrying, and giving in marriage, they, they were living it

up, they weren't listening to Noah, they weren't heeding Noah's warnings, and human beings were

a lot like that buffalo, just standing there, and then all of a sudden, everything just started erupting out of the ground, and

blowing up, and, and ruined everybody's day, and so

I think that, okay, so anyway, I, I made this little graph

here, so in the beginning, you had the fountains of the great deep, you had, had volcanoes

going off, earthquakes, and then mid -flood, the sedimentary layers were being

laid down, animals were being buried, and that would start the, the fossil

process, and then the end of the flood, you have the mountain ranges rising up, according to Psalms 104,

the ocean basins were being created, and then that was the time when a lot of canyons were being created, and

rivers, and valleys, more fossils, more animals being buried, and then that brought us to the ice

age, which then caused the Missoula flood, and other local floods that happen around the planet,

okay, so in Psalms 104, it talks about the mountains, they're rising up, and as

they're rising up, the ocean basins are going down, and that's where all the flood

waters went, was in the ocean basins, and I believe that this could be the source

right here, because this is the, the mid -Atlantic range, and it wraps around

the earth like, seems on a, like a, seems like on a baseball, and it intersects itself in the Indian

Ocean, and I think that this mountain range could very well be the source for the fountains of the

great deep, that's just, that's, that's a theory of a few different creation scientists,

and so, okay, so here we have this hydrothermal venting

at Endeavor Ridge, now this is, this is off the coast of Washington, where I'm at,

hydrothermal sulfide, sulfate rock samples from the Endeavor segment of the Juan

de Fuca Ridge Northeastern Pacific Ocean, and this hydrothermal

activity created barite, so this is barite right here, this is a really heavy rock for its

size, and so this would have been created for, from hydrothermal

activity, so could this be a leftover, could this be a leftover of the fountains of the great

deep, you know, because we got places all over the world where water is still erupting out

of the ground, we got places like that in Oregon, there's places like that in Wyoming,

they're everywhere, so it's kind of cool, and

so here is your hydrothermal water shooting up out of the, out of the bottom of the

ocean, and it's heavily laden with minerals, so all that has to do

in theory is get into a crack, a crack in a rock, and then the minerals,

they solidify in the crack, and then it can create various kinds of minerals,

so here, here's a chunk of basalt, now look on, look

at that, right there, you got an agate in the basalt, so when this basalt was

flowing, there was a, there was a cavity, and

hydrothermal activity got in there, and it formed that nice little agate right

there, and it's not Ellensburg blue, unfortunately, I can never seem to find any,

so here's a map, now the Appalachian Mountains, now remember I talked about the, the mountains

rising up, so the Appalachian Mountains, I believe that they rose up first

during the flood, that's why they're so wore down, Appalachian Mountains are really round,

then you go west towards the Rocky Mountains, they're a little more jagged, that's because

they rose up, I believe, during mid -flood, and then you have the Cascade Mountain range,

and they're really jagged, so they rose up towards the end of the flood, so

the type of geology I'm talking about here today is actually into the flood type geology,

towards the end, that's why the Cascades are so jagged, that's why Mount Stewart can't

be 92 or 93 million years old, because it's too jagged, and so

there's a picture of the Appalachians, you'll notice how well -rounded they are, that's because the flood

waters eroded them down pretty good, and then here are the Rockies, they're a little more

jagged, another picture of the Rockies, and then we get to the Cascades, and you'll notice how

jagged they really are, and so there's Mount Stewart, Mount Stewart is a beautiful,

baffleth mountain, and I took this picture because this is what a miner

saw every morning when he woke up, imagine living in a place like that, see that every morning in your

backyard, okay, and there's a close -up view of Mount

Stewart, remember it's granodiorite, okay, that's important, and so around

the area of Mount Stewart, we have what's called serpentinite, and serpentinite is a

metamorphic rock, the parent rock of serpentinite is peridotite, so

serpentinite is a metamorphic rock, and look what it says here, it was

created through hydrothermal solutions, there we go again, hydrothermal, this is

water again, hot water, could this be related to the fountains of the great deep shooting up

out of the ground, okay, so hydrothermal solutions concentrated during final stages of magma

crystallization and batholiths, or seawater solutions drawn down into subduction zones,

all right, I don't know how well we're doing for time, I can go on and

on and on, okay, so it's an

ultramafic rock, that means it's got a lot of magnesium, a lot of iron in it,

let's see, forget that one, okay, so here we are, Mark, yes,

probably want to ramp up in about seven minutes, okay, let's do this,

all right, let me just get through all this, and there's pumice going

through serpentinite right there, and okay, so let's

start at this, right, okay, so here's an

evolutionist who admitted that the Roslin formation could be as thick

as 36 ,000 feet, so that's really amazing, and of

course, this book calls this area freak geology, so now we're going to look at the Thorpe Gravels

and Craig's Hill, and the Thorpe Gravels now is at the

top, it's 4 ,000 feet thick, and that's made up of the Thorpe Gravels and the

Ellensburg Formation, and the Ellensburg Formation is a lahar, and that lahar

started at White Pass, which is about 70 -80 miles

from here, and this is where the lahar ended up at, and it flowed so violently, and this is

what your mainline geologists will tell you, a lahar can flow so violently that it doesn't have

time to sort out the rocks, and so you can find heavier rocks

at the top, and even lighter rocks at the bottom, which is the opposite of what you normally would see

like in a turbidite, which is just a underwater mud flow, and so this

Ellensburg Formation, it runs along Highway 90, and it's 4 ,000 feet

deep, and let's see, we're going to get through all of this, all right, now look at this Ellensburg Formation

here, you'll notice how you have all these bent layers, and this reminds me a lot of

looking at the Grand Canyon, and let's see, there's a word

for it now, I'm trying to remember it, an

unconformity, it's almost like we're looking at unconformities here, non -conformity, huh,

non -conformity, yeah, well it could be an unconformity or a non -conformity, and

anyway, they will tell you that, the evolutionists will say, well there's a

lost time here, and actually this is just layer after

layer after layer, and there's no erosion marks between them, and you'll notice how this looks

so similar to this, now that's the little Grand Canyon, okay, at Mount St. Helens,

and then here we have the wave in Northern Arizona, which looks very similar

in a sense to the Ellensburg Formation, and so we're looking at modus operandi here, we're

looking at similarities, and there you have, you've

got big rocks and little rocks, you've got this non

-conformity or unconformity appearance there, and I mean,

this is really amazing how this all ended up there, but this all ended up here catastrophically,

okay, so there, now you look at the Grand Canyon, it looks very similar, doesn't it, okay, so I'm told that a lot

of the Grand Canyon is mud flows, that's what makes up the

sides of the canyons, okay, then we have the Columbia River Basalt Flows, and let's see,

we'll just go through that real quick, and when you're up there at Lion's Rock, you're looking

down into what almost looks like a giant volcano, but yet you have all of these sandstone

features, these huge sandstone pillars down there, and we'll look at those in just a

second, now we have the Wenatchee Formation, now that's the next one, so you got the Ellensburg Formation, you got the

Columbia River Basalt Flows, and you have the Wenatchee Formation, and this reminds me of places

in Utah, where you have the Red Rock, okay, so here we are at Walmart taking a

picture of this, and it reminds me of a place where you could probably find dinosaur bones, you know, it looks

similar to that there, okay, then we have the Roslyn Chumstick Formation, and

according to the evolutionists, it can be 9 to 30 ,000 feet deep, so we're going way over

50 ,000 feet deep here, okay, and in this Chumstick Strata, look at that,

there's a layer that's almost 180 degrees right there, and you

find this kind of stuff all over the area, here's a place where I found tons of fossils,

I slammed on the brakes, slid sideways, and we found lots of fossils there, and there's

one of them that's just full of leaf fossils, that's part of the Roslyn Formation, that's where you find

coal, okay, and then you find these sandstone

pillars, and it looks kind of spooky, because they're just dotted everywhere, which is strong

evidence that an ice flow did not go through here and carve this out, this

is more evidence of a water catastrophe, and what you're looking at here is leftovers after the

water catastrophe going through here, hence, you know, Noah's flood, and look

at that, that's almost 180 degrees right there, and let's see, there's

places where, okay, you find just these sandstone features, they're

just sitting out there in places out in the forest, it

this is Cheese Rock, which is part of the Roslyn Chumstick Formation,

and we're near Roslyn, Washington, and okay, then we

get to the coal, and I talked about the coal already, and then the Teanaway Formation is 5 ,000 feet

deep, and then at the very bottom, we have the Swock Formation,

and okay, so we talked about the basalt dikes, we'll just hurry through that, so the Swock Formation,

there's a basalt dike that's going right through the Swock right there, so a guy could take, could burrow in there,

and maybe find gold, okay, and so the Swock Formation is made up of what's so -called

river rock, which is not river rock, it's a flood deposit, okay, and it's made up of

conglomerate, shale, sandstone, all that stuff, okay,

and so I was going to show you some similarities to Glacier National Park, but yeah, when you

look at Glacier, you look at that, and then you look at this, this is the Swock Formation, notice how

the layers are at about a 90 degree, 90 degrees there, and

right here, you're going to find a huge palm frond about right there, and there it is,

you're looking straight up at it, and here is ripple marks,

and I can't tell you where those ripple marks are at, because by these ripple marks, we

find that, you see what that is?

That's a dinosaur footprint.

Oh, wow, and they're claiming that that's 52 million years old.

Well, we're not going to, we're not advertising where that's going to be, because they'll come and destroy

that.

That dinosaur footprint is like this, it's vertical, the same as

these ripple marks, and this is in the Swock, and there was a Mosasaur tooth

found in here, too, and here you have cross -bedded sandstone by the dinosaur footprint,

by the ripple marks, this is all underwater, this is evidence of a universal flood.

Okay, there you go, and so anyway, this is the end, this is

just a quick synopsis of everything that we went over, 50 ,000 feet of sedimentary layers, wire

gold, agates, thunders, thunder eggs, geodes, diamonds, oh, we didn't get to talk about diamonds, and I

saw a diamond, the gold miner found a diamond in his gold mine.

Well, that makes sense, because of Mount Stuart.

Mount Stuart has all the right minerals that you would

find with diamonds, you see, so this book here that I was showing you, it talks about,

they think that there has to be diamonds in the area, because of the types of minerals, see, remember what I said,

A leads to B, B leads to C, you look for similarities, the modus operandi, okay,

and so, all right, so that'll be the end, I'm done,

that was quick, that's about a three -hour lesson that I put in, that

probably.

Probably did it, what, in an hour?

Wow, and that was a lot to take in, that was a lot of good.

Information, I think we've really been enjoying it.

I was talking on mute, I apologize, I was going to say yes, that was a lot of information, and

Diane, one of our regulars, said that you offered.

To talk about gold, is that right?

Yes.

Yeah, he said that he could come back and talk to us.

Specifically about gold.

Oh, okay, because I missed that, I don't know how I missed that, okay.

Another time in May to give a different lesson, but yeah.

Yeah, Mark is coming back on May 13th.

With a different lesson, but we can, we haven't put anything in print yet, so

we could always adjust that if we need to, we could talk about it afterward.

We do have some questions, Mark, from the audience.

June would like to know if you're still doing tours, can you talk about the.

Tours you still do?

Well, I haven't done one since 2017, since my wife got sick,

I haven't been able to do any of that lately, maybe sometime in the future,

I'm thinking maybe next year I might be able to.

I actually do take quite a few people out, I don't charge anybody at this time,

you know, if somebody comes to me and says, hey, why don't you show me where these fossils are at,

all these neat places, yeah, we can get together on a weekend or something, or I can take a day off from work,

and we can go to these places, so that's kind of the level at what I'm doing now.

Okay, and I think, I think probably we could go ahead and turn off your share

screen now, if you hover up above, and then you can click on a

red button that says stop share.

Okay, yeah, there we go, okay, all right, so next question is,

where was the place in Arizona?

You had a slide from northern Arizona that had orange, an orangish color, where was

that?

Well, that is near Kanab, near Kanab, I think, is

that in Utah?

I think that's in Utah, so it's right there, right there at the northern border

of Arizona and the southern border of Utah, but it's it's in Arizona, it's north of the

Grand Canyon, it's called the Wave of Pariah, and they only allow, I think, 20

people in there at a time, and it was miraculous that I ever got in there, because I got this really good

friend down the street, and he was putting in for the lottery to win that, and he won

several tickets, and he took me there.

Wow.

I got to see the place, and from what I understand, there's thousands of people who put in

for it, and it takes years to finally win a position so that you can legally hike

in there.

That's amazing, wow, praise the.

Lord that you got to do that, and then Jeff is asking, are there palm tree fossils in Washington?

Yes, that, well, the palm leaves, we have the

palm leaf fossils, okay, here in Washington, tons of them in

central Washington, okay, so yeah,

that's one of the fossils we've got.

We're also known for all of our mammoth fossils.

We got a big mammoth dig going on on Claude Felter Road, just down the street here from where I'm

at.

Wow, that's exciting, okay, and on Facebook, we have Brian watching along with us,

and he's asking if the granite earlier, was that blue?

You had some blue rocks?

Okay, the blue rocks, the, okay, I think you're referring to these.

This is agate.

It's not Ellensburg blue.

It wants to be Ellensburg blue.

I wished it was.

The granite, this is the granite here.

Now, it might look blue on the screen, but it's white.

It's white and black.

Back it up a.

Little bit.

Back it up a little bit, because there's a glare on it.

Okay, right there, that's.

Good.

Okay, yeah, and then this here is the agate that I

found in the river when I jumped in.

So, this here, this is the granite, and the little black spots is biotite mica,

and someone's pointed out, they says, well, if that mountain is granite, and it's got

biotite mica in it, there's no way it could have lasted 92 million years, because

biotite mica is very low on the Mohs scale, like about, I don't know, one, two,

or three, something like that, so that mountain should have wore down millions of years ago, if it was a

million years old, you know.

So, that's just another evidence to show that that mountain is young.

It can't be old.

Mark, do you have any,.

Do you have any YouTube presentations of what you've given us tonight?

Oh, yeah, I have a YouTube.

Channel.

It's Tri -Cities Creation Science Club, and it's got a lot of my documentaries that I've been making.

Tri -Cities Creation Science Club.

Type that in.

Tri -Cities Creation Science Club, and then you have a website as well, don't you, Mark?

Yeah, it's Mark's Academy of Science.

That's for my students, mostly.

I'm starting to change it around from electronics to geology, because this coming year, I'm going to be teaching

geology, and I've had so much interest in people wanting to put all these pictures

on my website, so that they can share them of all the explorations I've done.

See, you got to understand, God has really blessed.

I have friends, I'm sorry, they have money, and they're able to pay, and

they have.

They have paid for some of my exploration trips, because they believe that if they pay

me, then I'm going to be able to get out there and present all of this, and I don't

know, maybe one of those guys is listening right now.

Yeah, well, praise the Lord, and it seems like it's a good investment, that you're being a good steward of that resource, because you're

using it to tell people about what you're finding, and how.

It proclaims the glory of the Lord, right?

Yes, oh yeah, definitely.

This is really exciting.

I mean, this is kind of living a dream, because I wanted to do this when I was six, and

then I thought I was never going to get to do it, and then at some point in time, the Lord just started

blessing in an amazing way, and so I get really excited about this stuff,.

You know, because I thought this would never happen.

I have a quick question about the dinosaur footprint.

Yes.

Okay, so I saw the water, the waves were tilted,

and obviously, the dinosaur footprint was tilted.

Was there another dinosaur footprint close by,.

Or did you just capture them?

That's a good question, and we haven't found another one.

The guy at the museum, Will Marin, he says, man, I wish we could find another print.

We've never been able to find another one, but you know, some people, they'll say, well, that looks like

one, but if you saw it in real life, I mean, it looks like a dinosaur footprint.

Now, it's a small one.

It's small.

It's about like that.

It's not big.

I mean, the picture makes it.

Look big.

Yeah, it looks really big.

Yeah, it's about like that.

In Nevada, in Red Rock Canyon, just outside of Las Vegas, that park there

has dinosaur tracks, but they won't tell you where they are.

Yeah, so I tried to find them, but it was like a hundred million degrees, and you didn't want to spend

any time out there.

Yeah, I understand.

Yeah.

Okay, well, I think that about wraps it up for our questions.

So, Mark, if you want to tell people.

One more time how they can find you.

Okay, well, you can find me on Facebook.

You just type in Mark Finkbeiner, and then if you become my friend, I'd be able

to direct you to my other Facebook pages.

One is called the Tri -Cities Creation Science Club.

The other one is called Mark's Academy of Science, or you can go to YouTube, type in Tri

-Cities Creation Science Club, and I got all my documentaries that I've been making,

and then Mark's Academy of Science website.

So, there's a Mark's Academy of Science Facebook.

There's Mark's Academy of Science website.

So, that's how you find me.

Okay.

Mark, I've been listening to.

Somebody by the name of Nick Zentner.

Yes.

Are you familiar with him, and what sort of.

Interactions have you guys had with him?

Well, I listen to him a lot.

In fact, he's the reason why I know what I know.

He's a guy who is actually giving us creation scientists all the ammunition.

I mean, he and a bunch of other geologists, secular geologists, are the people that are

coming up with this 50 ,000 feet of sedimentary layers, and

he's got a lot of information about fossils that are being found in Washington.

In fact, just down the Columbia River, the White Bluffs, there's been saber -toothed tiger

fossils, camel fossils, rhinoceros fossils,

horse, badger, I think beaver, all of that just down the

Columbia River in what we call the White Bluffs area.

Then, the other thing I didn't get a chance to mention was that the Ellensburg Formation, you find the same

fossils they found there.

I'm thinking that the Ellensburg Formation and the White Bluffs Formation is actually the same thing.

I didn't get in quite on time,.

So did you cover the various varves that are shown there in

the flood geology lakes that.

Are from the Ice Age?

Right, I know what you're talking about.

Let's see.

There's one place where there's 40 of them and another place where there's about 90 of them, and so the evolutionists want to

claim that those are each one a separate flood, but if you look at them, they're just laid down on top of each other too

evenly to be.

Separate floods.

Right, yes, and you're talking about that canyon that's by Walla Walla, and I'm trying

to remember the name of the canyon.

It was carved out by an irrigation break in the 1930s, and there's a

plastic dike that runs through a lot of those layers, which gives really strong evidence that they were all laid down

quickly and they were all muddy, and then that dike shot through those layers, and there's a lot

of dikes through these layers throughout the country out there.

Yeah, there's a lot of those sedimentary layers, and they're not just in this canyon.

They're out all over the place, and in fact, we find Mount St.

Helens ash going through those layers, which is another strong evidence that those

layers, they all had to be laid down at the same time while Mount St. Helens was erupting for the

Mount St. Helens ash to go through the layers.

It's kind of like a polystrate fossil in a way.

Because the way it's.

Been presented is it was laid down in between one set of layers

rather than laid down.

Continuously.

Right, yes, that's how they explain it, but they don't tell you that the ash is

actually going through the layers, and I have pictures of that.

That could be another presentation I could do on the Missoula Flood and all that stuff, because see, I

live right in the middle of Missoula Flood territory, so I got all this evidence, you know.

We got lots of mammoths being dug up right here, lots of

Mount St. Helens ash, and another thing is that Mount St. Helens ash is pure,

so when Mount St. Helens erupted in 1980, and I was here when it erupted, you know,

it left a half an inch of ash in different places, and it only took a year or

less for that ash to just go away.

But when you look in those varves that you're talking about, there's ash layers and they're

all pure.

They're not contaminated, so that's another evidence that those layers had to be laid down quickly

while Mount St. Helens was erupting during the Missoula Flood, and

this place, it was covered in water called Lake Lewis, and so Lake Lewis was so

heavy it caused Mount St. Helens to erupt while the Missoula Flood was happening,

and all that.

Water dammed up here.

Okay, so we're going to go ahead and wrap things up, and Mark, you did tell everybody where they can find you, and as

for us, we're Creation Fellowship Santee, and again, most of our past videos of our different

speakers are on our YouTube channel.

Just search for Creation Fellowship Santee, S -A -N -T -E -E.

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So thank you so much for that, Mark.

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