Geology and the Flood Washington State

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Mark Finkbeiner takes us on a tour of the Missoula flood region

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a and introduce you. So here we go. So our title tonight is geology.
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In the central cascades. Terry did you disappear?
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No I'm still here. Can you hear me? Yes but just now. What? Just I mean just right now if you were saying something we didn't hear it before you started to say the title.
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No I got the title from you guys. So geology and the flood in central
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Washington. Yeah. So let me quick give a background on our technology this year.
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I suspect because we're a organization that's spreading the word of Jesus but who can say.
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So it's a little bit hard to keep up with it. So okay I'm ready to pray and then get started.
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Are you guys good? Let's do it. All right let's pray. Dear heavenly father thank you so much for this group this group of friends that we can come together and learn more about you and your creative just a creative wonder that we see all around us.
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And thank you for showing us your creativity and your love for us through the things that we can see and find.
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Okay so I'm gonna hit go live and Mark did you say you had a joke to start us off with?
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No he doesn't. He didn't have a joke to start us off with. Oh I just saw some good chemistry jokes the other day but I forget them.
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I know I know one of my favorites is what do you do with the chemist when it when he dies? What? Bury him.
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to sign up for our mailing list so that you won't miss any of our upcoming speakers. Tonight we're pleased to have with us
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Mark Finkbeiner. Mark is the founder of the Tri -Cities Creation Science Club where he holds creation science seminars every other month of the year.
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He also founded Mark's Academy of Science where he teaches geology and electronics to homeschoolers and science adventure tours where he does field trips mostly on the
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Missoula flood caused by Noah's flood. His college education is in criminal justice, electronics, automotive technology, geology, and he has graduated from two police academies.
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Mark received Jesus Christ into his heart at the age of 12. He is now into film production making flood geology videos in the
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Pacific Northwest and filming physics and Bible experiments. For about three years he and two other guys had their own creation science
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TV program called Creation Foundations. His biggest project at this time is uncovering very profound geological evidence of a universal flood in Central Washington that very few creation scientists seem to know about and tonight he joins us from in front of his rock collection so we're excited to hear what he has to share with us.
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Mark go ahead. All right well thank you very much. Thanks for inviting me here and so that I can share this information that very few people seem to know about.
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First to start off I'd like to give you just a little bit more background before I start.
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When I was six years old I knew I wanted to be a scientist and a mathematician and so by the time
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I got into sixth grade all I ever heard about was evolution and the eight men and I thought well since no pastors or teachers in churches no one ever teaches on evidence that supports creation
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I just thought well I guess science is not on our side and so I gave up the pursuit. I thought science was just on the side of the evolutionists.
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Then one day when I was 25 years old I heard a pastor on the radio and he was talking about all this scientific evidence that supports the genesis account the creation account in the bible and I was just floored.
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I just thought what in the world is going on you know and that was a whole life changer.
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So my whole life changed before me and so I no longer had the the same goals dreams visions you know and so what
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I did is I heard that at the our local bible bookstore you could get books on this thing called creation science that I'd never heard of and so I bought all the books.
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I bought tons of books. I bought all the books from ICR and I read them all and then that led to eventually doing field trips and I mean
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God has really blessed in this ministry. I mean he has had people donate an enormous amount of money to this ministry.
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I just you know I can't believe the the miracles that have occurred here and so here
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I am about what 30 years later and now I'm getting to do these kind of things.
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So anyway so today what I want to do like Terry was saying
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I'm going to give a presentation on some geologic evidence in central
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Washington that supports the universal flood. Now let's talk about where all this began.
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Now that's kind of a strange picture. Well that's my wife there holding a rifle and that's me holding a rifle.
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We were married in 94 and then we did a lot of bear and deer hunting in the
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Cascades in central Washington and so this is probably about 1995 -96 and you know this is the strangest thing.
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Okay now I had geology already, had geology, had biology and so I knew a little something about geology at this time and as we hunted around central
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Washington, the Blewett Pass, Kittitas and Chelan County, there was just there was something in my mind that was saying
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Mark this is a weird place. This is not normal here.
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This is something that you need to investigate and I learned about the history of this place.
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Chief Joseph you know I learned he rode his horse through where highway 97 is now down there by where Blewett, where the city of Blewett used to be which was a gold mining town.
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They had a 20 stamp mill there and they mined gold I forget how many years probably 20 years something like that and so then
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I got on the internet to look up places to go rock hunting because I've always wanted to go rock hunting you know because I hadn't got into it that much and so I found this website and I'm going to get to that yet in fact
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I'll tell you what before we get to that website I just want to show you some things here that I found on the internet.
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This is a giant geode that's found in Cowlitz County. This is the south part of the
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Cascade Mountains a giant geode that was just found recently and then this is a big chunk of jade that was found in Darrington Washington and so we've got a lot of strange and unusual geology around here okay and there's the big chunk of jade that they hauled out of there okay and so this is where we're going to go and we're going to go right there between Leavenworth and Cle Elum highway 97 and you'll notice where it shows sandstone formations and lion's rock now
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I want you to get familiar with this now remember where lion's rock is at the bottom of your screen we got sandstone formations
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Cle Elum is more to the right of the screen and then just above Cle Elum it shows slick rock now that's really important for our study so I want you to get accustomed to that and of course to the right you have the
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Wenatchee River way up the north you have Lake Chelan which is a whole nother piece of geology we could talk about okay and so now we're kind of zooming in just a little bit more there's there's
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Peel Point there's Ellensburg Cle Elum all that okay and and then you'll notice we're kind of zooming in on Miner's Cabins down below is the
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Tianna Way to the left left hand corner is Cheese Rock and then of course up towards the top we have lots of sandstone formations you got lion's rock all that's really important to try to remember in your head okay and and of course now once again on the right side you have
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Peel Point and that's a huge cliff lots of thunder eggs are found over there and below we have
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Cle Elum Washington and then just below Cle Elum we have Roslyn Washington okay now okay so there's
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Roslyn now you see the the red line now that red line right there that represents all these coal mines that run from Roslyn to Cle Elum now they're no longer mining those mines now they started that in I let's see
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I had this all memorized it was I think they started in 1889 something like that and then they mined those mines till around I think 1963 and so there's a lot of really interesting things lots of interesting history and geology here so see
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I'm kind of getting you prepped here I'm giving you a foundation for how unique this area is now this is really amazing now look at the city of Roslyn right there okay see the city of Roslyn okay now there is their cemetery a lot of people died in Roslyn in fact the the city of Roslyn shouldn't even call it a city at one time it was called a ghost town there's between five hundred and a thousand people that live there
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I think there's more dead people in the cemetery than there are people that actually live there they had a huge mining accident there in one of their mines
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I think it was mine number one where 45 people were killed in the late 1800s and let's see okay let's back up okay so one of their mines one of their coal mines has 56 miles of tunnels and that mine goes 2 ,700 feet down in the ground okay so now you think about well what makes coal well if there was all this coal and by the way they still say to this day that they they estimate that there's still two that there's still 235 million tons of coal left to to be mined out well where does all that coal come from well lush vegetation that's how it got there and then as we go west we're going to run into all these tropical plants like palm fronds various kinds of leaves about 20 miles away so the further you go west the less coal you have near highway 97 near Cle Elum and Leavenworth you can find coal but right here around Roslyn there's an enormous amount of coal in there and so this is evidence that at one time things were a lot different more pristine more jungle like and then of course we have this universal flood and it creates all this coal and by the way the oh boy
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I'm trying to think of the word now I'll think of it here in a minute what what the catalyst for coal is is oh it's that stuff that comes out of volcanoes but anyway if you watch one of my videos
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I document all that how coal is really formed so coal is formed quite quickly and volcanic action has a lot to do with coal formation well we've got a lot of volcanic action that occurs around this area that that did occur at one time okay so now with all that in mind now when when we were hunting there at Blewett I became really fascinated with the area and I started looking up websites to find thunder eggs and geodes because I heard that this is a great place to go hunting for thunder eggs and geodes and upon my research
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I could not believe what I saw I mean it was like God was telling me this is an amazing place and here this confirms it now now get this this is not creation scientists that are teaching this this is evolutionists that are teaching this they're saying that there's 50 ,000 feet did you hear that 50 ,000 feet of sedimentary layers and lava flows in the
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Kittitas area now that's part of highway 97 that's between Cle Elum and Leavenworth now get this now
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I'm going to show these books in my slideshow but just this one book alone look how thick that is this is just the history of that area this is just some of the history then they wrote another book here about all the gold mines and all the amazing geology in this area in fact this book here this book about gold mining they call this area freak geology now that's the secularists that's the evolutionists that are saying this they call it freak geology because they can't figure it out because you see they won't accept the genesis account of the flood and so they're blown away by it and and they're they're trying to do a lot of mental gymnastics trying to figure out how to explain this place through uniformitarianism and they can't do it because all this stuff has been laid down uh uh at a very very high you know at 50 ,000 feet of sedimentary layers and then here's another book that a guy wrote and he's blown away by it he's a geologist and he can't he just can't believe that some of these sedimentary layers can be 30 ,000 feet thick now we're going to talk about all of that okay then
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I got this notebook I got all this information off the internet that I've been studying so I can learn the area real well and this this is just the beginning of it a lot of geologists are just blown away by this area but they can't get comfortable because they won't accept the genesis account okay so anyway so this first drawing that you're looking at here this is all the layers that are laid down horizontally so this is what it looked like at one time in the past now both creationists and evolutionists will agree that all these layers were laid down horizontally first all right so it starts out with the
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Ellensburg Formation and then the Columbia River and then the Wenatchee Formation and then um the the
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Teano or no then the Roslyn Chumstick Formation then the Teanaway Formation which is a lava flow that they claim is 5 ,000 feet thick then there's the
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Teanaway Formation below that and that's made up of sandstone uh conglomerate a shale and they're claiming that that can be up to 28 ,000 feet deep okay that's like three grand canyons so if this really is 50 ,000 feet of sedimentary layers and lava flows and this is 10 grand canyons deep okay and so now here's the other drawing that they made they they gave this to all the the the people that attended their field trips so you'll notice that these evolutionists now they talk about the
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Swak Formation which is sandstone and shale they say well that's 52 million years ago and then they have the
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Teanaway they have the Roslyn Formation and then the Columbia River Flood Basalts and then the
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Thorpe and Ellensburg Formation and of course below the Swak you have in the
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Ingalls Complex now the the Ingalls Complex is really interesting now yeah you see now if there's any kids listening here now you gotta you gotta think about rocks now now
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I graduated from two police academies one of my majors in criminal justice and one thing you learn is is you learn that a leads to b and b leads to c and c leads to d and that's how the
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FBI looks at it too so you start you start bringing all this evidence together and one piece of evidence leads to another you you pick up a rock and it's like a fingerprint it tells you what's been there it gives you an idea okay how did the rock form what is in the rock and then that kind of gives you an idea of what is in the area all right so this is bare right right here um let's see we're going to talk about bare right here in a moment okay now the
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Mount Stuart -Batholith that you see on the on the far left now they claim that that's 93 million years old well when you look at Mount Stuart it's very jagged and Mount Stuart is mostly made up of of granodiorite and here is granodiorite okay hopefully you can see that you see all of the brown specks in there okay that's biotype magma or make biotype uh mica biotype mica and it's got a class feldspar in it all right more so than granite here is granite hopefully you can see that okay all right and so granite and granodiorite are very similar all right so Mount Stuart is a batholith that means it was an underground magma chamber now it's above the ground and so the evolutionists they claim that this batholith it rose up out of the ground okay so as it rose up all these horizontal layers that were horizontal at one time they all moved up like this at an angle like about a 90 degree angle now some of the roslin formation is at 180 degrees almost at 180 degrees all right now like i was saying about rocks you got to study rocks and you got to treat rocks like they're a fingerprint and uh and so the ingles complex is what we call iron peak and it is made up of argillite uh gray whack conglomerate church uh those kind of things now argillite it is it's it's basically it's mud it's dried up mud some people say it's metamorphic it metamorphed into argillite so so they're claiming that the ingles complex a lot of it is mud it's got church on it it's got conglomerate now conglomerate if you don't know what that is that's just simply a lot of rocks all cemented together so there's a piece of conglomerate right there so it's a sedimentary rock now so it was all laid down i believe by a catastrophe a water catastrophe a mud flow and here's another chunk of conglomerate okay so that that's conglomerate right there all right um so the ingles complex you can see that's really thick uh very deep and that was all laid down by water okay the swock formation was laid down by water the tianoway flood basalt now it has more silica in it than the the columbia river flood basalt so now the columbia river flood basalt now though that flood that came from dykes um uh south east washington northeast oregon idaho and nevada and flowed this way and i would say that that happened sometime kind of like mid flood maybe towards the end of the flood somewhere in there so we've got flood basalts here in washington that are about well according to evolutionists it's two to two and a half miles deep and there's 300 flows and they claim that let's see they claim that they're oh boy i i used to be able to do all this from memory so there's 300 flood flows but they claim that it took so many years for each one of those flows well if that was true then that there would be almost 17 ,000 years between each flow but yet we don't see any erosion marks between those flows and we don't see any evidences of lakes or rivers between those flows so we know all those flows flowed quickly one right after another because there's no erosion marks between them okay same thing with the uh the the tianoway formation now like i was saying the tianoway formation has got a lot more silica in it than the columbia river basalt that's why in the in the bluet pass area you can find all of these these geodes see i found all of these here okay because the more silica you have in your basalt the more likely you're going to find agates geodes thunder eggs and maybe some of you saw my 30 minute video that i did on the formation of geodes and thunder eggs and so found this here found a lot of stuff okay i mean i could bore you all day oh and i got a good story about these two rocks right here these are almost ellensburg blue now if these were ellensburg blue they would be worth around six seven hundred dollars okay so that's another thing that we're famous for here uh far as i know nobody really has this quality of agate in the world um and so the way i found these i was looking for agates in the river on first creek near ellensburg and that and that creek follows highway 97 for a few miles and i was really hot so i just dumped into i just jumped into first creek i'm laying down in the river i opened my eyes in the water and lo and behold i found this guy right here and i did it a second time with this guy right here okay so there's you know i got a lot of good memories of that place and uh here's here's another uh geode by the way the difference between a geode and nodules that a geode is hollow okay and you got crystals in there and the nodule is is um let's see what i have oh yeah so this is a nodule right here there's there's no cavity all right by the way if you want to see what happens okay i got this guy this here this is a guy that wanted to become a geode or a thunder egg but never made it okay so you see the big cavity right there um boy by the time i get done with this i'm gonna have my workout for me okay so um let's see okay so next slide okay so now here's what they're saying they're saying that there's 50 ,000 feet of sedimentary layers and lava flows uh in that area and ellensburg washington sits at the bottom of an anticline so they're saying that this whole area the central washington area is an anticline and ellensburg is sitting at the bottom of the anticline so an anticline is a fold of rock layers that slope downward on both sides of a common crest and declines form when rocks are compressed by plate tectonic forces they can be as small as a hill or as large as a mountain range well this is a huge mountain range and so they're saying that ellensburg is actually sitting on 50 ,000 feet of sedimentary layers and lava flows okay so that's what's making this area so amazing now there's actually a creation science museum that just opened up in this area a few years ago and uh will marron he's the curator of the museum and he's a lot of fun to talk to he knows the area real well he and i we've gotten together together a few times went fossil hunting i've interviewed him i put it on facebook hopefully some of you have seen that video um and then you know he's got this this model of a of a backbone of a dinosaur uh he's just got all kinds of neat things uh to look at and these are just some of the pictures and this is a field trip that i did to bluet pass which is along highway 97 of course and there's the ellensburg formation we're going to talk about that that's really an amazing place uh lots of opportunities for gold panning gold mining um okay so here's a here's a map okay so there's bluet right there at an elevation of 4100 feet um as you go north uh you go to leavenworth trying to just kind of help you get an idea um trying to help you get a mental picture of everything that i'm talking about here now okay so here is the city of bluet um in 1878 and uh let's see the the big building on the right is your 20 stamp mill and the little building just in front of it that's your dynamite house your powder house and over to the left is a public school um and so that's what it looked like in 1878 um that's a stamp mill and now here's what it looks like now there's nothing it's gone and if you walk up the hill there you can still find gold mines i found a gold mine up there and oh probably about 15 20 years ago and i've tried to go back to and i can't find it um also there's a treasure in there uh there's a story about a huge treasure chest that a guy buried and it's supposed to still be there and far as i know nobody's found it okay so there's there's another view of the city of bluet and i'm taking a picture on the other side of the highway right behind me there's all kinds of abandoned gold mines uh just a fascinating place there's that 20 stamp mill again um and in this book called buried treasures the pacific northwest it talks about this this huge treasure that one of these gold miners he came from another country and he had all this gold that he brought with him uh and he buried it he died and nobody's been able to find it but it's supposed to still be there amazing and uh there is this this is what they used before they had a 20 stamp mill and it's called an arastra and that's how they ground their uh uh all of their their rocks to get the gold okay now there's a really cool story now behind me that's the pahistian river it used to be back in the 1800s and this is why people started gold mining there people would just walk up to that river and pull out gold nuggets that's how it got started imagine that just walk over the river and start picking up gold nuggets and here's another arastra now this is at the ghost town of liberty which is just about 25 miles south of bluet um and this is the only arastra that's working in the united states that's what they tell me it's the only one and that's the ghost town there of liberty and there there's what's left of the bluet stamp mill uh and okay and then of course i showed you that book about uh bluet gold the history of the pahistian mining district uh all of that history there's just a lot of history there uh there's been different people who've written uh articles uh books pamphlets all kinds of stuff about this area because it's so fascinating there you got one about the liberty basin geology uh gold about all the gold the wire gold that's been found there there's a lot of wire gold now wire gold is really important now for our study and there's what liberty looked like back um 100 years ago or so and that's what it looked like i love all these old pictures and they all dressed up to play tug -of -war on the 4th of july um and now this is what it looks like today um and so uh interesting things to about this place is wire gold ellensburg blue egg fossils diamonds oh boy we're going to talk about that lost treasure you know how do we get diamonds there and of course the 50 000 feet of sedimentary layers and lava flows and uh let's see what to look for to find the blue agate well there is the blue agate that's what it looks like when you find the real thing and there are people there who live around that area and they know where to find this stuff and they're not telling anybody and this is the person right here this this is the man and his wife they own this rock and gem store they're in the forest and they know right where to go i asked them can you tell me where it's at no they're not going to tell me and they say it's really hard to get to uh to find the ellensburg blue agate so this is what they found and i asked the guy well how much you selling that bigger rock there for he says i'm selling it for six thousand dollars six thousand that that ellensburg blue agate and by the way some of the experts will tell you that the hardness of that rock can go anywhere from seven to eight eight mo scale okay in fact people have been so amazed about the ellensburg blue agate they had a phd guy come i believe from new zealand um his last name was hoskins and he came here and did a phd dissertation on the ellensburg blue agate now this um this valley here now just just below this valley is ellensburg okay now they say that at one time there was a there was a whole bunch of water that flowed through here um through through that pass that mountain it's passed there and it ripped up all the agate that was in the basalt by the way the host rock is basalt that's where the ellensburg blue agate comes from and it ripped it all up and that's why down here in the valley you can find a lot of ellensburg blue there's a ranch called the tomahawk ranch and they will allow you on their property for a fee they don't let you dig you just have to walk around and you can pick up the ellensburg blue see one as far as i know they they haven't been doing that for a while so that's just it's just these are just really interesting things now gold um now gold is fascinating to think about it really is because what does the evolutionists say what what did they say about the formation of gold well they say that there was two stars came together and hit each other something like that and they they claim that gold is extraterrestrial that it landed on this planet that's how gold that's how they say gold got here but you see they can never explain how it was actually created because that would be violating the first law of thermodynamics because you can't just create an element you have to have other elements to create an element you know you learn that in chemistry but these guys they're trying to they're trying to tell us how gold was formed but you can't do that without violating the first law of thermodynamics and i wrote an article on that that that's another i would love to come back on here and explain all that sometime about the formation of gold and how it it it had to be created miraculously okay so now with that in mind here is wire gold now bluet is known for its wire gold now as far as i know there's very few places in the world where you can find wire gold and bluet's got a lot of it now wire gold gold is usually in calcite or or silica uh quartz around bluet and so i talked to this gold miner and he's very famous here in washington he's been a main speaker at central washington university they allow him to come in and they allow him to teach and he says that he gets a lot of his gold out of calcite now calcite let's see all right so this this great big i pulled this out of pahastion river there's calcite so in theory i should be able to break all this up and find gold in it okay and hopefully i can set this now without dropping it okay um so so anyway wire gold is the purest form of gold and if you ever pick up a nugget out of a stream at one time it was wire so a gold nugget was wire at one time and bluet has got a lot of wire gold and these two brothers back in i think the 1940s 1950s they found tons of wire gold out there in the mountains and i believe this was their cabin right here the ace of diamonds former mining operation the early 1900s 120 000 in gold was mined here um and of course you know 120 000 then i mean compared that to today what's that close to a million um and so you find a lot of these cabins just all over the place and that was kind of a spooky find i was just you know beating the brush and i come upon this cabin here and um so okay so now let's talk about the shale deposits and tropical fossils that are found in them so here is a tropical fossil that i found palm fronds i've got buckets full of these guys and you find these in giant mud flows in the mountains out there and they're all over you just dig for them they're not hard to find okay and so here we found all those palm fronds on the the left side of the hill and the way i got it figured that must be a giant mud flow because all this stuff is broke up you know because because you got to remember when all this was laid down in the beginning at the flood it was all horizontal and it was all together so it solidified well then the bible it talks about the mountains rising up in psalms 104 so the mountains rose up broke up the the horizontal uh rocks like these sedimentary rocks broke them up and then you have these giant mud flows and you find this stuff all broken up in the dirt okay and it's weird because you find this in the mountains we shouldn't be finding this stuff in the mountains because it's tropical plants and here's another place you find fossils lots of places and these are some leaves lots of leaves leaf fossils um they're just they're everywhere i mean this is a fossil hunter's paradise and i found all those you know within probably 30 minutes 30 45 minutes and uh now here is a gold mine and i thought this one was really interesting because okay there's the next picture now there is a dike there that's that's the teanaway basalt dike now these gold miners they learned to burrow in to create to uh to make a a mine right beside a basalt dike so the lava it flowed down at least from um well let's see i got it i got this picture here i want to show you let's see okay so here it is okay so the teanaway um lava it started down here in the ingles complex it flowed up through the cracks through the swak formation and then it flowed out and that's why we have uh 5 000 feet of teanaway basalt so these dikes carried the gold up with them they carried the gold up there and now here's interesting thing the gold is in calcite so the calcite is in the basalt and the gold is in the calcite i'll show you more pictures i'll show you more about that okay um and so anyway you everywhere you go you find like these abandoned mining camps uh it's really cool um because people were finding a lot of gold there at one time okay and i call this the bottomless hole i think there is a bottom um don't want to fall in probably won't come back out and then there's a lot of gold mines that are still operating i just there is no road or trail to this uh this mine that is actually in progress the guy wasn't around and he's he's got his mind gated and he had some really nice buildings and i can't figure out how did he get all that material up that mountain and there's no road i mean you just you just walk through the brush you just beat the brush and you find these mines that are out there um you also find people you don't want to find either uh that's another story um if you're going to play indiana jones you you uh you run across some situations and so okay so now here's this gold mine and hopefully the next slide yes okay so this is the tiana way basalt this this is one of the dikes so this guy burrowed right through it and look at all the calcite on the walls now that's where you're going to find your wire gold okay and there's a chunk of calcite that's where you're going to find your wire gold right there and here's a seam of calcite right there you can kind of see the white it's not the best picture but anyway and so anyway so here's you know a warning active load mines will uh trespassers arrested punished you know and danger mining claim no prospecting you know it's kind of cool just hiking around and you you find these places and then we find the dynamite boxes explosive boxes you know um and this is where they put dynamite back in the day when they were mining all this um and so okay so now now i've kind of given you a just a lot of interesting little tidbits there so now in genesis 7 11 it says um i can't hardly read that because uh things are in the way um so anyway so what this is saying here is that genesis 7 11 talking about the fountains of the great deep breaking up and the windows of heaven were opened now myself i believe that that means that there was water shooting up out of the earth and i think maybe we have found where the water shot up out of the earth um when i was in yellowstone i took that picture of that buffalo and i'm thinking you know this is this is uh kind of the aftermath of the flood you know you think about animals and human beings they were just they were living you know the bible talks about you know before the flood happened people were just living and marrying and giving in marriage they they were living it up they weren't listening to noah they weren't heeding noah's warnings and human beings were a lot like that buffalo just standing there and then all of a sudden everything just started erupting out of the ground and blowing up and and ruined everybody's day um and so i think that okay so anyway i i made this little graph here so in the beginning you had the fountains of the great deep yet had volcanoes going off earthquakes and then mid -flood uh the sedimentary layers were being laid down uh animals were being buried and that would start the the fossil process and then the end of the flood you have the mountain ranges rising up according to psalms 104 the ocean basins were being created and then that was the time when a lot of canyons were being created and rivers and valleys more fossils more animals being buried and then that brought us to the ice age which then caused the missoula flood and other local floods that happened around the planet okay so in psalms 104 it talks about the mountains they're rising up and as they're rising up the ocean basins are going down and that's where all the flood waters went was in the ocean basins and i believe that this could be the source right here um because this is the the mid -atlantic range and it wraps around the earth like seems on it like a seems like on a baseball and it intersects itself in the indian ocean and i think that this mountain range could very well be the source for the fountains of the great deep that's just that's that's a theory of of a few different uh creation scientists um and so okay so here we have this hydrothermal venting um at endeavor ridge now this is this is off the coast of washington where i'm at um hydrothermal sulfide sulfate rock samples from the endeavor segment of the juan de fuca ridge northeastern pacific ocean and this hydrothermal activity created barite so this is barite right here this is a really heavy rock for its size um and so this would have been created for from hydrothermal activity so could this be a leftover could this be a leftover of the fountains of the great deep you know because we got places all over the world where water is still erupting out of the ground um we got places like that in oregon there's places like that in wyoming um they're everywhere um so it's kind of cool and so here is your hydrothermal water shooting up out of the out of the bottom of the ocean and it's heavily laden with minerals so all that has to do in theory is get into a crack a crack in a rock and then the minerals they solidify in the crack and then it can create various kinds of minerals um so here here's a chunk basalt now look on look at that right there you got an agate in the basalt so when this basalt was flowing there was a there was a cavity and hydrothermal activity got in there and it formed that nice little agate right there and it's not ellensburg blue unfortunately i can never seem to find any um so here's a map now the appalachian mountains now remember i i talked about the the the mountains rising up so the appalachian mountains i believe that they rose up first during the flood uh that's why they're so wore down appalachian mountains are really round then you go west towards the rocky mountains they're a little more jagged that's because they rose up i believe during mid -flood and then you have the cascade mountain range and they're really jagged so they rose up towards the end of the flood so the type of geology i'm talking about here today is actually into the flood type geology towards the end that's why the cascades are so jagged that's why mount stewart can't be 92 or 93 million years old because it's too jagged um and so there's a picture of the appalachians you'll notice how well rounded they are that's because the the flood waters eroded them down pretty good and then here are the rockies they're a little more jagged another picture of the rockies and then we get to the cascades and you'll notice how jagged they really are and so there's mount stewart mount stewart is a beautiful batholith mountain um and i took this picture because this is what a miner saw every morning when he woke up imagine living in a place like that see that every morning in your backyard okay and there's a close -up view of of mount stewart remember it's granodiorite okay that's important and so around the the area of of mount stewart we have what's called serpentinite and serpentinite is a metamorphic rock the parent rock of serpentinite is peridotite so serpentinite is is a metamorphic rock and and look what it says here it was created through hydrothermal solutions there we go again hydrothermal this is water again hot water could this be related to the fountains of the great deep shooting up out of the ground okay so hydrothermal solutions concentrated during final stages of magma crystallization and batholiths or seawater solutions drawn down into subduction zones all right um i don't know how well we're doing for time i can go on and on and on um okay um so it's an ultramafic rock that means it's got a lot of magnesium a lot of iron in it um let's see forget that one okay so here we are yes um probably want to wrap up in about seven minutes okay let's let's do this all right let me just get through all this and um there's pumice going through uh serpentinite right there and okay so let's start at this right okay so here's a here's an evolutionist who admitted that the the roslin formation could be as thick as 36 000 feet so that's that's really amazing and of course this book calls this area freak geology so now we're going to look at the thorpe gravels uh and craig's hill and this the thorpe gravel now is at the top it's 4 000 feet thick uh and that's made up of the thorpe gravels and the ellensburg formation and the ellensburg formation is a lahar and that lahar started at a white pass which is about 70 80 miles from here and this is where the lahar ended up at and it flowed so violently and this is what your your mainline geologist will tell you a lahar can flow so violently that it doesn't have time to sort out the rocks and so um the you can find heavier rocks at the top and even lighter rocks at the bottom which is the opposite of what you normally would see like in a turbidite which is just a underwater mud flow and so uh this ellensburg formation it runs along highway 90 and it's 4 000 feet deep and let's see we're going to get through all of this all right now look at this ellensburg formation here you'll notice how you have all these bent layers and this reminds me a lot of looking at the grand canyon and uh um let's see there there's a word for it now i'm trying to trying to remember it um uh an unconformity it's almost like we're looking at unconformities here non -conformity huh non -conformity yeah well it could be an unconformity or a non -conformity and uh anyway they will tell you that the evolutionists will say well there's there's a lost time here um and actually this is just layer after layer after layer and there's no erosion marks between them and you'll notice how this looks so similar to this now that's the little grand canyon okay at uh at mount saint helens and then here we have the wave in northern arizona which looks very similar in a sense to the ellensburg formation and so we're looking at modus operandi here we're looking at similarities and there you have you've got big rocks and little rocks um you you've got this uh non -conformity or unconformity appearance there um and i mean this is really amazing how this all ended up there but this all ended up here catastrophically okay so there now you look at the grand canyon it looks very similar doesn't it okay so i'm told that a lot of the grand canyon is mud flows that's what makes up the the sides of the canyons okay then we have the columbia river basalt flows and let's see we'll just go through that real quick and when you're up there at lion's rock you're looking down into what almost looks like a giant volcano but yet you have all of these sandstone features these huge sandstone pillars down there and we'll look at those in just a second now we have the wenatchee formation now that's the next one so you got the ellensburg formation you got the the columbia river basalt flows and you have the wenatchee formation and this reminds me of places in utah where you have the red rock okay so here we are at walmart taking a picture of this and it reminds me of a place where you could probably find dinosaur bones you know it looks similar to that there okay then we have the rosalind chumstick formation and it can and according to the evolutionists it could be nine to thirty thousand feet deep so we're going way over fifty thousand feet deep here okay and in this chumstick strata look at that there there's a a layer that's almost 180 degrees right there and you find this kind of stuff all over the area here's a place where i found tons of fossils i slammed on the brake slid sideways and we found lots of fossils there and there's one of them that's just full of leaf fossils that's part of the rosalind formation that's where you find coal okay and then you find these these sandstone pillars and it looks kind of spooky because they're just dotted everywhere which is strong evidence that uh an ice flow did not go through here and carve this out this is more evidence of a water catastrophe and what you're looking at here is leftovers after the water catastrophe going through here hence you know noah's flood and look at that that's almost 180 degrees right there and let's see there there's places where okay you find just these these sandstone features they're just sitting out there in places out in the forest it looks kind of weird um and and there's this is cheese rock which is part of the rosalind chum stick formation and we're near rosalind washington and okay then we get to the coal and i talked about the coal already and then the tiana way formation is 5 000 feet deep and then at the very bottom we have the swak formation and um okay so we talked about the basalt dikes we'll just hurry through that so the swak formation there's a basalt dike that's going right through the swak right there so a guy could take could burrow in there and maybe find gold okay and so the swak formation is made up of what's so -called river rock which is not river rock it's a flood deposit okay and it's made up of conglomerate shale sandstone all that stuff okay and so i was going to show you some similarities to nat glacier national park but yeah when you look at glacier you look at that and then you look at this this is the swak formation notice how the the layers are are at about a 90 degree 90 degrees there and right here you're going to find a huge palm frond about right there and there it is you're looking straight up at it and here is uh ripple marks and i can't tell you where those ripple marks are at because by these ripple marks we find that you see what that is that's a dinosaur footprint oh wow and they're claiming that that's 52 million years old well we're not going to we're not advertising where that's going to be because they'll come and destroy that that dinosaur footprint is like this you're it's vertical the same as these ripple marks and this is in the swak and there was a mosasaur tooth found in here too and here you have cross -bedded sandstone by the dinosaur footprint by the ripple marks this is all underwater this is evidence of a universal flood okay there you go and so anyway this is the end this is just a quick synopsis of everything that we went over uh 50 ,000 feet of sedimentary layers wire gold agates thunders thunder eggs geodes diamonds oh we didn't get to talk about diamonds and i saw a diamond the gold miner found a diamond in his gold mine well that makes sense because of mount stewart mount stewart has all the right minerals uh that that you would that you would find with diamonds you see so this this book here that i was showing you it talks about they think that there has to be diamonds in the area because of the types of minerals see remember what i said uh a leads to b b leads to c you look for similarities the modus operandi okay and uh so all right so i that'll be the end i'm done that was quick that's about three hour lesson that i put in that probably probably did it what in an hour wow and um that was a lot to take in that was a lot of good information i think we've really been enjoying it was talking on mute i apologize i was gonna say yes and it was a lot of information and diane one of our um regulars said i said that you offered to talk about gold is that right yes yeah he said that he could come back and talk to us specifically about gold oh okay because i missed that i don't know how i missed that okay i'm shy about another time in may to give a different lesson but yeah yeah mark is coming back on may 13th um with a different lesson but but we can we haven't put anything in print yet so we could always adjust that if we need to we could talk about it afterward we we do have some questions mark from the audience um june would like to know if you're still doing tours can you talk about the tours you still do well um i haven't done one since 2017 uh since my wife got sick um i haven't been able to do any of that lately um maybe sometime in the future i'm thinking maybe next year i might be able to um i i actually do take quite a few people out i don't charge anybody at this time um you know if somebody comes to me and says hey why don't you show me where these fossils are at all these neat places yeah we can get together on a weekend or something or i can take a day off from work and and we can go to these places so that that's kind of the level at what i'm doing now okay and um i think i think probably we could go ahead and turn off your um share screen now if you hover up above and then you can um click on a red button that says stop share okay yeah there we go okay all right so um next question is um where was the place in northern arizona you had a slide from northern arizona that had orange an orangish color yeah where was that well that is near kanab uh it's near kanab i think is that in utah i think that's in utah so it's right there right there at the northern border of arizona and the southern border of utah but it's in it's in arizona it's north of the grand canyon uh it's called the wave of pariah and their own they only allow i think 20 people in there at a time and it was miraculous that i ever got in there because i got this really good friend down the street and he was putting in for the lottery to win that and he won several tickets and he took me there wow i got to see the place and and from what i understand there's thousands of people who put in for it and it takes years to finally win a position so that you can legally hike in there that's amazing wow praise the lord that you got to do that and then um jeff is asking are there palm tree fossils in washington yes that well the palm leaves um we we have the palm leaf fossils okay here in washington tons of them in central central washington okay um so yeah that that's that's one of the fossils we've got we're also known for all of our mammoth fossils we got a big mammoth dig going on uh on claude felter road just down the street here from where i'm at wow that's exciting okay and um on facebook we have brian watching along with us and he's asking um if the granite earlier was that blue you had some blue rocks okay uh the blue rocks the okay i think you're referring to these this is agate it's not ellensburg blue it wants to be ellensburg blue i wished it was um the granite this is the granite here now it might look blue on the screen but it's white it's white and black you know back it up a little bit back it up a little bit because it because there's a glare on it okay right there that's good okay yeah and then this this here is the is the agate that i found in the river when i jumped in this here this is the granite and the little black spots is biotite mica and someone's pointed out they says well if that mountain is granite and it's got biotite mica in it there's no way it could have lasted 92 million years because biotite mica is is very low on the most scale like about i don't know one a two or three something like that so that mountain should have wore down millions of years ago if it was a million years old you know so that that's just another evidence to show that that mountain is young it can't be old mark do you have any do you have a youtube presentations of what you've given us tonight oh yeah i have a youtube channel it's tri -cities creation science club and it's got a lot of my documentaries that i've been making tri -cities creation science type that in tri -cities creation science club and then you have a website as well don't you mark yeah it's mark's academy of science that's for my students mostly um i'm starting to change it around from electronics to geology because this coming year i'm going to be teaching geology and i've had so much interest in people wanting to put all these pictures on my website so that they can share them of all the explorations i've done so you got to understand god has really blessed i have friends i'm sorry they have money and they're able to pay and and they have they they have they have uh paid for some of my exploration trips because they believe that if they pay me then i'm gonna be able to get out there and and present all of this and i don't know maybe one of those guys is listening right now yeah well praise the lord for and it seems like it's a good investment that you're being a good steward of that resource because you're using it to tell people about what you're finding and how how it proclaims the glory of the lord right yes oh yeah definitely this is really exciting i mean this is kind of living a dream because i wanted to do this when i was six and then i thought i was never going to get to do it and then oh then at some point in time the lord just started blessing in an amazing way and and so i get really excited about this stuff you know because i thought this would never happen i have a quick question about the dinosaur footprint yes okay so i saw the the the water um the waves were tilted and obviously the dinosaur uh footprint was tilted was there another dinosaur footprint close by or did you just capture them that's a good question and we haven't found another one the the guy at the museum will marin he says man i wish we could find another print uh we've never been able to find another one but you know some people they'll say well that looks like one but you saw it in real life i mean it looks like a dinosaur footprint now it's a small one it's small it's about like that it's not big i mean the picture makes it look big yeah it looks really big yeah it's about like that in it in nevada in red rock canyon near just outside of las vegas that park there has dinosaur tracks but they won't tell you where they they are um yeah so um i i tried to find them but it was like a hundred million degrees and you didn't want to spend any time out there yeah i understand yeah okay well i think that about wraps it up for our questions so mark if you want to tell people one more time how they can find you okay well you can find me on facebook um you just type in mark finkbeiner and then if you become my friend i'd be able to direct you to my other facebook pages uh one is called the tri -cities creation science club the other one is called mark's academy of science or you can go to youtube type in tri -cities creation science club and i got all my documentaries that i've been making um and then mark's academy of science website so there's a mark's academy of science facebook there's mark's academy of science uh website um so that's that's how you find me okay mark i've been listening to uh somebody by the name of uh um nick centner yes are you familiar with him and what sort of interactions have you guys had with him well i listened to him a lot in fact he's the reason why i know what i know um he he's a guy who is actually giving us creation scientists all the ammunition i mean he he and a bunch of other geologists secular geologists are the people that are coming up with this 50 000 feet of sedimentary layers and uh um he he's got a lot of information about fossils that are being found in washington in fact just down the columbia river the white bluffs there's been saber -toothed tiger fossils camel fossils rhinoceros fossils um horse badger i think beaver all of that just down the columbia river in what we call the white bluffs area and then the other thing i didn't get a chance to mention was that the ellensburg formation you find the same fossils they found there so i'm thinking that the ellensburg formation and the white bluffs formation is actually the same thing did uh did you i didn't get in and quite on time so did you cover the uh various varves that are shown there in uh the flood geology lakes that are from the ice age right i know what you're talking about um let's see the okay well there's one place where there's 40 of them and another place where there's about 90 of them and so the evolutionists want to claim that those are each one a separate flood but if you look at them they're just laid down on top of each other too evenly to be separate flood right yes yeah and you're talking about that canyon that's by walla walla and i'm trying to remember the name of the canyon it was carved out by an irrigation break in the 1930s and there's a clastic dike that runs through a lot of those layers which gives really strong evidence that they were all laid down quickly and they were all muddy and then that dike shot through those layers and there's a lot of dikes through these layers throughout the the country out there um yeah there's a lot of those sedimentary layers and they're not just in this canyon they're out all over the place and in fact we find mount saint helens ash going through those layers which is another strong evidence that those layers they all had to be laid down at the same time while mount saint helens was erupting for the for the mount saint helens ash to go through the layers it's kind of like a polystrat fossil in a way because the way it's been presented is it it was laid down on in between one a set of layers rather than laid down continuously right yes that's how they explain it but they don't tell you that these that the ash is actually going through the layers and i have pictures of that that could be another presentation i could do on the missoula flood and all that stuff because see i live right in the middle of missoula flood territory so i got all this evidence you know we got lots of uh uh mammoths being dug up right here lots of uh uh mount saint helens ash um and another thing is that mount saint helens ash is pure so when mount saint helens erupted in 1980 and i was here when it erupted you know it left a half an inch of ash in different places and it only took a year or less for that ash to just go away but when you look in those varves that you're talking about there's ash layers and they're all pure they're they're not contaminated so that's another evidence that those layers had to be laid down quickly while mount saint helens was erupting during the missoula flood and this this place it was covered in water called lake lewis and so lake lewis was so heavy it caused mount saint helens to erupt while the missoula flood was happening and all that water dammed up here okay so we're gonna go ahead and wrap things up and mark you did um tell everybody where they can find you and as for us 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