Ch5 The God Who is There

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Good morning.
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Andy, would you open us up with a word of prayer? All right.
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What was the anybody remember what the title was last week? Oh, yeah, don't have to mumble.
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Learn it out.
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Learn it out.
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And what and what did he legislate? What was that? What was the legislation that we looked at last week? mosaic law.
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So here we go.
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Let's hop on the line.
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We had the Abrahamic covenant.
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And we have the mosaic covenant.
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Does anybody know some similarities with these two? What was the sign of the Abrahamic covenant? Yeah.
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Anyone? Anyone? Anyone? What was the sign of the Abrahamic covenant? circumcision? What's the sign of the mosaic covenant? The Sabbath? Was this part of this? All right, let's start over.
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Good morning.
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Yes.
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Remember, these covenants build on one another.
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So Abrahamic covenant is said was was he's going to have had some stipulations in it, but God was going to do it unilaterally.
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But under the Abrahamic covenant, the sign that the children and the descendants of Abraham, meaning all of the ones of Abraham, okay, not just Isaac, it would have been all of his descendants, the ones from it would have been Isaac, it would have been Ishmael, it would have been the sons of Keturah.
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I don't know if y'all know who that after Sarah died, he married another woman, and they had children together.
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So all of Abraham's descendants would have been circumcised.
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But under the mosaic covenant, these would have been all of the children of Isaac, which would be Jacob.
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Now, the Sabbath was the sign of the mosaic covenant, because the mosaic covenant or the sign of covenant or the mosaic legislation, how you want to however you want to word it, what was the purpose of that covenant? The purpose of the mosaic covenant was God had redeemed his children to hold the promise that he made to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob to take his people out of the land of Egypt, and to put them into the promised land.
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But that covenant came with stipulations and those stipulations that came with that covenant was to make them distinguished from the pagan world.
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So when they came out of Egypt, did they have any laws with dietary eating in Egypt? No, they didn't have any laws.
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Did they have any laws concerning how to worship Yahweh? No, they didn't have anything.
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So God says, all right, I'm going to give you basically before they ever left.
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Before they got to the Sinai Peninsula, there was what we would call the 10 commandments, but they're really the 10 words is what they were called.
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Out of these 10 came 613 commands and prohibitions out of the mosaic legislation.
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Are these 10 commandments still a covenant today? Yeah, or nay? Yes.
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Yes.
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In what way? If they are just I'm not gonna say yes or no.
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Yeah.
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They were established then for the people.
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So once they're established, they continue.
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Oh, they might be added to.
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Okay.
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Is anybody here Jewish? I eat a lot of bagels.
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Anybody in here 100% Jewish? Besides Andy being a percentage? 10 commandments were only for the Israelites.
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That's it.
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That's it.
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As a matter of fact, even these are no longer even enforced in a sense of as a commandment.
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They're not there.
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They've been fulfilled in Christ.
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Jesus said what I've come into the world that I might fulfill the law.
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That's what Jesus did.
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Now do the 10 commandments have any relevance today? Certainly what do we look at the 10 commandments for? Yeah, we can look at them as a rule of standard of how to live.
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Certainly.
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But if you were to say that these 10 are still enforced as a covenant, what are you going to do with the with the rest of the the mosaic law? You see the problem you would have to say that these are still a command of God for a covenant mean you have to fulfill these in order to be saved.
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Basically, it's how they saw it.
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So I want you to understand that the 10 commandments was only served a purpose.
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And that purpose was to point to God and their insufficient, insufficient in sufficientness to do the good that God required.
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They were unable to do even they came out of the land of Egypt, he gave them the 10.
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He went up there and got on the mountain.
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And Moses got the rest of the covenant.
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These were the foundational ones that was always to point them that they could not do what God required ever.
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So he made the sacrificial system and all of that.
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Okay, so this was fulfilled in Christ.
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The words actually abrogated mean it's it's it's no longer good.
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It's obsolete.
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No, it's done.
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It's over.
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Never to be used again.
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All right.
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And the God that reigns.
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Was there anything that caught you guys by surprise or any questions concerning this chapter? No.
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Yay.
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No.
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Who are the two kings that were brought up in this chapter? Right out of the right out of the gate.
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Saul and David.
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Let's, let's put some characteristics of each one of these.
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Let's do Saul first.
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Anybody give us some characteristics of Saul.
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All right, he got his hair caught in the bushes.
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Hair in the bushes.
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Anything else? He was from the tribe of what? My goodness.
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And he makes more coffee.
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Tribe of Benjamin.
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What else do we know about Saul? From an outward appearance, he was head and shoulders.
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That's it.
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He was the he was the guy.
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Yep.
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He was.
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Let's get rid of the hair and bushes and put head and shoulders.
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Always thought this was interesting because he was head and shoulders over everybody else in the nation.
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But then who was head and shoulders over him? It wound up being Goliath.
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So that tells you actually how big Saul actually was.
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He was a big man.
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So he was head and shoulders over everybody else.
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So head and shoulders, but everybody he was a big man.
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He was basically a strapping looking dude.
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He was a nice looking man.
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What else do we know? Tribe of Benjamin.
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What else? What's that? In his kingship, he was he was humbled.
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And I would I would make a distinction.
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I think he was not so much humbled as he he was very cowardly.
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He was, I think, wouldn't you agree with that? Andy? He was cowardly.
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You say, well, why was he cowardly? When he was going to be anointed as king, where did they have to find him? What was he doing? Anybody know the story of Saul? When the people wanted a king, God says, No, no, no, no, no.
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I'll give you a king.
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And they said, No, we want a king.
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And he says, Okay, and then when I'm going to give it to you, he's going to do all these things to you.
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When he was going to be anointed, he ran and was hiding in some luggage when they found him.
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He was cowardly.
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He was anointed as king.
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Was this ever? And this can be a loaded question.
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Was this ever was Saul God's in? Was Saul ever God's intent? Based on what we know in Scripture was Saul, God's man.
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Always the people's choice.
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That's it.
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People's choice.
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This is what the people wanted.
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I mean, turn over here real quick to Deuteronomy.
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I think it's Deuteronomy 17.
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Yeah, Deuteronomy 17.
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In verse 14.
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It says when you when this is, they're fixing to cross the Jordan, Moses is giving the law the second time to the generation that was after all of the gender, the unbelieving generation had died.
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So he's given them these instructions, when you enter the land, which the Lord your God gives you, and you possess it, and live in it, and you say, I will set a king over me like all the nations who are around me, you shall set a king over whom the Lord God chooses one from among your countrymen, who was said as a king over yourselves, and you may not put a foreigner over yourselves who is not from your country.
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Moreover, he shall not multiply his horses of himself, nor shall he cause the people to return to Egypt to multiply horses, since the Lord has said to you, you shall never again return by that way, he shall not multiply his wives for himself, or else his heart will be turned away, nor shall he greatly increase his silver and gold for himself.
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So even under the Mosaic law, God knew, hey, man, you want some point in time, you are going to want a king.
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But when you want a king, you're going to put the guy in power that I want.
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This is exactly what they say in the book of Samuel.
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It says, when you enter the land, you'll say to me, give us a king, like the nations around us.
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So what did God give them? That's what you want? This is what he's going to do.
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He's going to take your vineyards.
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He's going to take your servants.
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He's going to take your slaves.
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He's going to take your horses.
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He's going to take your women.
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He's going to take, meaning their wives and all that.
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So they said, okay, that's what we want.
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So that's who this guy is.
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Did Saul start out well? Yeah.
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Was he a warrior too? Yep, he was.
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At the beginning, Saul had some very good characteristics.
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But we never see Saul's reason for doing what he was doing for his love of God or love of Yahweh.
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Everything Saul did, he did for what? For Saul.
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For Saul.
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Even when he was to inquire to the Lord of what to do, instead of going to inquire to the Lord what he should do or to the prophet Samuel, what did he do? You may remember? He went, he did witch of Endor, not Endor from like Star Wars either.
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Yeah, he instead of speaking to God, he spoke to mediums.
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Oh, it's funny when Saul was went to the witch of Endor, whatever you want to call her, and she's wanting to pull up Samuel, one of those prophets.
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What's funny to me is that when Samuel's spirit actually talks, the chick about falls over, because she knows she couldn't raise spirits from the dead.
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So when she sees Saul, she's like, Oh, my goodness, this actually really happened.
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And she's terrified.
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So I just it's funny to me, but I probably have a weird sense of humor.
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So, all right.
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So what was Saul's demise? Ultimately, why was Saul removed from his position? I heard somebody say something.
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Who did it? Disobedience.
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And what was that disobedience? And those instructions, and those instructions were actually at the end of the Mosaic legislation, or the Mosaic covenant.
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It's when you go into the land, you go into the Amalekites, and you kill every man, woman, boy, girl, infant, livestock, everything.
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That's tough for people to swallow.
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And the reason why they were supposed to do that when the children of Israel were coming out of the land of Egypt, who came up from the backside and attacked them? The Amalekites, and God says, I will put it in the covenant that you're to wipe them off the face of the planet.
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That's what God said.
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So Saul gets the opportunity to be obedient, to go in to destroy the Amalekites.
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He goes in, he kills the majority of them, but he takes off, takes with this, the spoils, which he was not supposed to take any spoils.
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He takes the choice of the cattle, sheep, goats, and this dude named Agag.
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God said you kill every one man, woman, boy, girl, infant.
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You don't save any of these.
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Well, he saved the choicest of these.
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And Agag was the king of the Amalekites.
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And he didn't kill him.
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He was going to use him as sport, basically to make fun of him, carry him off, show people the trophy that he had.
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Samuel, the prophet shows up.
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And anybody remember when Samuel comes to see him to make sacrifice? What happens? He comes to see him.
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He says, what's this bleeping of the sheep and the goats that I hear? Oh, yeah, when I went into the land, I was going to save those for the Lord, so that we could sacrifice them and save them for you, Samuel.
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And he says, Well, what's up with Agag? He said, Oh, I saved him too.
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He says, Didn't God tell you to kill him? And he said, Yeah, he said, Give me your sword.
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And Samuel chops Agag into pieces.
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Did what Samuel did not.
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I mean, I did what Saul did not do.
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Samuel did.
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And God said, Because you were disobedient.
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I'm done with you.
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What are some characteristics of David? God's choice.
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God's choice.
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What else about David doing now? Youngest, youngest of like, I think it's the King James says that he was a young, ruddy man.
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He was young.
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Where did where what tribe was he from? Judah.
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You know, this actually is a fulfillment that when before Jacob passed, he made a prediction and a prophecy to all of his his sons.
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And he promised that all of the all of the descendants of him would serve Judah, meaning he was going to be the Kings would come out of this line, not out of the tribe of Benjamin.
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What else do we know about David? Drive young, young, ruddy dude, little guy.
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What? Good.
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Oh, he slayed.
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Well, yeah, we know he was.
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He was valiant.
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Yep.
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Valiant.
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He wasn't cowardly.
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He was a little guy, too.
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He wasn't head and shoulders over everybody else.
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He was a little guy.
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What else do we know about a man after God's own heart? What does that mean? What does it mean to be a man after God's own heart? He's the only one in Scripture that that spoke of.
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So let's try to narrow down.
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What does that mean? That was a distinguishing character of David all through Scripture.
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What made him a man after God's own heart? Ma'am? Yeah, he wanted to serve God.
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But in what way are they most of the good kings that they wanted to serve God? We'd say Josiah wanted to serve God.
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We'd said hezekiah wanted to serve God.
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Well, what distinguished David as being a man after God's heart and the rest of the kings of Israel? He wanted to please him, but he never led the people off in any form of idolatry.
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And although David did sin, he never led off into idolatry.
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He never did.
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Josiah is the only other king that didn't do that as well.
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But Josiah was told specifically by God to not go to war with the Egyptians.
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And he did and it killed him.
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God killed him.
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What else do we know about David as a king? What did David do under the as a king? He did what? Yeah, he did that.
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That's, that's the bad part.
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Yep.
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Well, you know what, that's a good idea.
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Let's do that.
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Let's do the good that we know about David.
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The bad things that we know about David.
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So before you can say anything about him killing Bathsheba's husband, we got to admit that he committed adultery.
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Right? He committed adultery.
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What else do we know about David as a king? Not as a grabbing a bear and a lion by his beard and all that in the snow and all that.
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Oh, what did he do as a king? Who did he kill? Bathsheba's husband.
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He had everybody remembers the story.
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All right.
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He saw he was up on the roof, saw Bathsheba taking a bath, what she was doing taking a bath on another roof.
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I have no idea.
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But I guess that's what they did.
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And he said, bring her to me.
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And they said, well, first, he said, who is that? And they said, that is Uriah.
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That's Uriah's wife.
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What should David have done right then? Yep, he should have said that's off limits.
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But what did he do? He shouldn't have been there in the first place.
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He should have.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But once he he found out that that was Uriah's wife, and he didn't say that somebody else's wife.
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He said, that's Uriah.
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He knew who Uriah was.
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Uriah was one of the 30 valiant men and his basically the 30th valiant men of Israel.
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So he knew, hey, that's Uriah's wife.
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And what did he say? I don't care.
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Bring her to me.
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Bring her to me.
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And she got pregnant.
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What was the plot to kill Uriah? Put him at the front lines.
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They were gonna invade a wall.
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He says, hey, when they when y'all make the run up there, soon as the men start shooting, back up and let Uriah get killed.
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All right, what are some good things we know about David as a king? He brought rest to the land.
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The main enemy at this time was the Philistines and David just went out there and just mowed them over.
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That's what David was doing.
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David was a man doing what God said do and that's put your enemies under your feet.
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And that's exactly what David was doing.
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And he did it without mercy.
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And he did it without hesitation.
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He also he ruled justly.
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He was a just king.
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He did what God told him to do.
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By and large, he did what God told him to do till his major infraction with Bathsheba.
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If you ever read through the Kings part of Chronicles, and some of Samuel, you will see that because of his infraction, his sin of adultery, it just caused everything in his his kingly life to start going downhill.
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And it was had everything from incest that he didn't deal with with one of his sons.
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You had one of his sons try to usurp the throne.
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And y'all got to read the Old Testament.
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That it is like, it's the best book.
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I mean, as far as you want to see.
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You want to see conspiracy, you want to see murders, insurrections, I mean, all this stuff you want to see, you can see it by reading the Old Testament.
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So what else do we know about David? As a king? Good.
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He repented.
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And God used the Prophet Nathan to do that.
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God used the Prophet Nathan by doing what did Nathan telling what you may know what Nathan said? That was that yeah, that we pointed that big old bony finger at him and say you're the man but he gave a parable and a parable is supposed to take a real life story and give it a spiritual meaning is kind of what it's supposed to do.
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And it's supposed to reveal truth to that person.
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Well, when David found out that this guy taking one guy's only sheep, and he took it in, he took it in for a party, and he did his own thing with it.
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David said, you bring that man here, we'll put him to death.
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And then that bony finger that Nathan the Prophet said, well, you're that man.
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And that is when you when he repented.
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And he wrote Psalm 51.
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He did write other songs.
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Psalm 51.
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But David was never the same after that.
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David was never the same.
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What else we know about David? He did.
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He wanted to.
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Let's read the narrative that they have in the book that way.
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Because his was it a wrong thing for David to want to build a temple for God, a house for him.
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I don't think it was wrong.
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I'm not sure his motivation was arrogance.
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I'm not sure that his motivation was was trying to make a name for God other than just we read it.
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And we'll read I think it's on page 74.
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2 Samuel chapter 7.
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And it's verses one and two.
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It's on page 74.
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It says, And after the king, king David was settled in his palace, and the Lord had given him rest from all of his enemies around.
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He said to Nathan the prophet, Here I am, I'm living in this house of cedar, while the Ark of God remains in a tent.
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That Ark of God was described in the last chapter, that Ark was a box placed in a most holy place.
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And that box held certain elements with including tablets of stone, the Ten Commandments.
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On top of that is where the blood was sprinkled on Day of Atonement.
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At this juncture in Israel's history, about 1000 years before Christ, this Ark was still residing in a tent called the tabernacle.
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And I'm living in this cedar palace.
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David said to Nathan, the place where God meets with his priest is nothing but a pretty tent.
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So we see that that David had a desire to build a temple or some stationary place for God.
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I personally, Andy, do you think it was anything in and of itself wrong with that? David's looking at, hey, I've got this big elaborate building called my house.
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I personally don't have any, this is all conjecture.
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I think David was, man, there's some conviction here that I look what I've done for myself, and I've not really built God a place of stationary.
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Remember this tabernacle, what was it doing? It was going place to place to place to place to place.
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There was no, no, no stationary play dwelling place of God for the people of God to come to.
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And that's what David wanted was a stationary place for God's people to come.
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What was one of the things that we said right at the beginning, what was lost in the garden at the fall, the dwelling place of God, the dwelling place of God was lost.
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Now, it can't the dwelling place of God emerges under the mosaic legislation under the tabernacle.
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But what did it do for 40 years? It wandered around with the people in the wilderness from place to place to place.
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Well, David says, now that I'm settled in the land, there's no reason for this thing to be wandering from Shiloh to even all these different places.
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He says, why don't we bring it here, where God's people can come and worship.
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And in and of itself, I don't think there was anything wrong with that.
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But God says, okay, but I'm going to do that on my timetable.
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I'm going to do it the way that I want it done.
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I think what you've done, David is a great idea.
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I think it can be done, but I'm not going to do it with you.
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And he says one reason why he's not going to do it was because David was a man of war.
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David had shed tons of blood.
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I did it under God's command.
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But he had killed a bunch of people and righteously not as a murderer.
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So who's going to wind up building that structure called the temple for God? Solomon.
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Yeah.
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What do we know about Solomon? What do we know about Solomon? Smart man will use wisdom.
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He was the wisest man to ever live.
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How did he get his wisdom? Anybody remember in the narrative of the Bible how what happened? He asked, I says, whatever you just tell me what you want, Solomon, and I'll give it to you.
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Because of the covenant I made with your forefathers, and he didn't say give me riches.
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He didn't say give me more land.
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He said, Give me the ability to lead your people.
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And God said, You got it.
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And because you've asked that and you've asked to lead my people in a righteous and just way.
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I'm going to make you the most wealthiest man in all the world.
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So he, he was a man full of wisdom that came from God.
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What's interestingly enough, is although he was filled with with wisdom, towards the end of his life, man, he made some silly decisions, made some real bad decisions.
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And 700 wives is pretty bad.
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Seven, what's that? Yeah, 700 wives is pretty, pretty bad.
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And I think between all of it, I think it'll have to be like, between the wives and the concubines, it's like 1000 or something ridiculous.
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You know, don't get me now some of that in that culture was they were making treaties with people and they would give him wives and concubines to try to keep from warring.
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Okay, so it wasn't like he was hopping from tent to tent to tent.
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Okay.
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But Solomon was a man of wisdom, he ruled justly.
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He ruled justly.
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What else does Solomon do? There were insurrections, I know that's a loaded word today, insurrections and wrongdoings that were done against David, his dad, and against David's kingdom.
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And before David passed, he said, I need you to take care of these people for me.
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And Solomon said, Okay, one of them had murdered a man that was in his old age.
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And God said, you'll die before you reach the age of gray hair.
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So Solomon does what his dad tells him to do.
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And he kills that man you all remember the story where the man's killed holding on to the horns of the altar.
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And that's what happened.
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The guy ran into to hide from being killed from one of the valiant men, he runs in there, he's all I just hold on to the horns of the altar, and they come back and tell Solomon, Hey, man, dudes holding on to the altar.
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Solomon said, kill him right there, then.
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So he killed him.
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He also had the wisdom.
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Remember when the two women came claiming the one of the child had died and grabbed the other one, you remember, and you remember, kind of an odd thing for Solomon to say, what did he tell you? Remember what he said? He had cut it in half, let one have the other.
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So well, the one day found out which one was the actual mother because said, Look, don't don't kill the child.
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So he, he ruled with wisdom from God, he ruled justly, he, he squashed the insurrectionist and killed those that were trying to overthrown, overthrow King David, his dad at the time.
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And then he built first temple.
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He built the first temple.
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These three kings that we have talked about, saw what was appointed by the MIT by the people had flaws, major flaws.
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David, although he was a man after God's own heart, major flaws and sins in his life.
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Solomon, all the wisdom that came from God, and he still disobeyed God and did the things that God told him not to do.
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What did we just read in Deuteronomy about what was the king not supposed to do? It wasn't supposed to take a bunch of wives.
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And what did he do? He took a bunch of wives.
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And it says that the scriptures and the scriptures, it says that those wives pulled Solomon's heart away from the true and living God.
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Now he did return, and he repented, you see in the book of Ecclesiastes, which I think we'll talk about some of that over the weeks to come when we get into the wisdom literature and stuff like that.
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We see what Solomon turning back and going, you know, at the end of the day, it's to love God and serve him.
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So Solomon had his flaws, David had his flaws, Saul had his flaws, and all of these men were supposed to be leading the people of God.
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That's the point as to the true king that would come, which would one day be Christ.
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And that king would rule justly, he would rule in wisdom, and he would rule in power, and he would rule it without flaw.
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What did he also promise King David that he would do? That there would always be somebody on his throne.
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Now, I prefer this term.
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But I know that we're mostly know it by this.
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The Davidic covenant.
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So if I say promise, it's, it's just how I understand it.
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Okay.
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As we're unfolding history, I want to use the terms that the Bible uses.
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The Bible actually doesn't use the word covenant with David.
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I understand how it says that he will establish and he'll do this.
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And he'll do that.
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Just like he said with Abraham, I will promise to that your seed, your seed will bless the whole earth.
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Well, we don't have a problem calling that the Abrahamic promise.
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We don't call that the Abrahamic covenant, we call the Abrahamic promise, because it's not actually until he gives him the Abrahamic covenant that we call it a covenant.
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So if I at times say it this way, I know that the vast majority of y'all understand it as a covenant.
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The Davidic covenant, Davidic promise, it's just the terminology is a little different.
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Agree or disagree? I'm good either way.
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Okay.
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Because as we're as we're, as we're watching God unfold, he unfolds to his people in redemptive history in two ways, promise and covenant.
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That's the only way he reveals himself.
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And we got four minutes for disagreements.
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I think it's interesting.
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I mean, the book, the chapter has the God who reigned and if you think about it, and you think about where we are today, people still do the same things that the people, the children of Israel did back then.
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Rather than wait upon God, they go about established their own king.
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And that king winds up abusing the people that established it.
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And nothing new under the sun, we still do it today.
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Yeah.
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And the only king that really is going to rule is the king that rules righteously, which of course is Christ.
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But even then, I mean, we think in our country that we're going to solve our own issues.
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We're just going to keep creating new issues.
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Whether I don't care if it's democratic, independent, whatever you want to put it, unless it's God's king, and unless God reigns through that king, we're just going to continue to spin our wheels.
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Yeah, because we were unrighteous people and we have a tendency to make decisions based on feelings instead of based on truth and facts from God.
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It's been that way, like he just said from from the beginning.
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Anyone else? Anything else? Just how religious were the first people that came to America? I'm sorry.
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You know, the pilgrims when they came to America? Yes, ma'am.
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Were they solidly Christians? Did they really live by the law of the Bible? Or did they do their own thing? Probably had a mixed bag of that because they they came here just to leave in the tyranny of the king.
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They just want to treat them.
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When they came here, do we have in history know that some of them did come here to establish that actually some of them came here to establish a state church and that was going to be the Presbyterian Church.
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But there was a stop to that.
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That's a whole nother subject with a Danbury Baptist and all that.
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And that's where you get the letter from the church in the state and all of that church.
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The state has nothing to do with the separation of taxation that had to do with we're not we're going to separate from having a state church.
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So yeah, did some of them come over here with a purpose to serve the Lord shirt and some of them come up here just to leave the tyranny of the king.
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Yeah, by large.
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All right.
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If there's no more questions or anything to comment on, we have 30 seconds left over.
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All right, let's pray.
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Father God, thank you so much for your word.
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Thank you, Lord, that we have a book that we can look back and to examine and to see how you rebuild yourself through history.
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And that father, even the men that you put in place were flawed man, they were sinful man, they were men that at times sought to do their own, own plans.
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And Father, we long for the day just as Andy said that one day you will come in power and glory and you will rule and your son will set up an everlasting kingdom where no more sin will be where there'll be no unclean thought no wrong deed.
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And Father, all our hearts will be made perfect.
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Father, we love you.
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We thank you for all that you've done.
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We thank you father that we can gather together as a group of believers to read your word to study your word.
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Father, I pray for Keith as we go into the service from here that father you would prepare his heart and strengthen his body that he would preach your word with power in Christ's name.
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Amen.